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Title: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: McGrowlTowelZac on February 12, 2009, 04:49:17 PM
Had Freeman stayed a husker?  Where would that program be if Freeman had been there?
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: vanro03 on February 12, 2009, 04:52:29 PM
Worst shape than KSU.. Glad he played at the little Apple!!!
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: steve dave on February 12, 2009, 05:12:35 PM
Worst shape than KSU.. Glad he played at the little Apple!!!

Does it kill you that Freeman has two higher level wins in his time at KSU than NU has in the same time frame?  Surrounded by completely garbage talent no less. 
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: vanro03 on February 12, 2009, 05:35:27 PM
Did Freeman ever beat Nebraska?
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: steve dave on February 12, 2009, 05:36:34 PM
Did Freeman ever beat Nebraska?

Nebraska was garbage his whole time at KSU.  Nobody cared if they beat NU or lost to them. 
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: ew2x4 on February 12, 2009, 05:45:24 PM
Worst shape than KSU.. Glad he played at the little Apple!!!

How retarded do you have to be to not know the difference between worst and worse?
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: Darth Kramer on February 12, 2009, 05:52:10 PM
Worst shape than KSU.. Glad he played at the little Apple!!!

How retarded do you have to be to not know the difference between worst and worse?

forgive him, he's been on the sauce since 3 pm.
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: GreatRedShark on February 12, 2009, 07:59:24 PM
Worst shape than KSU.. Glad he played at the little Apple!!!

Does it kill you that Freeman has two higher level wins in his time at KSU than NU has in the same time frame?  Surrounded by completely garbage talent no less. 

Nah. 

Head to head matters more than who you guys beat, and Freeman never beat us.

Why would other teams that you defeated matter to NU fans?

As bad as Callahan was, Prince and Freeman NEVER beat them, when almost everyone else that played us who was worth a crap did.

Makes you proud to be a Wildcat, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: steve dave on February 12, 2009, 08:01:10 PM
Worst shape than KSU.. Glad he played at the little Apple!!!

Does it kill you that Freeman has two higher level wins in his time at KSU than NU has in the same time frame?  Surrounded by completely garbage talent no less. 

Nah. 

Head to head matters more than who you guys beat, and Freeman never beat us.

Why would other teams that you defeated matter to NU fans?

As bad as Callahan was, Prince and Freeman NEVER beat them, when almost everyone else that played us who was worth a crap did.

Makes you proud to be a Wildcat, doesn't it?


Can't say I even knew what our head to head was with NU.  Never really cared I guess.  When we lose to Texas.....I don't sleep for weeks. 
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: GreatRedShark on February 12, 2009, 08:03:52 PM
Better to be giant killers than division/conference winners, I guess.

You guys have taken it to the Horns twice, which is pretty much the only thing I envy about the KSU football program.

They just seem to have our number.
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: steve dave on February 12, 2009, 08:04:48 PM
Better to be giant killers than division/conference winners, I guess.

When was the last time NU won the conference?  I can't say I even remember.
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: KSUTOMMY on February 12, 2009, 08:07:41 PM
Better to be giant killers than division/conference winners, I guess.

You guys have taken it to the Horns twice, which those two wins and the larger genetalia are pretty much the only things I envy about the KSU football program.

They just seem to have our number.

Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: GreatRedShark on February 12, 2009, 08:12:41 PM
Better to be giant killers than division/conference winners, I guess.

When was the last time NU won the conference?  I can't say I even remember.

Last won our division in '06 (tied Missouri this year), last won the conference in 1999, by beating Applewhite's Texas team.

It's been a while since NU has done anything other than suck on the big stage.  I'm hoping that's changing as we rebuild our program.
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: JTKSU on February 12, 2009, 08:13:36 PM
Worst shape than KSU.. Glad he played at the little Apple!!!

I know, right?  Imagine if you had that loser Freeman instead of that future first-round-pick Keller?  Dudes already won a few MVPs in the league, hasn't he?
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: GreatRedShark on February 12, 2009, 08:17:11 PM
Freeman might have saved Callahan's job for a few more years, or just covered up the hollow core plaguing our team by painting it with a bright, pleasing veneer that goes about a millimeter deep, which was what the Callahan Regime was all about - an illusion, a show. 

We did okay with Taylor and Ganz.  Keller was decent, but ultimately overrated and inconsistent.

Seeing where NU is now and who Freeman turned out to be, I'm glad things worked out the way they did, as painful as it was at the time.
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: JTKSU on February 12, 2009, 09:17:35 PM
Freeman might have saved Callahan's job for a few more years, or just covered up the hollow core plaguing our team by painting it with a bright, pleasing veneer that goes about a millimeter deep, which was what the Callahan Regime was all about - an illusion, a show. 

We did okay with Taylor and Ganz.  Keller was decent, but ultimately overrated and inconsistent.

Seeing where NU is now and who Freeman turned out to be, I'm glad things worked out the way they did, as painful as it was at the time.


LOL at Nubbs for honestly thinking that having a (real life) future first round pick at QB would somehow be detrimental to their team.  Of course you would rather have Taylor, Keller, and Ganz at QB than Freems, you didn't have any other choice.
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: Gimmered on February 12, 2009, 09:32:11 PM
There is no way I would have wanted Freeman over Ganz last year.

Freeman made the right choice for himself and I'm glad it worked out so well for him. He made K-State a much better team and likely would have done the same for Nebraska.
I wish him well in the NFL but I never watch it so it really won't matter much to me anyway.
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: McGrowlTowelZac on February 12, 2009, 10:47:17 PM
I prefer not having NFL caliber players on KSU's roster.
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: QuinnMac on February 13, 2009, 07:53:37 AM
I prefer not having NFL caliber players on KSU's roster.

So many gems already, and the thread just got started.

Oh and this guy agrees, he is glad Freemaw was never a nubb:
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc158/QuinnMac/Nubbfan.jpg)
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: HuskerPride on February 13, 2009, 08:41:40 AM
Freeman might have saved Callahan's job for a few more years, or just covered up the hollow core plaguing our team by painting it with a bright, pleasing veneer that goes about a millimeter deep, which was what the Callahan Regime was all about - an illusion, a show. 

We did okay with Taylor and Ganz.  Keller was decent, but ultimately overrated and inconsistent.

Seeing where NU is now and who Freeman turned out to be, I'm glad things worked out the way they did, as painful as it was at the time.


LOL at Nubbs for honestly thinking that having a (real life) future first round pick at QB would somehow be detrimental to their team.  Of course you would rather have Taylor, Keller, and Ganz at QB than Freems, you didn't have any other choice.


Lol at the CUB are you 12 or 14. I swear to god, Dave, please tell the teens on this board to let the adults have intelligent conversations while the kids watch Hannah Montana. JTKSU look what your 1st round pick did for your program......nadda, zilch, zero. Taylor was Big 12 player of the year once, Ganz won a New Years Bowl game, Keller...I'll give you that one. Try to have a decent conversation w/o trying to get nasty about it.. geesh   :nono:
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: j@yh@wks on February 13, 2009, 08:59:39 AM
Freeman might have saved Callahan's job for a few more years, or just covered up the hollow core plaguing our team by painting it with a bright, pleasing veneer that goes about a millimeter deep, which was what the Callahan Regime was all about - an illusion, a show. 

We did okay with Taylor and Ganz.  Keller was decent, but ultimately overrated and inconsistent.

Seeing where NU is now and who Freeman turned out to be, I'm glad things worked out the way they did, as painful as it was at the time.


LOL at Nubbs for honestly thinking that having a (real life) future first round pick at QB would somehow be detrimental to their team.  Of course you would rather have Taylor, Keller, and Ganz at QB than Freems, you didn't have any other choice.


Lol at the CUB are you 12 or 14. I swear to god, Dave, please tell the teens on this board to let the adults have intelligent conversations while the kids watch Hannah Montana. JTKSU look what your 1st round pick did for your program......nadda, zilch, zero. Taylor was Big 12 player of the year once, Ganz won a New Years Bowl game, Keller...I'll give you that one. Try to have a decent conversation w/o trying to get nasty about it.. geesh   :nono:
Imagine if either of your teams had Reesing. 
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: HuskerPride on February 13, 2009, 09:28:45 AM
Freeman might have saved Callahan's job for a few more years, or just covered up the hollow core plaguing our team by painting it with a bright, pleasing veneer that goes about a millimeter deep, which was what the Callahan Regime was all about - an illusion, a show. 

We did okay with Taylor and Ganz.  Keller was decent, but ultimately overrated and inconsistent.

Seeing where NU is now and who Freeman turned out to be, I'm glad things worked out the way they did, as painful as it was at the time.


LOL at Nubbs for honestly thinking that having a (real life) future first round pick at QB would somehow be detrimental to their team.  Of course you would rather have Taylor, Keller, and Ganz at QB than Freems, you didn't have any other choice.


Lol at the CUB are you 12 or 14. I swear to god, Dave, please tell the teens on this board to let the adults have intelligent conversations while the kids watch Hannah Montana. JTKSU look what your 1st round pick did for your program......nadda, zilch, zero. Taylor was Big 12 player of the year once, Ganz won a New Years Bowl game, Keller...I'll give you that one. Try to have a decent conversation w/o trying to get nasty about it.. geesh   :nono:
Imagine if either of your teams had Reesing. 

No Thanks, I'd take Ganz over Reesing
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on February 13, 2009, 10:22:14 AM
Freeman might have saved Callahan's job for a few more years, or just covered up the hollow core plaguing our team by painting it with a bright, pleasing veneer that goes about a millimeter deep, which was what the Callahan Regime was all about - an illusion, a show. 

We did okay with Taylor and Ganz.  Keller was decent, but ultimately overrated and inconsistent.

Seeing where NU is now and who Freeman turned out to be, I'm glad things worked out the way they did, as painful as it was at the time.


LOL at Nubbs for honestly thinking that having a (real life) future first round pick at QB would somehow be detrimental to their team.  Of course you would rather have Taylor, Keller, and Ganz at QB than Freems, you didn't have any other choice.


Lol at the CUB are you 12 or 14. I swear to god, Dave, please tell the teens on this board to let the adults have intelligent conversations while the kids watch Hannah Montana. JTKSU look what your 1st round pick did for your program......nadda, zilch, zero. Taylor was Big 12 player of the year once, Ganz won a New Years Bowl game, Keller...I'll give you that one. Try to have a decent conversation w/o trying to get nasty about it.. geesh   :nono:
Imagine if either of your teams had Reesing. 

No Thanks, I'd take Ganz over Reesing

Of course you would.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: HuskerPride on February 13, 2009, 11:34:43 AM
Freeman might have saved Callahan's job for a few more years, or just covered up the hollow core plaguing our team by painting it with a bright, pleasing veneer that goes about a millimeter deep, which was what the Callahan Regime was all about - an illusion, a show. 

We did okay with Taylor and Ganz.  Keller was decent, but ultimately overrated and inconsistent.

Seeing where NU is now and who Freeman turned out to be, I'm glad things worked out the way they did, as painful as it was at the time.


LOL at Nubbs for honestly thinking that having a (real life) future first round pick at QB would somehow be detrimental to their team.  Of course you would rather have Taylor, Keller, and Ganz at QB than Freems, you didn't have any other choice.


Lol at the CUB are you 12 or 14. I swear to god, Dave, please tell the teens on this board to let the adults have intelligent conversations while the kids watch Hannah Montana. JTKSU look what your 1st round pick did for your program......nadda, zilch, zero. Taylor was Big 12 player of the year once, Ganz won a New Years Bowl game, Keller...I'll give you that one. Try to have a decent conversation w/o trying to get nasty about it.. geesh   :nono:
Imagine if either of your teams had Reesing. 

No Thanks, I'd take Ganz over Reesing

Of course you would.   :rolleyes:
Would you take Reesing over Freeman?.....oh wait dumb question :banghead:
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: GreatRedShark on February 13, 2009, 01:08:58 PM
I prefer not having NFL caliber players on KSU's roster.

Nebraska has done all right through the years without having an NFL-caliber QB on the roster.

Defense is what killed NU under Callahan.  Our offense was good enough to keep us in most every game.

Bottom line, I like who Ganz is as a person and player and leader better than Freeman, and am glad it worked out the way it did, as Josh seems like a tremendous douche.
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: steve dave on February 13, 2009, 01:11:33 PM
Josh seems like a tremendous douche.

Why are NU fans so obsessed with him?  Honest question.  I live in Omaha and people talk about him non-stop.  They talked about him on 1620 for a solid 45 minutes the other day.  I mean, Zac Robinson decommited from KSU and you have never heard a peep from KSU fans about him.  NU fans are weird.  Let it go d00ds. 
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: GreatRedShark on February 13, 2009, 01:23:11 PM
He went from savior to traitor in the speed of a text.  11th hour betrayal like that lasts for a while.

If he sucked, we wouldn't care, but he's a pretty good QB, so it makes it more painful, thus, more hate.

It's just the way it is.

Oh, and maybe you haven't noticed, but Nebraska football fans take Nebraska football very seriously, which is probably why an unlikely program in the middle of nowhere with zero recruiting advantage is considered one of the elite programs in college football.
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: steve dave on February 13, 2009, 01:31:49 PM
He went from savior to traitor in the speed of a text.  11th hour betrayal like that lasts for a while.

If he sucked, we wouldn't care, but he's a pretty good QB, so it makes it more painful, thus, more hate.

It's just the way it is.

Oh, and maybe you haven't noticed, but Nebraska football fans take Nebraska football very seriously, which is probably why an unlikely program in the middle of nowhere with zero recruiting advantage is was considered one of the elite programs in college football.
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: JTKSU on February 13, 2009, 01:35:20 PM
He went from savior to traitor in the speed of a text.  11th hour betrayal like that lasts for a while.

If he sucked, we wouldn't care, but he's a pretty good QB, so it makes it more painful, thus, more hate.

It's just the way it is.

Oh, and maybe you haven't noticed, but Nebraska football fans take Nebraska football very seriously, which is probably why an unlikely program in the middle of nowhere with zero recruiting advantage is considered one of the elite programs in college football.

I wonder how elite Houston Nutt thought your program was while he kept your sorry asses waiting on the tarmac for him all day? 
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: GreatRedShark on February 13, 2009, 01:35:47 PM
/shrugs.

Wishful thinking.

Nebraska is still considered a bastion of college football by anyone who matters, much like other recently struggling programs like ND, FSU and Michigan.  A few down years don't change that, as much as KSU fans would love that to be the case.
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: GreatRedShark on February 13, 2009, 01:38:42 PM
He went from savior to traitor in the speed of a text.  11th hour betrayal like that lasts for a while.

If he sucked, we wouldn't care, but he's a pretty good QB, so it makes it more painful, thus, more hate.

It's just the way it is.

Oh, and maybe you haven't noticed, but Nebraska football fans take Nebraska football very seriously, which is probably why an unlikely program in the middle of nowhere with zero recruiting advantage is considered one of the elite programs in college football.

I wonder how elite Houston Nutt thought your program was while he kept your sorry asses waiting on the tarmac for him all day? 

Coaches turn down schools for a variety of reasons (KSU fans should understand this).  USC didn't get their top choices either before hiring Carroll.  Doesn't mean that USC isn't considered a top college football program, even during their down years.

After enduring BC, it might all be worth it if Pelini can do what I think he can do at NU.
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: steve dave on February 13, 2009, 01:42:02 PM
Coaches turn down schools for a variety of reasons (KSU fans should understand this). 


Actually, ksu fans would be the last people to understand that.  We don't do coaching searches... unfortunately. 
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: GreatRedShark on February 13, 2009, 01:44:56 PM
Coaches turn down schools for a variety of reasons (KSU fans should understand this). 


Actually, ksu fans would be the last people to understand that.  We don't do coaching searches... unfortunately. 

And Nebraska fans thank you for that (I think, as Snyder worked magic once, and might do it again).

The possibility of Patterson in Manhattan had Huskerdom nervously tittering for a while there.
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: HuskerPride on February 13, 2009, 02:12:57 PM
Coaches turn down schools for a variety of reasons (KSU fans should understand this). 


Actually, ksu fans would be the last people to understand that.  We don't do coaching searches... unfortunately. 

And Nebraska fans thank you for that (I think, as Snyder worked magic once, and might do it again).

The possibility of Patterson in Manhattan had Huskerdom nervously tittering for a while there.

not saying that Bill isn't a great coach but if Patterson would of came, it would of made things a whole lot more interesting in the north division. So thanks for not putting much effort into a search :woohoo:
Title: Re: Would Bill Callahan still be at Nebraska?
Post by: Joker on February 13, 2009, 02:39:48 PM
That was one powerful text message...