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Title: Fitz post on Huggins/Weiser worthy of topic
Post by: fatty fat fat on October 02, 2006, 12:16:58 AM
Look, say what you want about the hiring of Ron Prince, but to say Tim Weiser had to be convinced Bob Huggins is the farthest thing from the truth. Huggs was his choice from the moment he made the decision in Dallas on HCJW and he waited exactly the two-week window he was required to wait by the school's hiring standards to announce Huggs. No one convinced Weiser that Huggs was the man. He made the call and Fogler did his job in making it happen. Weiser then convinced others, most notably a certain school president, that Huggs was the right choice. To say it was an easy choice is to entirely ignore that folks at the time thought Huggs couldn't be touched by a school unless it wanted a giant black eye or that Weiser "didn't have the balls to hire him" as many people wrote on this board.

So bag on the Prince hiring if you want, but don't make up facts on the Huggins hiring to support your argument.
Title: Re: Fitz post on Huggins/Weiser worthy of topic
Post by: BooyahKU on October 02, 2006, 12:23:07 AM
thuggins
Title: Re: Fitz post on Huggins/Weiser worthy of topic
Post by: jmlynch1 on October 02, 2006, 12:24:29 AM
was there a subtle jab in there against adorable Jon Wefald. Shame Fitz, shame
Title: Re: Fitz post on Huggins/Weiser worthy of topic
Post by: sys on October 02, 2006, 12:52:19 AM
LINK!?



“He was not on my radar screen,” Wefald said of Kansas State’s coaching search that began the first week of March. “He was not on Tim Weiser’s radar screen. But that’s the way life is, isn’t it?

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060323/SPT01/303230004/1062/SPT


"Weiser admitted he did call the NCAA six or seven times because he was concerned about Huggins' past. He also said Huggins wasn't initially on K-State's radar screen until search consultant and former coach Eddie Fogler convinced him to keep an open mind."

this link sucks, but i got a dead end on the original article.

http://redout.org/ipb/index.php?showtopic=24661&st=20

"The topic was the hiring of Bob Huggins as the university's men's basketball coach, and the thought wasn't embraced by either man.
"I was like, 'Whoa,' " Weiser said.  But the idea stuck, thanks in part to former Wichita State coach Eddie Fogler, who sensed this could work."

same deal here.  the link is even worse.

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-143599797.html




this doesn't speak to the issue, but i link it as i hadn't seen it before.

http://preps.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Date=20060325&Category=COLUMNIST0201&ArtNo=603250344&SectionCat=&Template=printart
Title: Re: Fitz post on Huggins/Weiser worthy of topic
Post by: fatty fat fat on October 02, 2006, 12:55:49 AM
nothing more than PR. Huggins was Weiser's #1 guy.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&mid=80162726&sid=889&tid=80160684&style=1

you are morphing into a mini-version of WN/HILLSTNL. Stop.
Title: Re: Fitz post on Huggins/Weiser worthy of topic
Post by: sys on October 02, 2006, 12:59:47 AM
1) nothing more than PR. Huggins was Weiser's #1 guy.
2) you are morphing into a mini-version of WN/HILLSTNL.
3) Stop.

no, no, ok.
Title: Re: Fitz post on Huggins/Weiser worthy of topic
Post by: jmlynch1 on October 02, 2006, 01:00:48 AM
stick with your guns sys :popcorn:
Title: Re: Fitz post on Huggins/Weiser worthy of topic
Post by: fatty fat fat on October 02, 2006, 01:00:53 AM
the wn/hills thing wasn't fair. sry.

 :blush:

Title: Re: Fitz post on Huggins/Weiser worthy of topic
Post by: jmlynch1 on October 02, 2006, 01:03:06 AM
Honestly, its more fun to hate ADTW than aknowledge that he made an f-ing brilliant hire. That is why I refuse to believe that he was dead set on Huggs. In fact, I heard Hugs sought him out and practically begged to coach here.
Title: Re: Fitz post on Huggins/Weiser worthy of topic
Post by: fatty fat fat on October 02, 2006, 01:04:14 AM
dead set on Huggs. In fact, I heard Hugs sought him out and practically begged to coach here.
]

Yeah, how come you don't have more inside info mr. courtside?

 :mad: :mad: :mad:
Title: Re: Fitz post on Huggins/Weiser worthy of topic
Post by: sys on October 02, 2006, 01:06:46 AM
the wn/hills thing wasn't fair. sry.


it was hurtful, but i'm over it now.
Title: Re: Fitz post on Huggins/Weiser worthy of topic
Post by: fatty fat fat on October 02, 2006, 01:22:10 AM
Sys, Scott Drew is 8-40 in big 12 play.

Title: Re: Fitz post on Huggins/Weiser worthy of topic
Post by: sys on October 02, 2006, 02:02:00 AM
Sys, Scott Drew is 8-40 in big 12 play.

 :dancin:  :loly:  :ksu:  :woohoo:  :)  :thumbsup:  :lol:  :beerchug:

now i love you again.

 :katpak: :katpak: :katpak:
Title: Re: Fitz post on Huggins/Weiser worthy of topic
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on October 02, 2006, 08:51:58 AM
Quotes on the record are a real bitch when trying to spin.




LINK!?



“He was not on my radar screen,” Wefald said of Kansas State’s coaching search that began the first week of March. “He was not on Tim Weiser’s radar screen. But that’s the way life is, isn’t it?

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060323/SPT01/303230004/1062/SPT


"Weiser admitted he did call the NCAA six or seven times because he was concerned about Huggins' past. He also said Huggins wasn't initially on K-State's radar screen until search consultant and former coach Eddie Fogler convinced him to keep an open mind."

this link sucks, but i got a dead end on the original article.

http://redout.org/ipb/index.php?showtopic=24661&st=20

"The topic was the hiring of Bob Huggins as the university's men's basketball coach, and the thought wasn't embraced by either man.
"I was like, 'Whoa,' " Weiser said.  But the idea stuck, thanks in part to former Wichita State coach Eddie Fogler, who sensed this could work."

same deal here.  the link is even worse.

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-143599797.html




this doesn't speak to the issue, but i link it as i hadn't seen it before.

http://preps.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Date=20060325&Category=COLUMNIST0201&ArtNo=603250344&SectionCat=&Template=printart
Title: Re: Fitz post on Huggins/Weiser worthy of topic
Post by: cas on October 02, 2006, 09:27:31 AM
KATPAKS FOR BOB AND TIM!!!!
 
:katpak:  :katpak:  :katpak:  :katpak:

Title: Re: Fitz post on Huggins/Weiser worthy of topic
Post by: catzacker on October 02, 2006, 09:48:30 AM
Quotes on the record are a real bitch when trying to spin.

No kidding.  Our AD might have made the "final call" but it practically had to be forced down his throat for him to even consider Huggins.  This was Eddie Fogler's doing; nobody else.  I wish I could find the article where Weiser talks about the hiring of coaches and how when he was a younger AD he let the interview dictate too much the decision to hire a coach; he basically states that he learned not to put too much stock into an interview, which would seem to be contrary to the hiring process of Ron Prince. 
Title: Re: Fitz post on Huggins/Weiser worthy of topic
Post by: McGrowlTowelZac on October 02, 2006, 09:50:14 PM
Quote
he basically states that he learned not to put too much stock into an interview, which would seem to be contrary to the hiring process of Ron Prince. 


I have a feeling that Ron Prince was more UPJW and less ADTW. 

Though, don't forget the great Bill Snyder was sold on Prince after meeting with him
Title: Re: Fitz post on Huggins/Weiser worthy of topic
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on October 02, 2006, 09:57:08 PM
Quote
he basically states that he learned not to put too much stock into an interview, which would seem to be contrary to the hiring process of Ron Prince. 


I have a feeling that Ron Prince was more UPJW and less ADTW. 

Though, don't forget the great Bill Snyder was sold on Prince after meeting with him

I'm skeptical of that. Its not as if Snyder could meet with him and then tell the Kstate fan world that they hired the wrong guy whether he believed it or not.
Title: Re: Fitz post on Huggins/Weiser worthy of topic
Post by: chum1 on October 02, 2006, 10:56:00 PM
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he basically states that he learned not to put too much stock into an interview, which would seem to be contrary to the hiring process of Ron Prince.


I have a feeling that Ron Prince was more UPJW and less ADTW.

Though, don't forget the great Bill Snyder was sold on Prince after meeting with him

I'm skeptical of that. Its not as if Snyder could meet with him and then tell the Kstate fan world that they hired the wrong guy whether he believed it or not.

"Sold" isn't the right word.  Neither is "pissed."  It was somewhere in between the two.

Title: Re: Fitz post on Huggins/Weiser worthy of topic
Post by: Andy on October 02, 2006, 11:09:28 PM
i thought all snyder confirmed was that prince had good football X/O knowledge.