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Sports => Frank Martin's OOD sponsored by the "Angriest Fans in America" => Topic started by: fatty fat fat on February 07, 2009, 06:27:38 PM
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den-clem is pretty special. always nice to have a guard that can handle the ball like him, and can create shots. he's very augustin-lite, and he limits the major limitations this team has.
thoughts? thanks. facebook.
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He was a top 10 PG out of HS.
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Limits the major limitations this team has! A national championship team has limitations. They become national champions because they learn to cover them up.
K-States players are starting to mature. I really like what Frank has done here. I like the players as well. We have several players that can score when they have to. That imho is a limitation most team have. They look to me to be becoming a handful for all. I haven't seen this since the Hartman, Kruger days :kstatriot:
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He was a top 25 PG out of HS.
fyp, per rivals
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Yeah, quite a few were claiming that this team isn't talented not long ago. I'm not saying they are talented (or that they aren't), but, based on the reasoning, those people are now either changing their view or contradicting themselves.
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I said last week that this team has some talent but it is very raw. More and more experience will continue to bring it out but a lot of what I think you see these last couple weeks is a wave of confidence.
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2 top 150s. neither a top 50. no, the team is not talented, don't be ridiculous.
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2 top 150s. neither a top 50. no, the team is not talented, don't be ridiculous.
i'm saying we are talented at a position that means a lot.
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He was a top 25 PG out of HS.
fyp, per rivals
I was using scout.com
doesn't really matter. :kstatriot: :kstatriot: :kstatriot: :kstatriot:
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2 top 150s. neither a top 50. no, the team is not talented, don't be ridiculous.
That won't help. FFF retroactively evaluates recruits.
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2 top 150s. neither a top 50. no, the team is not talented, don't be ridiculous.
That won't help. FFF retroactively evaluates recruits.
yup. what's wrong w/that? noone knows exactly how good a kid is out of high school, we learn years later.
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2 top 150s. neither a top 50. no, the team is not talented, don't be ridiculous.
That won't help. FFF retroactively evaluates recruits.
Our guards have some talent. A good deal of talent imo.
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team still has crap talent. It's just been playing a lot better lately. We'll lose at home to Tech and/or a Nortard. Watch.
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at least we're knocking down open 3's fairly regularly this year.
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I think the Frank coached'em up discussion can now move forward.
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team still has crap talent. It's just been playing a lot better lately. We'll lose at home to Tech and/or a Nortard. Watch.
Guaranteed?
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team still has crap talent. It's just been playing a lot better lately. We'll lose at home to Tech and/or a Nortard. Watch.
Or else what?
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What's talent? Athleticism? Basketball skills?
We have two wonderfully athletes -- Samuels and Sutton -- who aren't particularly offensively gifted. Does that mean they're not talented?
Overall, we're not an especially offensively talented team, but we have three good guards who can shoot (if streaky).
We are a talented defensive and rebounding team. Effort, or effort and athleticism? I think it's the latter.
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Its hard to say. What we have on paper is still limited. But Den-ee may be working himself into a 2nd team all-league selection. When you have that, especially at pg, you have a chance. Then role players like Brown and Kent (yeah I said it) are playing up to expectations. To me the exciting thing is JamSam has kind of leveled;if he breaks thru the FR wall and truly compliments DC it could get even better.
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weird samuels tidbit - i always feel like he'll make his fts, even though he's like a 60% shooter or something.
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Talent or not the team has a chance to win 20+ games again this year making that 3 years in a row for them. When was the last time they accomplished that? I guess with where my expectations were leading into this season I've been impressed thus far.
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weird samuels tidbit - i always feel like he'll make his fts, even though he's like a 60% shooter or something.
you know what? I think the exact same thing. dude is money in crunch time.
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Please, no one else chime in with their impressions of Samuels shooting FTs. I've got enough to deal with when watching the games already.
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i agree with rusty on this one. we'll definitely lose two more that we 'should' win. this is one of the most inconsistent teams i've ever seen.
fun to watch though.
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The real surprise for me is this team figuring out how to win games on the road at this pace. Didn't expect this team to do that.
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weird samuels tidbit - i always feel like he'll make his fts, even though he's like a 60% shooter or something.
Totally glad I'm not the only one that feels that way.
:beerchug:
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Please, no one else chime in with their impressions of Samuels shooting FTs. I've got enough to deal with when watching the games already.
Didn't catch this before responding.
Crap.
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The real surprise for me is this team figuring out how to win games on the road at this pace. Didn't expect this team to do that.
yeah, wait til we lose @ ISU by 7
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weird samuels tidbit - i always feel like he'll make his fts, even though he's like a 60% shooter or something.
Because he shares pt with Anderson?
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yeah, wait til we lose @ ISU by 7
Totally possible. This year's team is just so streaky. We're winning right now because the team is playing with confidence. Jake, DC and (dare I say) DK are playing with confidence on the offensive end. The rotation of bigs is able to match up on defense because Lou+DK+Ron+Jamar= 20 fouls to give. Hell, might as well throw 'Nique in there and make it 25.
As long as the players come out aggressive and don't get rattled, the Qatz are in good shape. If we come out and get steamrolled by someone, it could start another losing streak.
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We weren't hitting shots at all in the first half, and A&M had a ton more foul shots than we did. Honestly, I think we could have beat them by 15. Either way, we are winning and doing it whether pretty or ugly. That has a lot to say about the team when we can win and play ugly. Hopefully we can continue this streak and maybe sneak a spot inside the bubble. Don't lose faith in a young team. They are gaining the confidence that none of us thought they had.
Honestly if this was last year I would say we would lose to an Iowa State by 7 after winning a few games. This team is finding ways to win. I think we will be ok IMO.
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Can't wait to see current crop of players + Wally + C-Kel + MacG + Mys'Cruit.
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come tomorrow could we be ranked in the AP top 25? we are already recieving few votes and we handed a&m their 2nd loss at home for the season. im not to sure if i want us to be ranked i want our players to keep playin like they got something to prove. :kstatriot:
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come tomorrow could we be ranked in the AP top 25? we are already recieving few votes and we handed a&m their 2nd loss at home for the season. im not to sure if i want us to be ranked i want our players to keep playin like they got something to prove. :kstatriot:
If the Cats win both games this week we'll be ranked.
ditto on the FTs
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I like Michrustycat's stratigery. Lets keep telling them they will loose then when they read this message board they will be all :curse: And then they will say we'll show them and go out and play there hearts out, and win the B12 tourny. EMAW michrustycat EMAW!
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This team has some talent, but mostlly they have some athleticism with a few talented players. I would like to think they have learned, and are now figuring out how they have to play every game to be successful. If they have that ingrained, then the inconsistency will fade and the team will maximize what they can achieve, talentwise. I have to say, I think we are seeing the kind of team, and the type of play Frank wants from this team. Many of the players have progressed, probably most obvious in DK suddenly showing some low post moves. Along with that, the players are developing some confidence rooted in knowing what they have to do. All good teams have that as a prereq. I have to give credit to the coaching staff. As uneven as this team has been early, they now look to be gaining some consistency in play, along with some of the player development. Perhaps Frank is also developing as a coach. It appears as if his message is getting through.