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Title: Colon or Kent
Post by: Applejack on February 06, 2009, 11:29:51 AM
I am in an argument, who would you rather have on your team, Colon or DK?

And we both understand that they are complete garbage.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: doom on February 06, 2009, 11:38:43 AM
I think Kent responds better to coaching in game, and Colon has grown more through coaching.  Neither of them can string positive plays together.  Colon is more physical and while he can foul out in 5 minutes I've seen Kent foul out the fastest.  I'd say Kent is a smarter player, and colon (gulp) is a better athlete.  Colon has the opportunity to be a better senior.  Maybe for that reason I take Kent so that in a year neither of them are on my team. 
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: fatty fat fat on February 06, 2009, 11:39:53 AM
kent.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: CrushNasty on February 06, 2009, 11:46:02 AM
kent.
No doubt.  What? Does Colon have one double double?
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: ksu_FAN on February 06, 2009, 11:49:16 AM
We will always have a few Kents/Colons.  Even with Frank as coach.

I'd take Kent b/c he's a more versatile player.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: steve dave on February 06, 2009, 11:55:32 AM
Kent
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: ~WabashRoll~ on February 06, 2009, 12:00:01 PM
Kent.

Free throws being the deciding factor.

Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: KITNfury on February 06, 2009, 12:21:08 PM
Colon.

Kent does little except make bonehead plays....as a senior. His free throw shooting makes it a difficult choice though.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: jthutch on February 06, 2009, 12:21:13 PM
Kent has dunked more thus wins my vote.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: WildGunman on February 06, 2009, 01:01:02 PM
Colon never took 4 shots from 3 in the same game.....and missed them all.

I vote for Colon because he knows his limitations.  Kent has better skills.....but not nearly as much as he thinks.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: Winters on February 06, 2009, 01:03:48 PM
Kent.

The dunk on Mayo is the deciding factor.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: cas on February 06, 2009, 01:16:17 PM
Going with the White Tiger.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: CatsNChiefs on February 06, 2009, 01:17:00 PM
Kent's Colon.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: jthutch on February 06, 2009, 01:18:41 PM
Oh and because Kent is a 2 handicap in golf in case you didn't know.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: ltrain37 on February 06, 2009, 01:19:48 PM
Kent

But I  :love: Colon's new baby-skyhook-thingie    <<<<<< not really
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: mirakulous on February 06, 2009, 01:47:53 PM
How is this even a debate?  Kent can shoot FTs.  Didn't his performance at the stripe save us at Colorado?
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: Applejack on February 06, 2009, 01:49:50 PM
Kent is miserable to watch. He has perfected the Rebound-Fall Over-Travel move. Colon will throw a punch, he wins.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: KITNfury on February 06, 2009, 01:52:34 PM
How is this even a debate?  Kent can shoot FTs.  Didn't his performance at the stripe save us at Colorado?
Lets not forget his 8 turnovers in a 2 point loss to uk.

Kent can't be counted on, at least you know what ur getting with colon.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: CrushNasty on February 06, 2009, 01:56:52 PM
How is this even a debate?  Kent can shoot FTs.  Didn't his performance at the stripe save us at Colorado?
Picked a good day to register for this site Mirak.  :kstatriot:
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: jester66 on February 06, 2009, 02:02:10 PM
I think it's pretty easy...Kent keeps JamSlam on the bench while Colon does the same for Anderson.  And I do give Kent props for his FT shooting, but he's just as capable of losing a game for us as bailing us out.  Also give Kent credit for being a Wildcat and sticking with the program through thick and thin.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: schreds21 on February 06, 2009, 02:09:35 PM
I think it's pretty easy...Kent keeps JamSlam on the bench while Colon does the same for Anderson.  And I do give Kent props for his FT shooting, but he's just as capable of losing a game for us as bailing us out.  Also give Kent credit for being a Wildcat and sticking with the program through thick and thin.


Where else was he gonna go?
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: KITNfury on February 06, 2009, 02:26:09 PM
I think it's pretty easy...Kent keeps JamSlam on the bench while Colon does the same for Anderson.  And I do give Kent props for his FT shooting, but he's just as capable of losing a game for us as bailing us out.  Also give Kent credit for being a Wildcat and sticking with the program through thick and thin.


Where else was he gonna go?
Detroit University
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: slucat on February 06, 2009, 02:34:57 PM
I think it's pretty easy...Kent keeps JamSlam on the bench while Colon does the same for Anderson.  And I do give Kent props for his FT shooting, but he's just as capable of losing a game for us as bailing us out.  Also give Kent credit for being a Wildcat and sticking with the program through thick and thin.


Where else was he gonna go?

Washburn ala our refer smokin' Hayden?

Kent, has had a pretty decent season.  Exceeded expectations as a Wooly leftover.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: michigancat on February 06, 2009, 02:41:48 PM
Colon is a much better player for the team.  Free throws are all Kent does significantly better, and that really isn't all that valuable a skill..  Colon shoots better, shoots less, and turns the ball over a ton less.  Kent's turnovers are mindblowing for a "4".
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: fatty fat fat on February 06, 2009, 02:44:02 PM
Colon is a much better player for the team.  Free throws are all Kent does significantly better, and that really isn't all that valuable a skill..  Colon shoots better, shoots less, and turns the ball over a ton less.  Kent's turnovers are mindblowing for a "4".

thx for the positive take. essential in the, "how good will we be next year" argument.

dunno dude. when luis can't hit those point blank shots......

kent is pretty amazing against a weak/small frontline. the guy is huge and pretty quick. scoring wise, that is.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: ksu_FAN on February 06, 2009, 02:49:33 PM
Colon is a much better player for the team.  Free throws are all Kent does significantly better, and that really isn't all that valuable a skill..  Colon shoots better, shoots less, and turns the ball over a ton less.  Kent's turnovers are mindblowing for a "4".

thx for the positive take. essential in the, "how good will we be next year" argument.

dunno dude. when luis can't hit those point blank shots......

kent is pretty amazing against a weak/small frontline. the guy is huge and pretty quick. scoring wise, that is.

Next year this will be the song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A0FxTDeklM) we think about when we think about D-Keasy.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: michigancat on February 06, 2009, 02:50:30 PM
Colon is a much better player for the team.  Free throws are all Kent does significantly better, and that really isn't all that valuable a skill..  Colon shoots better, shoots less, and turns the ball over a ton less.  Kent's turnovers are mindblowing for a "4".

thx for the positive take. essential in the, "how good will we be next year" argument.

dunno dude. when luis can't hit those point blank shots......

kent is pretty amazing against a weak/small frontline. the guy is huge and pretty quick. scoring wise, that is.

I'm just repeating kenpom.  :dunno:

Kent, shoots more than Sutton and samuels, and twice as much as Ron Anderson.  I mean, c'mon.  His retarded jump shots and turnovers hurt a lot more than Colon's missed layups.  Kent would miss a lot of layups, too, but he doesn't take many.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: fatty fat fat on February 06, 2009, 02:51:34 PM
Colon is a much better player for the team.  Free throws are all Kent does significantly better, and that really isn't all that valuable a skill..  Colon shoots better, shoots less, and turns the ball over a ton less.  Kent's turnovers are mindblowing for a "4".

thx for the positive take. essential in the, "how good will we be next year" argument.

dunno dude. when luis can't hit those point blank shots......

kent is pretty amazing against a weak/small frontline. the guy is huge and pretty quick. scoring wise, that is.

Next year this will be the song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A0FxTDeklM) we think about when we think about D-Keasy.

 :'( :'(

maybe he will come back for the ku game.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: powercat5000 on February 06, 2009, 02:59:07 PM
How about option 3) Jamar Samuels.   If he can stay out of foul trouble he plays better than colon or kent. If not i'd have to go with lou cuz he always looks pissed off and doesn't get pushed around.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: fatty fat fat on February 06, 2009, 03:00:16 PM
i'm changing to luis. f*ck kent
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: Rick Daris on February 06, 2009, 03:02:49 PM
ridiculous question to begin with- i wouldn't do either of them fwiw.  :users:
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: sys on February 06, 2009, 03:05:54 PM
kent's medium post game (he doesn't post hard enough to get the ball in the low post) has improved exponentially.  he's hard to stop unless you're a good defender.

defensively, he's pretty good except on guys that just overpower him.  and he def rebounds ok.


it'd be an easy choice for kent if it wasn't for the turnovers.  his turnovers are ridiculous.  i guess it'd depend on who the other four players are.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: Skycat on February 06, 2009, 03:06:31 PM
I'm just repeating kenpom.  :dunno:

Kent, shoots more than Sutton and samuels, and twice as much as Ron Anderson.  I mean, c'mon.  His retarded jump shots and turnovers hurt a lot more than Colon's missed layups.  Kent would miss a lot of layups, too, but he doesn't take many.

I dunno.  I think a lot of the usage difference has to be because Martin asks more of Kent than he does of Colon.  I'd still take Kent, even with the turnovers.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: michigancat on February 06, 2009, 03:36:34 PM
I'm just repeating kenpom.  :dunno:

Kent, shoots more than Sutton and samuels, and twice as much as Ron Anderson.  I mean, c'mon.  His retarded jump shots and turnovers hurt a lot more than Colon's missed layups.  Kent would miss a lot of layups, too, but he doesn't take many.

I dunno.  I think a lot of the usage difference has to be because Martin asks more of Kent than he does of Colon.  I'd still take Kent, even with the turnovers.

Yes, this kind of leads to the question of what is better:  someone who does a lot, and does it poorly, or someone who does very little pretty well?

Agree w/ sys, it kind of depends who's on the court at the same time. 

Like, if Sutton's on the court, I'd rather have Colon.  C-Merr, I'd rather have Kent. 

If I had to pick one or the other not knowing who they'd be playing with, I'd go w/ Colon.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: yosh on February 06, 2009, 03:41:47 PM
Under no circumstances would I ever pick Colon over Kent.  If you have other bigs that can score, Kent plays within himself more (see last season).  If you need him to score, Kent is a halfway decent option.  Colon stinks period.  If he was asked to do what Kent is asked to do, he'd have 10 to 15 turnovers a game easily.  Ridiculous to think Colon is better with the ball, or really better at any facet of basketball than Kent is.

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: michigancat on February 06, 2009, 03:42:28 PM
Under no circumstances would I ever pick Colon over Kent.  If you have other bigs that can score, Kent plays within himself more (see last season).  If you need him to score, Kent is a halfway decent option.  Colon stinks period.  If he was asked to do what Kent is asked to do, he'd have 10 to 15 turnovers a game easily.  Ridiculous to think Colon is better with the ball, or really better at any facet of basketball than Kent is.

 :rolleyes:

RACIST!




:peek:
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: jthutch on February 06, 2009, 04:27:09 PM
Under no circumstances would I ever pick Colon over Kent.  If you have other bigs that can score, Kent plays within himself more (see last season).  If you need him to score, Kent is a halfway decent option.  Colon stinks period.  If he was asked to do what Kent is asked to do, he'd have 10 to 15 turnovers a game easily.  Ridiculous to think Colon is better with the ball, or really better at any facet of basketball than Kent is.

 :rolleyes:

QFT!
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: michigancat on February 06, 2009, 04:56:37 PM
Under no circumstances would I ever pick Colon over Kent.  If you have other bigs that can score, Kent plays within himself more (see last season).  If you need him to score, Kent is a halfway decent option.  Colon stinks period.  If he was asked to do what Kent is asked to do, he'd have 10 to 15 turnovers a game easily.  Ridiculous to think Colon is better with the ball, or really better at any facet of basketball than Kent is.

 :rolleyes:

Also, Kent was much worse at TO's last year. 
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: schreds21 on February 06, 2009, 05:43:40 PM
Also, Kent was much worse at TO's last year. 
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QFT.  His turnovers were so raw last year.  The work he put in to develop that "rebound, fall down, get called for travelling"  manuever is commendable.  His passes directly to the opposing players weren't nearly as crisp last year either.
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: dr octagon on February 06, 2009, 06:18:11 PM
if colon and dk had a baby...

he would be more awkward than charles barkley's golf swing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s50K65PNeBU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s50K65PNeBU)
Title: Re: Colon or Kent
Post by: PowerKAT on February 06, 2009, 07:36:08 PM
Gotta take kent. Even tho he does fall when he rebounds and travels...got take him over a guy that runs like a robot (colon) But atleast colon tries. Still gotta go with the White Tiger