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Sports => Frank Martin's OOD sponsored by the "Angriest Fans in America" => Topic started by: sys on January 31, 2009, 11:07:25 PM
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that are running with the "martin slowed it down too soon" talking point. lol @ you, retards that think armstrong and gettys know wtf they're talking about. ksu's pace was slow all game, perhaps slightly slower in the 2nd, but not significant, if so. and it had nothing to do with ut erasing the lead, dumbasses.
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I hate few things more than people who get all x'y and o'y on message boards, as if they know ANYTHING about sports
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I hate few things more than people who get all x'y and o'y on message boards, as if they know ANYTHING about sports
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btw, really good slthy pic of bzz outcoaching the sh*t out of self
(http://a.espncdn.com/media/apphoto/cdfec73a-e5f8-4c72-b8ce-8846bb80a5b1.jpg)
:love:
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their road polos are better than the home polos.
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I hate few things more than people who get all x'y and o'y on message boards, as if they know ANYTHING about sports
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not u, them, your post didn't seem very "strategy talky"
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did we go box & 1 early in OT on Abrams?
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the problem was the turnovers, not the pace.
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the problem was the turnovers, not the pace.
that + not being able to stop james or johnson wo fouling. and giving away oboards like they were candy canes.
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that + not being able to stop james or johnson wo fouling. and giving away oboards like they were candy canes.
Especially when RA, JAM, LOU and espcially DK would get their hands on the ball first and then act like it was a big ball made out of HPV.
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did we go box & 1 early in OT on Abrams?
just checked @ 3:22 mark in OT looks like we are in box and one. either that or the guys are mixed up about what defense they are in. thought a box & 1 might have been effective when whorns were making their run late in the game slicing through the defense like a warm knife thru butter.
the problem was the turnovers, not the pace.
couldn't get the ball in bounds or past half court that last 10 minutes. had no choice to up tempo cuz even when we did get the ball past half court 8 or 9 seconds had run off the clock. it's not like we were running and gunning until then.
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lol @ you, retards that think armstrong and gettys know wtf they're talking about.
They are better than the guys in the studio after the game who said K-State's "game in Norman next Saturday just got a lot more interesting!" :confused:
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the problem was the turnovers, not the pace.
that + not being able to stop james or johnson wo fouling. and giving away oboards like they were candy canes.
Yes, just a horrible second half outside of clemente, overall.
I've noticed that when KSU gets big leads, teams have the most success on offense when they just put their head down and dribble to the rim.
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the problem was the turnovers, not the pace.
that + not being able to stop james or johnson wo fouling. and giving away oboards like they were candy canes.
Yes, just a horrible second half outside of clemente, overall.
I've noticed that when KSU gets big leads, teams have the most success on offense when they just put their head down and dribble to the rim.
This drives me nuts.
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the problem was the turnovers, not the pace.
that + not being able to stop james or johnson wo fouling. and giving away oboards like they were candy canes.
Yes, just a horrible second half outside of clemente, overall.
I've noticed that when KSU gets big leads, teams have the most success on offense when they just put their head down and dribble to the rim.
This may have been discussed but: Is there anything worse than getting a huge early lead on a super talented team like Texas and watching it get chipped away at for that long? I was on the edge of the edge. F'ing nerve racking. :ohno: :runaway: Obviously I enjoy getting out to big early leads on highly rated teams on the road but you know what I mean. :users:
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I think it's a learning process (holding, closing out big leads). Lots of things could have been done better in the second half. If Jake plays a little smarter, OT never sees light of day. He played hard, but when driving to the hole, he HAS to get into the defender and draw contact. He took some hard contact on two or three of those drives, but didn't get the call.
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the problem was the turnovers, not the pace.
that + not being able to stop james or johnson wo fouling. and giving away oboards like they were candy canes.
Yes, just a horrible second half outside of clemente, overall.
I've noticed that when KSU gets big leads, teams have the most success on offense when they just put their head down and dribble to the rim. I thought we would never get to the under 4 timeout.
This may have been discussed but: Is there anything worse than getting a huge early lead on a super talented team like Texas and watching it get chipped away at for that long? I was on the edge of the edge. F'ing nerve racking. :ohno: :runaway: Obviously I enjoy getting out to big early leads on highly rated teams on the road but you know what I mean. :users:
Yeah, because super-ridiculously talented teams are so athletic, and really good at pressing, making quick, tough shots, and pissing of Rusty.
I thought we would never get to that under 4 timeout.
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i'm not sure what it is about jake, but he rarely gets any calls when he goes into the lane.
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the problem was the turnovers, not the pace.
that + not being able to stop james or johnson wo fouling. and giving away oboards like they were candy canes.
Yes, just a horrible second half outside of clemente, overall.
I've noticed that when KSU gets big leads, teams have the most success on offense when they just put their head down and dribble to the rim. I thought we would never get to the under 4 timeout.
This may have been discussed but: Is there anything worse than getting a huge early lead on a super talented team like Texas and watching it get chipped away at for that long? I was on the edge of the edge. F'ing nerve racking. :ohno: :runaway: Obviously I enjoy getting out to big early leads on highly rated teams on the road but you know what I mean. :users:
Yeah, because super-ridiculously talented teams are so athletic, and really good at pressing, making quick, tough shots, and pissing of Rusty.
I thought we would never get to that under 4 timeout.
Yeah, really good players tend to make plays when games are on the line. We were fortunate to build a big enough lead that we could withstand it. When we maintained that 13 or so point lead until about 5-6 minutes left I thought we had a real good chance b/c that's tough for even really good teams to come back on even at home.
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yes, them coming back had little to do with us playing too slowly, and a lot to do with not being able to inbound the ball/get it across half-court, get past the half-court traps. And the fact that if they passed it inside they were scoring/getting fouled.
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i'm not sure what it is about jake, but he rarely gets any calls when he goes into the lane.
I thought the same thing. Maybe he jumps away from the basket at the last second? Maybe he doesn't flop enough? Oh well, we'll get those calls when Wilmer refs a game of ours; loves us. Loves us.
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This may have been discussed but: Is there anything worse than getting a huge early lead on a super talented team like Texas and watching it get chipped away at for that long? I was on the edge of the edge. F'ing nerve racking. :ohno: :runaway: Obviously I enjoy getting out to big early leads on highly rated teams on the road but you know what I mean. :users:
I know something worse - sd going ahead and declaring victory at the apex of the lead.
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Terrible 2nd half by several players because several players had exponential shrivel factor. LOL at Jake in all aspects of the game except hustle, and LOL when Lu just pee'd his shorts and threw the ball right to Texas.
Big props to Frank for holding them together, particularly in the OT.
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the problem was the turnovers, not the pace.
that + not being able to stop james or johnson wo fouling. and giving away oboards like they were candy canes.
Yes, just a horrible second half outside of clemente, overall.
I've noticed that when KSU gets big leads, teams have the most success on offense when they just put their head down and dribble to the rim.
This may have been discussed but: Is there anything worse than getting a huge early lead on a super talented team like Texas and watching it get chipped away at for that long? I was on the edge of the edge. F'ing nerve racking. :ohno: :runaway: Obviously I enjoy getting out to big early leads on highly rated teams on the road but you know what I mean. :users:
yes
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This may have been discussed but: Is there anything worse than getting a huge early lead on a super talented team like Texas and watching it get chipped away at for that long? I was on the edge of the edge. F'ing nerve racking. :ohno: :runaway: Obviously I enjoy getting out to big early leads on highly rated teams on the road but you know what I mean. :users:
I know something worse - sd going ahead and declaring victory at the apex of the lead.
That was prolly the only thing that secured it for us. I declared it directly to Frank's Cuban god and he knew better than to let me down.
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Who was dumb enough to say we slowed it down? This was our highest paced league game! No coincidence our best 2 league wins are our 2 games over 70 possessions.
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Terrible 2nd half by several players because several players had exponential shrivel factor. LOL at Jake in all aspects of the game except hustle, and LOL when Lu just pee'd his shorts and threw the ball right to Texas.
Big props to Frank for holding them together, particularly in the OT.
Huh? Jake had an excellent defensive game, not just hustle. And shut up you've been talking sh*t on everyone who even stuck up for Martin a little bit a week ago.
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Jake was good on defense I wish he woiuld learn that when you are not playing well offensivly PASS THE BALL, don't dribble into a five second call. And get it to the hot hand, Which was anyone other than him.
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Who was dumb enough to say we slowed it down? This was our highest paced league game! No coincidence our best 2 league wins are our 2 games over 70 possessions.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=173&f=2671&t=3865272
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i'm not sure what it is about jake, but he rarely gets any calls when he goes into the lane.
i think refs have stopped giving him calls b/c he falls down after every single shot in the lane he takes :flush:
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the pace definately changed down the stretch and clock management took precedent as we pulled the ball back into iso possesions on a number of trips. imo
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the pace definately changed down the stretch and clock management took precedent as we pulled the ball back into iso possesions on a number of trips. imo
part of that was texas making shots and having a good press. can't transition after made shots.
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that are running with the "martin slowed it down too soon" talking point. lol @ you, retards that think armstrong and gettys know wtf they're talking about. ksu's pace was slow all game, perhaps slightly slower in the 2nd, but not significant, if so. and it had nothing to do with ut erasing the lead, dumbasses.
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Anyone watching the game saw that when we started to speed things up, UT started killing us. It fed right into their strengths.
UT had trouble scoring when we got them into half court sets. They made it a game when they were able to muck it up and run. Abrams shoots a better three in transition than he does out of a set, IMO.
Anyway, I agree. I was digging the slow down game. Very effective yesterday.