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Title: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: phagallenblowsballs on January 22, 2009, 06:42:20 PM
than Ron Prince.

Name one coach in the big 12 that you woudnt trade Frank for.

Come on powertards defend the &@#%ing worthless trashy cuban!

Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: Butt Fugly on January 22, 2009, 06:48:05 PM
Frank took us dancing.


Ron took us to pre Bill.
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: phagallenblowsballs on January 22, 2009, 06:52:44 PM
Frank took us dancing.


Ron took us to pre Bill.

Not trying to defend Prince, but he did take us to a bowl game (with Snyder players).

And Beas and Walker took us dancing.....notice how Frank cant even take this team dancing to the frickin NIT.

If you cant even make the NIT in a year when the big 12 is down and you played such a pussy pre-conf. like we did....shoudnt even be a question.....go home Frank....Cuba is calling
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: PowercatPat on January 22, 2009, 07:07:12 PM
than Ron Prince.

Name one coach in the big 12 that you woudnt trade Frank for.

Come on powertards defend the fracking worthless trashy cuban!



Colorado coach, I forget his name.
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: nicname on January 22, 2009, 07:17:27 PM
Frank took us dancing.


Ron took us to pre Bill.

Not trying to defend Prince, but he did take us to a bowl game (with Snyder players).

And Beas and Walker took us dancing.....notice how Frank cant even take this team dancing to the frickin NIT.

If you cant even make the NIT in a year when the big 12 is down and you played such a pussy pre-conf. like we did....shoudnt even be a question.....go home Frank....Cuba is calling

Wow, we're not that good this year it sucks.  Though I hope you realize we just played 3 arguably the toughest teams in the conference and also played in Lincoln(where we always suck).  We aren't that good across the board though we do have some talent that will be filled in around next season. 

pretty blatantly bigoted as well I might add.
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: cireksu on January 22, 2009, 07:40:08 PM
the frank hate is proof positive of the blatant racism of western Kansas.
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: jester66 on January 22, 2009, 07:59:52 PM
Luckily, this thread has ended my quest for the dumbest post of the month.
 :powertard:
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: Skydog on January 22, 2009, 08:01:01 PM
than Ron Prince.

Name one coach in the big 12 that you woudnt trade Frank for.

Come on powertards defend the fracking worthless trashy cuban!



Jesus Christ, shut the &@#% up.
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: Bookcat on January 22, 2009, 08:03:33 PM
Keep Frank Martin and you get to keep what is ranked as one of the best recruiting classes in the nation...and,

Dalonte Hill's recruiting ties

Brad Underwood's recruiting ties

Greenawalt...award winning strength/conditioning coach/ trainer


I like our staff...but still undecided about Frank's in game coaching ability. I think he is still learning. Some awesome players will help him learn faster as it would for any other head coach in the country.

frack the h e ll off haters

 :powertard:
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: Skydog on January 22, 2009, 08:04:27 PM
Keep Frank Martin and you get to keep what is ranked as one of the best recruiting classes in the nation...and,

Dalonte Hill's recruiting ties

Brad Underwood's recruiting ties

Greenawalt...award winning strength/conditioning coach/ trainer


I like our staff...but still undecided about Frank's in game coaching ability. I think he is still learning. Some awesome players will help him learn faster.

frack the h e ll off haters

 :powertard:

I agree.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: michigancat on January 22, 2009, 08:05:36 PM
Am I too homerish for thinking NIT isn't out of the question?

:dunno:
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: SCHITZ on January 22, 2009, 08:07:04 PM
Keep Frank Martin and you get to keep what is ranked as one of the best recruiting classes in the nation...and,

Dalonte Hill's recruiting ties

Brad Underwood's recruiting ties

Greenawalt...award winning strength/conditioning coach/ trainer


I like our staff...but still undecided about Frank's in game coaching ability. I think he is still learning. Some awesome players will help him learn faster.

frack the h e ll off haters

 :powertard:

I agree.  :thumbsup:

I'm jumping on this train.  lolz at people that dont like frank....majorz  :lol: at people who think ron f'ing prince is a better hire
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: catzacker on January 22, 2009, 08:13:15 PM
Frank has been part of 4 recruiting classes thus far ('06-'09) for a total of 18 commits....of those 18 commits, 4 have been 5*, 3 have been 4*....so 7/18 have been 4* or higher......if Ronald's recruiting classes since '06 were made up of 7/18's 4 or 5* players he'd prolly still be here.  
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: Bookcat on January 22, 2009, 08:17:34 PM
If we had JACK CRAP for players coming in after this year..... such as, say, Ousammane Cisse or one of those Ivory Coast volleyball French cyborg jokes we had to endure with Wooldridge I would be much more willing to be negative about Frank Martin...but the fact of the matter is that we have recruiting pipelines with this staff. They know people who know people. Wooldridge never did. Asbury didn't either. We can thank Huggins for bringing these guys in who have connections to some of the best basketball talent in America.

If we land Cousins...omg.

So,
We are underachieving this year imho...but when you lose two NBA picks and are left with a young team with no inside threat what do you expect? this year will be tough. Let's give Frank more time. He's building something here.
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: Winters on January 22, 2009, 08:25:27 PM
than Ron Prince.

Name one coach in the big 12 that you woudnt trade Frank for.

Come on powertards defend the fracking worthless trashy cuban!


:powertard:
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: michigancat on January 22, 2009, 08:29:45 PM
If we had JACK CRAP for players coming in after this year..... such as, say, Ousammane Cisse or one of those Ivory Coast volleyball French cyborg jokes we had to endure with Wooldridge I would be much more willing to be negative about Frank Martin...but the fact of the matter is that we have recruiting pipelines with this staff. They know people who know people. Wooldridge never did. Asbury didn't either. We can thank Huggins for bringing these guys in who have connections to some of the best basketball talent in America.

This is a good point.  Wooly's Stewart/Allen class was acceptable, but his big man recruiting for the 2005 class made me lose it.  I mean, we were hoping for a visit from Abdul herrera.
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: steve dave on January 22, 2009, 08:35:06 PM
than Ron Prince.

Name one coach in the big 12 that you woudnt trade Frank for.

Come on powertards defend the fracking worthless trashy cuban!



BALDERDASH

I don't remember an NCAA tourny win in my lifetime other than Frank's.  If nothing else Frank has given me more than any KSU coach I can recall.  I'm young, granted, but don't be a ratard.
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: doom on January 22, 2009, 08:36:37 PM
Frank is a hero to us all.  Just thinking about him and how he saved our program makes me a little...  :'( ...  EMAWy
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: Jesus Shuttlesworth on January 22, 2009, 08:41:15 PM
the frank hate is proof positive of the blatant racism of western Kansas.

Exactly.  I'm hoping that the Olathe research campus eventually becomes the main campus.  There's plenty of land out there for some athletic facilities.  Think of that.  A short 30 minute car ride from KCI.  Between Lawrence and KC.  Awesome.

If KSU has the balls to make that move, leaving central/western Kansas in the dust, KSU would immediately be a better institution for it.

Some of you may think this is crazy.  Is it?  Really?  Think about it you &@#%ing hayseeds. 
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: steve dave on January 22, 2009, 08:47:27 PM
the frank hate is proof positive of the blatant racism of western Kansas.

Exactly.  I'm hoping that the Olathe research campus eventually becomes the main campus.  There's plenty of land out there for some athletic facilities.  Think of that.  A short 30 minute car ride from KCI.  Between Lawrence and KC.  Awesome.

If KSU has the balls to make that move, leaving central/western Kansas in the dust, KSU would immediately be a better institution for it.

Some of you may think this is crazy.  Is it?  Really?  Think about it you fracking hayseeds. 

question shuttle: Is Manhattan more redneck/white trash than Olathe?  It's close imo.  Close.
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: sys on January 22, 2009, 08:50:32 PM
i've been a big proponent of ksu-dc and ksu-miami for some time.
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: steve dave on January 22, 2009, 08:51:49 PM
i've been a big proponent of ksu-dc and ksu-miami for some time.

Would be amazing.  We can't all be Daris lording his fancy warm weather degree over everyone he sees  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: jaloma58 on January 22, 2009, 11:44:04 PM
Keep Frank Martin and you get to keep what is ranked as one of the best recruiting classes in the nation...and,

Dalonte Hill's recruiting ties

Brad Underwood's recruiting ties

Greenawalt...award winning strength/conditioning coach/ trainer


I like our staff...but still undecided about Frank's in game coaching ability. I think he is still learning. Some awesome players will help him learn faster as it would for any other head coach in the country.

frack the h e ll off haters

 :powertard:
I like this summarization.
just tough out the rest of this year...
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: FHSU92 on January 22, 2009, 11:55:45 PM
RP followed OB (yes he wasn't MAB anymore, but heading quickly to OB)
FM followed NB

Actually, there are several similarities except one...the ability to recruit beyond the first year.

Why did we keep/hire FM/$$man?  For ties to MB right?  Then why should any talk take place now before an even better class o'all is coming in 6 effin months.
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: sys on January 22, 2009, 11:57:01 PM
just tough out the rest of this year...

ksufans are going to be so meltdowny next year.  will make this year's cat fans look rational.
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: jthutch on January 23, 2009, 08:26:15 AM




If KSU has the balls to make that move, leaving central/western Kansas in the dust, KSU would immediately be a better institution for it.

Some of you may think this is crazy.  Is it?  Really?  Think about it you fracking hayseeds. 
[/quote]

LKGIQ (Low Kansas Geography IQ)  Manhattan Kansas is in the Eastern half of the state. 
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: Bookcat on January 23, 2009, 09:07:11 AM
Frank will go down on phagallen's wife.
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: Bookcat on January 23, 2009, 09:09:29 AM
Quote
Name one coach in the big 12 that you woudnt trade Frank for.
I'll name three

Pat Knight

Greg McDermott

CU's slth

otherwise...awesome slam on us
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: steve dave on January 23, 2009, 09:11:41 AM
Quote
Name one coach in the big 12 that you woudnt trade Frank for.
I'll name three

Pat Knight

Greg McDermott

CU's slth

otherwise...awesome slam on us

+

Ford & Anderson
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: michigancat on January 23, 2009, 09:30:47 AM
Quote
Name one coach in the big 12 that you woudnt trade Frank for.
I'll name three

Pat Knight

Greg McDermott

CU's slth

otherwise...awesome slam on us

+

Ford & Anderson

+Turgeon

+Sadler
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: catzacker on January 23, 2009, 09:35:29 AM
Quote
Name one coach in the big 12 that you woudnt trade Frank for.
I'll name three

Pat Knight

Greg McDermott

CU's slth

otherwise...awesome slam on us

+

Ford & Anderson

+Turgeon

+Sadler

This is why I laugh at people trying to say "see, told you Frank sucks..." ....like, our alternatives (or their ilk) that we would have hired are at all the other schools whose basketball team sucks.  And while some would argue you can't assume that KSU would have made a bad hire.....given what we know about Wefald, Weiser, and Krause and their decision making, it's a safe assumption.  As a matter of fact, it's not even an assumption.  It would have happened.  We would have hired McDermott and been sitting here saying "if he could just get some better recruits".
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: michigancat on January 23, 2009, 09:43:35 AM
Quote
Name one coach in the big 12 that you woudnt trade Frank for.
I'll name three

Pat Knight

Greg McDermott

CU's slth

otherwise...awesome slam on us

+

Ford & Anderson

+Turgeon

+Sadler

This is why I laugh at people trying to say "see, told you Frank sucks..." ....like, our alternatives (or their ilk) that we would have hired are at all the other schools whose basketball team sucks.  And while some would argue you can't assume that KSU would have made a bad hire.....given what we know about Wefald, Weiser, and Krause and their decision making, it's a safe assumption.  As a matter of fact, it's not even an assumption.  It would have happened.  We would have hired McDermott and been sitting here saying "if he could just get some better recruits".

I know.  I mean, there's 9 coaches in the league that haven't accomplished more than Martin has accomplished in the Big 12.  Only, Self and Barnes have gone further in the tournament or finished as high as third in the league.  Think about that sh*t for a second.

Granted, the recruits were the #1 reason for this, but why would we trade this for a bunch of coaches that haven't accomplished as much as Martin has in one season?  The arguments just don't make sense when you really think about it.
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: Stupid Fitz on January 23, 2009, 10:10:28 AM
tired of you frackers bashing frank. Mike Shooshefski (sp?) couldn't win with these pussies. Let's fire Frank and have a coach bring in even more pussies instead of a top class next year. I hate stupid people.  :banghead:
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: pissclams on January 23, 2009, 10:11:21 AM
Quote
Name one coach in the big 12 that you woudnt trade Frank for.
I'll name three

Pat Knight

Greg McDermott

CU's slth

otherwise...awesome slam on us

+

Ford & Anderson

+Turgeon

+Sadler

This is why I laugh at people trying to say "see, told you Frank sucks..." ....like, our alternatives (or their ilk) that we would have hired are at all the other schools whose basketball team sucks.  And while some would argue you can't assume that KSU would have made a bad hire.....given what we know about Wefald, Weiser, and Krause and their decision making, it's a safe assumption.  As a matter of fact, it's not even an assumption.  It would have happened.  We would have hired McDermott and been sitting here saying "if he could just get some better recruits".

I know.  I mean, there's 9 coaches in the league that haven't accomplished more than Martin has accomplished in the Big 12.  Only, Self and Barnes have gone further in the tournament or finished as high as third in the league.  Think about that sh*t for a second.

Granted, the recruits were the #1 reason for this, but why would we trade this for a bunch of coaches that haven't accomplished as much as Martin has in one season?  The arguments just don't make sense when you really think about it.
+Seff.  that racist twit wouldn't last a minute in MHK. (MHK almost like MLK).
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: steve dave on January 23, 2009, 10:18:46 AM
Quote
Name one coach in the big 12 that you woudnt trade Frank for.
I'll name three

Pat Knight

Greg McDermott

CU's slth

otherwise...awesome slam on us

+

Ford & Anderson

+Turgeon

+Sadler

This is why I laugh at people trying to say "see, told you Frank sucks..." ....like, our alternatives (or their ilk) that we would have hired are at all the other schools whose basketball team sucks.  And while some would argue you can't assume that KSU would have made a bad hire.....given what we know about Wefald, Weiser, and Krause and their decision making, it's a safe assumption.  As a matter of fact, it's not even an assumption.  It would have happened.  We would have hired McDermott and been sitting here saying "if he could just get some better recruits".

I know.  I mean, there's 9 coaches in the league that haven't accomplished more than Martin has accomplished in the Big 12.  Only, Self and Barnes have gone further in the tournament or finished as high as third in the league.  Think about that sh*t for a second.

Granted, the recruits were the #1 reason for this, but why would we trade this for a bunch of coaches that haven't accomplished as much as Martin has in one season?  The arguments just don't make sense when you really think about it.
+Seff.  that racist twit wouldn't last a minute in MHK. (MHK almost like MLK).

good point
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: ERA7777 on January 23, 2009, 10:34:54 AM


Come on powertards defend the fracking worthless trashy cuban!



Petro had a pretty good point yesterday on his show.  He said that Boeheim started his career as a pretty bad gameday coach.  He made up for it with great talent on the floor.  Then, he gradually kept getting better as a gameday coach and didn't have to lean as heavily on top shelf talent.  Not comparing the two coaches, but it's Franks second year as a head coach and his team is young.  Give the man some Fracking time.
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: phagallenblowsballs on January 23, 2009, 11:17:36 AM
Quote
Name one coach in the big 12 that you woudnt trade Frank for.
I'll name three

Pat Knight

Greg McDermott

CU's slth

otherwise...awesome slam on us

+

Ford & Anderson

+Turgeon

+Sadler

Get the &@#% out of here!  Sadler?  That guy is on an entire different coaching level than Frank could even dream of.

Sadler could take a high school team (which is pretty much all he has now) and still hand Frank his third world ass.  Sadler will win in Manhattan this year too.

I would agree with the Pat Knight choice.  That guy aint worth a crap either.

No excuse for ol FrackFaceFrank to not come home from boulder this weekend without a win.  Well unless Frank uses the "coaching excuse".

0-4 and counting.....
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: phagallenblowsballs on January 23, 2009, 11:20:15 AM
the frank hate is proof positive of the blatant racism of western Kansas.

And people who live in Eastern KS arent racists?  What a f'n idiot.  I didnt think people are that stupid.
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: phagallenblowsballs on January 23, 2009, 11:22:59 AM
Luckily, this thread has ended my quest for the dumbest post of the month.
 :powertard:

Cant be.  Some idiot started a thread about giving Frank a raise and extension already. 

I think we all remember how the last time we gave an extension to an INEXPERIENCED MINORITY HEAD COACH worked out, right?

FAIL!

But if an extension is what gets him out of here, F it, im all for it.
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: Skydog on January 23, 2009, 12:33:02 PM
Luckily, this thread has ended my quest for the dumbest post of the month.
 :powertard:

Cant be.  Some idiot started a thread about giving Frank a raise and extension already. 

I think we all remember how the last time we gave an extension to an INEXPERIENCED MINORITY HEAD COACH worked out, right?

FAIL!

But if an extension is what gets him out of here, F it, im all for it.


wtf. You are making our whole fan base look like a bunch of bigoted assholes. Just stfu already.
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: Luke-KSU on January 23, 2009, 10:33:48 PM
wow 1 bad season and you guys are bashing on him...get a life! if u think he sucks so bad u get down there and do it for him...he is almost the best recruiter that k-state basketball has ever had, and he also took us to the dance which has been long wanted.

Frank you are a good coach, keep up the work and this program will be fine. :ksu:
Title: Re: Frank will go down as even a worse hire.....
Post by: Purrrple on January 24, 2009, 12:51:03 PM
If the recuiting starts to go downhill, Frank will go bye-bye. I have seen more creative offenses executed in middle school basketball leagues than KSU's. Just sayin.

Last year's game plan - get that Ball to Beaz.

This year - throw the ball around and then run Clemente up the middle to throw up a prayer. WTF? No really. :confused:

Next year -  :popcorn: