Wefald said. "You know what I'm saying? A little more irksome. I'm saying, 'I think this is what's best for K-State,' and I think Tim was more concerned about his authority."
I really dont like TW but I think this was just two guys who got into an anatomy measuring contest which is never good for a university. Interesting to see that (me reading between the lines) Prince play TW and JW against each other to get his raise and contract extension. I think he knew he wasnt recruiting well back then and wanted to larger buy out to fatten his wallet and/or provide more job security.
Weiser was right about Prince
Weiser was right about Prince
We should start a rumor that Weiser was a racist to make ourselves feel better. Like, "Hey, he didn't want Prince but it had nothing to do with him as a football coach...(whisper) racist"
As a back of the envelope guess I would say about 50±10%. Solidly mediocre, but not tragically bad.Weiser was right about Prince
We should start a rumor that Weiser was a racist to make ourselves feel better. Like, "Hey, he didn't want Prince but it had nothing to do with him as a football coach...(whisper) racist"
Excellent idea.
You know if Weeper was a smart man, and frankly, I am firmly now in the camp of the guy being pretty much an idiot, I was just in the camp of the guy just being a goofy academic . . . he would've just stood back and admired his "I hired Bill Snyder" trophy he had made for himself, and rode that "legacy" and that legacy alone into the sunset in regards to his athletic director exploits. Instead, he thought he was a "sports guy" and stuck his nose into everything.
Would one of you guys run a W-L total for KSU hoops under the Weeper.
As a back of the envelope guess I would say about 50±10%. Solidly mediocre, but not tragically bad.
I can't believe Krause is still using the "he just ran out of time" line about Prince. Not only is it BS it also makes him look like a gutless pussy who caved into the fans rather then doing what he felt was right. Just step up and say Prince sucked and was running the program into the ground. Look at what we have coming back in football this year and try to argue that Prince just ran out of time. I mean not only do the players suck but he would have had to find a new DC and who in their right mind would have taken that job?
http://cjonline.com/stories/012209/kan_380163852.shtml
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As a back of the envelope guess I would say about 50±10%. Solidly mediocre, but not tragically bad.
Jesus I hate our fans. Mediocre IS tragically bad. Get it through your skulls. :angry:
Biggest problem with KSU (and its fanbase)? Being mediocre (at best) somehow translates to being on top of the world just because it means there are at least a few schools you're better than.
What a bunch of f*ckup retards. (wefald especially)
On a related note.:yuck:
The Chancellor of East Carolina University is at K-State today giving is public presentation for the the KSU presidency position.
Prior to ECU, he was at UMKC.
As a back of the envelope guess I would say about 50±10%. Solidly mediocre, but not tragically bad.
Jesus I hate our fans. Mediocre IS tragically bad. Get it through your skulls. :angry:
Biggest problem with KSU (and its fanbase)? Being mediocre (at best) somehow translates to being on top of the world just because it means there are at least a few schools you're better than.
Mediocre is NOT tragically bad, no matter how much you wanna crap your pants over it.
I never said it was top of world either, in fact I specifically said it was MEDIOCRE (words do have meanings you know).
On a related note.:yuck:
The Chancellor of East Carolina University is at K-State today giving is public presentation for the the KSU presidency position.
Prior to ECU, he was at UMKC.
On a related note.:yuck:
The Chancellor of East Carolina University is at K-State today giving is public presentation for the the KSU presidency position.
Prior to ECU, he was at UMKC.
Why do you say that?? Just asking, I don't know one way or the other.
Plus, there's apparently an undisclosed mysprescandidate.
Guess what? KSU is a nobody then. If someone wants to run that smack on me for being a K-State fan let them. I don't give a crap what other people think.As a back of the envelope guess I would say about 50±10%. Solidly mediocre, but not tragically bad.
Jesus I hate our fans. Mediocre IS tragically bad. Get it through your skulls. :angry:
Biggest problem with KSU (and its fanbase)? Being mediocre (at best) somehow translates to being on top of the world just because it means there are at least a few schools you're better than.
Mediocre is NOT tragically bad, no matter how much you wanna crap your pants over it.
I never said it was top of world either, in fact I specifically said it was MEDIOCRE (words do have meanings you know).
Mediocre IS bad when it comes to recognition. If you're not on top, you're on the bottom (to paraphrase Ricky Bobby's dad).
I challenge anyone without sports geek knowledge to tell me who finished the football season ranked 10-25. I can't. Because I could have cared less. I only cared about watching the top few teams play.
I'd also be surprised if you could find anyone who could list a majority of the last 32 teams in the NCAA field last year. Consider that there's like 331 D-1 basketball teams. You make the first cut of the tourney and you're in the top 10% in the nation. And unless you make the Final Four or possibly Elite Eight, who remembers you? What non-alum fans care?
Ask a non-Wildcat/non-Kansan about KSU football and they'll say that they were good for "a couple years". Pretty much true when you consider they never finished the season with a top 5 ranking and only went to the Fiesta (major) bowl twice.
Point being, if you're not in the elite, you're nobody.
Ask a non-Wildcat/non-Kansan about KSU football and they'll say that they were good for "a couple years". Pretty much true when you consider they never finished the season with a top 5 ranking and only went to the Fiesta (major) bowl twice.
Guess what? KSU is a nobody then. If someone wants to run that smack on me for being a K-State fan let them. I don't give a crap what other people think.As a back of the envelope guess I would say about 50±10%. Solidly mediocre, but not tragically bad.
Jesus I hate our fans. Mediocre IS tragically bad. Get it through your skulls. :angry:
Biggest problem with KSU (and its fanbase)? Being mediocre (at best) somehow translates to being on top of the world just because it means there are at least a few schools you're better than.
Mediocre is NOT tragically bad, no matter how much you wanna crap your pants over it.
I never said it was top of world either, in fact I specifically said it was MEDIOCRE (words do have meanings you know).
Mediocre IS bad when it comes to recognition. If you're not on top, you're on the bottom (to paraphrase Ricky Bobby's dad).
I challenge anyone without sports geek knowledge to tell me who finished the football season ranked 10-25. I can't. Because I could have cared less. I only cared about watching the top few teams play.
I'd also be surprised if you could find anyone who could list a majority of the last 32 teams in the NCAA field last year. Consider that there's like 331 D-1 basketball teams. You make the first cut of the tourney and you're in the top 10% in the nation. And unless you make the Final Four or possibly Elite Eight, who remembers you? What non-alum fans care?
Ask a non-Wildcat/non-Kansan about KSU football and they'll say that they were good for "a couple years". Pretty much true when you consider they never finished the season with a top 5 ranking and only went to the Fiesta (major) bowl twice.
Point being, if you're not in the elite, you're nobody.
If you want KSU to become an elite (your definition) sports institution, system wide and fundamental changes must be made to the entire NCAA guidelines.
I don't like it when KSU is mediocre in sports for stretches, but I challenge you to name schools similar in size, affluence, and location to KSU that you would consider "elite".
Guess what? KSU is a nobody then. If someone wants to run that smack on me for being a K-State fan let them. I don't give a crap what other people think.As a back of the envelope guess I would say about 50±10%. Solidly mediocre, but not tragically bad.
Jesus I hate our fans. Mediocre IS tragically bad. Get it through your skulls. :angry:
Biggest problem with KSU (and its fanbase)? Being mediocre (at best) somehow translates to being on top of the world just because it means there are at least a few schools you're better than.
Mediocre is NOT tragically bad, no matter how much you wanna crap your pants over it.
I never said it was top of world either, in fact I specifically said it was MEDIOCRE (words do have meanings you know).
Mediocre IS bad when it comes to recognition. If you're not on top, you're on the bottom (to paraphrase Ricky Bobby's dad).
I challenge anyone without sports geek knowledge to tell me who finished the football season ranked 10-25. I can't. Because I could have cared less. I only cared about watching the top few teams play.
I'd also be surprised if you could find anyone who could list a majority of the last 32 teams in the NCAA field last year. Consider that there's like 331 D-1 basketball teams. You make the first cut of the tourney and you're in the top 10% in the nation. And unless you make the Final Four or possibly Elite Eight, who remembers you? What non-alum fans care?
Ask a non-Wildcat/non-Kansan about KSU football and they'll say that they were good for "a couple years". Pretty much true when you consider they never finished the season with a top 5 ranking and only went to the Fiesta (major) bowl twice.
Point being, if you're not in the elite, you're nobody.
If you want KSU to become an elite (your definition) sports institution, system wide and fundamental changes must be made to the entire NCAA guidelines.
I don't like it when KSU is mediocre in sports for stretches, but I challenge you to name schools similar in size, affluence, and location to KSU that you would consider "elite".
I agree with Ching. You can call it lowering the bar or whatever. I call it reality. But I didn't choose to go to school at Texas, Florida, or even Kansas. I chose K-State and with that I chose what kind of fan I would be for life.
Guess what? KSU is a nobody then. If someone wants to run that smack on me for being a K-State fan let them. I don't give a crap what other people think.As a back of the envelope guess I would say about 50±10%. Solidly mediocre, but not tragically bad.
Jesus I hate our fans. Mediocre IS tragically bad. Get it through your skulls. :angry:
Biggest problem with KSU (and its fanbase)? Being mediocre (at best) somehow translates to being on top of the world just because it means there are at least a few schools you're better than.
Mediocre is NOT tragically bad, no matter how much you wanna crap your pants over it.
I never said it was top of world either, in fact I specifically said it was MEDIOCRE (words do have meanings you know).
Mediocre IS bad when it comes to recognition. If you're not on top, you're on the bottom (to paraphrase Ricky Bobby's dad).
I challenge anyone without sports geek knowledge to tell me who finished the football season ranked 10-25. I can't. Because I could have cared less. I only cared about watching the top few teams play.
I'd also be surprised if you could find anyone who could list a majority of the last 32 teams in the NCAA field last year. Consider that there's like 331 D-1 basketball teams. You make the first cut of the tourney and you're in the top 10% in the nation. And unless you make the Final Four or possibly Elite Eight, who remembers you? What non-alum fans care?
Ask a non-Wildcat/non-Kansan about KSU football and they'll say that they were good for "a couple years". Pretty much true when you consider they never finished the season with a top 5 ranking and only went to the Fiesta (major) bowl twice.
Point being, if you're not in the elite, you're nobody.
If you want KSU to become an elite (your definition) sports institution, system wide and fundamental changes must be made to the entire NCAA guidelines.
I don't like it when KSU is mediocre in sports for stretches, but I challenge you to name schools similar in size, affluence, and location to KSU that you would consider "elite".
I agree with Ching. You can call it lowering the bar or whatever. I call it reality. But I didn't choose to go to school at Texas, Florida, or even Kansas. I chose K-State and with that I chose what kind of fan I would be for life.
I'm a K-State fan too. Which is why I care. Oklahoma (football/basketball), Nebraska (football), CU (football), ku (basketball, BCS bowl)... Similar sized schools in the same conference which can boast national titles and conference championships fairly recently. We've won our conference once. We have a devoted (albeit sometimes delusionary [see BigCat]) fanbase that is willing to donate to and support our university and athletics department if the direction was there.
We got rid of Woolybear and brought in Huggins (luck?): good move. We got rid of the binder and brought back Snyder. Solid move but sideways in some respects, i.e. who is his successor?
But we have (at least temporarily) a president who acts as an overlord in the athletic department, and his ice-fishing crony who has no business being an AD.
Point being that the fans do, at times, speak—to varying effect. But I think we should demand better. I'll admit that I'm jaded, but not so much that I expect K-State football and basketball to finish in the top 10 every year. I do, however, think we should consistently compete at that level. I guess I just think too highly of our university to have its national reputation sullied by the fact that we go two decades in basketball without forcing the changes necessary to compete at a consistently high level.
Football, we got a taste. Basketball? We threw away 40 years of being one of the top programs in the country because for some reason the fans forgot that we belonged there.
you could easily argue ksu is the luckiest school alive because of our absurd 11 year run.
http://www.themercury.com/News/article.aspx?articleId=0e08b73dc3f74bf989c5f71be0d8e7ae
http://www.themercury.com/News/article.aspx?articleId=0e08b73dc3f74bf989c5f71be0d8e7ae
it's amazing that we offerred Leavitt what we reportedly offerred him (wasn't it like 2.5-3m?).
We got rid of Woolybear and brought in Huggins (luck?): good move. We got rid of the binder and brought back Snyder. Solid move
We got rid of Woolybear and brought in Huggins (luck?): good move. We got rid of the binder and brought back Snyder. Solid move
The above statement sums up why Ksu is mediocre.
lollers. good work meek.
http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=3652080 (http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=3652080)
I love it, trust me, had this happened under Timid Timmy, he would've done everything in his power to avoid the issue entirely.
That's what he did nothing but hmmm and haw for 3 freaking years about the facilities projects that Bob Krause did more work on in 4 months than Timid Timmy did in 36 months.
I love it, trust me, had this happened under Timid Timmy, he would've done everything in his power to avoid the issue entirely.
That's what he did nothing but hmmm and haw for 3 freaking years about the facilities projects that Bob Krause did more work on in 4 months than Timid Timmy did in 36 months.
I love it, trust me, had this happened under Timid Timmy, he would've done everything in his power to avoid the issue entirely.
That's what he did nothing but hmmm and haw for 3 freaking years about the facilities projects that Bob Krause did more work on in 4 months than Timid Timmy did in 36 months.
dax, I'm with you bro. But, you have to LMAO at how much a disaster our entire AD is. Krause is Yosemite Sam (gotta love him, he tries) and Weiser is whatever cartoon character won't put out and is always worried about the temperature. Either way I don't want either in charge of my AD office. What are the chances that our new president walks in first day and does an Obama like re-tooling of the whole f^cking mess? Hopefully it happens.
Meek with more scoop today....
http://cjonline.com/stories/012309/cat_380557162.shtml
Regardless of whether you like Bob or not, this is a hilarious/embarrassing situation for K-State depending on how you look at it. The fact that they explain away the buyout/money issue by basically saying they did a quick fix by hiring Krause and not going out to look for a real AD is just silly IMO. It would be much better if they would just not say anything, even after the Meeks piece.
Hire a new President....get a real athletic director....Give Snyder and Martin another four years to build something. Kstate sports will be just fine!
:angry: :powertard: :powertard: :powertard:
Regardless of whether you like Bob or not, this is a hilarious/embarrassing situation for K-State depending on how you look at it. The fact that they explain away the buyout/money issue by basically saying they did a quick fix by hiring Krause and not going out to look for a real AD is just silly IMO. It would be much better if they would just not say anything, even after the Meeks piece.
Well, I'll fully admit that I could be wrong about BK, but as far as a couple of very important things, I think he'll have K-State in a much better position, and if you think about it, no AD truly worth a damn would come to K-State as long as Wefald is around.
So as far as I am concerned BK is a good fit because he's hellbent on getting a couple of crucial things done that will position K-State a lot better in the future. If BK gets it all done the next AD won't have to deal with it, and that in fact may make K-State more attractive to a good candidate.
Regardless of whether you like Bob or not, this is a hilarious/embarrassing situation for K-State depending on how you look at it. The fact that they explain away the buyout/money issue by basically saying they did a quick fix by hiring Krause and not going out to look for a real AD is just silly IMO. It would be much better if they would just not say anything, even after the Meeks piece.
Regardless of whether you like Bob or not, this is a hilarious/embarrassing situation for K-State depending on how you look at it. The fact that they explain away the buyout/money issue by basically saying they did a quick fix by hiring Krause and not going out to look for a real AD is just silly IMO. It would be much better if they would just not say anything, even after the Meeks piece.
QFT^100%
It's like going home after you've lost 20K at the Casinos and telling your wife that everything's fine, we'll still be okay, but we just can't eat anything for a year. University Presidents (and their like) are some of the dumbest smart people around.
But according to Wefald and athletic director Bob Krause, the roughly $500,000 a year Prince's departure is costing K-State, when coupled with new coach Dave Brock's salary of $500,000, means the university is spending the same money it would have spent had Prince stayed on and fulfilled the entire 5-year contract he signed in 2008. They said Brock is the lowest-paid football coach in the Big 12.
Either way I don't want either in charge of my AD office. What are the chances that our new president walks in first day and does an Obama like re-tooling of the whole f^cking mess? Hopefully it happens.
"Yeah, he and I, we talk," Krause said. "Mostly about his take on national trends.... About a lot of things that don't impact the conference."
I can't find the open letter from Krause that he said was on the KSU site. Anyone?
Meek is basically my hero for exposing the jokejobs that Weiser and Krause are.
FWIW, Meek, if you're reading this, PM me if you want to get an apartment together. I can cook.
I can't find the open letter from Krause that he said was on the KSU site. Anyone?
Meek is basically my hero for exposing the jokejobs that Weiser and Krause are.
FWIW, Meek, if you're reading this, PM me if you want to get an apartment together. I can cook.
Might have to check with the wife on that one ....
I can't find the open letter from Krause that he said was on the KSU site. Anyone?
Meek is basically my hero for exposing the jokejobs that Weiser and Krause are.
FWIW, Meek, if you're reading this, PM me if you want to get an apartment together. I can cook.
Might have to check with the wife on that one ....
http://media.kansas.com/smedia/2009/01/22/17/012309weiser001.source.prod_affiliate.80.pdf
Someone read this whole thing and summarize (I'm looking at your Dax)
Why don't we get a well-known, ex-CEO of a major company or an ex politician to run the university? At least the CEO would run it like a business and the politician could bring clout. I don't want any more hopeful Nancy boys from BFE Technical School to be in charge of our university. We need a big hire.
Am I missing something, or is there a good reason for us paying Weiser $1.9 million dollars to leave?
Seriously, WTF?
Am I missing something, or is there a good reason for us paying Weiser $1.9 million dollars to leave?
Seriously, WTF?
I guess I can understand giving him some money but I don't get all the other stuff. Travel expenses, season tickets, final 4 tickets, country club memberships. I guess they want him to shut up about something. Wish I knew what. :dunno:
paid because he was fired. duh.
paid because he was fired. duh.
if wefald didn't like him, that's good enough reason for me. should be good enough for all w'cats after all he's done for our univ.