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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: opcat on September 26, 2006, 01:47:37 PM
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By the way , other board says Matt Boss made the lineup finally(good psyche move by prince). I think prince's depth chart wasn't permanent so that guys with talent play up to it. Echols now starting & so is Watts(injury for drop in chart ?).
Why don't we use an offensive lineman or Mastrud as a fullback blow some sh** up for the run game ?
We need to do something!
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By the way , other board says Matt Boss made the lineup finally(good psyche move by prince). I think prince's depth chart wasn't permanent so that guys with talent play up to it. Echols now starting & so is Watts(injury for drop in chart ?).
Why don't we use an offensive lineman or Mastrud as a fullback blow some sh** up for the run game ?
We need to do something!
Excellent idea! Considering how rock-hard Mastrud's hands are, perhaps he could bludgeon the opposition with them as a blocker instead of a hapless, slow, caucasian reciever!
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Rimmon McNeese would have been perfect for a blocking fullback. He's doing nothing now besides sittiing on the bench. God bless McCardle, but he's entirely too small and cannot take on a LB as a FB should.
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We play with 2 TEs most of the time so #s-wise we should be fine running the ball. Don't look for a FB anytime soon as long as Prince is in charge. The pure zone running attack we use now doesn't rely on a FB nearly as much as Snyder's schemes anyway, its just a matter of having the right types of Olinemen (think Broncos), players executing their assignments, and RBs being good decision makers as they pick their own seams. I think the issues we are having in the running game are factors of all 3 this year, hopefully we'll continue to grow into this new scheme with our current players, and over time Prince will get players that fit the scheme better as well.
That said, I wouldn't mind seeing us use a TE or even an OL/DL (like the Colts and other NFL teams do that don't have FBs) when a FB is needed, ie. short yardage situations/goalline. I think McCardle is a heck of a kid and worker, but I'd rather see some beef in there in the few times we do utilize a FB.
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Also, 2 TE offenses are a trend as this article I saw posted on GP from SI points out:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/
Double-barreled
The new prototype tight end has become so effective in the passing game that many teams are using two at a time
By Nunyo Demasio
While Terrell Owens's signing caused the biggest off-season stir in Dallas, it wasn't the Cowboys' only intriguing personnel move. In April, they drafted Notre Dame tight end Anthony Fasano in the second round -- despite having a 24-year-old, two-time Pro Bowl player, Jason Witten, already manning the position. Far from a challenge to Witten, who averaged 63 receptions over his first three seasons, Fasano's drafting signaled a change in coach Bill Parcells's playbook. This year the Cowboys are joining roughly one third of NFL teams in employing two tight ends in their base offenses.
The alignment was in vogue in the 1990s, before three-receiver sets and spread formations became the offensive craze. But as defenses adjusted to that aerial attack, the two-tight-end set returned, with a twist: Increased athleticism at the position makes the alignment a more formidable weapon than before. "This hybrid position is not a traditional tight end," says Parcells, who is using Witten (6'5'', 265 pounds) and Fasano (6'4'', 258) together on about 80% of plays. "If you put just another slug tight end in there, an immovable guy, you're not creating an advantage."
The reemergence of the two-tight-end alignment can be attributed to 1) the versatility of the faster, stronger athletes playing the position; 2) the proliferation of 3-4 defenses, which are prone to having linebackers cover tight ends; and 3) the rise of the Cover 2 scheme, which is susceptible to mid-range passes underneath the safeties -- the tight end's bread and butter. Parcells prefers using a second tight end over a third wideout because he wants a tight end going against a smaller safety or, better yet, a slower linebacker, rather than a wideout against a nickelback. Even in long-yardage situations Dallas and other teams are using an extra tight end to create mismatches. "Unless you have a third wide receiver who is just so superior to the other team's additional defensive back," says Parcells, "another good tight end gives you an advantage in the matchups."
The two-tight-end formation has been part of the Colts offense since coordinator Tom Moore and quarterback Peyton Manning arrived in 1998. Now, with a trio of versatile tight ends in Dallas Clark (6'3", 252), Ben Utecht (6'6", 251) and Bryan Fletcher (6'5", 230) Indy uses the formation almost exclusively. Says Colts president Bill Polian, "When you flex out the athletic tight end, you put the defense in a bind: Does it come with a nickelback, who can be overpowered or blocked [on a run], or does it leave a linebacker on the field, which is really a disadvantage [in coverage]?" In San Francisco the 49ers had a prize tight end in Eric Johnson (6'3", 252), who had a team-high 82 catches for 825 yards in 2004 but missed last season with a torn right plantar fascia, and this year they drafted the highly athletic Vernon Davis (6'3", 253) in April. But instead of pitting the two against each other in a competition for the starting job, offensive coordinator Norv Turner is using them in tandem on roughly half of San Francisco's snaps. The Patriots, having lost wideouts Deion Branch and David Givens, now feature two first-round tight ends in their passing game: Daniel Graham, a superb blocker who's dangerous in the open field, and Ben Watson, a solid blocker and receiver who has sub-4.5 speed. "Because they've got guys who've been in the system," says Witten, "New England is probably the team that executes [the two-tight-end offense] the best."
Of course, it helps all teams that colleges are developing tight ends that fit the new prototype. "The college game is so much more pass-oriented than it ever was," says Parcells. "I would say it's a trend, but it's also the only cars they're selling these days."
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It's cool how football evolves so much.
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True Rusty. I'm a huge basketball fan, but football is the greatest game, especially team game. Nothing else can compare IMO.
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someday the nfl will evolve enough to be ready for michael bishop.
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someday the nfl will evolve enough to be ready for michael bishop.
You got that right.
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True Rusty. I'm a huge basketball fan, but football is the greatest game, especially team game. Nothing else can compare IMO.
The only real way basketball has evolved is that refs quit calling fouls sometime in the last 20 years.
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the three point line and shot clock didn't evolve basketball?
shot clock was a good move, but the line is too close.
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the three point line and shot clock didn't evolve basketball?
shot clock was a good move, but the line is too close.
Last 20 years.
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Yeah, not to change this to a basketball topic, but they should move the college 3 pt line back to the International distance. Still a very makeable shot, but would cut down some on everyone who can chunk up something firing up 3's. Spreading it a little further would also open up the low post and mid range game a little. If nothing else, our players will have seen the international line some before they go the League, become All-Stars, then get punked in International play...but that's another forum topic as well.
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By the way , other board says Matt Boss made the lineup finally(good psyche move by prince). I think prince's depth chart wasn't permanent so that guys with talent play up to it. Echols now starting & so is Watts(injury for drop in chart ?).
Why don't we use an offensive lineman or Mastrud as a fullback blow some sh** up for the run game ?
We need to do something!
Excellent idea! Considering how rock-hard Mastrud's hands are, perhaps he could bludgeon the opposition with them as a blocker instead of a hapless, slow, caucasian reciever!
Top shelf kk.