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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: bigboiksu on December 15, 2008, 12:02:39 PM
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And this crap came from Charles Barkley don't throw us under the bus cause you alma mater made a fracked up decision on Chizik:
"My biggest problem with the black coaches is they're not getting jobs and they're getting [expletive] jobs when they are hired," Barkley said. "They're not getting good jobs. They're not getting jobs where they can be successful. That's why I wanted Turner to get the Auburn job. He could win consistently at Auburn. You can't win consistently at New Mexico. You can't win consistently at Kansas State. He could have won at Auburn."
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:lol:
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Hey, as long as someone's talking about us. Bad publicity is still publicity.
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He has always been and always will be my favorite basketball player of all time.
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I guess so but really charles barkley come on now he can say whatever he wants about college basketball but football.......
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CHARLES BARKLEY KNOWS WHO WE ARE! :ksu: :kstatriot:
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Does Barkley know who Snyder is? I think we won with consistency under him before but im no charles Barkley, :rolleyes: so who knows.
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Exactly how many schools can you win consistently?
4? 5?
USC
UT
OU
tOSU
:jerkoff:
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I like Charles.
But is he really saying that all black coaches should get nothing but elite or near elite head coaching jobs??
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I think this is plenty of evidence to add Charles to the KSU Super Fan Celebrity list 8-)
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I think this is plenty of evidence to add Charles to the KSU Super Fan Celebrity list 8-)
I think that pretty much goes without saying don't you?? :blindfold:
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I like Charles.
But is he really saying that all black coaches should get nothing but elite or near elite head coaching jobs??
The New Mexicos and Kansas States of the world are fine jobs for white dudes, but black dudes deserve elite jobs, at places where it's easy to win. This in no way resembles racism to me.
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Any college can win consistently if you have a coach that loves the program and he is good and committed... then you are going to be winners for awhile (i.e. Kstate under Snyder and now Texas Tech under Leach.) What he said sort of makes sense but really some coaches just don't fit with certain programs. Prince didn't fit with Kstate people just need to get over it.
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Imagine that...Barkley went to Auburn. Homer. :jerkoff:
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Being a Black man and a KState far I would agree in part with charles and all considering their is 4 coaches but I think the issue is that none of the mid majors are giving these guys and chance as well as black coaches gotta be willing to play the game like Gill has go to a mid major school have some success and then you will be on the radar of big time schools cause you have experience and your not just some ok coordinator with no HC experience (insert RON HERE)
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I wish teams gave more white guys scholarships :curse:
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Funny how no one in the media brings up that blacks have more than half of the jobs in the (edit)ncaa and nfl.
Instead we are hearing how evil whitey is being bad again.
The affirmative action parade will never end until people with backbones stand up to it.
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being a mexican (sapniard) and a K-Statriot (:kstatriot:), I have to ask where are all the latino HCs? MJ, perhaps you can shed some light on this. Have all of our homies given up on futbol de americano and gone back to roofing/construction :dunno: Jessie Tetuan sure didn't help out our cause any.
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Funny how no one in the media brings up that blacks have more than half of the jobs in the nfl.
Instead we are hearing how evil whitey is being bad again.
The affirmative action parade will never end until people with backbones stand up to it.
Fight the power. :crybaby:
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The comparisons to the NFL are ridiculous. It's two different games. For one, the NFL has done a much better job of preparing minority coaches for success. Has the NCAA ever had a program like the NFL's minority coaching internships? Look at all the coaches that got their start in the NFL through the minority programs- Dungy, Marvin Lewis, Lovie Smith, Ron Rivera, Mike Tomlin, etc.
The problem isn't that universities aren't doing enough, it's that the NCAA DIDN'T do enough 20 years ago to lay the groundwork like the NFL did.
And don't tell me that the "Rooney Rule" is the reason for the disparity between NFL and College. The "Rooney Rule" doesn't mean teams HAVE to hire minority coaches, only that they need to be considered. It's all about establishing programs to give young coaches opportunities as position coaches, then allowing them to grow. NCAA has been a failure at this.
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Didn't that one dude lose horribly at ND. That's a pretty elite job.
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what's your take on it j mart ?
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I wonder why he didn't suggest that AU hire Ron, since he's already had a BCS HC position and was fired only because he was at the wrong school? :banghead:
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charles barkley..........racist.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxuynicf9rI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxuynicf9rI)
channeling ron burgundy
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Why does everyone here meltdown when someone brings up race in relation to anything? :dunno:
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Funny how no one in the media brings up that blacks have more than half of the jobs in the nfl.
Instead we are hearing how evil whitey is being bad again.
The affirmative action parade will never end until people with backbones stand up to it.
Fight the power. :crybaby:
:lol:
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Why does everyone here meltdown when someone brings up race in relation to anything? :dunno:
Because there are a ton of K-State fans who are so retarded that they actually believe that white people are the one's who are discriminated against.
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My biggest problem with Barkley's comments is that he put it like we did a disservice to blacks. Ok, sorry Charlie, we shouldn't have hired Ron because there was a good chance he could fail and then everybody everywhere would think that black coaches will fail. I'm sure he didn't mean to, but he basically slapped k-state, and coach snyder for that matter, in the face.
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Dorrell couldn't win at UCLA. Willingham couldn't win at Notre Dame or Washington. Sometimes a guy just can't coach and it has nothing to do with where he is or what color he is. Great coaches will be successful wherever they are. It sounds to me like Barkley is making excuses for the ones that fail at harder places to win but at the same time ignoring the ones that fail at very good jobs. Black coaches, like white, will weed themselves out. Prince, Willingham, Dorrell, Croom, etc., weeded themselves back to easier courses where some should have started to begin with.
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More to the point of Sir Chuck's comment...
Since 1993-
Auburn- 134-60-1 (69% winning percentage)
Kansas State- 135-62-1 (68% winning percentage)
:jerkoff:
Has anyone ever been paid so well to talk out their @ss as Sir Chuck?
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Dorrell couldn't win at UCLA. Willingham couldn't win at Notre Dame or Washington. Sometimes a guy just can't coach and it has nothing to do with where he is or what color he is. Great coaches will be successful wherever they are. It sounds to me like Barkley is making excuses for the ones that fail at harder places to win but at the same time ignoring the ones that fail at very good jobs. Black coaches, like white, will weed themselves out. Prince, Willingham, Dorrell, Croom, etc., weeded themselves back to easier courses where some should have started to begin with.
This is exactly my point about the NFL. The NFL has done WAY more to prepare minority coaches for success. The NCAA just basically throws all the coaches into the same meat-grinder.
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The best part of this crap thread was when J-Mart absolutely owned opcat without even trying.
:lol:
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The truth is that race is always going to be an issue. It is more of an issue to black people than it is to white. See this years presidential election for an example (over 95% of black people voted for Obama and so did almost 50% of the white people).
It's not the jobs that the coaches are getting, it is the performance on the job. Every black K-Stater I talked with agreed with me that it was time for Ron to go. Prince was not ready for a BCS job as his first head coaching job. John Blake wasn't ready for OU. Dorrell wasn't ready for UCLA. Willingham had success at Stanford but not Notre Dame and definitely not Washington. Dennis Green was successful at Stanford also. Randy Shannon is getting his shot at Miami. that is looking pretty good so far.
Turner Gill has done a fantastic job at Buffalo and may be ready for a BCS job. I think he should stay where he is another year and then see what top BCS jobs open up. Notre Dame might be open next year. I don't think he should take a job at a place like Mississippi State or a Syracuse. Of course I would say the exact same thing about a hot white coaching prospect (Venables).
I think coaches such as Prince, Blake, and Dorrel might have met with more success had they taken the route Turner Gill has taken and started their head coaching careers at a Buffalo, or a Ball State, or much like every hot basketball coach at Tulsa. This may be the reason that Venables has been passed over for so long also.
That being said...Auburn should have taken a harder look at Gill b/c I think that could have been a good fit.
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Dorrell couldn't win at UCLA. Willingham couldn't win at Notre Dame or Washington. Sometimes a guy just can't coach and it has nothing to do with where he is or what color he is. Great coaches will be successful wherever they are. It sounds to me like Barkley is making excuses for the ones that fail at harder places to win but at the same time ignoring the ones that fail at very good jobs. Black coaches, like white, will weed themselves out. Prince, Willingham, Dorrell, Croom, etc., weeded themselves back to easier courses where some should have started to begin with.
Great points. Actually, Barkley is as wrong as he can be. New Mexico, Buffalo -- maybe K-State, but any major conference program is borderline, even Iowa State -- are the schools where any coach - black or white - should hone their coaching chops. Willingham had already won at Stanford. I'm not convinced he wouldn't have won at ND, if given a couple more years. Not sure what happened in WU, but that whole state is having sports trouble.
Ron Prince was simply not ready to be a head coach, especially in a major conference. It is up to schools to hire qualified coaches, but it also up to the coaches to take the right jobs. Accepting a head coaching position just to be a head coach is probably not going to work out - and that is what is happening.
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Funny how no one in the media brings up that blacks have more than half of the jobs in the nfl.
Instead we are hearing how evil whitey is being bad again.
The affirmative action parade will never end until people with backbones stand up to it.
actually, what people in the media fail to bring up is the lack of black coordinators. Look around the Big 12....who has a black coordinator...Shawn Watson at NU...O'Neil at TT.....who else am I missing? I think that might be it. there's 24 positions in the big 12...That's 1/12.....or 8%.
the coaches aren't really helping a brutha out.
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Ordinarily i hate the race card, but in this particular case i would agree with him. Is Chezik really more qualified for than Gil?
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Ordinarily i hate the race card, but in this particular case i would agree with him. Is Chezik really more qualified for than Gil?
Turner Gil is winning. The more apt comparison is Chizik vs. Ron Prince. The only thing Chizik has going for him is that he coached on two teams that went undefeated or won the national title (Auburn and Texas).
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The comparisons to the NFL are ridiculous. It's two different games. For one, the NFL has done a much better job of preparing minority coaches for success. Has the NCAA ever had a program like the NFL's minority coaching internships? Look at all the coaches that got their start in the NFL through the minority programs- Dungy, Marvin Lewis, Lovie Smith, Ron Rivera, Mike Tomlin, etc.
The problem isn't that universities aren't doing enough, it's that the NCAA DIDN'T do enough 20 years ago to lay the groundwork like the NFL did.
And don't tell me that the "Rooney Rule" is the reason for the disparity between NFL and College. The "Rooney Rule" doesn't mean teams HAVE to hire minority coaches, only that they need to be considered. It's all about establishing programs to give young coaches opportunities as position coaches, then allowing them to grow. NCAA has been a failure at this.
you don't get it. why should the ncaa have some minority program when MOST of the players are black and MOST of the students are white or another race other than black. The best should ALWAYS get the job. Ask yourself why blacks are CRAP coaches. Why do they need special programs? Looks retardish to me. Someone should tell them to F_CK OFF. If you don't like it then don't watch or play in the ncaa or nfl. Go form your own black schools with black coaches.
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charles barkley..........racist.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxuynicf9rI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxuynicf9rI)
channeling ron burgundy
has white wife. :scared:
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The comparisons to the NFL are ridiculous. It's two different games. For one, the NFL has done a much better job of preparing minority coaches for success. Has the NCAA ever had a program like the NFL's minority coaching internships? Look at all the coaches that got their start in the NFL through the minority programs- Dungy, Marvin Lewis, Lovie Smith, Ron Rivera, Mike Tomlin, etc.
The problem isn't that universities aren't doing enough, it's that the NCAA DIDN'T do enough 20 years ago to lay the groundwork like the NFL did.
And don't tell me that the "Rooney Rule" is the reason for the disparity between NFL and College. The "Rooney Rule" doesn't mean teams HAVE to hire minority coaches, only that they need to be considered. It's all about establishing programs to give young coaches opportunities as position coaches, then allowing them to grow. NCAA has been a failure at this.
you don't get it. why should the ncaa have some minority program when MOST of the players are black and MOST of the students are white or another race other than black. The best should ALWAYS get the job. Ask yourself why blacks are CRAP coaches. Why do they need special programs? Looks retardish to me. Someone should tell them to F_CK OFF. If you don't like it then don't watch or play in the ncaa or nfl. Go form your own black schools with black coaches.
The more you post, the more I'm sure that you are just looking to get a reaction out of people. Nobody can be that racist and figure out how to run a computer.
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The comparisons to the NFL are ridiculous. It's two different games. For one, the NFL has done a much better job of preparing minority coaches for success. Has the NCAA ever had a program like the NFL's minority coaching internships? Look at all the coaches that got their start in the NFL through the minority programs- Dungy, Marvin Lewis, Lovie Smith, Ron Rivera, Mike Tomlin, etc.
The problem isn't that universities aren't doing enough, it's that the NCAA DIDN'T do enough 20 years ago to lay the groundwork like the NFL did.
And don't tell me that the "Rooney Rule" is the reason for the disparity between NFL and College. The "Rooney Rule" doesn't mean teams HAVE to hire minority coaches, only that they need to be considered. It's all about establishing programs to give young coaches opportunities as position coaches, then allowing them to grow. NCAA has been a failure at this.
you don't get it. why should the ncaa have some minority program when MOST of the players are black and MOST of the students are white or another race other than black. The best should ALWAYS get the job. Ask yourself why blacks are CRAP coaches. Why do they need special programs? Looks retardish to me. Someone should tell them to F_CK OFF. If you don't like it then don't watch or play in the ncaa or nfl. Go form your own black schools with black coaches.
The more you post, the more I'm sure that you are just looking to get a reaction out of people. Nobody can be that racist and figure out how to run a computer.
You people = :'( :crybaby:
you'll never understand a free society. Keep trying. someday you'll get it.
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The comparisons to the NFL are ridiculous. It's two different games. For one, the NFL has done a much better job of preparing minority coaches for success. Has the NCAA ever had a program like the NFL's minority coaching internships? Look at all the coaches that got their start in the NFL through the minority programs- Dungy, Marvin Lewis, Lovie Smith, Ron Rivera, Mike Tomlin, etc.
The problem isn't that universities aren't doing enough, it's that the NCAA DIDN'T do enough 20 years ago to lay the groundwork like the NFL did.
And don't tell me that the "Rooney Rule" is the reason for the disparity between NFL and College. The "Rooney Rule" doesn't mean teams HAVE to hire minority coaches, only that they need to be considered. It's all about establishing programs to give young coaches opportunities as position coaches, then allowing them to grow. NCAA has been a failure at this.
you don't get it. why should the ncaa have some minority program when MOST of the players are black and MOST of the students are white or another race other than black. The best should ALWAYS get the job. Ask yourself why blacks are CRAP coaches. Why do they need special programs? Looks retardish to me. Someone should tell them to F_CK OFF. If you don't like it then don't watch or play in the ncaa or nfl. Go form your own black schools with black coaches.
Just sayin' it is what it is. The NFL established minority programs. NCAA did not. Here are the results 20-odd years later. Not arguing what is right or wrong- just pointing out the results. Like I said, the NFL and CFB are two different beasts.
I am all in favor of schools hiring the best candidate, and I believe that by-and-large, that is what is happening. I really don't think there is a lot of racism involved with coaching hires in college. Catzacker is on the right track here, and that's what I'm saying. The NFL did a much better job of creating new opportunities for minorities, so now the NFL has a larger/more qualified pool of minority coordinators. Coordinator=future head coach.
Universities are choosing the best coach for the job from the pool of available and qualified candidates- same for the NFL. The difference is that the available pool for NFL is more diverse because of the additional minority efforts.
I'd love to hear TP's thoughts.
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Ordinarily i hate the race card, but in this particular case i would agree with him. Is Chezik really more qualified for than Gil?
This is typical of people who don't understand the process. Turner Gill is a jesus freak and forces his team to pray.
That could be part of the decision and his 8-5 record isn't great. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2084. The win over ballst. was fluky. Alot of To's by ballst. They lose the game without them. Some of the To's happened near the redzone for Ballst too. Play that game over 5 game series then Ball ST wins most of them.
Ball St. assistant probably a better hire.
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I don't know if Sir Charles knows football but he knows food :billypopcorn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL6xmjbl-HY
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Ordinarily i hate the race card, but in this particular case i would agree with him. Is Chezik really more qualified for than Gil?
This is typical of people who don't understand the process. Turner Gill is a jesus freak and forces his team to pray.
That could be part of the decision and his 8-5 record isn't great. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/clubhouse?teamId=2084. The win over ballst. was fluky. Alot of To's by ballst. They lose the game without them. Some of the To's happened near the redzone for Ballst too. Play that game over 5 game series then Ball ST wins most of them.
Ball St. assistant probably a better hire.
Stan Parrish?
Also, if we want equality then 12% of coaches should be black, 75% should be white etc. etc.
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I wish teams gave more white guys scholarships :curse:
We had those for about 200 years...
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Why does everyone here meltdown when someone brings up race in relation to anything? :dunno:
Because there are a ton of K-State fans who are so retarded that they actually believe that white people are the one's who are discriminated against.
Ha...could not have said it better myself.
:popcorn:
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The comparisons to the NFL are ridiculous. It's two different games. For one, the NFL has done a much better job of preparing minority coaches for success. Has the NCAA ever had a program like the NFL's minority coaching internships? Look at all the coaches that got their start in the NFL through the minority programs- Dungy, Marvin Lewis, Lovie Smith, Ron Rivera, Mike Tomlin, etc.
The problem isn't that universities aren't doing enough, it's that the NCAA DIDN'T do enough 20 years ago to lay the groundwork like the NFL did.
And don't tell me that the "Rooney Rule" is the reason for the disparity between NFL and College. The "Rooney Rule" doesn't mean teams HAVE to hire minority coaches, only that they need to be considered. It's all about establishing programs to give young coaches opportunities as position coaches, then allowing them to grow. NCAA has been a failure at this.
you don't get it. why should the ncaa have some minority program when MOST of the players are black and MOST of the students are white or another race other than black. The best should ALWAYS get the job. Ask yourself why blacks are CRAP coaches. Why do they need special programs? Looks retardish to me. Someone should tell them to F_CK OFF. If you don't like it then don't watch or play in the ncaa or nfl. Go form your own black schools with black coaches.
The more you post, the more I'm sure that you are just looking to get a reaction out of people. Nobody can be that racist and figure out how to run a computer.
You people = :'( :crybaby:
you'll never understand a free society. Keep trying. someday you'll get it.
Where is your utopia and how can I get there?
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Why does everyone here meltdown when someone brings up race in relation to anything? :dunno:
Because there are a ton of K-State fans who are so retarded that they actually believe that white people are the one's who are discriminated against.
Ha...could not have said it better myself.
:popcorn:
Having so many black players play on every football team is discrimination against whites.
Most Black coaches are discriminated against because they SUCK and DON'T deserve the job.
Can't wait for the barack antiracism program to force schools to hire more Ron Princes! Good times coming. :thumbsup:
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I wish teams gave more white guys scholarships :curse:
We had those for about 200 years...
I was being sarcastic FWIW
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says Tunner Gill got hosed out of Auburn job because hes black...then goes on to say he could of won at Auburn and He had no chance to win a Kansas State.... :blahblah: :blahblah: :sleep:
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this thread is turrible you knuckleheads
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Isn't Obama like 1/2 white, 1/2 black ???
Not really a "black" president IMO
:dunno: why the other half of his ethnicity gets left off
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damnit barkely. why did you have to say that? does he not realize he's hurting people's feelings when he says stuff like that?
you can win here. we have nbaf now, which should help.
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With mutant sized, "Space Jam" type players :dunno:
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This is ridiculous. Charles is not worth discussing.
Just listen to these gems:
"Politics is too corrupt" - Charles "The Lieutenant of Lexicon" Barkley
"If god's so good, how come he didn't give you a jump shot?" - Charles "The Sultan of Similes" Barkley
"If somebody hits you with an object you should beat the hell out of them." - Charles "The Magistrate of Metaphors" Barkley
"I don't know what that gas is made of." - Charles "The Admiral of Adjectives" Barkley
"I think the team that wins Game 5 will win the series; unless we lose Game 5." - Charles "The Prince of Palindromes" Barkley
Charles said the goal of the '92 Olympic Dream Team playing Panama in the Tournament of the Americas was: "To get the Canal back."
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OT who remembers this game (http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/amg/games/drg000/g059/g05988hmj0h.jpg)
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Didn't that one dude lose horribly at ND. That's a pretty elite job.
Just like the fat white guy is now. But he got the 10 year extension at 4mm per while that "one dude" got gassed (used the term for the Hitler lovers on this board). ND has become a coaching casket. No longer elite.
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Being a Black man and a KState far I would agree in part with charles and all considering their is 4 coaches but I think the issue is that none of the mid majors are giving these guys and chance as well as black coaches gotta be willing to play the game like Gill has go to a mid major school have some success and then you will be on the radar of big time schools cause you have experience and your not just some ok coordinator with no HC experience (insert RON HERE)
Damn, that is hard to read. In the future, please use a coma and periods when needed. It will help greatly, and you won't sound like a 2nd grader. Thanks in advance. No offense. :blindfold:
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:nono: FU Charles Barkley and anyone else who tries to bring the race card into play after a coach is fired. RP was fired because he sucked ass, was an arrogant prick, and had lost respect from players, fans, coaches, local HS coaches.....everywhere. It had nothing to do with race and everything to do with the direction the program was heading. If he was halfway decent, was able to bring in and keep quality assistants, and was able to produce a team that constistently improved (any decent coach) he would still be here. He was in way over his head and his ego was so big he couldn't even see it. If a black coach is successful...he keeps his job. Period. If any coach is successful he keeps his job. Period. No race issue at all...it's about doing the job you are hired to do, and achieving the desired results.
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:nono: FU Charles Barkley and anyone else who tries to bring the race card into play after a coach is fired. RP was fired because he sucked ass, was an arrogant prick, and had lost respect from players, fans, coaches, local HS coaches.....everywhere. It had nothing to do with race and everything to do with the direction the program was heading. If he was halfway decent, was able to bring in and keep quality assistants, and was able to produce a team that constistently improved (any decent coach) he would still be here. He was in way over his head and his ego was so big he couldn't even see it. If a black coach is successful...he keeps his job. Period. If any coach is successful he keeps his job. Period. No race issue at all...it's about doing the job you are hired to do, and achieving the desired results.
Ron lost his job because he lost those donor dollars...
Now why that is, I do not know for sure, but can speculate: high expectations at KSU following the Godfather's tenure, the belief that Ron may never win at the level Bill did, or the potentially personal feelings of discomfort of donors with Ron.
Either way the man could not keep a coaching staff together for even two seasons. Not good when you are a greenhorn like Ron. This is the major reason donor's lost faith and the commonly held belief that he could not get us back to the big time developed.
The policy that got Ron the interview - a good thing no doubt. The decision to hire him - not such a good idea.
The other major issue is that minority coaches are not around as coordinator's, positions where they could learn to be a good head coach.
:eyeseeyou:
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:nono: FU Charles Barkley and anyone else who tries to bring the race card into play after a coach is fired. RP was fired because he sucked ass, was an arrogant prick, and had lost respect from players, fans, coaches, local HS coaches.....everywhere. It had nothing to do with race and everything to do with the direction the program was heading. If he was halfway decent, was able to bring in and keep quality assistants, and was able to produce a team that constistently improved (any decent coach) he would still be here. He was in way over his head and his ego was so big he couldn't even see it. If a black coach is successful...he keeps his job. Period. If any coach is successful he keeps his job. Period. No race issue at all...it's about doing the job you are hired to do, and achieving the desired results.
Ron lost his job because he lost those donor dollars... Because he's a arrogant prick
Now why that is, I do not know for sure, but can speculate: high expectations at KSU following the Godfather's tenure, the belief that Ron may never win at the level Bill did, or the potentially personal feelings of discomfort of donors with Ron.
Either way the man could not keep a coaching staff together for even two seasons. Because he's a arrogant prick Not good when you are a greenhorn like Ron. This is the major reason donor's lost faith and the commonly held belief that he could not get us back to the big time developed.
The policy that got Ron the interview - a good thing no doubt. The decision to hire him - not such a good idea.
The other major issue is that minority coaches are not around as coordinator's, positions where they could learn to be a good head coach. He was a coordinator at Virginia. Sure didnt seem to help him much.
:eyeseeyou:
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How many years as the O-Coord. at UVA?
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“My biggest problem with the black coaches is they’re not getting jobs and they’re getting (expletive) jobs when they are hired,” Barkley said. “They’re not getting good jobs. They’re not getting jobs where they can be successful. That’s why I wanted Turner to get the Auburn job. He could win consistently at Auburn. You can’t win consistently at New Mexico. You can’t win consistently at Kansas State. He could have won at Auburn.”
Just see my letter to "First Take" for my response to this
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Best Post of the Year?
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That being said...Auburn should have taken a harder look at Gill b/c I think that could have been a good fit.
No, it couldn't have been a good fit. Because, well, Auburn fans are racist.
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Have you ever read a post on this board that wasn't yours? Ever?
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“My biggest problem with the black coaches is they’re not getting jobs and they’re getting (expletive) jobs when they are hired,” Barkley said. “They’re not getting good jobs. They’re not getting jobs where they can be successful. That’s why I wanted Turner to get the Auburn job. He could win consistently at Auburn. You can’t win consistently at New Mexico. You can’t win consistently at Kansas State. He could have won at Auburn.”
Just see my letter to "First Take" for my response to this
Yeah. Someone posted his comments yesterday. You would think that CB would be thinking about calling 1-800 bets off or working on his crappy golf swing instead of running his fat mouth about $hit.
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srsly 0506?
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Best Post of the Year?
You're going to have to be more specific. I've had so many.
:blush:
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I love Catsfan20052006. He's got "the stuff."
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I love Catsfan20052006. He's got "the stuff."
I don't know whether to be :blush: or :ohno:
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Just another washed up athlete who never won the big prize, trying desperately to get back in the spot light... this time without the nutters.
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If anyone knows how to contact him please advise
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What if Grambling hired a white head coach :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Best Post of the Year?
He's got my vote! This is quality stuff, keep it up cf0506!
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What if Grambling hired a white head coach :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
Norfolk St. and Delaware St. both have had white coaches.
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interesting that "jmlynch" is a cf05-06 fan.
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interesting that "jmlynch" is a cf05-06 fan.
hmmmm... true. :runaway:
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I think that I speak for everyone when I say "Thanks, 0506! Without your help, we never would have heard about this."
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How about win at OU.
Barkley = dumb as rocks.
Still waiting on chickensh** media to call him out. How about someone in our local press. This is your chance to get some mainstream pub. Call him for what he is.
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I love, love, love 0506 fwiw. The board would be much less entertaining w/out him. 99% of posters (me included) could go away and no one would notice. Don't let these guys get ya down 0506. :eyeseeyou:
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That's for the support. It's not easy to try to keep this place going in a productive manner. I was a tad behind yesterday, I didn't have the best day, so if I was behind on my information that's why. Doesn't make it right.....But that's why.
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Chuck is 100% right on this.
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100% right on what?
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That's for the support. It's not easy to try to keep this place going in a productive manner. I was a tad behind yesterday, I didn't have the best day, so if I was behind on my information that's why. Doesn't make it right.....But that's why.
yeah, keep up the good work buddy, thanks for the updates. They are appreciated.
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That's for the support. It's not easy to try to keep this place going in a productive manner. I was a tad behind yesterday, I didn't have the best day, so if I was behind on my information that's why. Doesn't make it right.....But that's why.
No need to apoligize or explain yourself to these tards, just keep on truckin on bro :Driving:
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Chuck is 100% right on this.
50% at best. Probably should have been Gill, but it seems to me that the reason Chizik was hired was that he used to coach there and was bff's with the ad.
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Don't forget the south likes southern people.
Anti-North ,Anti-Union discrimination?
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interesting that "jmlynch" is a cf05-06 fan.
hmmmm... true. :runaway:
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interesting that "jmlynch" is a cf05-06 fan.
What exactly are you getting at here?
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Name a college team that has consistently kicked some fracking arse with a minority hire?
NAME ONE!!
Oh okay, Tyrone had that one good year with Notre Dame back in 2002, I think. Other than that, they've led their teams into the depths of futile mediocrity.
Barkley has no brain. Never did.
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Name a college team that has consistently kicked some fracking arse with a minority hire?
NAME ONE!!
Oh okay, Tyrone had that one good year with Notre Dame back in 2002, I think. Other than that, they've led their teams into the depths of futile mediocrity.
Barkley has no brain. Never did.
On average how many coaches period have "consistently kicked some fracking arse" as you so retardedly put it? Then take that number divided by the total number of white coaches that have every coached in Division 1 college football. Now, do the same with minority coaches. Then get your racist retarded ass off of my message board.
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Name a college team that has consistently kicked some fracking arse with a minority hire?
NAME ONE!!
Oh okay, Tyrone had that one good year with Notre Dame back in 2002, I think. Other than that, they've led their teams into the depths of futile mediocrity.
Barkley has no brain. Never did.
On average how many coaches period have "consistently kicked some fracking arse" as you so retardedly put it? Then take that number divided by the total number of white coaches that have every coached in Division 1 college football. Now, do the same with minority coaches. Then get your racist retarded ass off of my message board.
Name one. You can't. and you can't say they haven't been given opportunities. And what is WORSE...is that when you do hire a Ron Prince, or a Tyronce Willingham, or Croom...that you will inevitably be SCORNED and ridiculed if the day comes when you are forced to fire them for poor on the field performance. Just look at Barkley calling us out...AFTER WE TOOK A HUGE CHANCE ON RON......and it blew up in our faces.
Anway,
My calculator is saying .0118767 after your math quiz .... I must have missed a decimal. :rolleyes:
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Hey Stevedave know it all douche.
I think Charles Barkley is extremely racist. :D
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Name a college team that has consistently kicked some fracking arse with a minority hire?
NAME ONE!!
Oh okay, Tyrone had that one good year with Notre Dame back in 2002, I think. Other than that, they've led their teams into the depths of futile mediocrity.
Barkley has no brain. Never did.
On average how many coaches period have "consistently kicked some fracking arse" as you so retardedly put it? Then take that number divided by the total number of white coaches that have every coached in Division 1 college football. Now, do the same with minority coaches. Then get your racist retarded ass off of my message board.
Name one. You can't. and you can't say they haven't been given opportunities. And what is WORSE...is that when you do hire a Ron Prince, or a Tyronce Willingham, or Croom...that you will inevitably be SCORNED and ridiculed if the day comes when you are forced to fire them for poor on the field performance. Just look at Barkley calling us out...AFTER WE TOOK A HUGE CHANCE ON RON......and it blew up in our faces.
Anway,
My calculator is saying .0118767 after your math quiz .... I must have missed a decimal. :rolleyes:
Turner Gill. Now, I'm no math wiz, but with1 the percentage is better than that garbage white d00d percentage.
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barkely calling us out was extremely mean. I hope to confront him if I see him @ an airport.
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Hey Stevedave know it all douche.
I think Charles Barkley is extremely racist. :D
Hey, all white doodz who think race is not an issue and Barkley is playing the race card. Are other white SEC coaches racists against white people too?
http://deadspin.com/5110639/was-turner-gill-denied-the-auburn-job-because-of-his-white-wife
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barkely calling us out was extremely mean. I hope to confront him if I see him @ an airport.
in a real airport, or internet airport?
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Name a college team that has consistently kicked some fracking arse with a minority hire?
NAME ONE!!
Oh okay, Tyrone had that one good year with Notre Dame back in 2002, I think. Other than that, they've led their teams into the depths of futile mediocrity.
Barkley has no brain. Never did.
On average how many coaches period have "consistently kicked some fracking arse" as you so retardedly put it? Then take that number divided by the total number of white coaches that have every coached in Division 1 college football. Now, do the same with minority coaches. Then get your racist retarded ass off of my message board.
:lol:
How many jobs and scholarships do blacks have in the NFL and Ncaa. A lot.
Black coaches suck. FACT. :blank:
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Hey Stevedave know it all douche.
I think Charles Barkley is extremely racist. :D
Hey, all white doodz who think race is not an issue and Barkley is playing the race card. Are other white SEC coaches racists against white people too?
http://deadspin.com/5110639/was-turner-gill-denied-the-auburn-job-because-of-his-white-wife
Freshman wideout Darius Darks (shown here taking a strong stand against "bitchassness")
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/2008/12/custom_1229375266279_6a2f2578926befb8820d89739b4045c9_darks_01.jpg)
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Hey Stevedave know it all douche.
I think Charles Barkley is extremely racist. :D
Hey, all white doodz who think race is not an issue and Barkley is playing the race card. Are other white SEC coaches racists against white people too?
http://deadspin.com/5110639/was-turner-gill-denied-the-auburn-job-because-of-his-white-wife
Atleast the racism business is strong for Espn and Deadspin. Racism articles make $$$ :lol:
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Hey Stevedave know it all douche.
I think Charles Barkley is extremely racist. :D
Hey, all white doodz who think race is not an issue and Barkley is playing the race card. Are other white SEC coaches racists against white people too?
http://deadspin.com/5110639/was-turner-gill-denied-the-auburn-job-because-of-his-white-wife
Honetly I don't give a crap about Auburn or the SEC. It just pisses me off when they try to say K-State shouldn't have fired Ron Prince. And/or stating that the firing was racially motivated. That and Barkley Labelling K-State a "Place you Can't Win". Those things piss me off.
Don't mess with the K-State. :kstatriot:
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Name a college team that has consistently kicked some fracking arse with a minority hire?
NAME ONE!!
Oh okay, Tyrone had that one good year with Notre Dame back in 2002, I think. Other than that, they've led their teams into the depths of futile mediocrity.
Barkley has no brain. Never did.
On average how many coaches period have "consistently kicked some fracking arse" as you so retardedly put it? Then take that number divided by the total number of white coaches that have every coached in Division 1 college football. Now, do the same with minority coaches. Then get your racist retarded ass off of my message board.
:lol:
How many jobs and scholarships do blacks have in the NFL and Ncaa. A lot.
Black coaches suck. FACT. :blank:
OMFG, the double team of opcat and bookcat...two of the most well respected and intelligent posters on this or any message board :ohno:
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Name a college team that has consistently kicked some fracking arse with a minority hire?
NAME ONE!!
Oh okay, Tyrone had that one good year with Notre Dame back in 2002, I think. Other than that, they've led their teams into the depths of futile mediocrity.
Barkley has no brain. Never did.
On average how many coaches period have "consistently kicked some fracking arse" as you so retardedly put it? Then take that number divided by the total number of white coaches that have every coached in Division 1 college football. Now, do the same with minority coaches. Then get your racist retarded ass off of my message board.
:lol:
How many jobs and scholarships do blacks have in the NFL and Ncaa. A lot.
Black coaches suck. FACT. :blank:
OMFG, the double team of opcat and bookcat...two of the most well respected and intelligent posters on this or any message board :ohno:
SHAKE! AND BAKE!
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Hey Stevedave know it all douche.
I think Charles Barkley is extremely racist. :D
Hey, all white doodz who think race is not an issue and Barkley is playing the race card. Are other white SEC coaches racists against white people too?
http://deadspin.com/5110639/was-turner-gill-denied-the-auburn-job-because-of-his-white-wife
Freshman wideout Darius Darks (shown here taking a strong stand against "bitchassness")
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/2008/12/custom_1229375266279_6a2f2578926befb8820d89739b4045c9_darks_01.jpg)
If I remember correctly, D. Darks is also the guy who had a video on Facebook after Chizik left in which he donned a Michigan State jersey and had some "not nice" things to say about Mr. Chizik.
:users:
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Hey Stevedave know it all douche.
I think Charles Barkley is extremely racist. :D
Hey, all white doodz who think race is not an issue and Barkley is playing the race card. Are other white SEC coaches racists against white people too?
http://deadspin.com/5110639/was-turner-gill-denied-the-auburn-job-because-of-his-white-wife
Honetly I don't give a crap about Auburn or the SEC. It just pisses me off when they try to say K-State shouldn't have fired Ron Prince. And/or stating that the firing was racially motivated. That and Barkley Labelling K-State a "Place you Can't Win". Those things piss me off.
Don't mess with the K-State. :kstatriot:
That is really all I had a problem with...
Mr. Barkley, meet Mr. Snyder.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AkmoGcI9e3r.bSGTu6c4mpo5nYcB?slug=ap-charlesbarkley-arrest&prov=ap&type=lgns
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See what you get Chuck, Jesus is a K-Statriot....
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There's no way in hell that I'm reading thid thread to find out, but did any of you crybabies figure out that Barkley's comments really had nothing at all to do with KSU firing Prince?
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There's no way in hell that I'm reading thid thread to find out, but did any of you crybabies figure out that Barkley's comments really had nothing at all to do with KSU firing Prince?
HA, with this crowd? They are salivating at the though of someone, somewhere, saying anything about Ron Prince and K-State. Reading comprehension goes out the window when you're a reactionary.
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There's no way in hell that I'm reading thid thread to find out, but did any of you crybabies figure out that Barkley's comments really had nothing at all to do with KSU firing Prince?
HA, with this crowd? They are salivating at the though of someone, somewhere, saying anything about Ron Prince and K-State. Reading comprehension goes out the window when you're a reactionary.
In all fairness, a lot of us are just as big of drunks as Barkley.
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At least Barkley is honest, I'll give him that...........
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2009/01/01/baldwin.barkley.arrest.folo.cnn