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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: Saulbadguy on September 23, 2006, 06:28:35 PM
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5:19 left in the 1st quarter
USF 97 yards of Offense
ku 19
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they &@#%ing blew the first drive. :mad:
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Does anyone else find it amusing Mangino has a grad student following him around carrying his headset cords at all time?
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TOTAL NET YARDS USF 296 ku 382
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TOTAL NET YARDS USF 296 ku 382
Yet, despite that.. you still won.
Thank Toledo for my time.
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TOTAL NET YARDS USF 296 ku 382
Yet, despite that.. you still won.
Thank Toledo for my time.
Toledo was a road game. Kstate wouldn't know what that means yet since you haven't left Manhattan.
And USF is a better opponent than any that Ksu has defeated.
How did your bout with Louisville's second string go?
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watching that ku game, they are no different from the TA era.
I feel bad for the diehard ku football fans in some way, they will NEVER get to expierence what we had for 10-12 years. Their "good" season for ku will be similar to their 2005 campaign.
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And that's not really a bash at ku, just a statement as to how hard it is to hit that next level. 11 wins 6/7 years. Holy &@#%.
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watching that ku game, they are no different from the TA era.
Keep trying.
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watching that ku game, they are no different from the TA era.
Keep trying.
when will ku realize that they aren't good and won't get to a bowl this season?? you guys barely beat LA Monroe, lose to Toledo, and barely beat USF (you would have lost if it wasn't for some sh1tty officiating). You guys are getting worse every week and you better not start KM in Lincoln because he will get killed if you do. ku won't get to a bowl game this year and still have the easiest schedule in the conference.
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watching that ku game, they are no different from the TA era.
Keep trying.
when will ku realize that they aren't good and won't get to a bowl this season?? you guys barely beat LA Monroe, lose to Toledo, and barely beat USF (you would have lost if it wasn't for some sh1tty officiating). You guys are getting worse every week and you better not start KM in Lincoln because he will get killed if you do. ku won't get to a bowl game this year and still have the easiest schedule in the conference.
Is that you Offutt?
Btw, USF > Anything you've beaten so far. Our only loss is a road game. Ksu hasn't even left Manhattan after four games.
And ku got called for more penalties than USF did.
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watching that ku game, they are no different from the TA era.
Keep trying.
when will ku realize that they aren't good and won't get to a bowl this season?? you guys barely beat LA Monroe, lose to Toledo, and barely beat USF (you would have lost if it wasn't for some sh1tty officiating). You guys are getting worse every week and you better not start KM in Lincoln because he will get killed if you do. ku won't get to a bowl game this year and still have the easiest schedule in the conference.
Is that you Offutt?
Btw, USF > Anything you've beaten so far. Our only loss is a road game. Ksu hasn't even left Manhattan after four games.
And ku got called for more penalties than USF did.
Marshall and USF would definitely be a close game. ku and K-State will be a blow out with K-State coming out on top. K-State would have beaten Louisville if we had a halfway decent offense. And seeing on how we have obviously improved gradually every single game, we will defintely be ready by the time we play you guys in Lawrence. ku however is getting worses as they go. They start out with a somewhat impressive game over NWestern St. then they downgrade to a very very close game with LA Monroe. Then you guys get beat by Toledo because your QB was the reason for five turnovers and your OC is the worst playcaller I have ever seen. Now you guys squeak one out past USF who isn't as good as they have been in the past and have beat some really crappy opponents to be 3-0 going into that game. And they lost the game for themselves, you guys didn't win it, not to mention the officiating was awful and anybody that was completely biased would agree with me. But yeah ku will defintely beat K-State this year :rolleyes: GMAFB
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ku and K-State will be a blow out with K-State coming out on top.
completely biased
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ku and K-State will be a blow out with K-State coming out on top.
completely biased
Goldy what aspect of ku's game is remotely positive? Atleast K-State has its defense and special teams. What does ku have? Cornish? It is incredibly easy to shut down a one dimensional offense, see ku in Toledo game.
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ku and K-State will be a blow out with K-State coming out on top.
completely biased
Goldy what aspect of ku's game is remotely positive? Atleast K-State has its defense and special teams. What does ku have? Cornish? It is incredibly easy to shut down a one dimensional offense, see ku in Toledo game.
Toledo didn't shut us down. Our turnovers cost us that game. Hard to win when you turn the ball over five times.
TOTAL NET YARDS ku 419 Toledo 254
Meier had 243 yards. Cornish is not all we have.
ku's defense is impressive. We held Toledo to no first downs in the second half. They came up numerous times to stop USF tonight. Talib was gone for the first two games and since he has been back, I've been confident in our defense. They're inexperienced but the potential is incredible and satisfactory right now.
Our offense under Meier will improve when Meier cuts down on the interceptions and our playcalling hopefully stops putting him in easy turnover positions. The Toledo game was disgusting because numerous times we could have run Cornish instead of throwing with Meier and it would have been wise to do so. They knew Meier was hurt in the final overtime in the Toledo game and yet they still threw the ball. Wtf? In a year or two this offense under Meier is going to be damn awesome imo. I don't expect perfection while he's a freshman.
Special teams is average. No big mistakes, no real big plays.
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ku and K-State will be a blow out with K-State coming out on top.
completely biased
Goldy what aspect of ku's game is remotely positive? Atleast K-State has its defense and special teams. What does ku have? Cornish? It is incredibly easy to shut down a one dimensional offense, see ku in Toledo game.
Toledo didn't shut us down. Our turnovers cost us that game. Hard to win when you turn the ball over five times.
TOTAL NET YARDS ku 419 Toledo 254
Meier had 243 yards. Cornish is not all we have.
ku's defense is impressive. We held Toledo to no first downs in the second half. They came up numerous times to stop USF tonight. Talib was gone for the first two games and since he has been back, I've been confident in our defense. They're inexperienced but the potential is incredible and satisfactory right now.
Our offense under Meier will improve when Meier cuts down on the interceptions and our playcalling hopefully stops putting him in easy turnover positions. The Toledo game was disgusting because numerous times we could have run Cornish instead of throwing with Meier and it would have been wise to do so. They knew Meier was hurt in the final overtime in the Toledo game and yet they still threw the ball. Wtf? In a year or two this offense under Meier is going to be damn awesome imo. I don't expect perfection while he's a freshman.
Special teams is average. No big mistakes, no real big plays.
the Meier brothers are the complete opposite of the Manning brothers. I wonder if they'll go pro and have games against eachother on Monday night..
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How does a ridiculously close game to a crapty team, and KSU losing to the no. 8 team in the nation all of sudden give ku fans a nut sack. Last week it was a meltdown and now we here how we haven't done crap all season.
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KSU will progress though the season. KSU played a very respectable game against a top 10 team.KSU has everything new this year, EVERYTHING . ku has an existing program that has been in place for several years now. KSU is still learning and getting better. I don't believe the same can be said for ku. That said ku & KSU seem to raise their respective bars when they play. I still think KSU will be the best team this year by 2 touchdowns. I believe that KSU offense performs at a higher level as their execution gets better. ku players should know thier offense by now.JMO How long until ku plays somebody? That will really be the measure :ksu:
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KSU will progress though the season. KSU played a very respectable game against a top 10 team.KSU has everything new this year, EVERYTHING . ku has an existing program that has been in place for several years now. KSU is still learning and getting better. I don't believe the same can be said for ku. That said ku & KSU seem to raise their respective bars when they play. I still think KSU will be the best team this year by 2 touchdowns. I believe that KSU offense performs at a higher level as their execution gets better. ku players should know thier offense by now.JMO How long until ku plays somebody? That will really be the measure :ksu:
They play Nubs in Lincoln this Saturday.
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Hey Goldtard, how many players did USF have suspended or injured for that game? Seems about the same as L'Ville without Bush and Brohm.
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Hey Goldtard, how many players did USF have suspended or injured for that game? Seems about the same as L'Ville without Bush and Brohm.
They weren't missing Bush or Brohm caliber players at those key positions.
ku was missing Meier. We put in Barmann.
And they didn't come in and dominate.
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Hey Goldtard, how many players did USF have suspended or injured for that game? Seems about the same as L'Ville without Bush and Brohm.
They weren't missing Bush or Brohm caliber players at those key positions.
ku was missing Meier. We put in Barmann.
And they didn't come in and dominate.
Barmann is better than KM. UofL is a NC contender. Without Brohm they could still give WV a run for there money. With Brohm they are the favorites in that game.
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Hey Goldtard, how many players did USF have suspended or injured for that game? Seems about the same as L'Ville without Bush and Brohm.
They weren't missing Bush or Brohm caliber players at those key positions.
ku was missing Meier. We put in Barmann.
And they didn't come in and dominate.
Barmann is better than KM. UofL is a NC contender. Without Brohm they could still give WV a run for there money. With Brohm they are the favorites in that game.
Barmann is not better than KM. Barmann had a good game last night. Next week if Barmann plays you'll see the Barmann ku fans have seen for a while now. A blundering dumbass who throws the ball at the dirt a yard or two before it gets to the receiver.
Louisville is good. But without Brohm and Bush they lost steam. How much would they have rolled you by if both were there? How much with just Brohm? The game wasn't close. Your offense could do nothing. While your defense is good, I have to wonder if Louisville didn't dumb down their offense a bit for the backup QB. Either way, they still won by 18. When Brohm went out, MJ was quick to point out that with their starting QB gone and the game in Manhattan, KSU could win. Why would he say this if Louisville is still so dominant without Brohm? Because he knew they were lacking their punch.
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Hey Goldtard, how many players did USF have suspended or injured for that game? Seems about the same as L'Ville without Bush and Brohm.
They weren't missing Bush or Brohm caliber players at those key positions.
ku was missing Meier. We put in Barmann.
And they didn't come in and dominate.
Barmann is better than KM. UofL is a NC contender. Without Brohm they could still give WV a run for there money. With Brohm they are the favorites in that game.
Barmann is not better than KM. Barmann had a good game last night. Next week if Barmann plays you'll see the Barmann ku fans have seen for a while now. A blundering dumbass who throws the ball at the dirt a yard or two before it gets to the receiver.
Louisville is good. But without Brohm and Bush they lost steam. How much would they have rolled you by if both were there? How much with just Brohm? The game wasn't close. Your offense could do nothing. While your defense is good, I have to wonder if Louisville didn't dumb down their offense a bit for the backup QB. Either way, they still won by 18. When Brohm went out, MJ was quick to point out that with their starting QB gone and the game in Manhattan, KSU could win. Why would he say this if Louisville is still so dominant without Brohm? Because he knew they were lacking their punch.
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Cantwell is a capable backup who still moved the ball after Brohm went down in the Miami game. Against the Miami D.
Dumbed down the O? Possibly. ku would have faired no better than KSU in this weekend's game. Don't kid yourself.
Also, if you think this year's USF team is as good as last year's, you're dumber than I thought.
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I have to wonder if Louisville didn't dumb down their offense a bit for the backup QB.
What makes you think they "dumbed down" the O?
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A lot of experts are saying that Brohm shouldn't even get the start against WVU. They are saying that he will be cold and Cantwell is the better QB for that game then. Cantwell could very well be a first round draft pick. I doubt they dumbed down their offense. Cantwell got all of the snaps in the Spring game. And had already started in a bowl game. Cantwell would start at any big12 school this year.
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I didn't say ku would have fared better against Louisville. I think it would have been about the same result.
USF is a good team this year. They aren't the Louisville beating team they were though.
I'm not saying ku is clearly better than Ksu. I'm saying they are about even as of now and the game is in Lawrence.
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I didn't say ku would have fared better against Louisville. I think it would have been about the same result.
USF is a good team this year. They aren't the Louisville beating team they were though.
I'm not saying ku is clearly better than Ksu. I'm saying they are about even as of now and the game is in Lawrence.
ku would have gotten murdered by Louisville. The only thing that kept us in the game was our defense. Your defense couldn't stop from giving the Toledo game away. We held the number one offense in the nation to 24 points. They would have hung 40 on you. You might have gotten a TD or a FG more than us but you would not have stopped their O like we did. Petrino was pissed off at how we stopped their offense. Take away the fake punt and the score is 17-6.
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I didn't say ku would have fared better against Louisville. I think it would have been about the same result.
USF is a good team this year. They aren't the Louisville beating team they were though.
I'm not saying ku is clearly better than Ksu. I'm saying they are about even as of now and the game is in Lawrence.
ku would have gotten murdered by Louisville. The only thing that kept us in the game was our defense. Your defense couldn't stop from giving the Toledo game away. We held the number one offense in the nation to 24 points. They would have hung 40 on you. You might have gotten a TD or a FG more than us but you would not have stopped their O like we did. Petrino was pissed off at how we stopped their offense. Take away the fake punt and the score is 17-6.
Our defense gave the Toledo game away? Our defense didn't let Toledo get a first down in the second half of the game. For the first two games of the year we were missing Talib, a pre-season All Big 12 player. Now that he's back, our defense is reliable. Anyone who bags on the ku defense isn't watching our games.
They wouldn't have hung 40 on us in Lawrence.
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I didn't say ku would have fared better against Louisville. I think it would have been about the same result.
USF is a good team this year. They aren't the Louisville beating team they were though.
I'm not saying ku is clearly better than Ksu. I'm saying they are about even as of now and the game is in Lawrence.
ku would have gotten murdered by Louisville. The only thing that kept us in the game was our defense. Your defense couldn't stop from giving the Toledo game away. We held the number one offense in the nation to 24 points. They would have hung 40 on you. You might have gotten a TD or a FG more than us but you would not have stopped their O like we did. Petrino was pissed off at how we stopped their offense. Take away the fake punt and the score is 17-6.
Our defense gave the Toledo game away? Our defense didn't let Toledo get a first down in the second half of the game. For the first two games of the year we were missing Talib, a pre-season All Big 12 player. Now that he's back, our defense is reliable. Anyone who bags on the ku defense isn't watching our games.
They wouldn't have hung 40 on us in Lawrence.
My bad, I meant to say your offense. And I still think Louisville hangs 40 on you.
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I have to wonder if Louisville didn't dumb down their offense a bit for the backup QB.
What makes you think they "dumbed down" the O?
From a Louisville fan:
Your defense: I liked the way they played. However, understand that this was the sloppiest offensive game that UofL has played this year, by far. I think I saw more dropped passes, turnovers, and missed blocking assignments yesterday than I had in our first three games combined. Certainly, your defense didn't make it easy for us, but we were shooting ourselves in the foot as well. Know, too, that our offense is a different animal with Brohm under center than Cantwell.
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that also could be him trying to talk up his team and saying that it wasn't our good d it was their mistakes. you know, kind of what you have been doing recently about the Toledo loss? ;)
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I have to wonder if Louisville didn't dumb down their offense a bit for the backup QB.
What makes you think they "dumbed down" the O?
From a Louisville fan:
Your defense: I liked the way they played. However, understand that this was the sloppiest offensive game that UofL has played this year, by far. I think I saw more dropped passes, turnovers, and missed blocking assignments yesterday than I had in our first three games combined. Certainly, your defense didn't make it easy for us, but we were shooting ourselves in the foot as well. Know, too, that our offense is a different animal with Brohm under center than Cantwell.
Interesting. It was KSU's job to mess up the Louisville offense. Like ku's job to outplay toledo.
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Nothing in that post you quoted equates to your assessment of "dumbing down" the O.
The O wasn't dumbed down. UL threw the ball 26 times. UL established a 17-0 lead and used the rushing attack (42 rushes) to melt the clock.
UL ran double reverses and nothing in their game plan seemed like they were trying to keep Cantwell from 'losing' the game. That much would be obvious to a jar of pudding. Or even you.
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Goldy, you are the biggest F***ing moron on the planet...
ku blows...get over it..
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That much would be obvious to a jar of pudding. Or even you.
:loly:
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Another Louisville fan quote:
In terms of opening the playbook I was merely reflecting on the plays in which Petrino would call for Brohm and how they vastly different from what we saw Saturday. Hell they were anything but normal and borderline on crazy, plently of UofL fans noticed this, but maybe Petrino was trying to reduce turnovers
I don't think they even seen half the playbook saturday
Sloppy game as the other post indicates, less plays, vastly different, with an intent to reduce turnovers.
Yep, sounds like they dumbed it down for a lesser quarterback.
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I'm going to have to presume you didn't see the game. (big surprise) If UL "dumbed down" the O for a "lesser" Qb, they sure showed tremendous confidence in him on the first drive of the game by allowing him to pass on 5 of the the 11 plays in the drive.
Personally, I think uL got their comfortable lead, saw that Cantwell was taking some shots standing in the pocket, and figured the risk of losing another QB to injury, in an OOC game, on the road, far outweighed the reward of having 45 points on the board.
To me, that doesn't constitute dumbing down. For that example, one only needs to look at Herm Edwards game plan last week vs the Donx.
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For as much as ku fans say that Mizzou is their no. 1 rival they sure post about us and obsess over us a whole lot more. Same with the Huskers.
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all i know is that if ku only lost to louisville 6-24, and we only had beaten a team like south florida 13-7, i'd be pretty concerned.
brohm would have helped them but cantwell was on the money most of the time.
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Louisville is the #1 offense in the Country and Bush has been hurt since halfway though the 1st game. Louisville is the #1 scoring offense in the country. Louisville just rolled Miami.
In the Miami game Hunter Cantwell first play was a 45 yard completion down to the Miami 3 yard line with 7:16 seconds left in the THIRD quarter. He lead Louisville to two Touchdowns ... that put the game away. Cantwell had pass completions of 29,39 and 49 yards agianst Miami's defense and was 3 for 4 and 1 TD.
Yet the squawks are all spewing the crap about how "mad" they'd be if they got beat 24-7 by Louisville if Louisville started their "backup" QB and "backup" running back against them.
It just goes to show you how blinded to reality your average squawk is when it comes to discussing KSU football.
Sad ...
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we are miami!
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Didn't ku lose to Toledo?
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ku fans should thank God barmann started against usf and not meier, even if he was healthy. this allowed the coaches to completely change their game plan and allow the offense to not lose the game like they did against toledo. meier would have lost this game, as would the ku playcalling.
fact is, ku went to the final play at home against a team that at best would probably be 9th in the big 12. a team that had a freshman QB on the road. ku is lucky usf didn't kick that fg in the 1st Q, cause they would have tied the game at the end of reg and who knows what would have happened in overtime...we've already seen one meltdown for ku in OT.
also, ku is a 3 TD dog in lincoln, a season after beating nub by 30. yes, the ku program certainly has momentum and is making great strides each season. pray barmann starts again this week, or it will get UGLY. it will be interesting to see if mangino panics and starts barmann the rest of the year in order to secure another 5 D-1A win season.