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Title: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: michigancat on December 13, 2008, 03:08:21 PM
Seems like they should run a "throw the ball to the 7' McDAA at the block" play more.

:dunno:
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: steve dave on December 13, 2008, 03:09:24 PM
What a horrible coach.  Really lacking in the Xs and Os dept.
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: cireksu on December 13, 2008, 03:18:49 PM
or the sherron collins dribble around and jack up a 3 play.
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: steve dave on December 13, 2008, 03:22:45 PM
So, I was watching this game with my wife.  She's a psychology grad and is very smart (prolly the smartest person I know).  She obviously had been breaking down Self's mental state througout the game.  When the game was over she told me, "He's a f^cking retard".  Just thought I would give you guys the point of view of someone who would know. 
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: cireksu on December 13, 2008, 03:24:31 PM
very interesting 'ysis SD.
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: frankencat on December 13, 2008, 03:39:52 PM
I'm sure Self needs a translator in the huddle for the Morris's and Collins, can you imagine the convos those three have :lol:
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: feralchat on December 13, 2008, 03:49:29 PM
Props to Collins' Mohawk, Star cut though.  :beerchug:
And Teahan, ku's white tiger.
And Self T= loss (I thought he knew when to yell).  :lol:
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: Thin Blue Line on December 13, 2008, 03:53:30 PM
And who is #54? Seems to be the team's red-headed stepchild. Or tall candy cane. Can't quite make up my mind.
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: FHSU92 on December 13, 2008, 05:11:00 PM
Props to Collins' Mohawk, Star cut though.  :beerchug:
And Teahan, ku's white tiger.
And Self T= loss (I thought he knew when to yell).  :lol:

His T woulda been more effective with a "Frank You" instead of sayin' bullshiz
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: McGrowlTowelZac on December 13, 2008, 05:13:11 PM
I thought I caught Self covering his mouth once or twice when he swore early on in the game.  He doesn't have the balls to just come out and say it.
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: doom on December 13, 2008, 05:15:39 PM
How can you curse out Brady Morningstar?  The kid looks like he is 9 and a half. 
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: FHSU92 on December 13, 2008, 05:24:20 PM
How can you curse out Brady Morningstar?  The kid looks like he is 9 and a half. 

That and he has a church named after him for God's sake (is it ok to use that when talking about a church - Lord I hope so).
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: cas on December 13, 2008, 05:52:26 PM
So, I was watching this game with my wife.  She's a psychology grad and is very smart (prolly the smartest person I know).  She obviously had been breaking down Self's mental state througout the game.  When the game was over she told me, "He's a f^cking retard".  Just thought I would give you guys the point of view of someone who would know. 

'ascinating stuff sd.
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: BMWJhawk on December 13, 2008, 06:41:36 PM
Self runs more of an NBA, pick and roll offense.  Collins' three at the end was off the same play that we ran in the Nat'l Championship for Chalmers. 
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: QuinnMac on December 13, 2008, 06:47:25 PM
Self runs more of an NBA, pick and roll offense.  Collins' three at the end was off the same play that we ran in the Nat'l Championship for Chalmers. 

Prob should come up w/ a new one, apparently that guy had already seen it.
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: hemmy on December 13, 2008, 06:47:36 PM
So, I was watching this game with my wife.  She's a psychology grad and is very smart (prolly the smartest person I know).  She obviously had been breaking down Self's mental state througout the game.  When the game was over she told me, "He's a f^cking retard".  Just thought I would give you guys the point of view of someone who would know. 

'ascinating stuff sd.

Might as well just type the 'F' sourk :dunno:
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: BMWJhawk on December 13, 2008, 06:49:28 PM
Self runs more of an NBA, pick and roll offense.  Collins' three at the end was off the same play that we ran in the Nat'l Championship for Chalmers. 

Prob should come up w/ a new one, apparently that guy had already seen it.


Collins drained the three to make the game 61-60. 
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: QuinnMac on December 14, 2008, 12:49:15 AM
Self runs more of an NBA, pick and roll offense.  Collins' three at the end was off the same play that we ran in the Nat'l Championship for Chalmers. 

Prob should come up w/ a new one, apparently that guy had already seen it.


Collins drained the three to make the game 61-60. 

Weird wasn't that the final score?
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: RonLongshaft on December 14, 2008, 12:59:58 AM
Self runs more of an NBA, pick and roll offense.  Collins' three at the end was off the same play that we ran in the Nat'l Championship for Chalmers. 

Prob should come up w/ a new one, apparently that guy had already seen it.


Collins drained the three to make the game 61-60. 

Weird wasn't that the final score?

right you are Ken
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: BMWJhawk on December 14, 2008, 12:05:58 PM
Self runs more of an NBA, pick and roll offense.  Collins' three at the end was off the same play that we ran in the Nat'l Championship for Chalmers. 

Prob should come up w/ a new one, apparently that guy had already seen it.


Collins drained the three to make the game 61-60. 

Weird wasn't that the final score?


Yes, but at least ku was in position to win it at the end.  The point is that the play worked.  Once again, Coach Self did a great job of stretching the game and giving his team an opportunity to win.
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: Pett on December 14, 2008, 12:16:52 PM
Yes, but at least ku was in position to win it at the end.

It shouldn't even have come down to that. You lost fare & square to a 2-5 UMass team on a neutral court. :shy:
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: BMWJhawk on December 14, 2008, 12:32:01 PM
Yes, but at least ku was in position to win it at the end.

It shouldn't even have come down to that. You lost fare & square to a 2-5 UMass team on a neutral court. :shy:




Welcome to the game of college basketball, where upsets happen all the time. 
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: QuinnMac on December 14, 2008, 12:44:27 PM
Self runs more of an NBA, pick and roll offense.  Collins' three at the end was off the same play that we ran in the Nat'l Championship for Chalmers. 

Prob should come up w/ a new one, apparently that guy had already seen it.


Collins drained the three to make the game 61-60. 

Weird wasn't that the final score?


Yes, but at least ku was in position to win it at the end.  The point is that the play worked.  Once again, Coach Self did a great job of stretching the game and giving his team an opportunity to win.

So you agree Martin did a great job of "stretching the game and giving his team an opportunity to win" in the Oregon, Kentucky, and Iowa.
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: mcmwcat on December 14, 2008, 12:49:26 PM
Yes, but at least ku was in position to win it at the end.  The point is that the play worked.  Once again, Coach Self did a great job of stretching the game and giving his team an opportunity to win.

So you agree Martin did a great job of "stretching the game and giving his team an opportunity to win" in the Oregon, Kentucky, and Iowa.

i think 84-75 already established frank's o's & x's eliteness.  a team w/ 9 new players losing its best (and only?) returning player for the season crushes national champion.
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: BMWJhawk on December 14, 2008, 12:54:16 PM
Self runs more of an NBA, pick and roll offense.  Collins' three at the end was off the same play that we ran in the Nat'l Championship for Chalmers. 

Prob should come up w/ a new one, apparently that guy had already seen it.


Collins drained the three to make the game 61-60. 

Weird wasn't that the final score?


Yes, but at least ku was in position to win it at the end.  The point is that the play worked.  Once again, Coach Self did a great job of stretching the game and giving his team an opportunity to win.

So you agree Martin did a great job of "stretching the game and giving his team an opportunity to win" in the Oregon, Kentucky, and Iowa.



Only game I saw was the Kentucky game. 
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: cireksu on December 14, 2008, 01:04:39 PM
If you are ku, how the frack do you lose at home to  a 2 win team? 
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: cas on December 14, 2008, 01:10:53 PM
If you are ku, how the frack do you lose at home to  a 2 win team? 

Because they are a &@#%ing joke.
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: catdude33 on December 14, 2008, 01:21:33 PM
Self runs more of an NBA, pick and roll offense.  Collins' three at the end was off the same play that we ran in the Nat'l Championship for Chalmers. 

Do you really need to run a play to get off a guarded 3-point attempt?
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: BMWJhawk on December 14, 2008, 01:31:45 PM
Self runs more of an NBA, pick and roll offense.  Collins' three at the end was off the same play that we ran in the Nat'l Championship for Chalmers. 

Do you really need to run a play to get off a guarded 3-point attempt?



Ever played basketball?  Ever heard of a set shot?
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: catdude33 on December 14, 2008, 01:34:41 PM
Self runs more of an NBA, pick and roll offense.  Collins' three at the end was off the same play that we ran in the Nat'l Championship for Chalmers. 

Do you really need to run a play to get off a guarded 3-point attempt?



Ever played basketball?  Ever heard of a set shot?

Yes.  Yes.   :confused:
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: BMWJhawk on December 14, 2008, 01:41:55 PM
Play allows shooter to get off a set shot.


 :confused:
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: catdude33 on December 14, 2008, 01:44:05 PM
 :confused:

(http://www.cnnsi.com/si_blogs/ncaa_tourney/2008/uploaded_images/28chalmers-772469.jpg)
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: MOKSUAZ on December 14, 2008, 01:49:25 PM
:confused:

(http://www.cnnsi.com/si_blogs/ncaa_tourney/2008/uploaded_images/28chalmers-772469.jpg)

this is called the rusrob pass the ball to chalmers while falling down oh sh.it better shot it play. 
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: fatty fat fat on December 14, 2008, 01:59:23 PM
chalmers was like a 50% three point shooter last year which is absurd. Every coach can run that play. Seriously, stop acting like that some genius play by self, chalmers made that play not self.
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: BMWJhawk on December 14, 2008, 02:00:01 PM
:confused:

(http://www.cnnsi.com/si_blogs/ncaa_tourney/2008/uploaded_images/28chalmers-772469.jpg)



....and?  Chalmers' feet are square with the basket and he's taking a controlled, set shot.  
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: BMWJhawk on December 14, 2008, 02:00:48 PM
chalmers was like a 50% three point shooter last year which is absurd. Every coach can run that play. Seriously, stop acting like that some genius play by self, chalmers made that play not self.


I'm just pointing out that Self uses offensive sets.  It was a designed play and it worked.  What more can you ask for?
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: yoga-lika_abana on December 14, 2008, 02:02:28 PM
chalmers was like a 50% three point shooter last year which is absurd. Every coach can run that play. Seriously, stop acting like that some genius play by self, chalmers made that play not self.


I'm just pointing out that Self uses offensive sets.  It was a designed play and it worked.  What more can you ask for?
its like his only play. example last night.
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: fatty fat fat on December 14, 2008, 02:03:49 PM
chalmers was like a 50% three point shooter last year which is absurd. Every coach can run that play. Seriously, stop acting like that some genius play by self, chalmers made that play not self.


I'm just pointing out that Self uses offensive sets.  It was a designed play and it worked.  What more can you ask for?

noone here disagrees. When rusty posts what he did in the original post, it's a mock of phog.netters who think Frank is some idiotic "x's and o's" coach when in reality every coach looks retarded w/retarded players.
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: MOKSUAZ on December 14, 2008, 02:10:21 PM
:confused:

(http://www.cnnsi.com/si_blogs/ncaa_tourney/2008/uploaded_images/28chalmers-772469.jpg)



....and?  Chalmers' feet are square with the basket and he's taking a controlled, set shot.  

if that was a controlled, set shot i'm a master bball'er.  dude had to rush a last second 3 pointer.  only reason he feet are 'square' to the basket is b/c he is facing that way dipshi.t.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSfO5px0Njc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSfO5px0Njc)
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: WilliamTheWildcat on December 14, 2008, 02:13:21 PM
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noone here disagrees. When rusty posts what he did in the original post, it's a mock of phog.netters who think Frank is some idiotic "x's and o's" coach when in reality every coach looks retarded w/retarded players.


I was hoping you wouldn't point this out our guest with the synaptic firing sequence of a cap gun.  Witnessing this little foot stamping sermon has been great Sunday comedy.
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: cireksu on December 14, 2008, 02:17:15 PM
chalmers was like a 50% three point shooter last year which is absurd. Every coach can run that play. Seriously, stop acting like that some genius play by self, chalmers made that play not self.


I'm just pointing out that Self uses offensive sets.  It was a designed play and it worked.  What more can you ask for?

noone here disagrees. When rusty posts what he did in the original post, it's a mock of phog.netters who think Frank is some idiotic "x's and o's" coach when in reality every coach looks retarded w/retarded players.

 :billypopcorn:
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: BMWJhawk on December 14, 2008, 02:46:18 PM
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noone here disagrees. When rusty posts what he did in the original post, it's a mock of phog.netters who think Frank is some idiotic "x's and o's" coach when in reality every coach looks retarded w/retarded players.


I was hoping you wouldn't point this out our guest with the synaptic firing sequence of a cap gun.  Witnessing this little foot stamping sermon has been great Sunday comedy.



Look, I know who you are.  I realize you were a huge f*cking dork in high school.  I realize you've been rotting away at K-State while I'm going to Orange Bowls and celebrating National Championship, but seriously, I've never seen someone cling to the nut sack of other posters as much as you do.   Of course I realize that KSU Fans is almost 90% tongue in cheek.  Doesn't stop me from stirring up the hornet's nest and creating a little discussion. 
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: MOKSUAZ on December 14, 2008, 02:49:35 PM
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noone here disagrees. When rusty posts what he did in the original post, it's a mock of phog.netters who think Frank is some idiotic "x's and o's" coach when in reality every coach looks retarded w/retarded players.


I was hoping you wouldn't point this out our guest with the synaptic firing sequence of a cap gun.  Witnessing this little foot stamping sermon has been great Sunday comedy.



Look, I know who you are.  I realize you were a huge f*cking dork in high school.  I realize you've been rotting away at K-State while I'm going to Orange Bowls and celebrating National Championship, but seriously, I've never seen someone cling to the nut sack of other posters as much as you do.   Of course I realize that KSU Fans is almost 90% tongue in cheek.  Doesn't stop me from stirring up the hornet's nest and creating a little discussion. 

and while ku is celebrating NC's and OB's, Ben is on a KSU message board.  oh, can i see pics of you at the orange bowl with your helmet and pads on?  or you standing on the stage with BS and the jailhouse gang? 
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: FUKU on December 14, 2008, 04:01:14 PM
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noone here disagrees. When rusty posts what he did in the original post, it's a mock of phog.netters who think Frank is some idiotic "x's and o's" coach when in reality every coach looks retarded w/retarded players.


I was hoping you wouldn't point this out our guest with the synaptic firing sequence of a cap gun.  Witnessing this little foot stamping sermon has been great Sunday comedy.



Look, I know who you are.  I realize you were a huge f*cking dork in high school.  I realize you've been rotting away at K-State while I'm going to Orange Bowls and celebrating National Championship, but seriously, I've never seen someone cling to the nut sack of other posters as much as you do.   Of course I realize that KSU Fans is almost 90% tongue in cheek.  Doesn't stop me from stirring up the hornet's nest and creating a little discussion. 

You were not cool in high school, Ben.
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: BMWJhawk on December 14, 2008, 04:22:47 PM
Okay, Bervert/Basom/Heim... where did I call myself "cool?" 


 :confused:
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: FUKU on December 14, 2008, 04:51:33 PM
Okay, Bervert/Basom/Heim... where did I call myself "cool?" 


 :confused:

LOL.
Title: Re: Does Bill Self even run offensive sets?
Post by: WilliamTheWildcat on December 14, 2008, 09:27:56 PM
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noone here disagrees. When rusty posts what he did in the original post, it's a mock of phog.netters who think Frank is some idiotic "x's and o's" coach when in reality every coach looks retarded w/retarded players.


I was hoping you wouldn't point this out our guest with the synaptic firing sequence of a cap gun.  Witnessing this little foot stamping sermon has been great Sunday comedy.



Look, I know who you are.  I realize you were a huge f*cking dork in high school.  I realize you've been rotting away at K-State while I'm going to Orange Bowls and celebrating National Championship, but seriously, I've never seen someone cling to the nut sack of other posters as much as you do.   Of course I realize that KSU Fans is almost 90% tongue in cheek.  Doesn't stop me from stirring up the hornet's nest and creating a little discussion. 
LMAO. Ben in patty melt down mode.  Gosh, while you were at the Orange Bowl I was rotting away at the Fiesta Bowl. Twice.  While you were watching the NC game, I was rotting on the field for the Royals 85 WS victory.

But you keep trying Ben-Ben.  Cling to the nut sack of other posters?  How do you figure?  I routinely own you like a plantation slave.  In essence, on this board, you are the car stuck on the train tracks and I'm the locomotive coming at you.  You can hear the whistle, but instead of jumping out, you desperately try to start to the car until it's too late.