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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: Pete on December 07, 2008, 06:51:37 PM
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My email says chuck long.
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You dont have a hair on your balls to say who this info is from.
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You dont have a hair on your balls to say who this info is from.
Does that even make sense?
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You dont have a hair on your balls to say who this info is from.
Does that even make sense?
Sure it does. I get asked for ball hair as identification all the time.
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You dont have a hair on your balls to say who this info is from.
Does that even make sense?
Sure it does. I get asked for ball hair as identification all the time.
HAHA
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That rumor definitely has some legs.
There have been rumors that Long could be a candidate to join the coaching staff of the recently returned Kansas State Coach Bill Snyder as offensive coordinator. He didn’t rule out that possibility.
“We’ll see,” Long said. “I’ve got to keep that open ended and see what it is.”
Long said his return to coaching did not even have to be as an offensive coordinator.
“I don’t have that kind of ego where I have to have this or that,” he said. “I’ll go back as a regular assistant as long as it’s the right guy and right situation.”
http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/07/the-next-step-for-chuck-long/
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That rumor definitely has some legs.
There have been rumors that Long could be a candidate to join the coaching staff of the recently returned Kansas State Coach Bill Snyder as offensive coordinator. He didn’t rule out that possibility.
“We’ll see,” Long said. “I’ve got to keep that open ended and see what it is.”
Long said his return to coaching did not even have to be as an offensive coordinator.
“I don’t have that kind of ego where I have to have this or that,” he said. “I’ll go back as a regular assistant as long as it’s the right guy and right situation.”
http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/07/the-next-step-for-chuck-long/
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Sonny D as OC and Long as a positions coach? I could deal with that.
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If that pans out and our defensive coordinator is truly VK I will fall in love with this staff right away... :excited:
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I don't think I'd go that far but VK & CL would definitely be better than I expected. :santachimney:
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Could there be a more right guy and right situation for Chuck Long than to return as an assistant for Coach Snyder, someone he has a close relationship with, is recognized as a brilliant offensive mind and likely will only coach 5 more years....and is located in the midwest, where Long played and coached before. Seems like a good fit as an assistant....now the role, I'm not sure of.
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You dont have a hair on your balls to say who this info is from.
Does that even make sense?
Sure it does. I get asked for ball hair as identification all the time.
HAHA
or a Major League 2 reference, " I bet you don't have enough hair on your ass to throw me another one"
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Could there be a more right guy and right situation for Chuck Long than to return as an assistant for Coach Snyder ....
That part's a bit off. Chuck was just "reassigned" rather than fired so he probably gets to collect his HC salary until he accepts a new gig. Coming to KSU for a fraction of that might not be that great a situation for him.
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Could there be a more right guy and right situation for Chuck Long than to return as an assistant for Coach Snyder ....
That part's a bit off. Chuck was just "reassigned" rather than fired so he probably gets to collect his HC salary until he accepts a new gig. Coming to KSU for a fraction of that might not be that great a situation for him.
Conspiracy theory is that there are loop-holes that might allow both to happen.
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Could there be a more right guy and right situation for Chuck Long than to return as an assistant for Coach Snyder ....
That part's a bit off. Chuck was just "reassigned" rather than fired so he probably gets to collect his HC salary until he accepts a new gig. Coming to KSU for a fraction of that might not be that great a situation for him.
Conspiracy theory is that there are loop-holes that might allow both to happen.
We probably won't get him.
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Could there be a more right guy and right situation for Chuck Long than to return as an assistant for Coach Snyder ....
That part's a bit off. Chuck was just "reassigned" rather than fired so he probably gets to collect his HC salary until he accepts a new gig. Coming to KSU for a fraction of that might not be that great a situation for him.
If he goes out of work for two years, he's out of work permanently. It's beyond stupid to think he's going to sit out for two years.
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Could there be a more right guy and right situation for Chuck Long than to return as an assistant for Coach Snyder ....
That part's a bit off. Chuck was just "reassigned" rather than fired so he probably gets to collect his HC salary until he accepts a new gig. Coming to KSU for a fraction of that might not be that great a situation for him.
Conspiracy theory is that there are loop-holes that might allow both to happen.
Hmmm, that link above says he was fired / bought out. Maybe the reporting from out west a couple of weeks back wasn't accurate.
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Here is the original article from the San Diego Union Trib (http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/aztecs/20081126-1359-bn26sdsu.html)
San Diego State Athletic Director Jeff Schemmel said he felt like his football program had reached a point on the field from which it “could not recover” with Chuck Long as head coach.
Because of that, he decided last week to fire Long even though he had told reporters a month earlier that Long would return as coach at least through 2009.
Schemmel's decision was possible thanks to more than $1 million in donations from an unspecified number of unnamed boosters. Long is owed around $1.4 million for the final two years of his contract.
Sounds like he gets a lump sum buy out.
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But only if he doesn't coach for the next 2 years from what I have read.
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This article (http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/aztecs/20081125-9999-1s25azpact.html) has a bit more info:
According to the terms of [Long's] contract, he's entitled to his regular salary of more than $700,000 for the final two years of his contract unless he gets a job somewhere else.
If he obtains other employment, his contract states, “You shall be entitled to no further compensation whatsoever from the date of that other employment.”
While it's always possible that the context could alter it somewhat the plain language there seems relatively straightforward, assuming of course that the reporter quoted the contract accurately.
And this makes it seem likely that he'll be obligated to stick around and work for SDSU, particularly sinced they've done it more than once in the past:
Long's firing is technically a “reassignment” for the remainder of his contract. Similarly, former Aztecs football coach Denny Stolz was reassigned to become golf coach after being fired after the 1988 season, with three years left on his contract. It's the school's way of still getting something for its money, at least in principle. Long's predecessor, Tom Craft, also technically was “reassigned” after his firing in 2005, with one season left on his deal. SDSU officials said he worked as a liaison between the school and former players and coaches.
Don Oberhelman, SDSU's senior associate athletic director, said Long's reassignment hasn't been determined.
Oberhelman said Long would be “incredibly valuable in a development role” if Long ended up sticking around.
That last bit sounds more than a little like they intend to sit him at a desk and make him raise the money they're going to have to pay him. :lol: But it would also seem to preclude any action on Long's part that includes spending next year coaching in Manhattan since he'll be otherwise occupied in San Diego, at least if he wants to collect his $700k/year.
Here's hoping he gets a buyout.
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This article (http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/aztecs/20081125-9999-1s25azpact.html) has a bit more info:
According to the terms of [Long's] contract, he's entitled to his regular salary of more than $700,000 for the final two years of his contract unless he gets a job somewhere else.
If he obtains other employment, his contract states, “You shall be entitled to no further compensation whatsoever from the date of that other employment.”
While it's always possible that the context could alter it somewhat the plain language there seems relatively straightforward, assuming of course that the reporter quoted the contract accurately.
And this makes it seem likely that he'll be obligated to stick around and work for SDSU, particularly sinced they've done it more than once in the past:
Long's firing is technically a “reassignment” for the remainder of his contract. Similarly, former Aztecs football coach Denny Stolz was reassigned to become golf coach after being fired after the 1988 season, with three years left on his contract. It's the school's way of still getting something for its money, at least in principle. Long's predecessor, Tom Craft, also technically was “reassigned” after his firing in 2005, with one season left on his deal. SDSU officials said he worked as a liaison between the school and former players and coaches.
Don Oberhelman, SDSU's senior associate athletic director, said Long's reassignment hasn't been determined.
Oberhelman said Long would be “incredibly valuable in a development role” if Long ended up sticking around.
That last bit sounds more than a little like they intend to sit him at a desk and make him raise the money they're going to have to pay him. :lol: But it would also seem to preclude any action on Long's part that includes spending next year coaching in Manhattan since he'll be otherwise occupied in San Diego, at least if he wants to collect his $700k/year.
Here's hoping he gets a buyout.
On the plus side. $700k/year in San Diego is like $400k/year in Manhattan.
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This article (http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/aztecs/20081125-9999-1s25azpact.html) has a bit more info:
According to the terms of [Long's] contract, he's entitled to his regular salary of more than $700,000 for the final two years of his contract unless he gets a job somewhere else.
If he obtains other employment, his contract states, “You shall be entitled to no further compensation whatsoever from the date of that other employment.”
While it's always possible that the context could alter it somewhat the plain language there seems relatively straightforward, assuming of course that the reporter quoted the contract accurately.
And this makes it seem likely that he'll be obligated to stick around and work for SDSU, particularly sinced they've done it more than once in the past:
Long's firing is technically a “reassignment” for the remainder of his contract. Similarly, former Aztecs football coach Denny Stolz was reassigned to become golf coach after being fired after the 1988 season, with three years left on his contract. It's the school's way of still getting something for its money, at least in principle. Long's predecessor, Tom Craft, also technically was “reassigned” after his firing in 2005, with one season left on his deal. SDSU officials said he worked as a liaison between the school and former players and coaches.
Don Oberhelman, SDSU's senior associate athletic director, said Long's reassignment hasn't been determined.
Oberhelman said Long would be “incredibly valuable in a development role” if Long ended up sticking around.
That last bit sounds more than a little like they intend to sit him at a desk and make him raise the money they're going to have to pay him. :lol: But it would also seem to preclude any action on Long's part that includes spending next year coaching in Manhattan since he'll be otherwise occupied in San Diego, at least if he wants to collect his $700k/year.
Here's hoping he gets a buyout.
On the plus side. $700k/year in San Diego is like $400k/year in Manhattan.
On the other hand that house he bought in Poway three years ago is probably worth like 2/3 of what he paid for it, if he's lucky. Sitting there a couple of years could net him more in gains on the property than he'll make as an assistant at KSU.
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This article (http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/aztecs/20081125-9999-1s25azpact.html) has a bit more info:
According to the terms of [Long's] contract, he's entitled to his regular salary of more than $700,000 for the final two years of his contract unless he gets a job somewhere else.
If he obtains other employment, his contract states, “You shall be entitled to no further compensation whatsoever from the date of that other employment.”
While it's always possible that the context could alter it somewhat the plain language there seems relatively straightforward, assuming of course that the reporter quoted the contract accurately.
And this makes it seem likely that he'll be obligated to stick around and work for SDSU, particularly sinced they've done it more than once in the past:
Long's firing is technically a “reassignment” for the remainder of his contract. Similarly, former Aztecs football coach Denny Stolz was reassigned to become golf coach after being fired after the 1988 season, with three years left on his contract. It's the school's way of still getting something for its money, at least in principle. Long's predecessor, Tom Craft, also technically was “reassigned” after his firing in 2005, with one season left on his deal. SDSU officials said he worked as a liaison between the school and former players and coaches.
Don Oberhelman, SDSU's senior associate athletic director, said Long's reassignment hasn't been determined.
Oberhelman said Long would be “incredibly valuable in a development role” if Long ended up sticking around.
That last bit sounds more than a little like they intend to sit him at a desk and make him raise the money they're going to have to pay him. :lol: But it would also seem to preclude any action on Long's part that includes spending next year coaching in Manhattan since he'll be otherwise occupied in San Diego, at least if he wants to collect his $700k/year.
Here's hoping he gets a buyout.
or he could negotiate a lump sum for less than the $1.4M and leave immediately.
Remember it said the AD raised $1M to buy him out.
This would save the school money (really how much is a fired coach going to raise sitting at a desk) and give CL the ability to coach immediately.
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Chuck Long...the first volunteer OC in the Big XII.
Let him keep his two-year commitment to SDSU and we'll just reimburse him for gas used on the recruiting trail.