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"I like him, he's very smart," Brown said. "He knows his Xs and Os and he's real good with people. But I don't think it would be right to say Kansas State is on my radar."
http://www.kansas.com/sports/lutz/story/623060.html
At least Ron got him to visit. :flush:
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"I'm happy with my high school career," he said. "But with all of the things being said, I don't really feel like I got as much support as I should have. Being from Wichita and Kansas and being a positive influence with younger kids... anything positive that happens, it seems like people are always trying to find a negative to it."
I didn't understand what Brown was talking about, so I asked him to be more specific.
He said he reads posts on message boards that have been critical of him for his play, his attitude and his demeanor.
"They say things like, 'He's not as good as he thinks he is,"He doesn't play any competition', 'He's a prima donna,' " Brown said. "It's like, 'What else am I supposed to do? I'm doing positive things. I'm not on the street, getting into trouble or anything like that."
Thanks for reading the board Bryce! Tell Butler we (ksufans.commers) love him!
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What a prima donna.
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Atleast talk of him taking an unofficial to MHK when Snyder visited him came up.
It looks good to the "potential players" in Wichita. :peek:
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Now there's the Krusty we all know and love, the darkside is simply too much to overcome. :kstatriot:
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:banghead:
Seriously, we haven't even landed a decent KANSAS kid in 3 years now. Our football program is filled with complete pieces of sh*t.
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what the f*ck did anyone expect:
He admits to having an issue with K-State, but it's a legitimate beef. His argument is that the talent in Wichita or elsewhere in Kansas is just as good as the talent elsewhere, but K-State and ku have historically never embraced this notion.
According to Butler, the logic in the past was why take a chance on a second-tier prospect from Kansas when a passed-over, fourth-tier kid from Texas was available? Send the Kansan to a junior college --"the farm system," Butler said -- and take the Texan, if for no other reason than perception.
Butler -- and both Browns -- take exception with such logic, which was prevalent under Bill Snyder but still exists now with Ron Prince.
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You guys just wait! :ksu:
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That means we're not recruiting him. Duh.
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what the f*ck did anyone expect:
He admits to having an issue with K-State, but it's a legitimate beef. His argument is that the talent in Wichita or elsewhere in Kansas is just as good as the talent elsewhere, but K-State and ku have historically never embraced this notion.
According to Butler, the logic in the past was why take a chance on a second-tier prospect from Kansas when a passed-over, fourth-tier kid from Texas was available? Send the Kansan to a junior college --"the farm system," Butler said -- and take the Texan, if for no other reason than perception.
Butler -- and both Browns -- take exception with such logic, which was prevalent under Bill Snyder but still exists now with Ron Prince.
butler is a retard. if a kid out of texas was the top rated player in the country he would start or get serious pt at a major program from day one.
brown bros. not so much.
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I am sure the fans at Ou or miami will be super nice and supportive. they have no expectations at all.
As Sproles can attest, KSU fans are notoriously way hard on kansas kids who play at KSU. Most fans I know don't even know what Darren is doing now. they are like "who gives a frack that he had 2 receiving TD's on Thursday?"
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what the f*ck did anyone expect:
He admits to having an issue with K-State, but it's a legitimate beef. His argument is that the talent in Wichita or elsewhere in Kansas is just as good as the talent elsewhere, but K-State and ku have historically never embraced this notion.
According to Butler, the logic in the past was why take a chance on a second-tier prospect from Kansas when a passed-over, fourth-tier kid from Texas was available? Send the Kansan to a junior college --"the farm system," Butler said -- and take the Texan, if for no other reason than perception.
Butler -- and both Browns -- take exception with such logic, which was prevalent under Bill Snyder but still exists now with Ron Prince.
I really am not seeing how he can say Kansas State never embraced this notion our best players were from kansas, sproles, Nelson, Newman, Simioneau, Beisel. Im sorry Bryce but that just isn't legit.
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If that article is true he is going to have a difficult time emotionally making it through his college career.
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what the f*ck did anyone expect:
He admits to having an issue with K-State, but it's a legitimate beef. His argument is that the talent in Wichita or elsewhere in Kansas is just as good as the talent elsewhere, but K-State and ku have historically never embraced this notion.
According to Butler, the logic in the past was why take a chance on a second-tier prospect from Kansas when a passed-over, fourth-tier kid from Texas was available? Send the Kansan to a junior college --"the farm system," Butler said -- and take the Texan, if for no other reason than perception.
Butler -- and both Browns -- take exception with such logic, which was prevalent under Bill Snyder but still exists now with Ron Prince.
I really am not seeing how he can say Kansas State never embraced this notion our best players were from kansas, sproles, Nelson, Newman, Simioneau, Beisel. Im sorry Bryce but that just isn't legit.
He wants to be sucked up to. Nothing wrong with that, most people enjoy having their ass kissed. It is pretty transparent though. Jeezus, look at the '98 teams roster. It is basically the state of Kansas.
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butler and the browns are idiots.
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butler and the browns are idiots.
OMFG :flush:
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The guy has basically no coaching experience, and only one of his bigtime prospects is unsigned. Why would we hire him again? The second we hired him, any pipeline would cease to exist. We'd be better off just making ties with him and his development program, that way we would actually be a player for future prospects.
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Great Idea!
FYP
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The guy has basically no coaching experience (doesn't have to be a coach), and only one of his bigtime prospects is unsigned (no players are signed yet). Why would we hire him again(reruiting)? The second we hired him, any pipeline would cease to exist (no it wouldn't see 'te). We'd be better off just making ties with him and his development program, that way we would actually be a player for future prospects (best way to make ties is to pay him a bunch of money).
here's a better fyp
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The guy has basically no coaching experience (doesn't have to be a coach), and only one of his bigtime prospects is unsigned (no players are signed yet). Why would we hire him again(reruiting)? The second we hired him, any pipeline would cease to exist (no it wouldn't see 'te). We'd be better off just making ties with him and his development program, that way we would actually be a player for future prospects (best way to make ties is to pay him a bunch of money).
here's a better fyp
Well, I guess the kids are committed, not signed, but still committed. And this isn't a DCA type of pipeline. Butler is the sole organizer of Potential Players, once he stops running it, it ceases to exist. The only reason I could see to hire Butler was if Bell was a package deal, but I think Bell will listen to his dad and uncle much more than Butler. Plus, Bell is more of a pro-style QB anyway, so I'm not sure he would be a great fit for our offense.
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speaking of recruiting machine. Who does everyone think will be Bills first commit.
I bet we get this guy. http://kansasstate.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=81470
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I am sure the fans at Ou or miami will be super nice and supportive. they have no expectations at all.
As Sproles can attest, KSU fans are notoriously way hard on kansas kids who play at KSU. Most fans I know don't even know what Darren is doing now. they are like "who gives a frack that he had 2 receiving TD's on Thursday?"
Jordy just caught a TD also. :kstatriot:
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Bryce Brown = Needy little bitch. &@#% him. "KSU not on my radar." &@#% that. &@#% Butler. He says he's pissed at ku and KSU for passing on Kansas kids. Maybe this type of crap is why. Just because a kid is good enough to get a sniff from major programs, they all of a sudden think they are too good to stay in state. Guess what, it is an honor and privilege to get to stay in state and wear the colors of your home team. Maybe that's not in the cards for a whiney little bitch like Bryce.
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Is Bryce Brown an Adrian Peterson? NO.
Most RB's are overrated by rivals. Who is UT's RB or OU's?
The pass game has eclipsed them.
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Is Bryce Brown an Adrian Peterson? NO.
Most RB's are overrated by rivals. Who is UT's RB or OU's?
The pass game has eclipsed them.
That's actually a pretty damn good point. I think its nice to have one who can catch a bit and a FB for blocking and goal line situations but otherwise, bring hardworking kids from Smith Center.
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OU has ridic. good RBs, so that is silly to say IMO
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We needed some of those unqualified guys to play. They have more speed but RB's are really not as important now.
Our Oline needs to make huge improvements in run blocking. We need a kickass FB.
Ou's rb= not impressive. Adrian =impressive game changer.
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I can't imagine a more Snydertard response to losing Brown than "we don't really want him".
Nice work, guys.
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i **may** consider buying season tickets next year if we can land brown.
it'd be nice to actually cheer for good players instead of pieces of sh*t.
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Most of our great players throughout the years have been primma donnas. Cocky, arrogant, bastards almost always make amazing football players. Ell Roberson is one of the best examples. Come home Bryce!!
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Most of our great players throughout the years have been primma donnas. Cocky, arrogant, bastards almost always make amazing football players.
yeah, they are cocky because they are f*cking good and they work their asses off. Why is this so hard to understand?
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:banghead:
Seriously, we haven't even landed a decent KANSAS kid in 3 years now. Our football program is filled with complete pieces of sh*t.
As a newbie with this being my first post, I will have earned no respect here as a poster and don't anticipate any kudos as a result of what I'm about to say here. However I'm going to start off my posting here by telling you that your statement above is 180 degrees from the truth. Now maybe, the quantity and quality might be down from the previous Snyder era, but to blatantly say "we haven't even landed a decent KANSAS kids in 3 years now", is unfair. Are you telling me that Logan Dold isn't even decent? How about Braden Wilson who will be on scholarship in January? All he did in six weeks last summer was to place himself about 4 or 5th on the depth chart at a tightend position which he didn't even play in high school! I'll tell you this...Braden is tough as nails and will see the field more sooner than later.
Redmen1
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:banghead:
Seriously, we haven't even landed a decent KANSAS kid in 3 years now. Our football program is filled with complete pieces of sh*t.
As a newbie with this being my first post, I will have earned no respect here as a poster and don't anticipate any kudos as a result of what I'm about to say here. However I'm going to start off my posting here by telling you that your statement above is 180 degrees from the truth. Now maybe, the quantity and quality might be down from the previous Snyder era, but to blatantly say "we haven't even landed a decent KANSAS kids in 3 years now", is unfair. Are you telling me that Logan Dold isn't even decent? How about Braden Wilson who will be on scholarship in January? All he did in six weeks last summer was to place himself about 4 or 5th on the depth chart at a tightend position which he didn't even play in high school! I'll tell you this...Braden is tough as nails and will see the field more sooner than later.
Redmen1
They are both garbage. Unbelievable that people don't get this.
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:banghead:
Seriously, we haven't even landed a decent KANSAS kid in 3 years now. Our football program is filled with complete pieces of sh*t.
As a newbie with this being my first post, I will have earned no respect here as a poster and don't anticipate any kudos as a result of what I'm about to say here. However I'm going to start off my posting here by telling you that your statement above is 180 degrees from the truth. Now maybe, the quantity and quality might be down from the previous Snyder era, but to blatantly say "we haven't even landed a decent KANSAS kids in 3 years now", is unfair. Are you telling me that Logan Dold isn't even decent? How about Braden Wilson who will be on scholarship in January? All he did in six weeks last summer was to place himself about 4 or 5th on the depth chart at a tightend position which he didn't even play in high school! I'll tell you this...Braden is tough as nails and will see the field more sooner than later.
Redmen1
this should be good.
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Most of our great players throughout the years have been primma donnas. Cocky, arrogant, bastards almost always make amazing football players.
yeah, they are cocky because they are f*cking good and they work their asses off. Why is this so hard to understand?
:rolleyes:
95% of college fball players are assholes. it isn't predictive of being good.
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I guess I'm not close enough to Logan Dold to defend my statement there, but I guarantee you that Braden Wilson is not "garbage" and you'll eat your words about that someday. Have you even seen him play? I'm guessing not!
Redmen1
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Most of our great players throughout the years have been primma donnas. Cocky, arrogant, bastards almost always make amazing football players.
yeah, they are cocky because they are f*cking good and they work their asses off. Why is this so hard to understand?
:rolleyes:
95% of college fball players are assholes. it isn't predictive of being good.
assholes is not the same as prima donna.
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define please.
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I guess I'm not close enough to Logan Dold to defend my statement there, but I guarantee you that Braden Wilson is not "garbage" and you'll eat your words about that someday. Have you even seen him play? I'm guessing not!
Redmen1
Is he a LB? He couldn't start on our sh*t team? That's not a good sign
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?sport=1&pr_key=77604
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define please.
assholes = dicks off the court
prima donnas = don't listen to coaches 100% because they think they know more than the coach (which they do)
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mangino would have offered if he was any good.
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As a newbie with this being my first post, I will have earned no respect here as a poster and don't anticipate any kudos as a result of what I'm about to say here. However I'm going to start off my posting here by telling you that your statement above is 180 degrees from the truth. Now maybe, the quantity and quality might be down from the previous Snyder era, but to blatantly say "we haven't even landed a decent KANSAS kids in 3 years now", is unfair. Are you telling me that Logan Dold isn't even decent? How about Braden Wilson who will be on scholarship in January? All he did in six weeks last summer was to place himself about 4 or 5th on the depth chart at a tightend position which he didn't even play in high school! I'll tell you this...Braden is tough as nails and will see the field more sooner than later.
Redmen1
Judging by your name, you are from Smith Center....and you would be bias about Braden.
I know Braden was first team all state & got some nice awards in the post season last year, but why should we be so excited about him??
He was grayshirted on a terrible 5-7 team, a prince player, & was only offered by d-2 & JUCO's teams. And here you are saying that he will be productive on a Big XII team. :rolleyes:
Hell, BW wasn't even in the Kansas top 15 last year. :shy:
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Thought this was interesting for some reason.
46. KANSAS STATE (Previous rank: 28, 32, 23, 43, 37). Bill Snyder is the first to admit the Wildcats did not recruit well in-state. No Kansas prep recruits signed to play in Manhattan. Of course, Kansas isn't exactly a fountain of talent. Only a few superior prospects came out of the state this year, such as WR Gary Heaggans (PURDUE), OLs Travis Watkins and Tony Coker (KANSAS), Jesse Grove (HOUSTON), OL Chase Johnson (tcu) and DL Micah Minshall (MISSOURI). So, what is the deal? Snyder is picky about who he wants and he wanted offensive linemen. He went into Texas and signed two of the best: Chris Boggas and Nick Leckey. Well-publicized Iowa TE Jon Doty probably has better feet for the offensive line. Snyder needs help in his kicking game and signed Jared Brite from California, a pitcher who was actually discovered by Kansas State's baseball coaches. Six JUCOs come with this 18-signee effort, led by one of the nation's elite RBs, Josh Scobey, who will ease fears about Joe Hall's eligibility. Scobey, and his super moves, are already enrolled. QB Will Martin from Tennessee wasn't recruited by the WILDCATS until two weeks before Signing Day. Usually that's a bad sign. But Snyder never even heard of the guy until then. As you might expect, Martin reminds Snyder of Michael Bishop. He passed for 1,468 yds and 10 TDs and also ran for 1,026 yds and 17 scores.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/college/recruiting/news/2000/03/27/recruiting_watch/
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You're right I am from Smith Center and yes, I'm probably biased. However, we've had some pretty good players go through the program at KSU (Brooks Barta, Jeff Simoneau, Mark Simoneau, and Justin Montgomery). All of these players were great Redmen players prior to wearing purple on Saturdays. Braden has all of the same qualities and the same work ethic of all of the aforementioned. He also has good size and can be flat out "mean and nasty" on the football field. In four or five years you might be able to tell me I was dead wrong on this and I'll be man enough to eat crow, but I seriously don't think that'll be the case.
Redmen1
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(Brooks Barta, Jeff Simoneau, Mark Simoneau, and Justin Montgomery).
Those guys listed were evaluated & recruited by Snyder and many other schools though, and actually were offered a division one scholarship.
That's great BW works hard and is a good team player, but skills wise....it looks like he will be no help to us in this rebuilding process. :blank:
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You're right I am from Smith Center and yes, I'm probably biased. However, we've had some pretty good players go through the program at KSU (Brooks Barta, Jeff Simoneau, Mark Simoneau, and Justin Montgomery). All of these players were great Redmen players prior to wearing purple on Saturdays. Braden has all of the same qualities and the same work ethic of all of the aforementioned. He also has good size and can be flat out "mean and nasty" on the football field. In four or five years you might be able to tell me I was dead wrong on this and I'll be man enough to eat crow, but I seriously don't think that'll be the case.
Redmen1
Welcome to the board friend.
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i doubt he works hard. he wouldn't suck if he did.
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I'd like you tell him that and survive for another day! :rolleyes:
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Isn't it funny that Smith Center's mascot is a bag of chewing tabacco?
:santachimney:
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I'd like you tell him that and survive for another day! :rolleyes:
:'byecruelworld:
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maybe you shouldn't go out of your way to pimp a dude who's never stepped on the field, and didn't have a single scholarship offer out of high school. you didn't see me bragging about my sister who was a walk-on for KSU tennis. No, she sucked relative to college tennis.
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maybe you shouldn't go out of your way to pimp a dude who's never stepped on the field, and didn't have a single scholarship offer out of high school. you didn't see me bragging about my sister who was a walk-on for KSU tennis. No, she sucked relative to college tennis.
LOL at tennis.
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I'd like you tell him that and survive for another day! :rolleyes:
If he can't get pt on our defense, he probably can't beat anyone up either.
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I'd like you tell him that and survive for another day! :rolleyes:
If he can't get pt on our defense, he probably can't beat anyone up either.
He probably learned how to fight from fellow lb Hanson Sekona.
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:banghead:
Seriously, we haven't even landed a decent KANSAS kid in 3 years now. Our football program is filled with complete pieces of sh*t.
How about Braden Wilson who will be on scholarship in January? All he did in six weeks last summer was to place himself about 4 or 5th on the depth chart at a tightend position which he didn't even play in high school!
Redmen1
4th or 5th tight end? I don't even really know who our second tight end is. Mastrud was first string as a freshman, and he isn't even that good. Not really a great point in your argument... a fourth or fifth tight end isn't even worth a scholly imho.
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:banghead:
Seriously, we haven't even landed a decent KANSAS kid in 3 years now. Our football program is filled with complete pieces of sh*t.
How about Braden Wilson who will be on scholarship in January? All he did in six weeks last summer was to place himself about 4 or 5th on the depth chart at a tightend position which he didn't even play in high school!
Redmen1
4th or 5th tight end? I don't even really know who our second tight end is. Mastrud was first string as a freshman, and he isn't even that good. Not really a great point in your argument... a fourth or fifth tight end isn't even worth a scholly imho.
You wouldn't be saying that if our four best tight ends all got injured.
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I sure hope you guys are men enough to say I was right in a few years, just as I will do in the event that Braden is the wasted scholarship you profess him to be.
Redmen1
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I sure hope you guys are men enough to say I was right in a few years, just as I will do in the event that Braden is the wasted scholarship you profess him to be.
Redmen1
gopowercat.com
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I sure hope you guys are men enough to say I was right in a few years, just as I will do in the event that Braden is the wasted scholarship you profess him to be.
Redmen1
www.gopowercat.com
fyp
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I can't imagine a more Snydertard response to losing Brown than "we don't really want him".
Nice work, guys.
:lol:
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I sure hope you guys are men enough to say I was right in a few years, just as I will do in the event that Braden is the wasted scholarship you profess him to be.
Redmen1
www.gopowercat.com
fyp
You don't need www. dorkbox.
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I sure hope you guys are men enough to say I was right in a few years, just as I will do in the event that Braden is the wasted scholarship you profess him to be.
Redmen1
www.gopowercat.com
fyp
You don't need www. dorkbox.
Link
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I sure hope you guys are men enough to say I was right in a few years, just as I will do in the event that Braden is the wasted scholarship you profess him to be.
Redmen1
www.gopowercat.com
fyp
You don't need www. dorkbox.
Link
If he's talking about how awesome Braden Wilson is, I'm sure he doesn't need a link.
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I sure hope you guys are men enough to say I was right in a few years, just as I will do in the event that Braden is the wasted scholarship you profess him to be.
Redmen1
www.gopowercat.com
fyp
You don't need www. dorkbox.
Link
If he's talking about how awesome Braden Wilson is, I'm sure he doesn't need a link.
:thumbsup:
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it'd be nice to actually cheer for good players instead of pieces of sh*t.
but Keithen Valentine is just sooooo excited for this opportunity to play D-1a football!!!
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I sure hope you guys are men enough to say I was right in a few years, just as I will do in the event that Braden is the wasted scholarship you profess him to be.
Redmen1
You'll get tired of this board before that happens. I give you about 6 months before you label us all "bad fans" that KSU would be better off without.
TC/FP.
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I sure hope you guys are men enough to say I was right in a few years, just as I will do in the event that Braden is the wasted scholarship you profess him to be.
Redmen1
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/forum.asp?fid=419 (http://kansasstate.rivals.com/forum.asp?fid=419)
fyp
fyfyp
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Is Bryce Brown an Adrian Peterson? NO.
Most RB's are overrated by rivals. Who is UT's RB or OU's?
The pass game has eclipsed them.
In the Big 12. Not so much elsewhere.