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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: Oklahoma_Cat on November 28, 2008, 10:02:09 AM
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As I'm surrounded by mostly OU and UT fans, this has become extremely annoying.
Assuming that "Big Game Bob" doesn't choke and lose to the Pokes (and then beats Mizzou), should it be OU or UT ranked #2?
To me, it's a no-brainer. The BCS has set the precendent (with OU, mind you), that winning your conference isn't a main criteria of being in the championship game. Therefore, UT beat OU, so UT is the better team. You can't even argue with that, but OU fans still try.
I'm going to go ahead and say that UT will beat the Bama/Florida winner and take the National Championship, and Colt will win the Heisman....and OU fans will bitch and moan about it for a year.
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What happened in 2003 will not happen again, unless if a team doesn't win their conference is CLEARLY without a doubt the #2 team
IMO, OU would have a better shot at beating a SEC team, and OU is better now than UT
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I really think the Pokes will beat OU.
Weird feeling.
But let's say that OU wins, I still think that UT should be in the MNC.
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I really think the Pokes will beat OU.
Weird feeling.
But let's say that OU wins, I still think that UT should be in the MNC.
Agreed on both counts. It would be a shame to see OU go to the Big 12 Championship. Not because I don't think they'll beat Mizzou but because I think Texas is better. And traditionally speaking, OU will probably choke in their BCS game.
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Not even a debate, only a complete opcat would argue that OU is better than our rival.
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So by this arguement tech should go since they beat Texas, but ok beat tech so ok goes, but tx beat ok... :runaway:
Can we just have a fracking playoff.
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Tech has nothing to do with it...UT beat OU on a neutral site. Checkmate. Unfortunately for us living in Oklahoma, we get to hear constant whining from OU players, coaches, fans, and the local media about how the head-to-head shouldn't matter because they're 'better' now. (Dumb)
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Which team has the worst loss? UT. I'd also like to take in the final score of the OU/OSU game, too. If OU absolutely pounds OSU, then it's clear to me that OU is playing better now than UT.
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Which team has the worst loss? UT. I'd also like to take in the final score of the OU/OSU game, too. If OU absolutely pounds OSU, then it's clear to me that OU is playing better now than UT.
You need to read the post above yours that Oklahoma Cat just posted. Shouldn't matter what OU does to OSU. Maybe OSU and TECH were/are playing worse than they were earlier in the year? It's kind of a dumb argument that OU is playing better now. OU gets way too much hype as does USC and Ohio St. and blah blah blah. Something we'll all have to live with until a playoff happens.
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^^ Then why aren't we discussing TT as possible South champ and contender for the NC game? All have one loss, and apparently who and how they lost/won don't come into play, so why not TT?
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What would have happened if OU/Tex were sitting at 1 and 2 instead of 2 and 3 and stayed that way after conference championship games?
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Which team has the worst loss? UT. I'd also like to take in the final score of the OU/OSU game, too. If OU absolutely pounds OSU, then it's clear to me that OU is playing better now than UT.
Are you fracking kidding me? OU has a 10 point loss on a neutral field, UT a 6 point loss on the road. OU has the worst loss.
Again, there is no debate unless you're a tard.
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What would even be more awesome is if somehow missouri won the ccg. They would be big 12 champs and be at best the 3rd best team in the conference. I love chaos in the bcs. Doesn't matter though, cash money trumps all.
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What would have happened if OU/Tex were sitting at 1 and 2 instead of 2 and 3 and stayed that way after conference championship games?
The big 12 would count the money they made on the ccg and still call tech or mu big12 champs.
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I think that OU is better than TX if they beat OSU and MIZzou.
but tx won head to head. SOrry stuups.
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Which team has the worst loss? UT. I'd also like to take in the final score of the OU/OSU game, too. If OU absolutely pounds OSU, then it's clear to me that OU is playing better now than UT.
Are you fracking kidding me? OU has a 10 point loss on a neutral field, UT a 6 point loss on the road to a team far inferior to OU. UT has the worst loss.
Again, there is no debate unless you're a tard.
FYP
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I think that OU is better than TX if they beat OSU and MIZzou.
but tx won head to head. SOrry stuups.
You realize TX already beat OSU and MIZzou? Oh yeah, and OU?
This cross game analysis is stupid. Look at how OU struggled against uk and TX went into uk and stomped the crap out of them. I'll bet the farm that OU won't defeat MIZzou as badly as TX. It goes both ways.
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^^ Then why aren't we discussing TT as possible South champ and contender for the NC game? All have one loss, and apparently who and how they lost/won don't come into play, so why not TT?
We should be talking about Tech I suppose. They don't get the "pub" like OU or Texas and it just makes it that much harder on them. If they lose early in the year like a USC or OU and finish strong, they still wouldn't be sniffing a BCS game. All about the ratings draw.
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Which team has the worst loss? UT. I'd also like to take in the final score of the OU/OSU game, too. If OU absolutely pounds OSU, then it's clear to me that OU is playing better now than UT.
Are you fracking kidding me? OU has a 10 point loss on a neutral field, UT a 6 point loss on the road to a team far inferior to OU. UT has the worst loss.
Again, there is no debate unless you're a tard.
FYP
Far inferior? JFC you're dumb.
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What happened in 2003 will not happen again, unless if a team doesn't win their conference is CLEARLY without a doubt the #2 team
IMO, OU would have a better shot at beating a SEC team, and OU is better now than UT
It wasn't just a one-time thing, though. Nebraska didn't even win the NORTH back in 2001 and yet still got to play in the NC game.
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I think if they played again that OU would win handily. But that's just watching them on tv.
but tx should be ranked higher.
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Second chance tards are the best.
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Which team has the worst loss? UT. I'd also like to take in the final score of the OU/OSU game, too. If OU absolutely pounds OSU, then it's clear to me that OU is playing better now than UT.
Are you fracking kidding me? OU has a 10 point loss on a neutral field, UT a 6 point loss on the road to a team far inferior to OU. UT has the worst loss.
Again, there is no debate unless you're a tard.
FYP
Far inferior? JFC you're dumb.
Way to pick apart my statement. OU would beat TT 8 outta 10 times. UT would prolly split their games. TT proved they could beat UT. If you want to use your logic, I can argue for TT.
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you should just make a poll of who we think should play for the title.
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Way to pick apart my statement. OU would beat TT 8 outta 10 times. UT would prolly split their games. TT proved they could beat UT. If you want to use your logic, I can argue for TT.
What logic? You're just making crap up. :jerkoff:
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Don't forget that OU beat tcu and Cinn. (both ranked in top 20) pre-conf. while UT was beating up on UTEP.
Also, TIMING is a big part of it. Losing late in the season (UT) is worse than losing earlier (OU).
Also, UT's loss looks worse after OU kicked the tar out of Tech.
Tough call though, UT did beat OU, but there are a lot of other factors (^^^).
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but there are a lot of other factors (^^^).
Imaginary factors.
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but there are a lot of other factors (^^^).
Imaginary factors.
:confused: I was pointing to the factors mentioned above in my post.
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&@#% it, Tech should go. They have the head to head and same record as the team that CatsNCheifs has undeniable proof as the "best" team. TT beat them, they should go. Head to head. Proof. Undeniable. Hands down. etc, etc.
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No scenario should OU play in the national championship ahead of Texas.
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The only problem is is OU kills OSU then I would bet the farm that the computers move them ahead of Texas. If Texas Tech wins. That leaves a 3-way tie and OU wins because they would be higher in the BCS standings. BS I know but that's how it works. Now what would be funny is If OU goes to the Championship game loses to MU and Texas moves back up to #2 playing for the NC.
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Baylor can make this all moot... :lol:
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I think Texas should go. They had a brutal four game streak. They beat OU. They have backed off at the end of games (see last night) late in the season even though scoring 60-70+ might get some style points with voters.
Didn't the Big Televen break a first place tie for the league title (ultimately for the Rose Bowl) by sending the team that was furthest removed from their last appearance? If the Big 12 does that, TT would go.
Whatever happens, it's just another year for the left-out teams to whine about it, sometimes with justification.
Just be thankful that we don't have to deal with this kind of stuff with a 5-7 record.
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what about this senario?? Alabama loses, OU beats OSU and MU. Possible Big 12 #1 and #2 OU and Texas playing in the MNC. I know it would never happen, but is it crazy to think like that??
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What would even be more awesome is if somehow missouri won the ccg. They would be big 12 champs and be at best the 3rd best team in the conference. I love chaos in the bcs. Doesn't matter though, cash money trumps all.
Mizzou - not gonna happen next week in Arrowhead, no matter who of the three contenders they face.
The whole idea that there is more money to be made under the current BCS system than in a playoff is ridiculous. You essentially still have the BCS bowl games. In addition, I think there would be more interest and $$$ generated under a playoff system. You cannot tell me that the Orange Bowl - likely Cincinnati versus the ACC Champ - will generate more revenue than a playoff game would in its place.
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