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Title: Solomon Hill
Post by: The1BigWillie on November 24, 2008, 12:13:53 AM
Signing him in the spring puts us in a real spot for national contention in 2010.

2010 Starting 5!
G: Jacob Pullen, SR
G: Rodney McGruder, SO
G/F: Dom Sutton, SR
F: Wally Judge, SO
F: Curtis Kelly, SR

Bench
G: Nick Russell, SO
G: Will Spradling, FR
G: (TBA stud) or Fred Brown, SR
F: Jamar Samuels, JR
F: Solomon Hill, SO
F: Ron Anderson, SR
F: Tony Mitchell, FR
C: Jordan Henriquez, SO


Jeebus... we're gonna be &@#%ing good.
Title: Re: Solomon Hill
Post by: JTKSU on November 24, 2008, 12:24:21 AM
Signing him in the spring puts us in a real spot for national contention in 2010.

2010 Starting 5!
G: Jacob Pullen, SR
G: Rodney McGruder, SO
G/F: Dom Sutton, SR
F: Wally Judge, SO
F: Curtis Kelly, SR

Bench
G: Nick Russell, SO
G: Will Spradling, FR
G: (TBA stud) or Fred Brown, SR
F: Jamar Samuels, JR
F: Solomon Hill, SO
F: Ron Anderson, SR
F: Tony Mitchell, FR
C: Jordan Henriquez, SO


Jeebus... we're gonna be fracking good.


I can't imagine Samuels not starting by his junior year.  If he and Hill are back-ups in 2010, then I would definitely say we would be serious national title contenders.  Hell, that second team could probably go .500 in conference.
Title: Re: Solomon Hill
Post by: jscatfan on November 24, 2008, 12:55:28 AM
If we do get hill, which imo is a long shot, where is that scholarship coming from?  And is anyone hearing some other info other than what the other site is reporting?  What are our chances of landing him
Title: Re: Solomon Hill
Post by: A-Lishious on November 24, 2008, 01:09:27 AM
If that team is to be, in reality, something that does contend, you better hope Anderson or Samuals pick it up or Judge is the real deal pretty quick. If they arnt better then Kelly your Front line wont be much. Kelly may have been 5stars but ask any UCONN fan about him. Guy has no drive and didnt make any progress in two years. Id put Judge starting and that list and be alot happier with it. 
Title: Re: Solomon Hill
Post by: JTKSU on November 24, 2008, 01:10:06 AM
If we do get hill, which imo is a long shot, where is that scholarship coming from?  And is anyone hearing some other info other than what the other site is reporting?  What are our chances of landing him

It looks like Herrera won't be around for 2009.  Maybe we don't end up signing that juco kid in the spring after all.  Merriewether could possibly be awarded an academic schollie.  We could find a schollie for Hill if we had the opportunity to sign him.  The coaches must have some idea what to do to make it happen, otherwise I don't know why they would continue recruiting him. As far as whether we really have a shot at him, your guess is as good as anybody's.  He has a ton of really high quality programs after him.  Pretty hard to tell who is actually in the running for him.  Still pretty impressive to be mentioned with those other schools.
Title: Re: Solomon Hill
Post by: thefridge on November 24, 2008, 01:10:45 AM
i come to this thread thinking we had good news, this is just obvious banter (we'll be good if we sign this player...)

 post back when we have good news  :banghead:  :jerkoff:
Title: Re: Solomon Hill
Post by: A-Lishious on November 24, 2008, 01:11:30 AM
Edit; Judge AND Anderson/Samuels :users:
Title: Re: Solomon Hill
Post by: JTKSU on November 24, 2008, 01:18:57 AM
If that team is to be, in reality, something that does contend, you better hope Anderson or Samuals pick it up or Judge is the real deal pretty quick. If they arnt better then Kelly your Front line wont be much. Kelly may have been 5stars but ask any UCONN fan about him. Guy has no drive and didnt make any progress in two years. Id put Judge starting and that list and be alot happier with it. 

You guys just won a NC with Kaun at center.  You don't really need a dominant 5 in college basketball right now.  College basketball is all about guard play right now.  (See: Chalmers and RusRob.)   I'm sure Kelly/Judge/Henriquez/Anderson will be more than adequate down low.  (Anderson is probably better at this point in his career than Kaun was early in his sophomore year.)  That "fantasy" KSU team for 2010 would be every bit as talented as any in the country.  Of course, that certainly doesn't guarantee anything, but it'll get you invited to the prom.  Still, I doubt we land Hill; but even without him the 2010 squad could make a nice run in March.
Title: Re: Solomon Hill
Post by: AzCat on November 24, 2008, 01:20:50 AM
Kelly may have been 5stars but ask any UCONN fan about him. Guy has no drive and didnt make any progress in two years.

The sportswriters out that way were a bit more charitable saying that: he's a sure-fire NBA player if he decides to work hard enough to get there; he didn't fit well into the system at UConn; and he understands both that he's made mistakes and that KSU is his last chance.  Given how hard Frank rides his players I have to believe that Kelly will be much improved from his UConn days if he's still around next year. 
Title: Re: Solomon Hill
Post by: sys on November 24, 2008, 08:10:36 AM
That "fantasy" KSU team for 2010 would be every bit as talented as any in the country.

no need to be stupid about this.  tons of teams would be more talented.  hell, just in the big 12, ksu wouldn't be in the top 4 in talent.
Title: Re: Solomon Hill
Post by: yosh on November 24, 2008, 08:15:56 AM
Top 25 talent.  Which would be really nice for us.  If we sneak in a top 5 one-and-doner, then maybe we'll have something "elite", but I'd be happy with that roster anyway.
Title: Re: Solomon Hill
Post by: sys on November 24, 2008, 08:28:20 AM
Top 25 talent.  Which would be really nice for us.

oh yeah.  i'd be ecstatic w. the talent.  just not stupid about pretending it is comparable to schools that roll 5 stars in and out every year.
Title: Re: Solomon Hill
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 24, 2008, 08:30:14 AM
Top 25 talent.  Which would be really nice for us.

oh yeah.  i'd be ecstatic w. the talent.  just not stupid about pretending it is comparable to schools that roll 5 stars in and out every year.

yeah, it's really annoyng. like we are the only school recruiting or something.

:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Solomon Hill
Post by: michigancat on November 24, 2008, 08:31:01 AM
Top 25 talent.  Which would be really nice for us.

oh yeah.  i'd be ecstatic w. the talent.  just not stupid about pretending it is comparable to schools that roll 5 stars in and out every year.

It would definitely be top 4 in the league, though.
Title: Re: Solomon Hill
Post by: sys on November 24, 2008, 08:35:33 AM
It would definitely be top 4 in the league, though.

no.  ut, ku are definately ahead.  ou is v. likely ahead (have to assume capel will kick ass in replacing losses in the '10 class).  after that it is much closer, but you can easily make the argument for either osu or baylor (or both) over ksu.
Title: Re: Solomon Hill
Post by: michigancat on November 24, 2008, 08:39:49 AM
It would definitely be top 4 in the league, though.

no.  ut, ku are definately ahead.  ou is v. likely ahead (have to assume capel will kick ass in replacing losses in the '10 class).  after that it is much closer, but you can easily make the argument for either osu or baylor (or both) over ksu.

W/ hill, we are def. ahead of OSU and BU. 
Title: Re: Solomon Hill
Post by: westcoast_ksufan on November 24, 2008, 11:04:54 AM
Hill is pretty legit, saw him play last year for Fairfax vs. Westchester at Loyola Marymount. Needs to work on his shot but is physical and would fit in perfect with KSU's philosophy of defense and rebounding. This would be a huge pickup  :ksu: but I think he will stay at home and go to USC, don't know if UCLA is recruiting him, but he would be a great fit for that program as well.
Title: Re: Solomon Hill
Post by: sys on November 24, 2008, 04:00:07 PM
W/ hill, we are def. ahead of OSU and BU. 

you're wrong.  looking at them a little more closely, i'd say probably bu>ksu>osu (could change depending on the class of 2010).


bu really is clearly in front of ksu or osu.
Title: Re: Solomon Hill
Post by: sys on November 24, 2008, 09:04:14 PM
baylor and osu 2010-2011 rosters as of now.  using rivals rankings for simplicity.


Baylor

senior
Dunn 46
Udoh nr 3 star

junior
Jones 44
Acy 84
Ellis nr 3 star

soph
Jefferson 33
Walton 132
Crump 142

frosh
Jones 13
Turner nr 3 star

three open 2009 and 2010 ‘ships



OSU

senior
Anderson 32
Moses 115
Thomas nr 3 star
Sidorakis nr 3 star
Kirkland nr 3 star

junior
Page nr 3 star

soph
Johnson 45
Penn 54
Franklin 90
Dowell 135
Gulley nr 3 star
Walker nr 3 star

no freshmen

one open 2010 ‘ship
Title: Re: Solomon Hill
Post by: yosh on November 24, 2008, 09:48:37 PM
Pretty comparable.  Really, kinda silly because '10 is barely underway, and the current rankings for '10 are nothing close to what they will look like in two years.  Right now, we look better in 09 from a 'cruitn' standpoint with ranked clemente and Herrera and minus unranked Spradling & Mitchell.