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Title: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: michigancat on November 19, 2008, 09:40:27 PM
Who was the last player we had, that was as athletic as Sutton, and worked as hard as he does?

:dunno:
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: yosh on November 19, 2008, 09:41:53 PM
Terence Newman?   :dunno:
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: hemmy on November 19, 2008, 09:46:28 PM
:dunno:
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: Pett on November 19, 2008, 09:48:04 PM
Massey. :skillz:
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: doom on November 19, 2008, 09:50:38 PM
Massey. :skillz:

Who was the last player we had, that was as athletic as Sutton, and worked as hard as he does?

:dunno:
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: Pett on November 19, 2008, 09:52:28 PM
Who was the last player we had, that was as athletic as Sutton, and worked as hard as he does?

:dunno:


Oh, I didn't understand the question. I change my answer to:

Hughes. :block:
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: sys on November 19, 2008, 10:15:06 PM
pretty much every juco altman recruited.  not so frequent since.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: PoetWarrior on November 19, 2008, 10:30:07 PM
Amazing people are still coming around on this.

Update: Samuels is also incredibly athletic. Just in case there was still some debate and people were slow to come around.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: PoetWarrior on November 19, 2008, 10:31:01 PM
Massey. :skillz:

Not even close.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: pissclams on November 19, 2008, 10:35:52 PM
Who was the last player we had, that was as athletic as Sutton, and worked as hard as he does?

:dunno:
first player that comes to mind is belvis.  same body type, a bit different type of player.  sutton much more upside.  both athletic as hell.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: chum1 on November 19, 2008, 10:37:40 PM
pretty much every juco altman recruited.  not so frequent since.

Agree.  It's just been a while.  And it's not like he's one of the best athletes in the conference or anything either.  
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: Skydog on November 19, 2008, 11:03:07 PM
Sutton is a freak athlete. Love it.

More athletic than Bill?
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: JTKSU on November 19, 2008, 11:24:04 PM
pretty much every juco altman recruited.  not so frequent since.

Agree.  It's just been a while.  And it's not like he's one of the best athletes in the conference or anything either.  

If you're talking just plain freak athleticism, I'd put Sutton up there with anyone in the conference.  Dude looks like a freaking gazelle out there.  Not to say he's one of the best basketball players though. 
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: michigancat on November 20, 2008, 06:39:40 AM
Who was the last player we had, that was as athletic as Sutton, and worked as hard as he does?

:dunno:
first player that comes to mind is belvis.  same body type, a bit different type of player.  sutton much more upside.  both athletic as hell.

He also blew out his knee or something.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: steve dave on November 20, 2008, 07:37:47 AM
Amazing people are still coming around on this.

Update: Samuels is also incredibly athletic. Just in case there was still some debate and people were slow to come around.

We were all talking about it early last season while you were hanging out with your BFF Ron Prince  :dunno:
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: ECN on November 20, 2008, 10:17:36 AM
sutton is one of those super athletic d00ds that cant shoot 10 feet out.

uk has a hall of fame for guys like that.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: yoga-lika_abana on November 20, 2008, 10:18:49 AM
Sutton is a freak athlete. Love it.

More athletic than Bill?
WAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY.....Sutton is a freak.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: ECN on November 20, 2008, 10:22:30 AM
bill was just lazy. and could stroke a 3.

Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: ksu_FAN on November 20, 2008, 10:24:21 AM
Who was the last player we had, that was as athletic as Sutton, and worked as hard as he does?

:dunno:
first player that comes to mind is belvis.  same body type, a bit different type of player.  sutton much more upside.  both athletic as hell.

QFT.  

But we only got Noland as a JR/SR.  Sutton has a ton more upside.  Belvis was a little thicker and more of a bruiser, but the last comparable athlete that I remember in purple.  Of course a lot get blocked out from the "unathletic era" of K-State basketball.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: ECN on November 20, 2008, 10:25:09 AM
samuels is damn near close to sutton on the freak level
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: kougar24 on November 20, 2008, 10:39:16 AM
Gotta admit, almost getting your own rebound in air after missing a breakaway dunk is pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: Skydog on November 20, 2008, 12:24:49 PM
samuels is damn near close to sutton on the freak level

No way. He's a good athlete but he doesn't have the freak athleticism that Sutton has.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: ECN on November 20, 2008, 12:49:02 PM
liar.

both hustle. steal. dunk and cant shoot.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: sys on November 20, 2008, 01:20:20 PM
both hustle. steal. dunk and cant shoot.

samuels isn't close to sutton as an athlete.  being athletic is more than just jumping.  sutton has everything.  samuels just jumps well.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: Skydog on November 20, 2008, 02:44:40 PM
And Samuels is all gangly and what not. Sutton just looks like an athlete, Samuels looks... tall.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: ECN on November 20, 2008, 02:51:47 PM
both hustle. steal. dunk and cant shoot.

samuels isn't close to sutton as an athlete.  being athletic is more than just jumping.  sutton has everything.  samuels just jumps well.

sutton does NOT have a consistent jumper
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: Skydog on November 20, 2008, 02:57:20 PM
both hustle. steal. dunk and cant shoot.

samuels isn't close to sutton as an athlete.  being athletic is more than just jumping.  sutton has everything.  samuels just jumps well.

sutton does NOT have a consistent jumper

I think he meant athletically... like, Sutton has great body control etc.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: ECN on November 20, 2008, 02:58:05 PM
oh
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: ksu_FAN on November 20, 2008, 03:01:11 PM
Isn't "athletic" relative to height?  I mean at 6-8 it will look dif than 6-4.  Its not like Samuels is Joe Leonard.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: JTKSU on November 20, 2008, 03:04:12 PM
both hustle. steal. dunk and cant shoot.

samuels isn't close to sutton as an athlete.  being athletic is more than just jumping.  sutton has everything.  samuels just jumps well.

sutton does NOT have a consistent jumper

I think he meant athletically... like, Sutton has great body control etc.

I don't think I would use that phrase to decribe JamSam.  His body can do some amazing things, but he does seem to be slightly out of control at all times.  He's like a new born deer, still trying to get used to his legs.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: mcmwcat on November 20, 2008, 03:45:07 PM
both hustle. steal. dunk and cant shoot.

samuels isn't close to sutton as an athlete.  being athletic is more than just jumping.  sutton has everything.  samuels just jumps well.

everything = lateral movement, quick first step, strength, jumping, top speed, hit for power, etc.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: PoetWarrior on November 20, 2008, 06:42:09 PM
Sutton is the most flexible/fluid human being I've ever seen.

Samuels for his size is basically as good as they get.

And yes, it is more than jumping.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: Skydog on November 20, 2008, 07:07:28 PM
both hustle. steal. dunk and cant shoot.

samuels isn't close to sutton as an athlete.  being athletic is more than just jumping.  sutton has everything.  samuels just jumps well.

sutton does NOT have a consistent jumper

I think he meant athletically... like, Sutton has great body control etc.

I don't think I would use that phrase to decribe JamSam.  His body can do some amazing things, but he does seem to be slightly out of control at all times.  He's like a new born deer, still trying to get used to his legs.

qft
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: PoetWarrior on November 20, 2008, 09:06:11 PM
You don't have to have great body control to be a great athlete.

Lots of freak athletes are actually lacking in that area.

It's a bonus for Sutton.

But at the same time, Samuels is not uncoordinated, which is somewhat implied by him being "out of control".
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: feralchat on November 20, 2008, 09:50:37 PM
Cunningham. Hardest worker on a hardworking Altman team. Micky Ds all-american athleticism.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: Bill Walker on November 21, 2008, 12:34:16 PM
Sutton is a'ight. in practice he would be really athletic. but come game time, he would just lay down.

i just talked to him before some florida somethin' game and he said he feels more comfortable not bein in anyones shadow an all.

he will be a different playa this year. wait an see.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: Butt Fugly on November 21, 2008, 02:59:39 PM
Sutton is a'ight. in practice he would be really athletic. but come game time, he would just lay down.

i just talked to him before some florida somethin' game and he said he feels more comfortable not bein in anyones shadow an all.

he will be a different playa this year. wait an see.


:eyeseeyou:

Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: blackman-era-front-rower on February 03, 2009, 02:00:43 PM
(http://www.kstatecollegian.com/polopoly_fs/1.1338844!image/3534401165.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_260/3534401165.jpg)
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: mcmwcat on February 03, 2009, 02:48:33 PM
sutton looking to have a huge game against the neckclones   he's due.  wonder if he'll be tasked w/ trying to stop brackins.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: steve dave on February 03, 2009, 02:50:26 PM
sutton looking to have a huge game against the neckclones   he's due.  wonder if he'll be tasked w/ trying to stop brackins.

he said he would not be.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: PoetWarrior on February 03, 2009, 04:17:25 PM
(http://www.kstatecollegian.com/polopoly_fs/1.1338844!image/3534401165.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_260/3534401165.jpg)

Dude's flexible.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: sys on February 03, 2009, 04:18:40 PM
Dude's flexible.

definitely fuels the imagination.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: chum1 on February 03, 2009, 04:21:37 PM
Pretty poor demonstration of flexibility.  PW is even terrible at being PW.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: SUPERKSUFAN on February 03, 2009, 04:42:39 PM
isn't that the one that he got T'd up for?
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: A-Lishious on February 03, 2009, 07:25:58 PM
Dave Hoskins... Dude was a 6'4 brick who played the four damn well. He was built and never got tired - even under Huggins who was known for his destructive practices.

He may not of had the athletic prowess of Sutton, but his basketball abilities (especially on the offensive end) and work ethic put him in the conversation...
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: nicname on February 03, 2009, 10:42:21 PM
Jamar had a tremendously athletic play tonight.

1.  He intercepted the pass on the wing.

2.  He took it coast to coast with the dribble.

3.  He weaved around the ISU defender for an up and under layup.

My reaction was first "Holy Chit, who was that"  Then I saw it was JamSam.  The next thing I said was, "Samuels is a freak." :kstatriot:
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: pissclams on February 03, 2009, 10:45:59 PM
he's 6'7".  shouldn't he be making those plays?
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: catdude33 on February 03, 2009, 10:49:08 PM
Good to see Sutton make some offensive moves today in the half court.  Good to see.
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: blackman-era-front-rower on February 04, 2009, 01:35:04 PM
(http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr58/catchick/DSC_0030-2.jpg?t=1233741599)
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: punkindrublic on February 04, 2009, 04:04:14 PM
bill walker..? maybe didnt work as hard though
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: blackman-era-front-rower on February 09, 2009, 01:04:57 PM
(http://photos-e.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v314/216/121/598397259/n598397259_1273756_9414.jpg)
Title: Re: Sutton is really athletic
Post by: Bookcat on February 09, 2009, 07:51:54 PM
Sutton vs. A&M was funny to watch.

Sometimes he's just capable of playing like a turd......a large, muscle filled, high flying, turd.