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Title: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: McGrowlTowelZac on November 09, 2008, 05:04:47 PM
I don't get it.  I'm all about some JMart, but I got no real beef with Fitz.  I know GPC is looked down on around here, but I guess I just don't get all the hate.
I realize he shouldn't have went with the story without checking in with Krause or Patterson's agent, but I am willing to bet that he had a credible source.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: michigancat on November 09, 2008, 05:06:24 PM
Obviously he didn't have a credible source.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: jmlynch1 on November 09, 2008, 05:08:19 PM
The Fitz Fiasco is just what this site needed IMO. We haven't had a nice scape goating since Stew graduated.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: dr00d on November 09, 2008, 05:10:58 PM
I don't get it.  I'm all about some JMart, but I got no real beef with Fitz.  I know GPC is looked down on around here, but I guess I just don't get all the hate.
I realize he shouldn't have went with the story without checking in with Krause or Patterson's agent, but I am willing to bet that he had a credible source.

why is this in the basketball forum?
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: McGrowlTowelZac on November 09, 2008, 05:14:35 PM
I had just got done reading the Fitz bashing from the Courtside post
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: steve dave on November 09, 2008, 05:23:20 PM
Whats with all the Fitz hate?

He's a known sh^t human being for starters
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: chum1 on November 09, 2008, 05:45:47 PM
Why did he retract the story?  If he thought he had a good source, why not stand by it?

I have absolutely no idea, but I sort of like to imagine that Bob Krause called him and totally ripped into him, causing him to cave.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: catchup on November 09, 2008, 05:55:28 PM
He did stand by his source read the apology. I bet JMart would have run with it too, givn the same info.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: leroylulu on November 09, 2008, 05:56:50 PM
Don't you dare compare J-Mart with Fitz.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: chum1 on November 09, 2008, 06:05:50 PM
The story was retracted. 

It seems that everyone else did have the same info.  They just didn't use it as basis for breaking that news.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: ThisIsHappening on November 09, 2008, 11:54:52 PM
Its funny all of the hatred for this man...considering a high percentage of linked stories and information on these boards come directly from his website. 

I can understand the disdain for this newest scenario, but its funny how everyone's reason for hating him is that he is a crapty human being, and thats all that is ever said.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: CatDubs on November 10, 2008, 12:17:03 AM
Are you "him"?    :peek:
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2008, 07:33:17 AM
When Jeff or Meek break a story he takes credit for it (< sh^t human being).
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: leawoodcat on November 10, 2008, 08:41:39 AM
Obviously he didn't have a credible source.

Rusty, surely you are not that naive (or maybe I'm not catching your sarcasm).
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: michigancat on November 10, 2008, 08:49:59 AM
Obviously he didn't have a credible source.

Rusty, surely you are not that naive (or maybe I'm not catching your sarcasm).

If he had a credible source, he wouldn't have been forced to pull the story.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: doom on November 10, 2008, 08:52:43 AM
Obviously he didn't have a credible source.

Rusty, surely you are not that naive (or maybe I'm not catching your sarcasm).

If he had a credible source, he wouldn't have been forced to pull the story.

Sure he would have.

BK:  Pull the story or I'll kill your family.
TF:  Yesuhm massuh.
 
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: catzacker on November 10, 2008, 09:05:49 AM
I'm sure Fitz heard just like, apparently, everyone else in the media, but unlike the rest of the media, Fitz ran with this even though he couldn’t' get anyone official to say it was a done deal.....and you want to know why?  Because no head coach, NONE, announces he's leaving to take another job before the regular season is over.  And for him not to recognize that is what makes it so terrible. 

Further, what makes him going with this story so hypocritical is that Fitz and his staff know or have sources that have told them all kinds of sh*t that has gone on in Ron Prince's program and they have remained silent, dead silent. Why?  Because they know that (a) they could never get an official person to go on record and (b) they knew what it'd do to the football program.  How many times does something break from J-mart or Meek and Fitz says "we knew this but weren't for sure so we didn't say anything".  But all of a sudden NOW it's okay to run with it? 

Which leads to the real reason why this time Fitz ran with it:  because he was tired of getting his ass handed to him on breaking KSU news by J-Mart, Meek, and whomever else has an internet connection, because this site appears that it might up the anty on actual KSU news......he knew all of this and wanted to be the first...well...great Tim, you're the first, make sure to take credit in some terrible commercial for breaking the "Snyder to come out of retirement to coach the Cats because I"m a complete douche and broke a story 2 weeks to early" story.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2008, 09:09:49 AM
To all paying GPC members:  When was the last time Fitz told you something first that you couldn't get for free somewhere else?  What is one thing, ONE, that he provides as far as media coverage that you can't get for free.  He doesn't know a thing about Xs and Os so he can't even provide proper insight in his 4 weekly keys to the game garbage peices.  If there were no message boards on his site it would be complete f^cking trash.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: sys on November 10, 2008, 11:56:47 AM
To all paying GPC members:  When was the last time Fitz told you something first that you couldn't get for free somewhere else?

i'd say 2-5 times a year gates will update some bball recruit that isn't getting updated nationally.  obviously, that recruit is usually either a scrub or really young, but still, not available elsewhere.

oth, the national rivals staff does a good job on top 150 (maybe even top 250?) type recruits.  prolly worth somewhere between .25-.50 of what gpc charges for their info.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2008, 12:04:27 PM
To all paying GPC members:  When was the last time Fitz told you something first that you couldn't get for free somewhere else?

i'd say 2-5 times a year gates will update some bball recruit that isn't getting updated nationally.  obviously, that recruit is usually either a scrub or really young, but still, not available elsewhere.

oth, the national rivals staff does a good job on top 150 (maybe even top 250?) type recruits.  prolly worth somewhere between .25-.50 of what gpc charges for their info.

Yeah, the rivals national guys are good at hoops coverage.  I bet the ku rivals site is pretty good as well.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: michigancat on November 10, 2008, 12:07:58 PM
I would suggest that anyone who dislikes fitz, but really likes Rivals content register on jayhawk slant.  That way Fitz doesn't get the subscribers, and you can get super secret ku info.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 10, 2008, 12:11:10 PM
I would suggest that anyone who dislikes fitz, but really likes Rivals content register on jayhawk slant.  That way Fitz doesn't get the subscribers, and you can get super secret ku info.

or share an account w/3 others.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: michigancat on November 10, 2008, 12:13:02 PM
I would suggest that anyone who dislikes fitz, but really likes Rivals content register on jayhawk slant.  That way Fitz doesn't get the subscribers, and you can get super secret ku info.

or share an account w/3 others.

on jayhawk slant, fitzlover.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: ThisIsHappening on November 10, 2008, 01:02:53 PM
To all paying GPC members:  When was the last time Fitz told you something first that you couldn't get for free somewhere else?  What is one thing, ONE, that he provides as far as media coverage that you can't get for free.  He doesn't know a thing about Xs and Os so he can't even provide proper insight in his 4 weekly keys to the game garbage peices.  If there were no message boards on his site it would be complete f^cking trash.

True, just easier to get all that "crap" in one place, as opposed to having to be super awesome at finding it on my own.  Also old people (my dad) love spending money on as much k-state, emaw, and purple crap they can get their hands on.

Other media outlets do give great coverage, with better journalism and analysis, but his site does put out more info than any other outlet.

The cannonblog can be okay, and at least makes you feel like you are getting inside info, somtimes.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 10, 2008, 01:03:54 PM
To all paying GPC members:  When was the last time Fitz told you something first that you couldn't get for free somewhere else?  What is one thing, ONE, that he provides as far as media coverage that you can't get for free.  He doesn't know a thing about Xs and Os so he can't even provide proper insight in his 4 weekly keys to the game garbage peices.  If there were no message boards on his site it would be complete f^cking trash.

True, just easier to get all that "crap" in one place, as opposed to having to be super awesome at finding it on my own.  Also old people (my dad) love spending money on as much k-state, emaw, and purple crap they can get their hands on.

Other media outlets do give great coverage, with better journalism and analysis, but his site does put out more info than any other outlet.

The cannonblog can be okay, and at least makes you feel like you are getting inside info, somtimes.

people pay for the message board, not for his content.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: ThisIsHappening on November 10, 2008, 01:06:42 PM
To all paying GPC members:  When was the last time Fitz told you something first that you couldn't get for free somewhere else?  What is one thing, ONE, that he provides as far as media coverage that you can't get for free.  He doesn't know a thing about Xs and Os so he can't even provide proper insight in his 4 weekly keys to the game garbage peices.  If there were no message boards on his site it would be complete f^cking trash.

True, just easier to get all that "crap" in one place, as opposed to having to be super awesome at finding it on my own.  Also old people (my dad) love spending money on as much k-state, emaw, and purple crap they can get their hands on.

Other media outlets do give great coverage, with better journalism and analysis, but his site does put out more info than any other outlet.

The cannonblog can be okay, and at least makes you feel like you are getting inside info, somtimes.

people pay for the message board, not for his content.

oh for sure...
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: pwrcat1 on November 10, 2008, 01:07:38 PM
F*ck fitz and f*ck his lame board. 
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: sys on November 10, 2008, 02:20:37 PM
I would suggest that anyone who dislikes fitz, but really likes Rivals content register on jayhawk slant.  That way Fitz doesn't get the subscribers, and you can get super secret ku info.

that's a good idea.  would also be fun ku socking on the natl recruiting board.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: michigancat on November 10, 2008, 02:22:19 PM
I would suggest that anyone who dislikes fitz, but really likes Rivals content register on jayhawk slant.  That way Fitz doesn't get the subscribers, and you can get super secret ku info.

that's a good idea.  would also be fun ku socking on the natl recruiting board.

Also, someone would prob. pay attention to your questions about hoops recruits on that board (even KSU ones).
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: sys on November 10, 2008, 02:24:24 PM
Also, someone would prob. pay attention to your questions about hoops recruits on that board (even KSU ones).

meyer just answered my j. goodman question, asshole.

Quote
Certainly looks the part- long and pretty athletic. He was playing 16-under with a very good DC Assault team so when he did play he didn't get a lot of opportunities. Will need to see him more to get an accurate gauge on him as a prospect. But I definitely saw a lot of potential in a young prospect.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: sys on November 10, 2008, 02:37:03 PM
hoops recruits

i don't want to start a new topic on this, 'cause must people don't care ( :confused:).


but, really happy to see snaer cut mu.  anderson needed him.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: michigancat on November 10, 2008, 02:38:55 PM
hoops recruits

i don't want to start a new topic on this, 'cause must people don't care ( :confused:).


but, really happy to see snaer cut mu.  anderson needed him.

Exc. news.  I remember when DeArmond was basically calling Snaer an MU lock after Dixon commited (back when Dixon was top 100).


Nothing makes me happier than Nortard failure.  All we really need are some "we can't recruit here" quotes from CMA and he will be 100% SLTHylicious.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: Sal Paradise on November 10, 2008, 03:16:05 PM
How are people still apologizing for that fat faced fracker. :curse: Everything about that guy sucks.  The fact that he's on that ridiculous cookie diet, friends with Kietzman, wears a bandana and acts like he's the voice of the University by being on The Drive infuriates the $hit out of me.  Him and his minions (powertards) should be dragged across a field and fracked.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: power4PURPLE on November 10, 2008, 05:17:49 PM
I've stuck up for GPC recently and I'm not about to go into more detail about why everyone should lay off. If you've read the threads I've posted on, you know by now.

All that I will say is that I do know the sources, and I'm 100% positive you all would lay off the trash talk/hatred and call them credible if you knew who they were as well. Knowing what I do (and trust me folks it's killing me not to open my mouth, but my job/career in general would be :flush: if I were to say a peep) I'm pretty sure anybody else in Fitz's shoes would've done the same thing. Period.  :-X
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: michigancat on November 10, 2008, 05:27:40 PM
I've stuck up for GPC recently and I'm not about to go into more detail about why everyone should lay off. If you've read the threads I've posted on, you know by now.

All that I will say is that I do know the sources, and I'm 100% positive you all would lay off the trash talk/hatred and call them credible if you knew who they were as well. Knowing what I do (and trust me folks it's killing me not to open my mouth, but my job/career in general would be :flush: if I were to say a peep) I'm pretty sure anybody else in Fitz's shoes would've done the same thing. Period.  :-X

I call bullsh*t.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: power4PURPLE on November 10, 2008, 05:31:11 PM
I've stuck up for GPC recently and I'm not about to go into more detail about why everyone should lay off. If you've read the threads I've posted on, you know by now.

All that I will say is that I do know the sources, and I'm 100% positive you all would lay off the trash talk/hatred and call them credible if you knew who they were as well. Knowing what I do (and trust me folks it's killing me not to open my mouth, but my job/career in general would be :flush: if I were to say a peep) I'm pretty sure anybody else in Fitz's shoes would've done the same thing. Period.  :-X

I call bullsh*t.

haha fair enough. but remember i work there. and i was present at PI on friday.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: doom on November 10, 2008, 05:51:48 PM
I've stuck up for GPC recently and I'm not about to go into more detail about why everyone should lay off. If you've read the threads I've posted on, you know by now.

All that I will say is that I do know the sources, and I'm 100% positive you all would lay off the trash talk/hatred and call them credible if you knew who they were as well. Knowing what I do (and trust me folks it's killing me not to open my mouth, but my job/career in general would be :flush: if I were to say a peep) I'm pretty sure anybody else in Fitz's shoes would've done the same thing. Period.  :-X

I call bullsh*t.

haha fair enough. but remember i work there. and i was present at PI on friday.

That would be awesome.  Were you guys running around ripping the fixtures out to sell them, or hiding scissors and other sharp objects?
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: chum1 on November 10, 2008, 05:54:26 PM
Fitz is a dumbf*ck independent of his sources, no matter how good they are.  What the f*ck is so hard to understand about that?

Also, if the source is so great, why pull the story?
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: doom on November 10, 2008, 06:20:50 PM
Fitz is a dumbf*ck independent of his sources, no matter how good they are.  What the f*ck is so hard to understand about that?

Also, if the source is so great, why pull the story?

This is not a good argument imo.  Seriously, he was probably called by the agents and Krause and told that if he wanted two pesos to rub together (from the agents) or any access to staff or players (Krause)  he'd better pull it and that right soon.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: chum1 on November 10, 2008, 06:27:39 PM
That still entails he's a dumbf*ck.  Good argument.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: McGrowlTowelZac on November 10, 2008, 07:16:22 PM
I'm sure Fitz heard just like, apparently, everyone else in the media, but unlike the rest of the media, Fitz ran with this even though he couldn’t' get anyone official to say it was a done deal.....and you want to know why?  Because no head coach, NONE, announces he's leaving to take another job before the regular season is over.  And for him not to recognize that is what makes it so terrible. 

Further, what makes him going with this story so hypocritical is that Fitz and his staff know or have sources that have told them all kinds of sh*t that has gone on in Ron Prince's program and they have remained silent, dead silent. Why?  Because they know that (a) they could never get an official person to go on record and (b) they knew what it'd do to the football program.  How many times does something break from J-mart or Meek and Fitz says "we knew this but weren't for sure so we didn't say anything".  But all of a sudden NOW it's okay to run with it? 

Which leads to the real reason why this time Fitz ran with it:  because he was tired of getting his ass handed to him on breaking KSU news by J-Mart, Meek, and whomever else has an internet connection, because this site appears that it might up the anty on actual KSU news......he knew all of this and wanted to be the first...well...great Tim, you're the first, make sure to take credit in some terrible commercial for breaking the "Snyder to come out of retirement to coach the Cats because I"m a complete douche and broke a story 2 weeks to early" story.

So Fitz is human afterall, shocker.

I am just happy to have the privledge of posting on a board where so many are without fault and ready to cast the first stone.

Seriously, though I think people just hate him cause they're racist.  :eyeseeyou:
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: catzacker on November 10, 2008, 07:47:33 PM
I'm sure Fitz heard just like, apparently, everyone else in the media, but unlike the rest of the media, Fitz ran with this even though he couldn’t' get anyone official to say it was a done deal.....and you want to know why?  Because no head coach, NONE, announces he's leaving to take another job before the regular season is over.  And for him not to recognize that is what makes it so terrible. 

Further, what makes him going with this story so hypocritical is that Fitz and his staff know or have sources that have told them all kinds of sh*t that has gone on in Ron Prince's program and they have remained silent, dead silent. Why?  Because they know that (a) they could never get an official person to go on record and (b) they knew what it'd do to the football program.  How many times does something break from J-mart or Meek and Fitz says "we knew this but weren't for sure so we didn't say anything".  But all of a sudden NOW it's okay to run with it? 

Which leads to the real reason why this time Fitz ran with it:  because he was tired of getting his ass handed to him on breaking KSU news by J-Mart, Meek, and whomever else has an internet connection, because this site appears that it might up the anty on actual KSU news......he knew all of this and wanted to be the first...well...great Tim, you're the first, make sure to take credit in some terrible commercial for breaking the "Snyder to come out of retirement to coach the Cats because I"m a complete douche and broke a story 2 weeks to early" story.

So Fitz is human afterall, shocker.

I am just happy to have the privledge of posting on a board where so many are without fault and ready to cast the first stone.

Seriously, though I think people just hate him cause they're racist.  :eyeseeyou:


a human piece of sh*t.  I've never, ever, ever put a KSU program (from volleyball to football) in jeopardy of losing a coach that it was after.  Can Fitz say that?  So yeah, I'm f'ing lobbing boulders.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: michigancat on November 10, 2008, 08:11:28 PM

I am just happy to have the privledge of posting on a board where so many are without fault and ready to cast the first stone.


When it comes to f*cking up KSU coaching searches...yeah, there's a lot here who are without fault.

Fitz:  notsomuch.
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: jmlynch1 on November 10, 2008, 08:23:36 PM

I am just happy to have the privledge of posting on a board where so many are without fault and ready to cast the first stone.


When it comes to f*cking up KSU coaching searches...yeah, there's a lot here who are without fault.

Fitz:  notsomuch.
lol
Title: Re: Whats with all the Fitz hate?
Post by: kst8cat on November 10, 2008, 10:47:23 PM

I am just happy to have the privledge of posting on a board where so many are without fault and ready to cast the first stone.


When it comes to f*cking up KSU coaching searches...yeah, there's a lot here who are without fault.

Fitz:  notsomuch.

I hate to admit it, but it was my fault that Prince was hired.  I do apologize for this, but at the same time I thought I had a credible source.  GP would have come here then for a lot less money, but I sabotaged that idea.   :blindfold: