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Title: New Computer Parts List
Post by: pissclams on October 14, 2008, 02:45:26 PM
Ok so my computer died a couple months ago and I've been trying to decide on how I want to replace it. 
Ideas so far:

Option 1)  iMac - I decided against this.  Don't want to learn something new (OSX) and they're overpriced.
Option 2)  Sony Vaio VGC-LV150J (http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665507563) - Still might get this, overpriced and underpowered though.  Love the all-in-one design and "media center" system.

Option 3)  Custom Build- here's the parts list I've come up with-

Mobo
GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #:GA-EP35-DS3L
Item #:N82E16813128337
$89.99 -$5.00 Instant $84.99

VGU   
VisionTek 900244 Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
Model #:900244
Item #:N82E16814129113
$269.99

PSU   
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Model #:CMPSU-650TX
Item #:N82E16817139005
$159.99 -$60.00 Instant $99.99

CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8400
Model #:BX80570E8400
Item #:N82E16819115037
$169.99

Memory   
2 x G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ
Model #:F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ
Item #:N82E16820231145
$97.99 -$30.00 Instant $135.98

HDD   
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
Model #:WD6400AAKS
Item #:N82E16822136218
$74.99

Optical Drive
LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model DH-20A4P-04
Model #:DH-20A4P-04
Item #:N82E16827106228
$22.99

Subtotal: $858.92

I already have a case I want to use.

Thoughts?   :confused:


Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: steve dave on October 14, 2008, 03:09:05 PM
Seems kinda pricey for a build.  You can have one made with arguably better components for that and get a warranty for good measure.  I don't know, just  Two Cents
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: Skydog on October 14, 2008, 03:12:40 PM
Only nerds build their own computers...

You--------> :nerd:
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: pissclams on October 14, 2008, 03:25:40 PM
Seems kinda pricey for a build.  You can have one made with arguably better components for that and get a warranty for good measure.  I don't know, just  Two Cents
no you can't.  unless you know someone who's willing to take a loss on the components/labor.
there may be some savings found from shopping outside of newegg, i mostly put that info there to get a directionally correct price estimate
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: steve dave on October 14, 2008, 03:26:33 PM
Seems kinda pricey for a build.  You can have one made with arguably better components for that and get a warranty for good measure.  I don't know, just  Two Cents
no you can't.  unless you know someone who's willing to take a loss on the components/labor.
there may be some savings found from shopping outside of newegg, i mostly put that info there to get a directionally correct price estimate


OK  :flush:
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: pissclams on October 14, 2008, 03:28:55 PM
Seems kinda pricey for a build.  You can have one made with arguably better components for that and get a warranty for good measure.  I don't know, just  Two Cents
no you can't.  unless you know someone who's willing to take a loss on the components/labor.
there may be some savings found from shopping outside of newegg, i mostly put that info there to get a directionally correct price estimate


OK  :flush:
seriously, no one will build that computer for what I priced it out at, let alone upgrade components.   :dunno:
i don't even know if i feel like building it but kinda feel guilty getting ripped off on a premade machine.  :users:
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 14, 2008, 03:29:48 PM
Looks good, bro! (http://forums.anandtech.com/i/authorsicons/platypus.gif)
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: fatty fat fat on October 14, 2008, 03:30:27 PM
you can get cheaper 4gb ram (like, 65 bucks) and your psu is way too expensive.


dude, you are kind of rich. sheesh.
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 14, 2008, 03:32:01 PM
you can get cheaper 4gb ram (like, 65 bucks) and your psu is way too expensive.


dude, you are kind of rich. sheesh.
Quality power supply though.  Not that it really matters.

I don't like to skimp on memory.  Only thing I don't like is any computers I like to build w/ WD raptor for system drive.
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: pissclams on October 14, 2008, 03:33:15 PM
(http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/1631/gorillaaf2.gif)

that ram is $68.  $98-$30 = $68.  looking at 8GB.

the PSU is $99 and worth the extra $$
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: pissclams on October 14, 2008, 03:33:52 PM
you can get cheaper 4gb ram (like, 65 bucks) and your psu is way too expensive.


dude, you are kind of rich. sheesh.
Quality power supply though.  Not that it really matters.

I don't like to skimp on memory.  Only thing I don't like is any computers I like to build w/ WD raptor for system drive.

already have the 74GB raptor for my system drive
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 14, 2008, 03:35:42 PM
you can get cheaper 4gb ram (like, 65 bucks) and your psu is way too expensive.


dude, you are kind of rich. sheesh.
Quality power supply though.  Not that it really matters.

I don't like to skimp on memory.  Only thing I don't like is any computers I like to build w/ WD raptor for system drive.

already have the 74GB raptor for my system drive
Buy another. Raid 0!  From the time I dropped the Windows XP disc in the tray for installation to the time I got to the desktop - 7 minutes.
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 14, 2008, 03:36:53 PM
(http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/1631/gorillaaf2.gif)

that ram is $68.  $98-$30 = $68.  looking at 8GB.

the PSU is $99 and worth the extra $$
Might as well get 4GB but its sad the OS only addressed 3gb of it, unless of course you go Vista 64bit
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: pissclams on October 14, 2008, 03:49:07 PM
(http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/1631/gorillaaf2.gif)

that ram is $68.  $98-$30 = $68.  looking at 8GB.

the PSU is $99 and worth the extra $$
Might as well get 4GB but its sad the OS only addressed 3gb of it, unless of course you go Vista 64bit
planned on Vista 64bit, not sure why you wouldn't run that.

not interested in a raid configuration.    :rolleyes:
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 14, 2008, 03:50:32 PM
(http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/1631/gorillaaf2.gif)

that ram is $68.  $98-$30 = $68.  looking at 8GB.

the PSU is $99 and worth the extra $$
Might as well get 4GB but its sad the OS only addressed 3gb of it, unless of course you go Vista 64bit
not interested in a raid configuration.    :rolleyes:
y not?
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: pissclams on October 14, 2008, 03:57:49 PM
the raptors are overpriced and i already bit the bullet once, don't really want to again, nor do i need 900gb of HDD space.  the maintenance related to a raid configuration may exceed my tech level.  can't they be somewhat problematic? 
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: dr00d on October 14, 2008, 04:19:34 PM
the raptors are overpriced and i already bit the bullet once, don't really want to again, nor do i need 900gb of HDD space.  the maintenance related to a raid configuration may exceed my tech level.  can't they be somewhat problematic? 

no.
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 14, 2008, 04:37:07 PM
the raptors are overpriced and i already bit the bullet once, don't really want to again, nor do i need 900gb of HDD space.  the maintenance related to a raid configuration may exceed my tech level.  can't they be somewhat problematic? 
No maintenance needed.  You set up the "array" in the BIOS (assuming the motherboard has a raid controller built in) and it the OS sees it as one logical drive.  The only thing that sucks is if 1 drive dies you lose everything on both the disks. However if you just have your OS on there and program files you don't lose much.
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: pissclams on October 14, 2008, 08:05:41 PM
gotcha- i guess i thought they got screwed up more often than a regular hdd set up.  i assume that gigabyte board i listed above has a raid controller on board, be surprised if it didn't.
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 14, 2008, 10:30:28 PM
gotcha- i guess i thought they got screwed up more often than a regular hdd set up.  i assume that gigabyte board i listed above has a raid controller on board, be surprised if it didn't.
It uses software RAID which isn't as good but still not bad and better than not having it.
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: pissclams on October 14, 2008, 11:07:55 PM
hrm.  i might hunt one down that has an on board controller.
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: ew2x4 on October 15, 2008, 12:03:25 AM
you can get cheaper 4gb ram (like, 65 bucks) and your psu is way too expensive.


dude, you are kind of rich. sheesh.
Quality power supply though.  Not that it really matters.

I don't like to skimp on memory.  Only thing I don't like is any computers I like to build w/ WD raptor for system drive.

Actually the opposite is true. Memory brands really don't matter at all. Just get the cheapest with the specs you want. Powersupply, however, do not skimp. This is the piece that fries computers.
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: CrushNasty on October 15, 2008, 12:05:23 AM
Tiger Direct has alot of deals on computer parts... www.tigerdirect.com

Don't know if you've checked there yet? Didn't read through your crap
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: ew2x4 on October 15, 2008, 12:43:53 AM
Tiger Direct has alot of deals on computer parts... www.tigerdirect.com

Don't know if you've checked there yet? Didn't read through your crap

Tiger Direct isn't very good. Newegg really can't be beat.
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: ksuno1stunner on October 15, 2008, 01:12:10 AM
What about "blue-ray" drive?  Dunno.  Whatev.
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: pissclams on October 15, 2008, 07:11:31 AM
thought about the 'blue-ray'  but decided against it because didn't think I'd really need 1020p on a 24 inch screen
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: Saulbadguy on October 15, 2008, 07:42:15 AM
you can get cheaper 4gb ram (like, 65 bucks) and your psu is way too expensive.


dude, you are kind of rich. sheesh.
Quality power supply though.  Not that it really matters.

I don't like to skimp on memory.  Only thing I don't like is any computers I like to build w/ WD raptor for system drive.

Actually the opposite is true. Memory brands really don't matter at all. Just get the cheapest with the specs you want. Powersupply, however, do not skimp. This is the piece that fries computers.
Brands do not matter, but the chips that they use do, especially w/ overclocking.
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: ew2x4 on October 15, 2008, 09:18:34 AM
With overclocking, of course. I never noticed any difference in performance or reliability with normal usage though.
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: KSt8er on October 15, 2008, 12:08:44 PM
Best place to buy components is www.pricewatch.com if you know what you are looking for, and it appears you do.  Also, if they quote you a different price once you talk with whomever, just tell them you got it from pricewatch and you'll get that price. 

Sound card?  I don't use one but......
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: Brock Landers on October 15, 2008, 03:39:59 PM
I'm not sure what most of this crap means but I'm pretty sure the loose translation to English is "I'm a total nerd and I've never seen a nekkid lady before"
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: pwrcat1 on October 15, 2008, 08:18:22 PM
 :dancin:
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: k-state-wildcats11 on October 15, 2008, 08:35:29 PM
Man my laptop on Monday decided to be :ku: and now it will work fine for about 5 minutes then it will go to an all black screen that says press f1 to reboot or F2 to do something else can't remember and when I hit F1 it wont reboot very frustrating. Should I take it in to one of the computer  :nerd: and let them have a looksy? Or has anyone else had this problem and any ideas?
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: fatty fat fat on January 06, 2009, 12:03:40 PM
btw, i'm installing my new nehalem chip today. if n e 1 wants some benchies vs an amd x2 4200+, just ask.  :excited:
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: Saulbadguy on January 06, 2009, 12:49:02 PM
btw, i'm installing my new nehalem chip today. if n e 1 wants some benchies vs an amd x2 4200+, just ask.  :excited:
forums.anandtech.com

always and forever
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: dr00d on January 06, 2009, 02:53:56 PM
btw, i'm installing my new nehalem chip today. if n e 1 wants some benchies vs an amd x2 4200+, just ask.  :excited:

doesn't matter how fast you are if you lose all your games again.

Get a raid 5 and fast.
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: Saulbadguy on January 06, 2009, 02:55:37 PM
btw, i'm installing my new nehalem chip today. if n e 1 wants some benchies vs an amd x2 4200+, just ask.  :excited:
raid 5
:flush:
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: dr00d on January 06, 2009, 05:31:54 PM
Quote from: Saulbadguy

 :'byecruelworld:
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: hemmy on January 06, 2009, 06:40:37 PM
btw, i'm installing my new nehalem chip today. if n e 1 wants some benchies vs an amd x2 4200+, just ask.  :excited:

Rest of specs?
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: pissclams on January 23, 2009, 10:08:13 AM
btw, i'm installing my new nehalem chip today. if n e 1 wants some benchies vs an amd x2 4200+, just ask.  :excited:

fatty- http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3502

have you oc'd yours?  been reading some mixed results
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: fatty fat fat on January 23, 2009, 10:59:52 AM
not gonna try. stock cooler idles it at 60 C.
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: hemmy on January 23, 2009, 12:56:23 PM
Get a TRUE120, at minimum the 920's are getting to 3.6

The only limitation on air or water is heat with the i7's they have tons of headroom if cooled enough
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: Skycat on January 23, 2009, 03:31:20 PM
Screw raid.  Get a solid state HD and let me know if it's worth it.
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: steve dave on January 23, 2009, 03:36:12 PM
I had a girlfriend in college that asked me if I could somehow "hook together" her two old garbage computers to form some sort of super computer.  I told her sure you can, you just don't want to because then you end up with a bunch of Terminators running around killing everyone. 
Title: Re: New Computer Parts List
Post by: hemmy on January 23, 2009, 04:51:08 PM
Ok so my computer died a couple months ago and I've been trying to decide on how I want to replace it. 
Ideas so far:

Option 1)  iMac - I decided against this.  Don't want to learn something new (OSX) and they're overpriced.
Option 2)  Sony Vaio VGC-LV150J (http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665507563) - Still might get this, overpriced and underpowered though.  Love the all-in-one design and "media center" system.

Option 3)  Custom Build- here's the parts list I've come up with-

Mobo
GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Model #:GA-EP35-DS3L
Item #:N82E16813128337
$89.99 -$5.00 Instant $84.99

VGU   
VisionTek 900244 Radeon HD 4870 512MB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card
Model #:900244
Item #:N82E16814129113
$269.99

PSU   
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
Model #:CMPSU-650TX
Item #:N82E16817139005
$159.99 -$60.00 Instant $99.99

CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8400
Model #:BX80570E8400
Item #:N82E16819115037
$169.99

Memory   
2 x G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ
Model #:F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ
Item #:N82E16820231145
$97.99 -$30.00 Instant $135.98

HDD   
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
Model #:WD6400AAKS
Item #:N82E16822136218
$74.99

Optical Drive
LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model DH-20A4P-04
Model #:DH-20A4P-04
Item #:N82E16827106228
$22.99

Subtotal: $858.92

I already have a case I want to use.

Thoughts?   :confused:




I have those 2

Also, get an SATA dvd burner, not IDE

And SSD's are ridic. price / GB

Also, for the "VGU"I think you mean GPU,