i am somewhat honored by this, but we must give him as much crap as possible for it.
sad to see a guy like cattmatt take unwarranted shots at this board and its users, there really is no place for that type of disrespect.
:rolleyes:
I heard an interesting term the other day--chawbacon. It's a derogatory term applied to people who are ignorant and cruel. I have no idea what it means specifically (the cruel and ignorant are not the only ones who chaw bacon), but I like it nonetheless. So I plan to use it in this Blog. Liberally.http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0204322/board/nest/76327072 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0204322/board/nest/76327072)
Moving on ... I did something last night that I haven't done in four years: I sat down and watched Baby's Breath, the movie that my wife Laurin produced and that I wrote and directed with the help of the amazing people of El Dorado, Kansas. Admittedly, I have kept my distance from Baby's Breath for almost half a decade now. A lot of this has to do with disappointment. You see, despite our most valiant efforts when making and marketing that movie, many things in the end did not turn out as planned. Laurin and I went into this project with a dream, not just for ourselves but for my quiet little hometown of El Dorado. When the dream died and the ashes scattered, I wanted to get as far away from Baby's Breath as possible.
Only now have I had the courage to revisit that period of my life.
Am I still disappointed? Maybe just a little. Not in the movie, no, but with other things that went down at that time …
I am still disappointed that Baby's Breath failed to make any noise at the 2003 MIFED Film Market.
I am even more disappointed that one of our most trusted assistants turned on us in late 2003 and sent her friends to harass us outside our apartment at 2:00 in the morning.
I am equally disappointed that another one of our most trusted assistants got embarrassingly drunk when we took her to dinner at the Country Club and began calling our Executive Producer an *beep* over and over, even though he picked up the tab for the meal.
I am disappointed in a few so-called friends who turned their backs on us.
I am disappointed in the people who gossiped and spread rumors in an effort to drive a wedge between me and some of the most trusted people involved in the production.
I am disappointed that when Laurin and I sank the last of our money into a local coffee shop, hardly anyone showed up to support us.
I am disappointed that when the state wanted to do an Artist in Resident program in El Dorado for film, Laurin and I were not asked even though we lived there and had the equipment, but the paid gig went instead to the college roomate of someone up in Topeka who wasn't even from Kansas.
I am disappointed in the ones who have seen the film and feel it is their duty to point out everything wrong with it.
I am disappointed in the Internet chawbacons, many of them boasting that they are film students from ku, who wrote me nasty anonymous emails or posted horrible things online, all because Baby's Breath did not live up to their elitist standards.
I am disappointed in the people who knew nothing of what went on behind the scenes and yet had the audacity to call Laurin and I "quitters" when we found ourselves lacking the funds to produce our next film.
I guess I am just disappointed by people and their propensity for being, well, people, for passing judgment without knowing the facts, for making fools of themselves, for abandoning others who once counted on them.
I am disappointed in these things.
But I still love Baby's Breath.
I tell you, I love that movie. I don't love it in the way I love other favorite films (which is more appreciation than love), but I love it because it is my my child, imperfect though it may be. And I am especially honored by the many, many good people in Kansas who stepped up and worked their behinds off for this movie. Despite the aforementioned disappointments, I think we have a pretty damn good movie. Shortly after watching it, I wrote Gregory Yoder, the lead in the film, and said the following:
Seeing Baby's Breath now, after having been away from it for almost four years, I notice things I never noticed before. I see that despite its occasional flaws, which of course I will always notice, the script and the performances elevate it. I see that this was a labor of love, and the love we all had for the project comes bleeding through.
When you work this hard on something, when you pour your soul into it, when you love it as much as this, it is heartbreaking that there are so many bullies in the world who want to drag you down. Most of them, other than the aforementioned ku film students, lurk on a popular site known as IMDb.com, the Internet Movie Database. I admit I frequent this site and have found it a good movie reference in my writing. Nevertheless, fellow Kansas filmmaker Steve Balderson is not shy about pointing out the site's faults and discrepancies, many of which have to do with his own work, so IMDb is not the most reliable source, only the most popular.
That popularity is what makes its users so despicable, in my humble opinion. Any chawbacon with an email address who can type his own name and lie about his age can get himself an IMDb account. My account name is Mad Matt, and my email address is [email protected], and I've made it clear that anyone online can contact me at their convenience. If they have a question about Baby's Breath, or they just want to chat, I am an open book. Since I have made this offer, the only person to take me up on it has been a fellow Kansas filmmaker named Robert Kreh. Rob has seen Baby's Breath, and his opinions and criticisms have been fair, consistent, polite, and supportive. He appreciates the fact that anyone who attempts to make films in Kansas succeeds in doing so, so Rob and I have a mutual connection in that regard.
I wish more IMDb users could be like Rob. Whether you love or hate Baby's Breath, at least give it a fair shake. Sure, it's no Citizen Kane, but neither is it Plan 9 From Outer Space. It's just a movie, a story we wanted to tell, and too many outstanding people emptied their souls into this movie to make it happen. Rob Kreh gets it; he made his own independent film, Graceland, in El Dorado for about $1000. Although he admits to me that it has flaws of its own, I know that he loves it as much as I love Baby's Breath. When I finally see Graceland next month I will respect it for what it is, as he has done the same for my film.
But take Rob out of the equation, and what do I have left on IMDb? Chawbacons. Miserable, angry, bitter, condescending chawbacons. Let me tell you a story.
A few months ago, the IMDb user rating for Baby's Breath was a 7 out of 10, based on a total of 22 votes. Not many people had seen the movie, and of those who had seen it even fewer frequented IMDb. So 7 out of 10 is pretty good rating, all things considered. A 7 is a C, and I think the film is a C to a B at best, so I have no problem with this rating.
A few weeks ago, Laurin and I decided to send Baby's Breath to a distribution company in Marina Del Ray, California, called CinemaNow Inc. CinemaNow Inc. is one of those modest distributors that allows you to download entire movies off the Internet onto your computer. This company is allegedly above-board; it does not pirate movies, and viewers do have to pay for their downloads. If CinemaNow Inc. decided to distribute Baby's Breath online, we would probably not see a lot of money, but that is not the point; the point is, other people could see our movie … and isn't that why we make movies, so people can see them?
Well, CinemaNow did not get back to us or post our movie, but one week after we sent them a screener of Baby's Breath, our IMDb user rating dropped to 5.3 out of 10. I was curious as to why this was, so I clicked on the voting totals and discovered something interesting. Prior to sending Baby's Breath to CinemaNow Inc., we had a total of four votes rating our movie as a 1 our of 10. Now, all of a sudden, there were 18 votes rating Baby's Breath a 1, which meant 14 people had logged into IMDb in the last week and given Baby's Breath the lowest score possible. Who could those people be? Who had seen the movie in that last week?
Any ideas? I have a few. It seems an odd coincidence that 14 people voted the week after we sent our movie to CinemaNow Inc, doesn't it? I admit this gets under my skin. No, I don't expect 10's across the board, but really? That many people gave it a 1 out of 10? I mean, a 1? Do you know what kind of movies get a 1? Movies like Manos, the Hands of Fate get a 1. Movies like Rat-Fink and Boo-Boo get a 1. And 14 people in one week suddenly think Baby's Breath is on par with Manos the Hands of Fate and Rat-Fink and Boo-Boo?
But voting isn't the real thing that bugs me. People are entitled to an opinion. But some people just can't let it go with their vote. Some people just have to be cruel about things. Shortly after we sent Baby's Breath to CinemaNow Inc., I happened to notice some new Plot Keywords on IMDb associated with our movie. For those of you who don't know, Plot Keywords are one- or two-word "bites" that describe a film in such a way that if you decided you wanted to see others like it, you could click on a keyword and see a list.
For example, some of the Plot Keywords for Casablanca are "Sacrifice," "Nightclub," "Escape," "North Africa," "WWII," "Betrayal," and "Refugee.
For Baby's Breath, some good plot keywords might be "Ghost Story," "Child Ghost," "Fire," "Burn Victim," "Murder," and so on. All of these describe something about the movie and its story.
But do you know what Plot Keywords magically appeared on IMDb in reference to Baby's Breath? The following: "Horror Spoof," "Smoking Ape," "Fake," "Bed Wetting," and "Fat Hero." What? What? How does this happen?
A short explanation: Since there are literally millions and millions of movies to be listed on IMDb, the website does not have the staff to provide thorough research. As such, it relies on its users for much of its information, and since the IMDb staff is too swamped to check the validity of user suggestions, nine times out of ten it just prints what it is given.
It probably helps if you are a user who works in the industry (say, a small distribution company in Marina Del Ray), because you might have an inside track to how the Plot Keyword system works on IMDb. I'm not saying CinemaNow Inc. is responsible for those insulting Plot Keywords. Granted, it is a bit fishy that said Keywords would appear shortly after our film is sent to CinemaNow Inc. ... but I'm not saying they are responsible.
What I am saying is that it is outrageous that some chawbacon's idea of a joke about our movie gets printed on a heavily-trafficked website for all the world to see. Normally, I would laugh it off, but this isn't an example of one of my buddies playing a practical joke. This is an anonymous bully using the most frequently visited movie website in the world to take unwarranted jabs at a little movie that many good people worked very hard to make happen.
As my wife is so fond of saying, what's the matter with people?
I have contacted IMDb about the issue, but I don't anticipate a hasty resolution. And in the grand scheme of things, it's not that big a deal. None of it really changes the fact that we made a movie and that we happen to feel it's a pretty good one. None of it takes away from the outstanding performances by many of the actors, the camera operator's occasional forays into brilliance, and the fact that this script is still one of the best that I have written.
As I said, I love Baby's Breath. I love this film. And with the help of a lot of very good people, we were able to give this story life. That's all that matters in the end, what Laurin and I and our loyal supporters happen to think about it.
The rest, to me, is just, well, chawed bacon.
I've never seen his movie, but really, what a cry-baby. I think he's in the wrong industry. You aren't owed a good grade just because you work hard. That's true in school, that's true in the film industry, that's true in life.http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0204322/board/nest/76327072?d=92177272&p=2#92177272 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0204322/board/nest/76327072?d=92177272&p=2#92177272)
I don't mark things '1' very often: out of my 1830 votes, 23 have been 1s. (or '10' - 44 10s in my history). And a '7' is NOT a 'C' for me. A 7 is good. A 7 indicates that I will buy this movie on DVD. An 8 is excellent. A 9 is superb, brilliant. A 10 is a masterpiece.
Methinks this guy has "precious little snowflake" syndrome. That's where you think you're owed success just for turning up. Self-entitlement gone crazy.
- "I am even more disappointed that one of our most trusted assistants turned on us in late 2003 and sent her friends to harass us outside our apartment at 2:00 in the morning.
I am equally disappointed that another one of our most trusted assistants got embarrassingly drunk when we took her to dinner at the Country Club and began calling our Executive Producer an *beep* over and over, even though he picked up the tab for the meal.
I am disappointed in a few so-called friends who turned their backs on us.
I am disappointed in the people who gossiped and spread rumors in an effort to drive a wedge between me and some of the most trusted people involved in the production.
I am disappointed that when Laurin and I sank the last of our money into a local coffee shop, hardly anyone showed up to support us."
Yeah, there come's a point where you have ask yourself "Is it ME? Is it not, in fact, everyone else in the world who sucks, but ME? Am I the real problem here? Am I...a jerk?"
- "I am disappointed in the ones who have seen the film and feel it is their duty to point out everything wrong with it. "
Which means you're not entitled to voice your opinion if you didn't like his film.
His whining about keywords is just too absurd.
- "it's not that big a deal."
He sure talks a lot about something that isn't a big deal.
:dancin: :dancin: :dancin: :dancin: :dancin: :dancin: :dancin: :dancin: :dancin: :dancin:not a scout subscriber what is the jist of it.
http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=173&f=2674&t=3109930&p=1
Look for the large all-caps, boldface post.
Matthew has made his prfile private to lock out all the assclowns who use his information against him.http://www.myspace.com/sober_gaijin (http://www.myspace.com/sober_gaijin)
QuoteMatthew has made his prfile private to lock out all the assclowns who use his information against him.http://www.myspace.com/sober_gaijin (http://www.myspace.com/sober_gaijin)
Quote from: CatmattAm I still disappointed? Maybe just a little. Not in the movie, no, but with other things that went down at that time …http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0204322/board/nest/76327072?d=92177272&p=2#92177272 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0204322/board/nest/76327072?d=92177272&p=2#92177272)
I am still disappointed that Baby's Breath failed to make any noise at the 2003 MIFED Film Market.
I am even more disappointed that one of our most trusted assistants turned on us in late 2003 and sent her friends to harass us outside our apartment at 2:00 in the morning.
I am equally disappointed that another one of our most trusted assistants got embarrassingly drunk when we took her to dinner at the Country Club and began calling our Executive Producer an *beep* over and over, even though he picked up the tab for the meal.
I am disappointed in a few so-called friends who turned their backs on us.
I am disappointed in the people who gossiped and spread rumors in an effort to drive a wedge between me and some of the most trusted people involved in the production.
I am disappointed that when Laurin and I sank the last of our money into a local coffee shop, hardly anyone showed up to support us.
I am disappointed that when the state wanted to do an Artist in Resident program in El Dorado for film, Laurin and I were not asked even though we lived there and had the equipment, but the paid gig went instead to the college roomate of someone up in Topeka who wasn't even from Kansas.
I am disappointed in the ones who have seen the film and feel it is their duty to point out everything wrong with it.
I am disappointed in the Internet chawbacons, many of them boasting that they are film students from ku, who wrote me nasty anonymous emails or posted horrible things online, all because Baby's Breath did not live up to their elitist standards.
I am disappointed in the people who knew nothing of what went on behind the scenes and yet had the audacity to call Laurin and I "quitters" when we found ourselves lacking the funds to produce our next film.
I guess I am just disappointed by people and their propensity for being, well, people, for passing judgment without knowing the facts, for making fools of themselves, for abandoning others who once counted on them.
I am disappointed in these things.
the world is a tough place Rick, the sooner you wise up and thicken up that soft skin of yours, the better off you will be
(http://a523.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/47/s_9dcf02b1546bf7130590aea3a5c92202.jpg)Casey Kasem?
Wasn't this guy in "Orgazmo"?
Sancho?
Catmatt I see you lurking, what's the deal?
Look for the large all-caps, boldface post.
I'm genuinely hurt.
What a flip-flopper.
He voted for Kerry.
sad to see a guy like cattmatt take unwarranted shots at this board and its users, there really is no place for that type of disrespect.
I can tell his movie sucks without even watching it.
If he has children, they are probably a bunch of trigs
I am disappointed that cattmatt would be nice to our faces and then run off to his "cool" friends and make fun of us
He came over here, registered, shared a few laughs and then ran back and made fun of us.
I understand that there are people in this world who aren't nice, but this just seems premeditated and mean.
like high school all over.
You didn't think I'd take the crap lying down, did you? Let's just address a few things that were said here ...
Dirty Sanchez wrote:QuoteLook for the large all-caps, boldface post.
I deleted the post. I didn't realize it would hurt your widdle feelings so much to be called "classless assclowns." From what I gathered reading some of the threads, I figured most of you would wear the nomenclature like a badge of honor. Isn't that why this board broke off from the other, so you could have carte blanche to be as cruel and mean-spirited as you want?
csourk wrote:QuoteI'm genuinely hurt.
I can't tell if you are serious or not, man. If you are being serious, I wasn't singling out you or many other folks on this board. I think in the offending post on the other site, I said something to the effect that certain Republicans and Christians are no more representative of all Republicans and Christians than "the classless assclowns on KSUFans" are representative of the entire KSU fanbase. I never said everyone on this baord was an assclown, only that there are classless assclowns who post over here (and you know who you are).
Oklahoma_Cat wrote:QuoteWhat a flip-flopper.
I don't even know what this means.
dr00d wrote:QuoteHe voted for Kerry.
That's a bit low.
pissclams wrote:Quotesad to see a guy like cattmatt take unwarranted shots at this board and its users, there really is no place for that type of disrespect.
I assume you're being sarcastic. It seems to me this board is purposefully designed as a forum for "that type of distrespect." Hell, everyone on here is looking for ways to take it too far, wheter it is digging out personal information or harrassing someone's daughter on her MySpace page. And as far as my shots back being unwarranted ... that's a matter of opinion.
PS: I see you edited your one post after I PM'ed you. I'd still like to know your sources and where you got that misinformation.
Oklahoma_Cat wrote:QuoteI can tell his movie sucks without even watching it.
Matter of opinion, and I respect that. It would be nice, however, if you could:
a. Watch the movie first.
b. Present an informed analysis as to why it sucked.
c. Have the balls to sign your name to it.
Your comment is reminiscent of all the anonymous emails I got from ku film students back in 2003 ... before I had even screen the film. They just knew it "sucked" somehow. How's it feel to have something in common with ku film students?QuoteIf he has children, they are probably a bunch of trigs
If you're going to bring my kids into this, then definitely, you need to come out from behind that internet anonymity and say that one too my face. Come on, you little bitch. Quit hiding behind that half-black stuffed shirt avatar of yours and show me what a big man you are.
Rick Daris wrote:QuoteI am disappointed that cattmatt would be nice to our faces and then run off to his "cool" friends and make fun of us
First of all, I wasn't nice to anyone's face. No one shows their face on here for me to be nice to. But I did come on here in peace. I wasn't trying to harm anyone. I was getting along. I was enjoying sharing my videos with you. But some of your users thought it would be fun to frack with me. And I guess I committed the unpardonable sin of calling those users "classless assclowns." Wow, I must have touched a nerve there.
By the way, who said the people on the other board were cool? None of them are my friends. They're just people I shoot the crap with on the Internet.QuoteHe came over here, registered, shared a few laughs and then ran back and made fun of us.
I cam over and registered because I was invited. Someone who liked my videos invited me. Geez, it's as simple as that. I didn't have any ulterior motive. I wasn't sneaking on here, waiting for the day when I could go back to the scout board and call you all "classless assclowns."
By the way, calling some of the users "classless assclowns" is not "making fun." It's stating a fact.QuoteI understand that there are people in this world who aren't nice, but this just seems premeditated and mean.
There are a lot of people in this world who aren't nice. Many of them are on this board. Many of them are premeditated and mean. Some of the crap done and said to me was not playful, not funny, and not provoked. So don't get on your high horse over here. You're sounding like an al-Quada in the desert, looking up at a Patriot missile bearing down and saying, "What did I ever do to you?"
fatty fat fat wrote:Quotelike high school all over.
Tell me about it. When people go to my MySpace page, take passages from my blogs and post them out of context to embarrass me ... I am reminded of the film Odd Girl Out, which I watched with my granddaughter last year. It's kind of a dark version of Mean Girls, and it involves high school girls anonymously trying to harrass and embarrass their peers by sharing personal information on the Internet. I'm not a high school girl. I won't become bulemic or suicidal. But I will call your crap on it.
I guess it's my own fault for making my MySpace page public. I did this so when I blogged from Africa my parents could read it. it kind of sucks when anonymous little cockroaches have to go and screw that up for me.
CONCLUSION:
Here's the bottom line, and this goes out to any classless assclown who is listening.
You want to bring my movie into it, go right ahead. It's fair game. I made it public. It has its flaws, and I have openly admitted that I am responsible for those flaws. I'm proud of my script, but I really didn't know what I was doing trying to direct the thing. I can take that heat; I only get defensive when people attack the movie as a whole to include the very fine people who acted in it and helped make it possible. I can take the heat, but I won't let you go after any of them. Everything right that happened in that film happened because of them; everything wrong happened because of me. I admit that.
For those like Oklahoma_Cat who flip the crap, let me ask you this? How many movies have you made? Did you devote two years of your life and all of your savings to make one? Did you spend every last dime to get into the international film market in Milan, take the movie there yourself, and find yourself getting beaten up by bigger studios and production companies with a lot more money? Did you take people under your wing, mentor them, even pay for one of them to accompany you to Italy for the market, only to have that person turn on you, spread lies about you, and send their friends to harrass you in the middle of the night?
I think not. Because if you'd been through it, you'd shut your piehole. I know I've picked on Ron Prince as much as the next guy, but one of the reasons I still pray for his success is because did the same thing at K-State that I did making the movie. He jumped into this situation with a plan, despite all the talk that he didn't have enough experience. He believes in himself and his system, and even as he sees it coming apart at the seams, he's still knee-deep in it, fighting it out, trying to succeed. Would any of you be able to take what Ron Prince is taking? Doubt it. If you had half his strength, you wouldn't be on message boards, hiding behind your faggoty little scren names, talking smack on things you know jack crap about.
If you have a problem with my rant, talk to me personally about it. Most of you know more about me than I do about you. Man up, ID yourselves, and show me what you've got.
Or just post something stupid on this thread and show your reacharound buddies how clever you are. Maybe when you hit puberty, you'll come to me with something to say that's of value.
I'll send you a fracking copy.
You didn't think I'd take the crap lying down, did you? Let's just address a few things that were said here ...
How many movies have you made?
What's baby's breath about?
You didn't think I'd take the crap lying down, did you? Let's just address a few things that were said here ...
How many movies have you made?
I've made 1, and it sells nicely in Germany and Japan. They eat that crap up. You should consider marketing it overseas.
:users:
What's baby's breath about?
If you honestly want to know ...
I wrote the screenplay when I lived in Los Angeles. It's a pretty basic ghost story, not too violent, with a murder mystery and a twist. The premise was inspired by an actual crime. In Wichita 12 years ago, a young woman was murdered, and the house was set on fire to hide the evidence. Her 18-month-old baby was trapped in the house, and the child died in the St. Francis Burn Unit one week later.
I got this what-if idea about the baby's spirit leaving her body while she's in the coma in the icu. The spirit appears to the only man she trusts, her mother's boyfriend, and tries to tell him who the killer is. Only trouble is, she talks in baby talk, so the hero can't understand her.
My agent shopped the script all over Hollywood. Two days after he sent it out, he called me and said, "I've got 12 meetings lined up for you." So I was all over Hollywood, meeting producers on different studio lots. Everyone said the same thing, "This script scared the hell out of me. Great script. Only trouble is, we can't make it. You see, you've got this baby in a burn unit, covered with burns. Even if you don't show her, the idea is just too much for most audiences."
This was 2002, mind you. Times have changed since then. I got so frustrated that I decided to try to make the movie myself, and I came back to Kansas to do it. Yes, it has a lot of problems, but I'm damn proud of the script and I'm damn proud of the performances from the cast. Still, it's pretty low-budget, and it shows. If I had the money, I would go back and redo it, hire someone with a little directing experience, and totally revamp the first 20 minutes, which are kind of slow and poorly paced. I got so caught up in rushing through those scenes, in getting to the actual crime, that I didn't focus on making them as compelling as the crime itself.
I did sell the movie to a couple of foreign countries. Not a lot of dough. Both countries were hit by the tsunami in 2004--make of that what you will (Catmatt mojo not working).
Anyway, that's the movie. The DVD is independently produced, and all the things that I can do with video now I didn't know how to do then. So there aren't any great effects, and there aren't even chapter stops, and my director's commentary sucks rocks--I was deep in debt, feeling miserable, and I got a bit self-indulgent. But ... the one light from that time. One week after we got home from Italy ... K-State beat OU in the B12 Title Game.
Catmatt, this sounds really interesting. Really cool that I can say I've message boarded with a film director.
Catmatt, this sounds really interesting. Really cool that I can say I've message boarded with a film director.
Not a film director. If you watch the movie, you'll see why I say that.
You didn't think I'd take the crap lying down, did you? Let's just address a few things that were said here ...
Dirty Sanchez wrote:QuoteLook for the large all-caps, boldface post.
I deleted the post. I didn't realize it would hurt your widdle feelings so much to be called "classless assclowns." From what I gathered reading some of the threads, I figured most of you would wear the nomenclature like a badge of honor. Isn't that why this board broke off from the other, so you could have carte blanche to be as cruel and mean-spirited as you want?
csourk wrote:QuoteI'm genuinely hurt.
I can't tell if you are serious or not, man. If you are being serious, I wasn't singling out you or many other folks on this board. I think in the offending post on the other site, I said something to the effect that certain Republicans and Christians are no more representative of all Republicans and Christians than "the classless assclowns on KSUFans" are representative of the entire KSU fanbase. I never said everyone on this baord was an assclown, only that there are classless assclowns who post over here (and you know who you are).
Oklahoma_Cat wrote:QuoteWhat a flip-flopper.
I don't even know what this means.
dr00d wrote:QuoteHe voted for Kerry.
That's a bit low.
pissclams wrote:Quotesad to see a guy like cattmatt take unwarranted shots at this board and its users, there really is no place for that type of disrespect.
I assume you're being sarcastic. It seems to me this board is purposefully designed as a forum for "that type of distrespect." Hell, everyone on here is looking for ways to take it too far, wheter it is digging out personal information or harrassing someone's daughter on her MySpace page. And as far as my shots back being unwarranted ... that's a matter of opinion.
PS: I see you edited your one post after I PM'ed you. I'd still like to know your sources and where you got that misinformation.
Oklahoma_Cat wrote:QuoteI can tell his movie sucks without even watching it.
Matter of opinion, and I respect that. It would be nice, however, if you could:
a. Watch the movie first.
b. Present an informed analysis as to why it sucked.
c. Have the balls to sign your name to it.
Your comment is reminiscent of all the anonymous emails I got from ku film students back in 2003 ... before I had even screen the film. They just knew it "sucked" somehow. How's it feel to have something in common with ku film students?QuoteIf he has children, they are probably a bunch of trigs
If you're going to bring my kids into this, then definitely, you need to come out from behind that internet anonymity and say that one too my face. Come on, you little bitch. Quit hiding behind that half-black stuffed shirt avatar of yours and show me what a big man you are.
Rick Daris wrote:QuoteI am disappointed that cattmatt would be nice to our faces and then run off to his "cool" friends and make fun of us
First of all, I wasn't nice to anyone's face. No one shows their face on here for me to be nice to. But I did come on here in peace. I wasn't trying to harm anyone. I was getting along. I was enjoying sharing my videos with you. But some of your users thought it would be fun to frack with me. And I guess I committed the unpardonable sin of calling those users "classless assclowns." Wow, I must have touched a nerve there.
By the way, who said the people on the other board were cool? None of them are my friends. They're just people I shoot the crap with on the Internet.QuoteHe came over here, registered, shared a few laughs and then ran back and made fun of us.
I cam over and registered because I was invited. Someone who liked my videos invited me. Geez, it's as simple as that. I didn't have any ulterior motive. I wasn't sneaking on here, waiting for the day when I could go back to the scout board and call you all "classless assclowns."
By the way, calling some of the users "classless assclowns" is not "making fun." It's stating a fact.QuoteI understand that there are people in this world who aren't nice, but this just seems premeditated and mean.
There are a lot of people in this world who aren't nice. Many of them are on this board. Many of them are premeditated and mean. Some of the crap done and said to me was not playful, not funny, and not provoked. So don't get on your high horse over here. You're sounding like an al-Quada in the desert, looking up at a Patriot missile bearing down and saying, "What did I ever do to you?"
fatty fat fat wrote:Quotelike high school all over.
Tell me about it. When people go to my MySpace page, take passages from my blogs and post them out of context to embarrass me ... I am reminded of the film Odd Girl Out, which I watched with my granddaughter last year. It's kind of a dark version of Mean Girls, and it involves high school girls anonymously trying to harrass and embarrass their peers by sharing personal information on the Internet. I'm not a high school girl. I won't become bulemic or suicidal. But I will call your crap on it.
I guess it's my own fault for making my MySpace page public. I did this so when I blogged from Africa my parents could read it. it kind of sucks when anonymous little cockroaches have to go and screw that up for me.
CONCLUSION:
Here's the bottom line, and this goes out to any classless assclown who is listening.
You want to bring my movie into it, go right ahead. It's fair game. I made it public. It has its flaws, and I have openly admitted that I am responsible for those flaws. I'm proud of my script, but I really didn't know what I was doing trying to direct the thing. I can take that heat; I only get defensive when people attack the movie as a whole to include the very fine people who acted in it and helped make it possible. I can take the heat, but I won't let you go after any of them. Everything right that happened in that film happened because of them; everything wrong happened because of me. I admit that.
For those like Oklahoma_Cat who flip the crap, let me ask you this? How many movies have you made? Did you devote two years of your life and all of your savings to make one? Did you spend every last dime to get into the international film market in Milan, take the movie there yourself, and find yourself getting beaten up by bigger studios and production companies with a lot more money? Did you take people under your wing, mentor them, even pay for one of them to accompany you to Italy for the market, only to have that person turn on you, spread lies about you, and send their friends to harrass you in the middle of the night?
I think not. Because if you'd been through it, you'd shut your piehole. I know I've picked on Ron Prince as much as the next guy, but one of the reasons I still pray for his success is because did the same thing at K-State that I did making the movie. He jumped into this situation with a plan, despite all the talk that he didn't have enough experience. He believes in himself and his system, and even as he sees it coming apart at the seams, he's still knee-deep in it, fighting it out, trying to succeed. Would any of you be able to take what Ron Prince is taking? Doubt it. If you had half his strength, you wouldn't be on message boards, hiding behind your faggoty little scren names, talking smack on things you know jack crap about.
If you have a problem with my rant, talk to me personally about it. Most of you know more about me than I do about you. Man up, ID yourselves, and show me what you've got.
Or just post something stupid on this thread and show your reacharound buddies how clever you are. Maybe when you hit puberty, you'll come to me with something to say that's of value.
You didn't think I'd take the crap lying down, did you? Let's just address a few things that were said here ...
How many movies have you made?
I've made 1, and it sells nicely in Germany and Japan. They eat that crap up. You should consider marketing it overseas.
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Can I find it on IMDb? Did you write, direct, star? I'd just like to know.
catmatt, i think you have me confused with someone else because you never pm'd me :confused:
You didn't think I'd take the crap lying down, did you? Let's just address a few things that were said here ...
How many movies have you made?
I've made 1, and it sells nicely in Germany and Japan. They eat that crap up. You should consider marketing it overseas.
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Can I find it on IMDb? Did you write, direct, star? I'd just like to know.
Chief photog. I'm ugly, so I stay behind camera. Not on imdb as far as I know, but I will search.
In all honesty, I was just teasing you about your movie because it seemed like the thing to do. Having been involved in movie and video production, I feel your pain. Not as easy as it looks, that's for sure.
I'd actually be pretty interested in seeing this movie, Matt.
yeah me too.I'd actually be pretty interested in seeing this movie, Matt.
Same here.
hmm i haven't been on the scout board in months under the moniker "pissclams". i'm logged in under my phog.net sock, and that's it but haven't visited kstatefans in forever. this must have been to a coincidence.catmatt, i think you have me confused with someone else because you never pm'd me :confused:
I PM'ed you on the Scout board at 11:03, and then you edited your post at 12:56. The edit you made removed the comment that I specifically addressed in the PM. That's why I made that assumption.
hmm i haven't been on the scout board in months under the moniker "pissclams". i'm logged in under my phog.net sock, and that's it but haven't visited kstatefans in forever. this must have been to a coincidence.catmatt, i think you have me confused with someone else because you never pm'd me :confused:
I PM'ed you on the Scout board at 11:03, and then you edited your post at 12:56. The edit you made removed the comment that I specifically addressed in the PM. That's why I made that assumption.
i have no secrets - please post here whatever you said in the scout board pm. and why wouldn't you just pm me here? fwiw, i edited my post here because when i re-read my post i thought it sounded mean.
earthdogfredhmm i haven't been on the scout board in months under the moniker "pissclams". i'm logged in under my phog.net sock, and that's it but haven't visited kstatefans in forever. this must have been to a coincidence.catmatt, i think you have me confused with someone else because you never pm'd me :confused:
I PM'ed you on the Scout board at 11:03, and then you edited your post at 12:56. The edit you made removed the comment that I specifically addressed in the PM. That's why I made that assumption.
i have no secrets - please post here whatever you said in the scout board pm. and why wouldn't you just pm me here? fwiw, i edited my post here because when i re-read my post i thought it sounded mean.
Who is the phog sock you speak of? :chirp:
hmm i haven't been on the scout board in months under the moniker "pissclams". i'm logged in under my phog.net sock, and that's it but haven't visited kstatefans in forever. this must have been to a coincidence.catmatt, i think you have me confused with someone else because you never pm'd me :confused:
I PM'ed you on the Scout board at 11:03, and then you edited your post at 12:56. The edit you made removed the comment that I specifically addressed in the PM. That's why I made that assumption.
i have no secrets - please post here whatever you said in the scout board pm. and why wouldn't you just pm me here? fwiw, i edited my post here because when i re-read my post i thought it sounded mean.
hmm i haven't been on the scout board in months under the moniker "pissclams". i'm logged in under my phog.net sock, and that's it but haven't visited kstatefans in forever. this must have been to a coincidence.catmatt, i think you have me confused with someone else because you never pm'd me :confused:
I PM'ed you on the Scout board at 11:03, and then you edited your post at 12:56. The edit you made removed the comment that I specifically addressed in the PM. That's why I made that assumption.
i have no secrets - please post here whatever you said in the scout board pm. and why wouldn't you just pm me here? fwiw, i edited my post here because when i re-read my post i thought it sounded mean.
I believe you, man. It's a really funny coincidence. All I said in the PM was check your fact because you stated something that was innacurate. No harm, no foul.
I ddn't PM you here because I was modifying my profile and was PO'ed, and I deleted my account. So I had no way to PM over here. When this thread started, I opened a new account under Catmatt to wade in with fists a'flying.
hmm i haven't been on the scout board in months under the moniker "pissclams". i'm logged in under my phog.net sock, and that's it but haven't visited kstatefans in forever. this must have been to a coincidence.catmatt, i think you have me confused with someone else because you never pm'd me :confused:
I PM'ed you on the Scout board at 11:03, and then you edited your post at 12:56. The edit you made removed the comment that I specifically addressed in the PM. That's why I made that assumption.
i have no secrets - please post here whatever you said in the scout board pm. and why wouldn't you just pm me here? fwiw, i edited my post here because when i re-read my post i thought it sounded mean.
I believe you, man. It's a really funny coincidence. All I said in the PM was check your fact because you stated something that was innacurate. No harm, no foul.
I ddn't PM you here because I was modifying my profile and was PO'ed, and I deleted my account. So I had no way to PM over here. When this thread started, I opened a new account under Catmatt to wade in with fists a'flying.
You need to take anger management classes. Getting worked up over message board threads is whey ghey!
Look, I'm the most classless assclown of them all, and when you see my new video next week, you'll see what I mean.:lick: :hope: :hope:
Look, I'm the most classless assclown of them all, and when you see my new video next week, you'll see what I mean.
Look, I'm the most classless assclown of them all, and when you see my new video next week, you'll see what I mean.
Are meltdowns and account deletions considered classless?
This is starting to look like gopowercat a few weeks ago when everyone tossed out their email address to get top secret info on Leon Patton/Brent Venables/etc.What kind of classless assclown would start something like that? :peek:
daughter on her MySpace page....my kids...my granddaughter...
daughter on her MySpace page....my kids...my granddaughter...
sounds like you reproduce a lot.
maybe spend a little less time weeping for gorillas, and a little more time not filling up the entire fracking planet with countless humans next go'round.
daughter on her MySpace page....my kids...my granddaughter...
sounds like you reproduce a lot.
maybe spend a little less time weeping for gorillas, and a little more time not filling up the entire fracking planet with countless humans next go'round.
It wasn't my daughter on MySpace ... it was someone else's daughter, but thanks for playing. I have kids. I have a granddaughter. Yeah, I reproduce. So do a lot of other people on the board. What of it, dicksmack?
As for the rest of your post, I have no idea what the frack you're implying. The good news is, you're not a classless assclown. You're just a fracking brain-damagined moron trying to be cute like a baby monkey throwing his feces.
And I don't weep for the gorillas, assclown. The wife and I actually do something ... working for the charity, going to Africa ... my wife personally established one charity's charitable status in the States so domestic donations could be tax deductible (all the donations up to that point had been from the uk). As a result, we generated close to $70,000 in US donations in the first six months.
I don't have time to sit around weeping, dickhead. Weeping is what you do every weekend in Aggieville after the bars close and not even the burn victims and amputees will go home with you.
So ... again ... what the frack was your point?
I have kids. I have a granddaughter. Yeah, I reproduce. So do a lot of other people on the board. What of it, dicksmack?
As for the rest of your post, I have no idea what the frack you're implying.