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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: mjrod on September 03, 2006, 11:53:23 AM
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Article on GoPowerCat, interview with Snyder stated:
"But I don't believe in $150 million facilities. I just don't. And I think it sends a bad message to young people – there's that thought about entitlement, is there not?" ...
"And we need not to overspend our boundaries in regard to facilities just to entice some young guy who has his head in the wrong place to Kansas State University."
Smack.
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I'd hate to have all of the talented Texas players that have their heads in the "wrong place."
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Snyder's mantra of doing more with less personified his success. I'd hate to think that we could do more with a lot more and end up like a Texas team that had spent so much for so little success.
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I have never said spend $150 million dollars either.
You clearly only read what you wanted to read on the other board MJ, like so many others on there.
BTW ... Prince and staff ... hate Vanier, but they may never generate enough clout to do anything about it. But they wanted the construction stopped and the whole place torn down and done over when they first got to KSU.
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I have never said spend $150 million dollars either.
You clearly only read what you wanted to read on the other board MJ, like so many others on there.
BTW ... Prince and staff ... hate Vanier, but they may never generate enough clout to do anything about it. But they wanted the construction stopped and the whole place torn down and done over when they first got to KSU.
As usual, you're an easy one to get. :thumbsup:
I never said you said anything about $150 million, the point was a direct response to the continuous statement about the focus of the administration and it's facilities.
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BTW ... Prince and staff ... hate Vanier, but they may never generate enough clout to do anything about it. But they wanted the construction stopped and the whole place torn down and done over when they first got to KSU.
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As usual, you're an easy one to get. :thumbsup:
I never said you said anything about $150 million, the point was a direct response to the continuous statement about the focus of the administration and it's facilities.
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I'd hate to think that we could do more with a lot more and end up like a Texas team that had spent so much for so little success.
I'd hate winning a national championship.
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So little success ... a national title, two straight Rose Bowl wins .... you know, crappy stuff like that.
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""But I don't believe in $150 million facilities. I just don't. "
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It's not about spending money...it's all about the stonework.
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I'm with Java and FKSUFSODJ on this one. I'd much rather barely beat a I-AA program than be in the hunt for the national title year after year, at least until I faced OU each season.
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""But I don't believe in $150 million facilities. I just don't. "
Bill-
It's not about spending money...it's all about the stonework.
Your lawn better up to snuff.
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Money is overrated.
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"Your lawn better up to snuff."
What?
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"Your lawn better up to snuff."
What?
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Andy, if you want to root for texas, root for texas. What's the problem?
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I'm with Java and FKSUFSODJ on this one. I'd much rather barely beat a I-AA program than be in the hunt for the national title year after year, at least until I faced OU each season.
So you think that they bought themselves a national title?
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So little success ... a national title, two straight Rose Bowl wins .... you know, crappy stuff like that.
Come on, you're not that retarded. They've been spending God awful amounts of money for almost 4 decades.
And now they get something?
My God, is it any wonder no one can take you seriously?
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why would we want to compeat for national championships when we can have this guy!!!!(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d101/ds43fan/powercatsign.gif)
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So little success ... a national title, two straight Rose Bowl wins .... you know, crappy stuff like that.
Come on, you're not that retarded. They've been spending God awful amounts of money for almost 4 decades.
And now they get something?
My God, is it any wonder no one can take you seriously?
No they haven't. If you'd paid attention you'd know they didn't start spending huge amounts of money on facilities until the 1990's ... guess who else actually started spending money on facilities in the 1990's.
Give it up Rod.
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So little success ... a national title, two straight Rose Bowl wins .... you know, crappy stuff like that.
Come on, you're not that retarded. They've been spending God awful amounts of money for almost 4 decades.
And now they get something?
My God, is it any wonder no one can take you seriously?
No they haven't. If you'd paid attention you'd know they didn't start spending huge amounts of money on facilities until the 1990's ... guess who else actually started spending money on facilities in the 1990's.
Give it up Rod.
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Seriously, your hangup with the facilities is meaningless and isn't the issue with people who understand how this works. KSU's slide has nothing to do with money spent on facilities. You're only shining example is Texas, but you fail to take into consideration other factors. I'll let you figure it out. Then again, I'm sure you wont.
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Who started the thread?? Texas isn't the only example ... did OU just spend $100 million on football faciliites, Iowa $100 million, Michigan is set to spend over $200 million, Minn. over $250 million, Wisconsion over $100 million ... there's $1.6 BILLION dollars worth of facilities on the drawing board, or just completed in the Big 12 ... KSU is 1.25% of that number, two straight last place finishes ... apparently all the people that run those other schools are complete idiots.
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What difference does that make? The point still stands and the results speak for themselves.
Perhaps, when you consider the all the scenarios, KSU should have dropped to I-A status. The reason that KSU dropped has little to do with facilities. A man with your intellectual ability should have figured that out, or was it lost in the hard drive crash as well?
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You're the one making the stupid ass statements.
Texas didn't start spending huge dollars on football facilities until 1997 Rod ... well guess what?? 8 years later they've won 2 BCS bowls, a Big 12 Championship and a National Title.
Give it a rest, you've lost!!
Plus, I have never said that KSU was dropping off solely because of facilities ... but you choose to miss that as well. You're the consumate PowerTard.
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You're the one making the stupid ass statements.
Texas didn't start spending huge dollars on football facilities until 1997 Rod ... well guess what?? 8 years later they've won 2 BCS bowls, a Big 12 Championship and a National Title.
Give it a rest, you've lost!!
Plus, I have never said that KSU was dropping off solely because of facilities ... but you choose to miss that as well. You're the consumate PowerTard.
Didn't you argue a while back that stars didn't matter?
And facilities do matter as well, but there are outliers (like Bill Snyder)
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Yeah ... back when nobody had been given any stars yet.
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You're the one making the stupid ass statements.
Texas didn't start spending huge dollars on football facilities until 1997 Rod ... well guess what?? 8 years later they've won 2 BCS bowls, a Big 12 Championship and a National Title.
Give it a rest, you've lost!!
I didn't lose anything. You haven't shown jack diddly squat period. You seem to forget that the State of Texas has emphasized high school football and development of talent far ahead of most states. It has little to do with the facilities UT has built and more towards the Texas high schools creating more emphasis on developing players. You only see what you want to see, and not the big picture. It's not about facilities, it's about getting kids to come play for you.
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So I guess all the schools spending on the money on facilities are just a bunch complete idiots and it's a total waste of money.
I guess if you just talk right to the kids, have the right sales pitch, and your school is in a talent laden area you've got it made. Man, what a bunch of dumbasses at Texas ... didn't they know all you had to was bring in the right talker and it was they needed to do. Gosh, I wonder why Mack Brown asked for all those faciilties when he just could've talked guys like Vince Young into going to school there even if the dressing room was a Porta Pottie.
What are Bob Stoops and Joe Castiglione thinking?? Why has Florida State spent $120 million on football facilities in the last decade ... don't they realize they're in Florida and that's all that matters??
Heck, why did KSU even bother to go into $4 million dollars worth of debt in 1992 to build faciilties?? What a bunch of idiots.
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Unreal. Just like our stars arguments. MJROD has no thought process.
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So I guess all the schools spending on the money on facilities are just a bunch complete idiots and it's a total waste of money.
I guess if you just talk right to the kids, have the right sales pitch, and your school is in a talent laden area you've got it made. Man, what a bunch of dumbasses at Texas ... didn't they know all you had to was bring in the right talker and it was they needed to do. Gosh, I wonder why Mack Brown asked for all those faciilties when he just could've talked guys like Vince Young into going to school there even if the dressing room was a Porta Pottie.
What are Bob Stoops and Joe Castiglione thinking?? Why has Florida State spent $120 million on football facilities in the last decade ... don't they realize they're in Florida and that's all that matters??
Heck, why did KSU even bother to go into $4 million dollars worth of debt in 1992 to build faciilties?? What a bunch of idiots.
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You just keep shooting yourself in the foot everytime you respond.
Schools spend money on facilities to provide the best environment for athletic development with new techniques and equipment to help train the athletes better. I think it's great that schools do that and show interest in trying to develop athletes with the best available. That's always a good thing. The problem is, the best facilities do not replace things such as coaching and educational opportunities. Facilities are not the sole or even MAIN reason a kid goes to a school, but in your world they are. But for you, the answer is always spend money on the facilities, and that will bring the kids and championships. Uh huh.
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You're living in la la land.
You think NU just spent $60 million dollars of which $40 was spent on the new Osborne Center just to provide an environment for better athletic development??
You're drunk.
Plus, you and the other powertards only chose to read what you wanted ... I never once suggested KSU spend $150 million bucks ... or that facilities was the be all and end all.
But you've got your head buried Bill Snyder and "no emails or text messages to recruits" deep if you don't think facilities are important and that KSU is behind.
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You're living in la la land.
You think NU just spent $60 million dollars of which $40 was spent on the new Osborne Center just to provide an environment for better athletic development??
You're drunk.
Right. They spent all that money so it looks nice in the recruiting brochures.
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Yeah ... recruits never visit, they just read about it in the brochures ... good god you're a dumbass.
No recruit that's seen the new faciities at NU is impressed in the least. The AD at NU didn't name OU and Texas by name in terms of keeping up with them when he announced the project.
It had nothing to do with recruiting??
Go sell crazy somewhere else.
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Yeah ... recruits never visit, they just read about it in the brochures ... good god you're a dumbass.
No recruit that's seen the new faciities at NU is impressed in the least.
Yeah, I'm sure this is how a recruit looks at a school...
1. Facilities.
Everything else.
Good one.
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Never said that Rod ... quit being a PowerTard and saying stuff I never said.
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Wow...this is one gigantic meltdown.
NC, take a breath. From what I am seeing you can't be happy about anything. Go outside, walk around, get some fresh air and sunlight instead of constantly crapping over this entire board. Life exists outside of how you believe the K-State athletic department should be run, what Ron Prince is doing at this exact moment, or what the brickwork will be on Vanier.
Get a good night's sleep, have a nice dinner out with your wife, hug your kids/grandkids, enjoy a Mackinaw Peach or whatever does it for you.
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I never said we shouldn't spend money on facilities either.
And the only tard in this thread happens to be you.
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mjrod...please..shut up
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mjrod...please..shut up
Go back home little boy.
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Wow...this is one gigantic meltdown.
NC, take a breath. From what I am seeing you can't be happy about anything. Go outside, walk around, get some fresh air and sunlight instead of constantly crapping over this entire board. Life exists outside of how you believe the K-State athletic department should be run, what Ron Prince is doing at this exact moment, or what the brickwork will be on Vanier.
Get a good night's sleep, have a nice dinner out with your wife, hug your kids/grandkids, enjoy a Mackinaw Peach or whatever does it for you.
Not a meltdown in the least Fausto. :rolleyes: Plus, I don't think I've said anything about how the athletic department should be run in this thread.
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Facilities are VERY important. The more we spend on those, the better, IMO.
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mjrod...please..shut up
Go back home little boy.
im 5' 9" at 14 i can tower over you
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mjrod...please..shut up
Go back home little boy.
im 5' 9" at 14 i can tower over you
Midgets tower over him.
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mjrod...please..shut up
Go back home little boy.
im 5' 9" at 14 i can tower over you
I was 5'9 at 14. Guess what? I'm still 5'9. Good luck with that.
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lol sucks for you man
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mjrod...please..shut up
Go back home little boy.
im 5' 9" at 14 i can tower over you
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What do you bench, roughly, 150? 155? Max?
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yea its not great..but it was when i was 13...i havent lifted durrin season this year thank you coach :rolleyes:
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Is it bad, that at 25, I don't think I could even bench 155?
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Should we try to keep up with anyone when it comes to facilities?
Mizzou?
Iowa State?
Kansas???
LMK
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no its not bad..im stronger than the freshman class except 2 and half the sophomores but as an adult yea its kinda bad..
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We are ahead of everyone in the North in facilities, except Nebraska.
If ku and ISU get their deals done, that could change.
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A lot of people couldn't bench 155. That's nothing to be ashamed of. He can't either so it's no big deal.
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We are ahead of everyone in the North in facilities, except Nebraska.
If ku and ISU get their deals done, that could change.
I don't think we're ahead of Mizzou. We would be an easy 5th in the south.
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We are ahead of everyone in the North in facilities, except Nebraska.
If ku and ISU get their deals done, that could change.
I don't think we're ahead of Mizzou. We would be an easy 5th in the south.
Are you talking stadiums, or overall facilities, including the complex, weight rooms, indoor practice facilities, etc?
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i wasn't saying that there was anything for him to be ashamed of..there isn't who you are is who you are (and i didn't learn that at sincitivity training either :P)
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i wasn't saying that there was anything for him to be ashamed of..there isn't who you are is who you are (and i didn't learn that at sincitivity training either :P)
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We are ahead of everyone in the North in facilities, except Nebraska.
If ku and ISU get their deals done, that could change.
My point has never been that we shouldn't spend money on facilities, ever. My point is that I trust our AD to spend the money we do raise wisely. Dax, on the other hand, wants us to be like the programs who do spend a large amount of money, and quite frankly, I thought the purpose of facilities were to help develop the players athletically. That means, getting a facility that supports the development of athletics, not a gaudy assed marble and chrome building where the weights are polished every single day and the meeting rooms have ornately decorated wood murals of past glories. I see programs spending huge amount of moneys to satisfy donor ego's and not as much on the facilities improvements where it counts. I mean, let's face it, a huge ass 400 pound longhorn logo suspended in the ceiling of the locker room surrounded by lights does what for a player for $250,000?
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Missouri just completed a $17 million dollar addition to the Taylor Athletic Center which is almost all football related. New Sports Nutrition Center (training table) in there as well.
Of course none that really matters and recruits don't pay any attention to it.
Also MJ like the rest of the Powertards always thought I meant KSU should install Gold Platted Fixtures and 48 inch Plasma Screens in every locker, which I never once said was neccsesary.
Bottomline ... while Vanier has been improved and is pretty nice, I know for a fact the current coaches don't like it overall and they said so (poor layout, piecemeal structure, still have to herd the entire team upstairs for meetings and film breakout sessions)... they wanted the current construction stopped and the whole building torn down and started over from scratch ... Weiser offered that to Snyder 5 years ago and Coach "I don't have email and what's text messaging" said no. It was to late to meet the current staff's wishes ... but they requested and got a ton of changes to the design of which almost all were targeted to impress recruits (more TV's, Flat Screens etc. etc.)... which was done by a firm with really no clue as to what a BCS Conference D1 Football facility is all about.
ku will break ground on a new $31 million dollar football facility ... but its all for training athletes and was never intended nor never will be used to impress recruits ... never, ever, ever. They're spending $31 million for the hell of it.
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We are ahead of everyone in the North in facilities, except Nebraska.
If ku and ISU get their deals done, that could change.
My point has never been that we shouldn't spend money on facilities, ever. My point is that I trust our AD to spend the money we do raise wisely. Dax, on the other hand, wants us to be like the programs who do spend a large amount of money, and quite frankly, I thought the purpose of facilities were to help develop the players athletically. That means, getting a facility that supports the development of athletics, not a gaudy assed marble and chrome building where the weights are polished every single day and the meeting rooms have ornately decorated wood murals of past glories. I see programs spending huge amount of moneys to satisfy donor ego's and not as much on the facilities improvements where it counts. I mean, let's face it, a huge ass 400 pound longhorn logo suspended in the ceiling of the locker room surrounded by lights does what for a player for $250,000?
I think it'd be great if we could get to where a school like Texas Tech is.
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Missouri just completed a $17 million dollar addition to the Taylor Athletic Center which is almost all football related. New Sports Nutrition Center (training table) in there as well.
Of course none that really matters and recruits don't pay any attention to it.
Also MJ like the rest of the Powertards always thought I meant KSU should install Gold Platted Fixtures and 48 inch Plasma Screens in every locker, which I never once said was neccsesary.
Bottomline ... while Vanier has been improved and is pretty nice, I know for a fact the current coaches don't like it overall and they said so (poor layout, piecemeal structure, still have to herd the entire team upstairs for meetings and film breakout sessions)... they wanted the current construction stopped and the whole building torn down and started over from scratch ... Weiser offered that to Snyder 5 years ago and Coach "I don't have email and what's text messaging" said no. It was to late to meet the current staff's wishes ... but they requested and got a ton of changes to the design ... which was done by a firm with really no clue as to what a BCS Conference D1 Football facility is all about.
ku will break ground on a new $31 million dollar football facility ... but its all for training athletes and was never intended nor never will be used to impress recruits ... never, ever, ever. They're spending $31 million for the hell of it.
You think you could pull up that email or letter or whatever it is that says the coaches hated it and wanted to stop construction, or is that on a crashed hard drive as well?
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We are ahead of everyone in the North in facilities, except Nebraska.
If ku and ISU get their deals done, that could change.
My point has never been that we shouldn't spend money on facilities, ever. My point is that I trust our AD to spend the money we do raise wisely. Dax, on the other hand, wants us to be like the programs who do spend a large amount of money, and quite frankly, I thought the purpose of facilities were to help develop the players athletically. That means, getting a facility that supports the development of athletics, not a gaudy assed marble and chrome building where the weights are polished every single day and the meeting rooms have ornately decorated wood murals of past glories. I see programs spending huge amount of moneys to satisfy donor ego's and not as much on the facilities improvements where it counts. I mean, let's face it, a huge ass 400 pound longhorn logo suspended in the ceiling of the locker room surrounded by lights does what for a player for $250,000?
I think it'd be great if we could get to where a school like Texas Tech is.
Maybe we could move to Texas..
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Nope ... from a phone conversation and email with someone who would know ... and the Weiser offering to build Snyder a whole new faciilty was straight from the mouth of the AD at Illinois State about 3 years ago.
You're getting as bad as Phagnet now MJ.
I just made this all up ... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Nope ... from a phone conversation with someone who would know ... and the Weiser offering to build Snyder a whole new faciilty was straight from the mouth of the AD at Illinois State about 3 years ago.
You're getting as bad as Phagnet now MJ.
I just made this all up ... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I knew about the Snyder offer, I never heard about the Ron Prince issue, that was what I was focusing on. But I figured the answer would be the same.. "someone" told you. The same excuse about "it was on a crashed hard drive" or "No really, I might have called Weiser and idiot, but I don't know.."
Go figure.
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I mean, let's face it, a huge ass 400 pound longhorn logo suspended in the ceiling of the locker room surrounded by lights does what for a player for $250,000?
Feeds their ego.
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Check your PM dumbass.
Geezus ... you really are a Powertard.
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Check your PM dumbass.
Geezus ... you really are a Powertard.
I haven't been disassociated from the University on, as you call it, questionable reasons.
Replied.
Oh and ..
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Dax wants a couple thirty million dollar, watertower size signs that say "Please Commit Here" planted on campus grounds.
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Check your PM dumbass.
Geezus ... you really are a Powertard.
I haven't been disassociated from the University on, as you call it, questionable reasons.
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Oh and ..
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Rod ... taking Powertard to a whole new level.
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The conspiracy lives.
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The conspiracy lives.
Worst poster on the Internet PERIOD.
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The conspiracy lives.
Worst poster on the Internet PERIOD.
I know I've won when I see this come out. Desperate people always pull this one out.
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The conspiracy lives.
Worst poster on the Internet PERIOD.
I know I've won when I see this come out. Desperate people always pull this one out.
Rod pulls a Saddam Information Minister.
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The conspiracy lives.
Worst poster on the Internet PERIOD.
I know I've won when I see this come out. Desperate people always pull this one out.
Rod pulls a Saddam Information Minister.
The irony is thick in that comment.
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"Irony" ... I guess you're glory holing Goldie now.
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Can you ever come up with something more original? You seem to be favoring goldy a lot.
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......Cripple Fight!!!!!!
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mjrod is getting his arse owned in this thread.
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anyone got any KATPAK popcorn? :popcorn: