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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: sonofdaxjones on August 29, 2006, 02:28:35 PM
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Wildcat Walk ... cliche and gay.
Ron "Cliche" Prince.
"We are K-State" ... gee, where have I heard that before??
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"WE ARE" presents the highest possible connection between the fans and the team.
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"WE ARE" presents the highest possible connection between the fans and the team.
I thought winning did that??
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"WE ARE" presents the highest possible connection between the fans and the team.
I thought winning did that??
Winning creates bandwagon fans. We don't need any of those.
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I don't like either as of now, but I'm sure every though "good for a wildcat first down" was gay back before we owned the conference.
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god i love the new and improved sonofdaxjones
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My main point is, KSU Stadium is not a collegial atmosphere around the stadium. Dropping off the guys on a big blacktop parking lot isn't anywhere close to the "walks" that other teams do at other schools.
When they get Jardine redeveloped, that's going to be an awesome place, with a big archway on the one corner going into campus and the study/meeting tower, and the walk through the middle past ponds and such ... then doing something like a "walk" will be cool.
But not now.
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My main point is, KSU Stadium is not a collegial atmosphere around the stadium. Dropping off the guys on a big blacktop parking lot isn't anywhere close to the "walks" that other teams do at other schools.
When they get Jardine redeveloped, that's going to be an awesome place, with a big archway on the one corner going into campus and the study/meeting tower, and the walk through the middle past ponds and such ... then doing something like a "walk" will be cool.
But not now.
:love:
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It's fine.
I'm all for it.
This world has ceased having anything that would not be considered cliche.
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"WE ARE" presents the highest possible connection between the fans and the team.
I thought winning did that??
Wooly managed to make a strong connection with a lot of fans despite not winning.
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"WE ARE" presents the highest possible connection between the fans and the team.
I thought winning did that??
Wooly managed to make a strong connection with a lot of fans despite not winning.
yeah, and goldy takes it up the ass.
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"WE ARE" presents the highest possible connection between the fans and the team.
I thought winning did that??
Wooly managed to make a strong connection with a lot of fans despite not winning.
yeah, and goldy takes it up the ass.
Um, good one? :confused:
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"WE ARE" presents the highest possible connection between the fans and the team.
I thought winning did that??
Wooly managed to make a strong connection with a lot of fans despite not winning.
yeah, and goldy takes it up the ass.
Um, good one? :confused:
it was on topic... the subject line is "gay....."
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My main point is, KSU Stadium is not a collegial atmosphere around the stadium. Dropping off the guys on a big blacktop parking lot isn't anywhere close to the "walks" that other teams do at other schools.
When they get Jardine redeveloped, that's going to be an awesome place, with a big archway on the one corner going into campus and the study/meeting tower, and the walk through the middle past ponds and such ... then doing something like a "walk" will be cool.
But not now.
Right on.
My first thought when I saw this was: "What? They're gonna do a walk across the parking lot? Uh, cool?"
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Dax is still bitter they didn't get his trees planted in the parking lots. :)
I agree completely. Has there been an announcement about this? Where will the players start/come from? Will they be bused in and just walk off the bus into the parking lot? Just let them concentrate on the game. Sounds like it's time for Prince to focus on winning games and less time on how to get fans involved. Prince has to have Snyder going crazy.
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My main point is, KSU Stadium is not a collegial atmosphere around the stadium. Dropping off the guys on a big blacktop parking lot isn't anywhere close to the "walks" that other teams do at other schools.
When they get Jardine redeveloped, that's going to be an awesome place, with a big archway on the one corner going into campus and the study/meeting tower, and the walk through the middle past ponds and such ... then doing something like a "walk" will be cool.
But not now.
it will be nice when they get that ksu gardens area done too
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I agree with dax that this is a lame idea, and the fact that dax and I, or any ku fan, agree on something is remarkable. But I digress.
The thing that I wonder about is why on Earth is Ron Prince so intent on shining the spotlight on himself and the team (usually in that order) right after replacing Coach Snyder? You would think that it would be enough of a challenge to be a first time head head coach at a high profile school, coming off of 2 straight losing seasons, and replacing a legend without constantly calling attention to himself and the team.
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That's how Prince rolls.
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I agree with dax that this is a lame idea, and the fact that dax and I, or any ku fan, agree on something is remarkable. But I digress.
The thing that I wonder about is why on Earth is Ron Prince so intent on shining the spotlight on himself and the team (usually in that order) right after replacing Coach Snyder? You would think that it would be enough of a challenge to be a first time head head coach at a high profile school, coming off of 2 straight losing seasons, and replacing a legend without constantly calling attention to himself and the team.
It's all about marketing an image. Without the types of traditions Prince is attempting to develop, it's tougher to market kids. Prince started early on by developing a newer, younger image of KSU Football that Snyder never really got too much into :P
I don't know what kind of coach that Prince will turn out to be, no one does yet. One thing he's proven already though is that he does understand the importance of creating the KSU Football brand image and using all channels available to him to deliver it to potential recruits, as well as fans.
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Since the early 90's the reality of KSU football was a hard nosed, effecient, and very successful football program. If RP has to market an image, then it say more about the program than it does about RP.
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Actually, every business needs to continue to evolve and redefine itself to cater to its customers/recruits.
Prince is putting his mark on the program, doesn't mean we can't still be hard nosed, efficient, and successfull does it?
If you can tell me the harm in the Wildcat Walk or whatever the hell he wants to call it we can discuss further, if you simply don't like the idea I don't think it matters much since your not the reason it was created anyways.
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And before you reply with the obligatory "Notre Dame, Miami, FSU don't have to reinvent themselves", I'll go ahead and admit that we're not Notre Dame, Miami, or FSU.
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We will probably have more people at our home opener than Miami does.
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And before you reply with the obligatory "Notre Dame, Miami, FSU don't have to reinvent themselves", I'll go ahead and admit that we're not Notre Dame, Miami, or FSU.
Didn't Prince say something to the effect that when he was done with Kstate they'd be thought of in college football moreso than ND?
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we'll have more than Miami of Ohio
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And before you reply with the obligatory "Notre Dame, Miami, FSU don't have to reinvent themselves", I'll go ahead and admit that we're not Notre Dame, Miami, or FSU.
Didn't Prince say something to the effect that when he was done with Kstate they'd be thought of in college football moreso than ND?
Are you looking for someone to defend that statement?
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Okay fine, RP is selling the program.
This is starting to sound more and more like a has-been program, with a lot of hope by the KSU faithful that this doesn't slip any further. Bottom line is that if KSU football program was not in such a perilous state, RP would have no reason to have to sell, market, or whatever else you call it to get fan interest.
Otherwise, why not hunker down and just get the job done without all the fanfare BS?
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Kids don't care about gay ass traditions, they care about playing for a winner. Prince can market the fact that unlike KSU's last HC he's not old enough to need carbon dating and the kids will react to it. His biggest problem (other than the fact that his team is about to start playing games) is that his public persona is a bit too much P.T. Barnum and not quite enough Clint Eastwood. Nothing wrong with a little marketing but RP needs to get with the program and shift into, "Go ahead, make my day," mode pronto.
But unlike our squawk neighbors at least he doesn't have to market the fact tht his ass is so massive that its gravitational pull sucks the sh1t right back in. (And you guys thought no one could explain why Mangino just keeps on getting bigger). :yuck:
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Just about everything he does these days screams "me! me!...look at me"
.......and it all seems to have a high school mentality
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Would one of those gay ass traditions be the Wildcat Walk?
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http://members.cox.net/fatty4ksu/raheem.mpg
dumbass.
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:jerkoff:
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Just about everything he does these days screams "me! me!...look at me"
.......and it all seems to have a high school mentality
$hit...now I have to agree with this squawk about something.
The GP folks will go apecrap over this walk, however.
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Yeah, but it didn't hurt NEARLY as much as me having to agree with Dax about something.
What are the odds that Prince will be first in line when they high five the grade school kiddies as they walk across the blacktop?
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Okay fine, RP is selling the program.
This is starting to sound more and more like a has-been program, with a lot of hope by the KSU faithful that this doesn't slip any further. Bottom line is that if KSU football program was not in such a perilous state, RP would have no reason to have to sell, market, or whatever else you call it to get fan interest.
Otherwise, why not hunker down and just get the job done without all the fanfare BS?
Kinda like how ku runs commercials for their football program every 3 seconds?
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If you can tell me the harm in the Wildcat Walk or whatever the hell he wants to call it we can discuss further, if you simply don't like the idea I don't think it matters much since your not the reason it was created anyways.
The only harm this can do is if there are no fans there to welcome the Team across the parking lot, and it just an awkward jog to the staduim.... If I were a player and I was told we were going to walk through a sea of fans to get them hyped up, and no one showed, that would probably hurt my confidence a bit... Likewise, if it turned out to a couple thousand screaming beatles style, I'd be that much more jacked... I think this idea is lame now, but could actually turn into a pretty cool tradition that the young children will probably love - and light that fire a little earlier in the players.
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Kids don't care about gay ass traditions, they care about playing for a winner. Prince can market the fact that unlike KSU's last HC he's not old enough to need carbon dating and the kids will react to it. His biggest problem (other than the fact that his team is about to start playing games) is that his public persona is a bit too much P.T. Barnum and not quite enough Clint Eastwood. Nothing wrong with a little marketing but RP needs to get with the program and shift into, "Go ahead, make my day," mode pronto.
But unlike our squawk neighbors at least he doesn't have to market the fact tht his ass is so massive that its gravitational pull sucks the sh1t right back in. (And you guys thought no one could explain why Mangino just keeps on getting bigger). :yuck:
All that kids care about playing for a winner? Agree that's a piece of it, but not all of it. If that were true then Snyder would never have gotten the kids he needed to win in the first place.
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If you can tell me the harm in the Wildcat Walk or whatever the hell he wants to call it we can discuss further, if you simply don't like the idea I don't think it matters much since your not the reason it was created anyways.
The only harm this can do is if there are no fans there to welcome the Team across the parking lot, and it just an awkward jog to the staduim.... If I were a player and I was told we were going to walk through a sea of fans to get them hyped up, and no one showed, that would probably hurt my confidence a bit... Likewise, if it turned out to a couple thousand screaming beatles style, I'd be that much more jacked... I think this idea is lame now, but could actually turn into a pretty cool tradition that the young children will probably love - and light that fire a little earlier in the players.
Do you actually think our football team is going to walk though the parking lot (both of which are filled to capacity with drunk fans) and no one is going to be there cheering them on? Seriously... I think it will go over great.
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Just about everything he does these days screams "me! me!...look at me"
.......and it all seems to have a high school mentality
$hit...now I have to agree with this squawk about something.
The GP folks will go ape@#%$ over this walk, however.
Exactly, and there are a hell of a lot more of them than there are us. :thumbsup:
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Called the "Wildcat Walk," K-State players and coaches will be dropped off approximately two-and-a-half hours prior to each game at Gate 3 on College Avenue in the west parking lot of Bill Snyder Family Stadium. The team will then make its way to the stadium through the parking lot on foot, eventually entering the facility through Gate C on the west concourse.
The program is encouraging fans to participate in the "Wildcat Walk" throughout the season by lining a path to the stadium and greeting the players as they arrive on game day.
That's a long fricking walk. I think pulling up on Kimball in front of Vanier and having them walk in with fans forming a path sounds better.
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If you can tell me the harm in the Wildcat Walk or whatever the hell he wants to call it we can discuss further, if you simply don't like the idea I don't think it matters much since your not the reason it was created anyways.
The only harm this can do is if there are no fans there to welcome the Team across the parking lot, and it just an awkward jog to the staduim.... If I were a player and I was told we were going to walk through a sea of fans to get them hyped up, and no one showed, that would probably hurt my confidence a bit... Likewise, if it turned out to a couple thousand screaming beatles style, I'd be that much more jacked... I think this idea is lame now, but could actually turn into a pretty cool tradition that the young children will probably love - and light that fire a little earlier in the players.
Do you actually think our football team is going to walk though the parking lot (both of which are filled to capacity with drunk fans) and no one is going to be there cheering them on? Seriously... I think it will go over great.
That was kind of my point. I think this can turn out to be a simi-good idea.
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All that kids care about playing for a winner? Agree that's a piece of it, but not all of it. If that were true then Snyder would never have gotten the kids he needed to win in the first place.
Snyder would have gotten better players than he did after the team was an established winner as well.
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That's why I said that's a piece of it.
Kids also like to feel like they can help rebuild, turnaround, have an impact.
Winners usually have a lot of talent, too much talent in front of you means it's going to be hard to see the field.
At the end of the day if you don't give a crap about the Wildcat Walk don't go watch them walk the lot, not that big of an issue eh?
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Just about everything he does these days screams "me! me!...look at me"
.......and it all seems to have a high school mentality
As opposed to Marketing Guru and Media Mogul Mark Mangino's
BLUE WINGS RISING...
Best idea ever, aside from eating anything his manbearpig arms can reach.
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At the end of the day if you don't give a crap about the Wildcat Walk don't go watch them walk the lot, not that big of an issue eh?
You're poo-pooing dax's poo-pooing again? You should be busting out a masterpiece with MS Paint. I'm thinking a lynch mob sign theme might be a good idea.
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it wouldn't surprise me at all if the resident nancies would have loved this idea had snyder floated it when he was coach.
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we'll have more than Miami of Ohio
More than Miami, Florida.
People really don't go to Miami games.
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Here's the thing ... Snyder wouldn't have thought of doing this.
You think he'd really want his guys walking across a blacktop parking lot at 3 pm in early September??
I understand one thing being tossed about by the folks at HOK, is an "avenue" entry running through the middle of the West Parking Lot up to a totally overhauled West Side of the Stadium. Doing a "walk" through something like that would be cool.
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Manufactured "traditions" are cool...really.
No, really...I'm serious.
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WN, did you like the cannon?
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Point taken Java ... but the cannon was something that a student group decided to do on their own ... I forgot which frat house it was though now.
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yeah, this seems a little too much like giving yourself a nick-name, then telling all of your friends to only refer to you as that name.
Like Toad or the Three Amigoes
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I think it's cool.
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"BUT I"M T-BONE!"
-Costanza
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You like Harley Day?
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You like Harley Day?
It's ok. I like it because its very loud. Other than that, kind of redneck-ish.
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What we really need is KATPAK day, where we have a Stealth bomber fly over the stadium and drop KATPAKs onto us all.
That way we can all be PAK'N.
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You like Harley Day?
I like the bikes...
I wouldn't call it "tradition".
It's definitely odd.
The guy can do whatever he wants, but he reminds me of someone trying to hard to prove himself and make his mark.
There's a tradition I miss...it's called winning and hitting and playing with toughness. And playing SMART...ie. not snapping the football without a punter back there or fielding a punt and fumbling it to give the game away, etc...
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You like Harley Day?
I like the bikes...
I wouldn't call it "tradition".
It's definitely odd.
The guy can do whatever he wants, but he reminds me of someone trying to hard to prove himself and make his mark.
Why is that bad?
There's a tradition I miss...it's called winning and hitting and playing with toughness. And playing SMART...ie. not snapping the football without a punter back there or fielding a punt and fumbling it to give the game away, etc...
That's Weiser's fault? I'd blame Chum1.
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There's a tradition I miss...it's called winning and hitting and playing with toughness. And playing SMART...ie. not snapping the football without a punter back there or fielding a punt and fumbling it to give the game away, etc...
Well, some people hate him when he hasn't even got a chance to prove that this will be a tradition. If it is, all this other crap will be looked upon as a good thing or people won't care.
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I'm talkin' about Prince.
Maybe i'm the only one, but to me when he quotes these books, he sounds like the douche Harvard guy in the bar in the movie Good Will Hunting.
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Agreed, I'm sick of the scary smart crap.
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I don't hate him...I hate the "look at me" BS.
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i will say the "we are Kstate" thing at the spring game was very forced and retarded. Especially when one of the cheerleaders raised her sign too early and several of us chanted... Are We? Kstate?
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Maybe i'm the only one, but to me when he quotes these books, he sounds like the douche Harvard guy in the bar in the movie Good Will Hunting.
Well, hopefully this is Ron Prince, "I got her numba...how do you like 'dem apples?"
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i will say the "we are Kstate" thing at the spring game was very forced and retarded. Especially when one of the cheerleaders raised her sign too early and several of us chanted... Are We? Kstate?
:loly:
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Maybe i'm the only one, but to me when he quotes these books, he sounds like the douche Harvard guy in the bar in the movie Good Will Hunting.
Well, hopefully this is Ron Prince, "I got her numba...how do you like 'dem apples?"
I was kinda hoping for "You ever desecrate my team again, I will fuggin' END YOU"....but dem apples will work.
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Prince would probably challenge his opponent to a fencing match.
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yeah, this seems a little too much like giving yourself a nick-name, then telling all of your friends to only refer to you as that name.
Like Toad or the Three Amigoes
i was thinking "lynch mob"
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Wildcat Walk ... cliche and gay.
Ron "Cliche" Prince.
"We are K-State" ... gee, where have I heard that before??
We are K-State....except for sonofdaxjones.
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We are K-State....except for sonofdaxjones.
I laughed. Sorry dax.
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i find it funny that ku fans are dogging on prince's media whoring... aren't you guys the team that took a bunch of glorified close-ups of your football players, trying to make them look like male models?? :jerkoff: :jerkoff:
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I loved the picture of the ku football team behind the scoreboard after they beat........Missouri. A team KSU hasn't lost to since 1992.
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There's a tradition I miss...it's called winning and hitting and playing with toughness. And playing SMART...ie. not snapping the football without a punter back there or fielding a punt and fumbling it to give the game away, etc...
That's Weiser's fault? I'd blame Chum1.
Why? All I ever did was email the below picture to Tim Weiser signed, "Sincerely, sonofdaxjones."
(http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/29db221011.jpg)
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None of your crap ever loads.
fyi.
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"I was K-State" ... Sonofdaxjones.
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There's a tradition I miss...it's called winning and hitting and playing with toughness. And playing SMART...ie. not snapping the football without a punter back there or fielding a punt and fumbling it to give the game away, etc...
That's Weiser's fault? I'd blame Chum1.
Why? All I ever did was email the below picture to Tim Weiser signed, "Sincerely, sonofdaxjones."
(http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/29db221011.jpg)
See I told ya, that crap's corrupt. CHUM1 SUCK IT.
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And before you reply with the obligatory "Notre Dame, Miami, FSU don't have to reinvent themselves", I'll go ahead and admit that we're not Notre Dame, Miami, or FSU.
Didn't Prince say something to the effect that when he was done with Kstate they'd be thought of in college football moreso than ND?
Are you looking for someone to defend that statement?
Tim Weiser reads these boards. Maybe he will.
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See I told ya, that @#%$'s corrupt. CHUM1 SUCK IT.
Damn it! Foiled again. Take this:
(http://media.scout.com/media/image/19/198897.gif)PISSANTBEARDEDCLAM
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Modified HAWKPAK 2006 (August) "MH2006A".
(http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/8620/headcovercc2.jpg)
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Yes! Supersize me.