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Title: In other news:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 21, 2006, 12:13:34 PM
Jason King thinks Lew's ejaculate tastes sort of like salty spearmint gum.

Ex-ku aide: ‘Mangino had no involvement’
Former graduate assistant linked to academic-fraud case says Kansas head coach didn’t play a role in violations.
By JASON KING
The Kansas City Star
LAWRENCE | A key figure in the academic-fraud charges dogging the Kansas football program said head coach Mark Mangino had no knowledge that violations were taking place.

Speaking on the condition of anonymity, a former Kansas graduate assistant coach linked to the improprieties discussed the case with The Star on Sunday.

“I’ve maintained from day one that Mark Mangino had no involvement whatsoever,” the former coach said. “He never asked us or told us to do anything wrong. In no way did I ever feel like he was trying to cut a corner.”

Told of the comments by the former graduate assistant, ku athletic director Lew Perkins said Sunday: “I’m pleased to hear that the young man said that, because it’s something we’ve known all along. Mark was never charged with anything. He didn’t do anything wrong. We’ve supported him 100 percent.”

Perkins declined further comment. He said the NCAA has asked him and his staff not to speak publicly about any aspect of the case.

According to investigations conducted by both Kansas and the NCAA, members of the Jayhawks’ coaching staff provided improper assistance to a handful of junior-college recruits who were attempting to gain academic eligibility while taking classes at ku in the summer of 2003.

“It was a recipe for disaster,” one former ku assistant told The Star last week. “We brought in a bunch of guys who had no history of academic success and asked them to pass 12-15 hours in one summer.”

The investigations found that assistant coaches gave the recruits advice about which classes to take, helped them enroll in some of those classes, assisted them with test answers, let them use university computers to complete coursework, gave them rides to testing sites and, in one instance, served as a proctor during an exam.

Two of the aides named in the report were graduate assistants at the time of the violations. One of them was John Papuchis, who’s now on the staff at LSU. Papuchis has repeatedly declined to comment when reached by The Star.

The other was the one interviewed Sunday. He is currently out of coaching.

“I may have given a kid a ride somewhere or let him use a computer that he wasn’t supposed to use,” the former graduate assistant said. “I was young, and I was trying to impress the people above me. Obviously I made some mistakes, but I honestly didn’t realize I was doing anything wrong.”

Kansas self-reported the violations to the NCAA last summer after uncovering them during a two-year investigation that ended with the athletic department placing itself on two years’ probation. The amount of junior-college scholarships ku can offer was also reduced.

The question now is whether the NCAA will level any additional sanctions after ku’s hearing last week with the Committee on Infractions. A decision is expected sometime next month.

“People are making a mountain out of a molehill ... it was carelessness more than anything,” the former graduate assistant said.

He said he and Papuchis had little contact with Mangino during the summer of 2003. He said it was Kansas’ assistant coaches and academic staff — not Mangino — who often asked for updates about the academic progress of a recruit.

Besides admitting giving recruits rides to testing sites and to letting them use university computers, the former graduate assistant wouldn’t discuss any of the violations in detail — including one in which he’s accused of helping prospective athletes with test answers.

“Let’s just say I don’t agree with everything that’s in that report,” the former graduate assistant said.

He said he never would have committed an infraction had he known it was illegal. The former graduate assistant said ku’s compliance department and academic staff didn’t provide enough guidance for coaches.

“The biggest problem was that we didn’t have a good understanding of the rules,” he said. “Having a good rules-education system in place would’ve prevented this stuff from happening.”

Kansas admitted in its self-report that the compliance office failed to properly educate ku employees on NCAA rules. The university has since taken steps to make improvements in that area.

The former graduate assistant said it also would have helped if Kansas had been a little more selective when it came to signing players. The Jayhawks’ 2003 recruiting class included 12 junior-college transfers.

“I’d say we were put in a tough situation considering we had kids there that needed to pass 12-15 hours that summer,” he said. “That next year we looked back on it and said, ‘What were we thinking?’ ”

The former graduate assistant said he hopes to get past this and possibly return to a career in football.

“It’s just not something I want to be associated with ... All of this stuff happened so long ago,” he said. “I want to distance myself from it and move on.”

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/15321946.htm
Title: Re: In other news:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 21, 2006, 02:15:08 PM
Keitzman calling out squawks now on this.

Any reports on how the Boycott of Keitzman isn't going on the phog??

Title: Re: In other news:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 21, 2006, 02:22:19 PM
When will we start finding dead bodies on all of this.

Can a bus really run over this many people??

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Post by: bigdeal on August 21, 2006, 03:04:50 PM
“I may have given a kid a ride somewhere or let him use a computer that he wasn’t supposed to use,” the former graduate assistant said. “I was young, and I was trying to impress the people above me. Obviously I made some mistakes, but I honestly didn’t realize I was doing anything wrong.”

Kansas self-reported the violations to the NCAA last summer after uncovering them during a two-year investigation that ended with the athletic department placing itself on two years’ probation. The amount of junior-college scholarships ku can offer was also reduced.

The question now is whether the NCAA will level any additional sanctions after ku’s hearing last week with the Committee on Infractions. A decision is expected sometime next month.

“People are making a mountain out of a molehill ... it was carelessness more than anything,” the former graduate assistant said.

He said he and Papuchis had little contact with Mangino during the summer of 2003. He said it was Kansas’ assistant coaches and academic staff — not Mangino — who often asked for updates about the academic progress of a recruit.

Besides admitting giving recruits rides to testing sites and to letting them use university computers, the former graduate assistant wouldn’t discuss any of the violations in detail — including one in which he’s accused of helping prospective athletes with test answers.

“Let’s just say I don’t agree with everything that’s in that report,” the former graduate assistant said.

He said he never would have committed an infraction had he known it was illegal. The former graduate assistant said ku’s compliance department and academic staff didn’t provide enough guidance for coaches.

“The biggest problem was that we didn’t have a good understanding of the rules,” he said. “Having a good rules-education system in place would’ve prevented this stuff from happening.”

Kansas admitted in its self-report that the compliance office failed to properly educate ku employees on NCAA rules. The university has since taken steps to make improvements in that area.

The former graduate assistant said it also would have helped if Kansas had been a little more selective when it came to signing players. The Jayhawks’ 2003 recruiting class included 12 junior-college transfers.

“I’d say we were put in a tough situation considering we had kids there that needed to pass 12-15 hours that summer,” he said.

Can you say, "lack of institutional control". 

So, Mangino had no knowledge of this...yet he likely is aware of recruiting, probably knew of the academic history of these kids...how did he expect them to get past the workload?  Sometimes, someone at the top puts others in positions where they know the options...then they put pressure on them to respond.  Keeps the top dog out, while leaving the underlings only two options 1. Quit, career suicide 2. Try to slide by and do what it takes. 

Mangino may have not been directly involved but he's an experienced coach, how did he think they got by?  Sometimes a lack of institutional control is intentional in order to gain an advantage. 

Just some thoughts.
Title: Re: In other news:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 21, 2006, 03:18:49 PM
Mmmkkay ..

Title: Re: In other news:
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on August 21, 2006, 04:27:24 PM
Keitzman calling out squawks now on this.


OH NOES!!!
Title: Re: In other news:
Post by: Joker on August 21, 2006, 07:14:33 PM
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Title: Re: In other news:
Post by: KSU176 on August 21, 2006, 08:41:24 PM
Hey Joker- I think you need to widen the mangino monkey to make it more realistic.