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Title: A Snyder retrospective ?
Post by: Wildcat Jack on August 16, 2006, 07:20:29 AM
What was the year that Snyder had a plethora of QB's?
Title: Re: A Snyder retrospective ?
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on August 16, 2006, 07:54:02 AM
What was the year that Snyder had a plethora of QB's?

Prince does not equal Snyder, Jack.

Didn't we have Helm, Bishop, Beasley on the same team?   Pretty decent.

Title: Re: A Snyder retrospective ?
Post by: Wildcat Jack on August 16, 2006, 08:17:56 AM
What was the year that Snyder had a plethora of QB's?

Prince does not equal Snyder, Jack.

Didn't we have Helm, Bishop, Beasley on the same team?   Pretty decent.



Nation,
I'm sorry that YOU inferred I was trying to say Prince = Snyder.  I didn't say that and will only say that when Prince proves that he is.  This isn't about Ron Prince.  This is a reasonable look at our QB situation through recent history.

Oh yes good example.  You mean Adam Helm the walk on?  You mean Beasley the first year frosh?  You mean Bishop the transfer? and Bishop's second year Helm still was unproven.  Bishop was a stud and Beasley red-shirted.
Title: Re: A Snyder retrospective ?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 16, 2006, 08:34:14 AM
I don't think Snyder ever had a "plethora" of QB's.

I recall some decent combo's, one very good combo.

I don't remember who backed up Carl Straw ... I think it may have been the kid from Hiawatha, that started and played respecfully against NU in Tokyo in '92, replacing Smargesso.

Watson-Smargesso

Didn't Matt Miller backup May in '94??

Miller-Kavenaugh in '95.

I don't remember at all who backed up Kavenaugh in '96. 

Clearly the best tandem on paper was Beasley-Bishop.

Title: Re: A Snyder retrospective ?
Post by: pissclams on August 16, 2006, 08:36:49 AM
I'd love to go to Kstatesports.com and look up all this crap but they don't have any of this type of information.
Why does our website suck so much. : :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Title: Re: A Snyder retrospective ?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 16, 2006, 08:47:29 AM
Actually, they have the K-State Football Media guide on line.

K-State actually has a pretty good athletic department website compared to many schools.

Title: Re: A Snyder retrospective ?
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on August 16, 2006, 08:51:05 AM
What was the year that Snyder had a plethora of QB's?

Prince does not equal Snyder, Jack.

Didn't we have Helm, Bishop, Beasley on the same team?   Pretty decent.



Nation,
I'm sorry that YOU inferred I was trying to say Prince = Snyder.  I didn't say that and will only say that when Prince proves that he is.  This isn't about Ron Prince.  This is a reasonable look at our QB situation through recent history.

Oh yes good example.  You mean Adam Helm the walk on?  You mean Beasley the first year frosh?  You mean Bishop the transfer? and Bishop's second year Helm still was unproven.  Bishop was a stud and Beasley red-shirted.

I'm fairly certain we always had a scout team QB under Snyder.

The point is, KSU was in a great situation...now they aren't.

Title: Re: A Snyder retrospective ?
Post by: Wildcat Jack on August 16, 2006, 12:17:03 PM
I don't think Snyder ever had a "plethora" of QB's.

I recall some decent combo's, one very good combo.

I don't remember who backed up Carl Straw ... I think it may have been the kid from Hiawatha, that started and played respecfully against NU in Tokyo in '92, replacing Smargesso.

Watson-Smargesso

Didn't Matt Miller backup May in '94??

Miller-Kavenaugh in '95.

I don't remember at all who backed up Kavenaugh in '96. 

Clearly the best tandem on paper was Beasley-Bishop.



Dax, thanks.  They were always tandems. 

Straw-Watson
Watson-Smargiasso
Smargiasso-Garber (a truly pathetic year of quaterbacking)
May-Miller-Kavanaugh
Miller-Kavanaugh
Bishop-Beasley
Beasley-Helm-Roberson
Roberson-Schwinn
Roberson-Dunn

What was the year that Snyder had a plethora of QB's?

Prince does not equal Snyder, Jack.

Didn't we have Helm, Bishop, Beasley on the same team?   Pretty decent.



I'm fairly certain we always had a scout team QB under Snyder.

The point is, KSU was in a great situation...now they aren't.



Well we may have had a scout team QB, but that doesn't a plethora make.

And I don't agree with your point.  I don't think we're in much of a different QB situation than we've ever been under Snyder.  We had 5 quarterbacks on 'ship.  They led us to a total of 9 wins in the last two seasons...how was that so great?
Title: Re: A Snyder retrospective ?
Post by: kougar24 on August 16, 2006, 12:39:10 PM
Didn't some kid from Salina back Kavanaugh up in '96? I think he actually went to my church back in the day.
Title: Re: A Snyder retrospective ?
Post by: Wildcat Jack on August 17, 2006, 07:08:32 AM
Didn't some kid from Salina back Kavanaugh up in '96? I think he actually went to my church back in the day.

Oh I did forget the year Kavanaugh started. Was it Vidricksen???  I don't remember if he was #2 that year or not...Gosh, could it be we had Kavanaugh and the walk-on Vidricksen one year??   I think the point is being made.
Title: Re: A Snyder retrospective ?
Post by: MrWhite on August 17, 2006, 04:31:42 PM
i only remember lockett from the '96 offense.
Title: Re: A Snyder retrospective ?
Post by: Andy on August 18, 2006, 04:14:03 AM
Didn't some kid from Salina back Kavanaugh up in '96? I think he actually went to my church back in the day.

Oh I did forget the year Kavanaugh started. Was it Vidricksen???  I don't remember if he was #2 that year or not...Gosh, could it be we had Kavanaugh and the walk-on Vidricksen one year??   I think the point is being made.

qb's on the 96 team were:

Jonathan Beasley, Fr  Glendale, AZ
Zac Burton, Fr  Clay Center, KS
Adam Helm, Fr  Overland Park, KS
Brian Kavanagh, Sr  Naperville, IL
Tom Lund, Fr  Stilwell, KS
Casey Vidricksen, So  Salina, KS

hmm good thing we got Bishop the next season
Title: Re: A Snyder retrospective ?
Post by: Cat Maniac on August 19, 2006, 03:17:15 PM
Beasley backed up Kavanaugh as a true freshman in 1996.  His highlight for the year was a 50-yard touchdown bomb during junk time in a blowout game versus Indiana State.