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Title: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: fatty fat fat on August 14, 2006, 10:02:09 PM
You'll see a huge change in my opinion of Prince's recruiting if he picks the cats.

Where does everyone see him going?

I don't like that he wants to announce right after going to Iowa. Seems like Iowa to me.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on August 14, 2006, 10:31:38 PM
sounds like he picks iowa.  to quote another poster:

"the tone of the article sounds like he is talking 'we' when he speaks about iowa and 'they' when talking about us."
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: michigancat on August 14, 2006, 10:33:30 PM
Bill Snyder wouldn't have gotten him anyway.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: fatty fat fat on August 14, 2006, 10:39:22 PM
Bill Snyder wouldn't have gotten him anyway.

yeah, not only do I disagree with that it's a retarded way of thinking.

Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: michigancat on August 14, 2006, 10:40:00 PM
Bill Snyder wouldn't have gotten him anyway.

yeah, not only do I disagree with that it's a retarded way of thinking.



I agree.  With you.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: opcat on August 14, 2006, 11:04:57 PM
Manhatter says otherwise. Gopo site.

Excellent example of 3 star player everyone wants.  Might as well be  a 5 star player and future nfl prospect.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: fatty fat fat on August 15, 2006, 08:53:22 AM
Ouch.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: fatty fat fat on August 15, 2006, 08:56:02 AM
Nice job Prince. Couldn't land any of the top 3 in Kansas.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 15, 2006, 08:58:19 AM
Coach Scary Smart strikes again.

Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: fatty fat fat on August 15, 2006, 08:59:52 AM
Venables would have landed him.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: michigancat on August 15, 2006, 09:20:10 AM
Venables would probably be working on a 4-star LB from Texas, and Brian Smith would be a fallback plan.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: Joker on August 15, 2006, 09:25:59 AM
Venables would probably be working on a 4-star LB from Texas, and Brian Smith would be a fallback plan.

http://oklahoma.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?coach=80&sport=1&year=2007

Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on August 15, 2006, 09:27:19 AM
Was there really any suspense?

Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: fatty fat fat on August 15, 2006, 09:29:22 AM
Oh baby. (short breath)

(http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/Coach/PHOTO/VENABLES_BRENT150.JPG)
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on August 15, 2006, 09:38:24 AM
Can you imagine the buzz if KSU had hired someone we had heard of and could recruit?

Or, if we had coordinator's with any experience at all? 

This should be an interesting season.

Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: Joker on August 15, 2006, 09:39:24 AM
Oh baby. (short breath)

(http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/Coach/PHOTO/VENABLES_BRENT150.JPG)

Gotta admit, if this guy showed up on my doorstep with a set of $hitty encyclopedias...I'M A BUYIN!!
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 15, 2006, 10:38:22 AM
Here's my whole deal.

Don't talk ... just do it.  Don't run around and tell us how you're going to "lock down" the state, and run your mouth on and on about it, and then let a kid like Smith escape to Iowa.

Ya know ... another football coach did a lot of talking when he got to KSU, and even said this "we're going to get off the bus throwing the football" ... and by the end they ran the ball all the time.   

No Talker has ever won at KSU.

Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: Dan Rydell on August 15, 2006, 10:40:27 AM
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No Talker has ever won at KSU.

But this talker has a three-ring binder.

Seriously...this guy was literally hired *because* he could talk. 
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: Poopley on August 15, 2006, 10:42:35 AM
dude looks a little hopped up. i hope the media asks him if he still has his ksu computing access codes. he tried to hack in to the vanier football film system several times from his 'puter in norman and was caught. booby was NOT pleased.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on August 15, 2006, 10:45:35 AM
Here's my whole deal.

Don't talk ... just do it.  Don't run around and tell us how you're going to "lock down" the state, and run your mouth on and on about it, and then let a kid like Smith escape to Iowa.

Ya know ... another football coach did a lot of talking when he got to KSU, and even said this "we're going to get off the bus throwing the football" ... and by the end they ran the ball all the time.   

No Talker has ever won at KSU.



Well put.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: michigancat on August 15, 2006, 11:05:20 AM
dude looks a little hopped up. i hope the media asks him if he still has his ksu computing access codes. he tried to hack in to the vanier football film system several times from his 'puter in norman and was caught. booby was NOT pleased.

That's exactly the type of competitive fire we need.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: Poopley on August 15, 2006, 11:20:31 AM
(http://www.newhumanist.com/beavnbutt.jpg)
eh-heh
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: wildcatpete on August 15, 2006, 12:03:06 PM
I find all of this to be very disturbing.  I currently am living in St. Louis and can remember sports radio blitzing Missouri because they could not "Lock up the State" with recruiting.  Seems to me that is the problem KSU is now having.  Wasn't Prater a 3star recruit for Synder two years ago?  I hate losing quality players like that and I do not think that it bodes well for the long term success of the program.  It looks like kids are not excited about the coaching changes and their action of leaving the program indicates speaks volumes.  Players usually do not leave unless they feel they really are not being given a fighting chance to play.  The penalty of sitting out a year is one athletes do not seem to take lightly.  In addition, the next class looks fast, but mediocre.  Can't say I'm too excited with the results we have seen since Spring Ball with either recruiting or players leaving.  Our football program is at a crossroads and I'm afraid the addition of Prince is not going to take us in the direction we want to go.  I would also like to add, I hope I am on this site in three years eating a ton of humble pie because my "opinion" is completely wrong.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: ds43fan on August 15, 2006, 12:12:52 PM
we need a websight that says "hey Tim Weieser....HIRE BRENT VENABLES!!!!!"
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: Dan Rydell on August 15, 2006, 12:46:59 PM
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we need a websight that says "hey Tim Weieser....HIRE BRENT VENABLES!!!!!"

No we don't.  Early signs aren't especially encouraging, but we need to wait and see what Prince can do on the field and what this recruiting class looks like once it's finalized.  If Prince can go .500 this year, I'll be encouraged, and I think we'll get some better recruits.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: catfan28 on August 15, 2006, 12:49:50 PM
Very well said bslimz.

Let's just let it play out.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: pissclams on August 15, 2006, 12:54:16 PM
LOL @ websight
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on August 15, 2006, 12:59:17 PM
A month ago I was hearing 8 and 9 win seasons.

Now its, "if we can only go .500".

Scary Smart, ladies and gentlemen.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: Joker on August 15, 2006, 01:02:14 PM
A month ago I was hearing 8 and 9 win seasons.

Now its, "if we can only go .500".

Scary Smart, ladies and gentlemen.

You heard this from bslimz or just some random KSU fan?

Cause sometime within the last year I heard a ku fan say he blew a goat so that must mean you partake in goat blowing as well.  :jerkoff:
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on August 15, 2006, 01:12:39 PM
A month ago I was hearing 8 and 9 win seasons.

Now its, "if we can only go .500".

Scary Smart, ladies and gentlemen.

You heard this from bslimz or just some random KSU fan?

Cause sometime within the last year I heard a ku fan say he blew a goat so that must mean you partake in goat blowing as well.  :jerkoff:

Several Ksu fans.

Just read the prediction threads.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: pissclams on August 15, 2006, 01:17:50 PM
So your point is that different K-State fans have different opinions on how we're going to do this year.
Some say we're going to win the national championship, others say we're good at .500.
That's profound.




Please don't tell anyone you attend my alma mater.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on August 15, 2006, 01:36:37 PM
So your point is that different K-State fans have different opinions on how we're going to do this year.
Some say we're going to win the national championship, others say we're good at .500.
That's profound.




Please don't tell anyone you attend my alma mater.

Very few are still predicting 8 or 9 win seasons. The majority switched to 'hopefully 6 wins and maybe a bowl'.

The average win predictions swung wildly the other way after Prince ran some people off and his recruiting hasn't been good.

And I attend KSU proudly. Its a fine college. It just sucks athletically. :shy:

Out.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on August 15, 2006, 01:49:36 PM
I still say if they don't win 7 or more, we're in Deep $hit.

Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on August 15, 2006, 01:50:53 PM
I still say if they don't win 7 or more, we're in Deep $hit.



What 7 do you think you'll win?
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: FBWillie on August 15, 2006, 01:52:33 PM
So your point is that different K-State fans have different opinions on how we're going to do this year.
Some say we're going to win the national championship, others say we're good at .500.
That's profound.




Please don't tell anyone you attend my alma mater.

Very few are still predicting 8 or 9 win seasons. The majority switched to 'hopefully 6 wins and maybe a bowl'.

The average win predictions swung wildly the other way after Prince ran some people off and his recruiting hasn't been good.

And I attend KSU proudly. Its a fine college. It just sucks athletically. :shy:

Out.

Were you the dum bass that sat behind me at the ku game last year, then left in the 3rd qtr? Section 13 row 17 seats 31 & 32?  If so....  You and your mom are a couple of dipsh1t dime store wh0res.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: MrWhite on August 15, 2006, 01:53:52 PM
ksu hasn't locked up the state in some time, it's a long running problem.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: pissclams on August 15, 2006, 02:05:57 PM
By
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sucks athletically
Do you mean
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doesn't cheat
?
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: opcat on August 15, 2006, 02:10:27 PM
I could give Smith a phone call !  he's in OP.   

Just kidding. :D

I wonder why no one has leaked any info since he is local.  He must not be telling his friends.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: Dan Rydell on August 15, 2006, 02:56:55 PM
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No we don't.  Early signs aren't especially encouraging, but we need to wait and see what Prince can do on the field and what this recruiting class looks like once it's finalized.  If Prince can go .500 this year, I'll be encouraged, and I think we'll get some better recruits.

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A month ago I was hearing 8 and 9 win seasons.

Now its, "if we can only go .500".

Scary Smart, ladies and gentlemen.

4-8
2-6

 :crybaby:

^^^^^
optimistic

(BTW, fatty, I note with some depression that my posting style is becoming more and more like yours.)

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I'm of the belief that Prince was the result of little interest from other coaches. Doesn't mean he won't be successfull, just a strange pick.

Yep, although I got word from an "insider" the day of the Mizzou game that I shouldn't be surprised if it was someone I never heard of.  Lo and behold...

I know that my recent posts have been on the negative side.  I'm not anti-Prince.  I don't know enough about him yet and he hasn't coached a game.  I'm just pointing out that it's entirely possible that we could really tank this year, and that other folks' expectations don't seem to be entirely, um, realistic.  I think it's more likely that we win 2 games this year than that we win 10...more likely that we win 3 than that we win 9...more likely that we win 4 than we win 8, etc.  If we were returning players who had gone just .500 last year, I'd have more room for optimism. 

Dumba$$.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on August 15, 2006, 03:21:34 PM
I'm not talking about you in particular.

The predictions I've seen as a whole have changed from 8/9 to 6 wins.

How many times do I have to say this?
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: purplecobra on August 16, 2006, 06:42:03 AM
I don't see how anyone can say  7 wins.  We will go .500 in OOC and from there on out I don't see another 3 wins.  I see a win vs ISU and maybe, just maybe Baylor but even the baylor game is 50/50 and when your 50/50 against baylor then your season aint lokking to good.  The other team we cdould beat is CU, they are in transition as well but they seem to be going about it in a different way.

so, 2 ooc wins
isu win and Baylor and Cu a toss up.  a 3-5 win season.

take it to the bank
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on August 16, 2006, 07:48:43 AM
I still say if they don't win 7 or more, we're in Deep $hit.



What 7 do you think you'll win?

Well, I'm not gonna win $hit.

Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on August 16, 2006, 07:50:36 AM
I don't see how anyone can say  7 wins.  We will go .500 in OOC and from there on out I don't see another 3 wins.  I see a win vs ISU and maybe, just maybe Baylor but even the baylor game is 50/50 and when your 50/50 against baylor then your season aint lokking to good.  The other team we cdould beat is CU, they are in transition as well but they seem to be going about it in a different way.

so, 2 ooc wins
isu win and Baylor and Cu a toss up.  a 3-5 win season.

take it to the bank

Note, I'm not saying they will...I'm saying that if they are worth a darn, this team should win 7...or, the team this staff was handed should have won at least 7...maybe that's how I should put it.

Mr. White, do you need some lip gloss?  Them bitches gotta be gettin' chapped.

Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: purplecobra on August 16, 2006, 08:12:15 AM
"Note, I'm not saying they will...I'm saying that if they are worth a darn, this team should win 7...or, the team this staff was handed should have won at least 7...maybe that's how I should put it."

this staff was handed a team that had losing seasons back to back, and thats the bottom line.  I don't expect this team to improve at all on thiose last 2 years worth of records with all  thats going on, including the new schemes and what not.

prince didn't inherit anything but a really bad north team
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: pissclams on August 16, 2006, 08:33:18 AM
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prince didn't inherit anything but a really bad north team

Wrong.
Prince inherited a group of underachieving, unmotivated, and undisciplined players; to call them a "really bad north team" is inaccurate.
As evidence to my point, refer to our sloppy special teams play, our increase in penalties/yards the past 3 seasons, and our myriad of close losses.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 16, 2006, 08:44:43 AM
And turnovers.

Plus, I still think that Darren Sproles "syndrome" set in .. in 2004 ... everybody stand around and watch Darren, and guess what, Snyder called another play for Darren.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: michigancat on August 16, 2006, 08:56:11 AM
I think Darren Sproles was the only player Bill Snyder ever liked.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: pissclams on August 16, 2006, 09:07:29 AM
Yes, Darren was a good youngster.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on August 16, 2006, 09:25:33 AM
I think Darren Sproles was the only player Bill Snyder ever liked.

He loved Brooks Barta.

Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: Andy on August 16, 2006, 04:09:45 PM
I think Darren Sproles was the only player Bill Snyder ever liked.

he gushed quite a bit about terence newman
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: bigdeal on August 16, 2006, 05:07:28 PM
Well Nebraska Fan...well named.  Wildcat Nation was right about the returning talent.  The last 2 yrs. we have stupidly blown games we should have won.  We'll see if that was underacheiving players or an underacheiving staff.  I see 7 wins as quite possible...
1. Ill State
2. Fl Atl
3. Marshall-  home game we should win.
4. Ok St
5. either ISU or NU (both in Manhattan....we should've beat NU last year up there)  both are above average but neither will be extremely good
6. ku (by then their thoughts of being really good should've been squelched by the reality that they lost all their playmakers off a very good D, have a very inexperienced QB, and lost the only QB that got them any points at all last year)
7. 1 out of Baylor, MU, and CU on the road.  None are juggernauts...all are likely average to slightly above average

Am I optimistic...maybe, but not overly.  To say 4 wins is to take a very pessimistic, don't look at the weaknesses of others, route.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: mjrod on August 16, 2006, 07:26:39 PM
The first game of the season will tell us a lot about KSU football for the rest of the season.  Illinios State is not a team that you can just ignore.   They have great talent and can play with anyone.  The issue for Prince is to make sure that we don't go into the game cocky, we go in confident and play well.   If we smash the crap out of them, then the next game will be more telling.

3-1 in the OOC is very realistic, 4-0 is within the realm of possibility since Louisville has never been a great road team against decent talent.

4-4 in the Big 12 is very reasonable.  Home games against ISU, NU, UT and OSU, KSU should win again ISU, NU and OSU.  The road games, ku, MU, CU and BU, we could go 1-3 with ku or BU being our winning game.  MU and CU kinda scare me because CU has a great deal of talent returning, and so does MU.

If we can win 6 of our home games, and 1 of our away games, we're 7-5 and based on past histories of new coaches coming in and winning, that wouldn't be too bad.    A least we're bowling.  However,  I believe we can win 7 of our home games, and maybe take 2 on the road.   First things first, though, we have to establish dominance on our home turf.  Snyder recognized that when he coached.  So does Prince.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: purplecobra on August 16, 2006, 08:57:36 PM
"Wrong.
Prince inherited a group of underachieving, unmotivated, and undisciplined players; to call them a "really bad north team" is inaccurate.
As evidence to my point, refer to our sloppy special teams play, our increase in penalties/yards the past 3 seasons, and our myriad of close losses."

so, we did go to bowl games the past 2 years in the weakest division in the conferance?  I must have missed that.  you can make up all the bs excuses you want but your are as good as your record says you are.
Title: Re: 2maro. Brian Smith announces.
Post by: pissclams on August 16, 2006, 11:22:14 PM
"Wrong.
Prince inherited a group of underachieving, unmotivated, and undisciplined players; to call them a "really bad north team" is inaccurate.
As evidence to my point, refer to our sloppy special teams play, our increase in penalties/yards the past 3 seasons, and our myriad of close losses."

so, we did go to bowl games the past 2 years in the weakest division in the conferance?  I must have missed that.  you can make up all the bs excuses you want but your are as good as your record says you are.
:lol: