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Sports => Frank Martin's OOD sponsored by the "Angriest Fans in America" => Topic started by: ksu98 on June 29, 2008, 10:00:19 PM
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speaking of early starts in recruiting have you seen ku's basketball class for 09
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=8&cfg=bb&toinid=365&iSchoolStateProvinceId=-1&yr=2009
WOW!!!!!!!!! right?
and Ksus
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=8&cfg=bb&toinid=366&yr=2009
Burn just likes james brown did to you MFer's, but for the wrong reasons obviously
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wow because that's so legit right?
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ku - #2 recruiting class in the nation
KSU - One of the worst recruiting classes in the BCS
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Both are legit. For some crazy reason, you don't rank high when you can't offer scholarships.
This year KSU, the next year ku.
But now it's up to ku's #2 class to do better than KSU's #1 class of the previous year. Possibility of getting farther into the tournament, but no chance in the individual accomplishments.
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Some decent potential:
http://kansas.scout.com/a.z?s=172&p=9&cfg=bb&c=4&yr=2009
Now I'm not saying we are a lock for anyone and stuff, so settle the f*ck down, but we'll definitely smoke you in bball recruiting. (as well as football)
Some not-so-decent potential:
http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=9&c=4&yr=2009
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The legions of squawk validation nation grow at an exponential rate on ksufans.com
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You need us, dax. The traffic is good for ksufans.com.
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when xavier henry puts you on his short list, give me a call
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when xavier henry puts you on his short list, give me a call
Shut the &@#% up :)
Beasley > All
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I'd rather not call someone with an STD thanks though, potential just means you haven't done jack crap yet I mean Kleinmann had potential according to most ku fans
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when xavier henry puts you on his short list, give me a call
Shut the frack up :)
Beasley > All
Yes, great individual player. Mediocre team player. 2nd round? He should be embarassed by that but he doesn't appear to be. Tells you all you need to know about his character.
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when xavier henry puts you on his short list, give me a call
Shut the frack up :)
Beasley > All
Yes, great individual player. Mediocre team player. 2nd round? He should be embarassed by that but he doesn't appear to be. Tells you all you need to know about his character.
It's understandable you are mad, he and Bill destroyed your team 2 on 5.
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when xavier henry puts you on his short list, give me a call
Shut the frack up :)
Beasley > All
Yes, great individual player. Mediocre team player. 2nd round? He should be embarassed by that but he doesn't appear to be. Tells you all you need to know about his character.
It's understandable you are mad, he and Bill destroyed your team 2 on 5.
But he couldn't do it when it mattered. Actually, maybe he was capable of carrying KSU to victory vs Wisconsin but he just didn't feel like it. Winners have great attitudes and want to. Mike clearly doesn't have those qualities.
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when xavier henry puts you on his short list, give me a call
Shut the frack up :)
Beasley > All
Yes, great individual player. Mediocre team player. 2nd round? He should be embarassed by that but he doesn't appear to be. Tells you all you need to know about his character.
It's understandable you are mad, he and Bill destroyed your team 2 on 5.
But he couldn't do it when it mattered. Actually, maybe he was capable of carrying KSU to victory vs Wisconsin but he just didn't feel like it. Winners have great attitudes and want to. Mike clearly doesn't have those qualities.
Christ, every year you guys went out to Bucknell or Biltmore or Bradley or Barbarosa your team must have been chock full of lazy d-bags :eek: I mean, if all it takes is one guy to feel like winning :eek:
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Confucius say: By digging the trench deeper, the mountain seems higher.
Thank you 'B' teams. (and the jayhawks that lost to you, of course)
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when xavier henry puts you on his short list, give me a call
Shut the frack up :)
Beasley > All
Yes, great individual player. Mediocre team player. 2nd round? He should be embarassed by that but he doesn't appear to be. Tells you all you need to know about his character.
It's understandable you are mad, he and Bill destroyed your team 2 on 5.
But he couldn't do it when it mattered. Actually, maybe he was capable of carrying KSU to victory vs Wisconsin but he just didn't feel like it. Winners have great attitudes and want to. Mike clearly doesn't have those qualities.
Christ, every year you guys went out to Bucknell or Biltmore or Bradley or Barbarosa your team must have been chock full of lazy d-bags :eek: I mean, if all it takes is one guy to feel like winning :eek:
The ku players definitely wanted to win those games. They are afterall, winners. But they don't have the talent that Beasley has. Not even close.
Pretty much every ku player that lost to Bucknell also played in a Final Four (several played in two). Most of the players that lost to Bradley eventually won a National Title. Mike and Bill were satisfied to stop in the 2nd Round. Satisfied to finish 3rd in the Big XII. What a couple of souless, money grubbing losers.
ku players never quit. They overcome adversity. They are winners.
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LOL. The NBA is where big-time players go. Congrats on your group of losers too sh1tty to declare after 1 year.
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The ku players definitely wanted to win those games. They are afterall, winners. But they don't have the talent that Beasley has. Not even close.
Pretty much every ku player that lost to Bucknell also played in a Final Four (several played in two). Most of the players that lost to Bradley eventually won a National Title. Mike and Bill were satisfied to stop in the 2nd Round. Satisfied to finish 3rd in the Big XII. What a couple of souless, money grubbing losers.
ku players never quit. They overcome adversity. They are winners.
LOFL, I'm picturing the special olympics medal stand during your whole retarded spew. Funniest thing I have read in a while!
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LOL. The NBA is where big-time players go. Congrats on your group of losers too sh1tty to declare after 1 year.
So Huggins and Martin are really stupid for recruiting one and done players to a place like KSU? I don't disagree.
ku can get away with a one and done player every now and again because they are loaded with 3-4 year talent. KSU had no other BCS worthy players besides Beasley and Walker. All last year did was get the KSU fanbase excited that a turnaround was coming. There is clearly no turnaround on the horizon for KSU.
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LOL. The NBA is where big-time players go. Congrats on your group of losers too sh1tty to declare after 1 year.
So Huggins and Martin are really stupid for recruiting one and done players? I don't disagree.
What are you talking about? We celebrate when our players go pro, we don't publicly berate them like ku.
Maybe that's why our 2009 class is sizzling, while ku's is bizzling (opposite of sizzling)
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LOL. The NBA is where big-time players go. Congrats on your group of losers too sh1tty to declare after 1 year.
So Huggins and Martin are really stupid for recruiting one and done players? I don't disagree.
What are you talking about? We celebrate when our players go pro, we don't publicly berate them like ku.
Maybe that's why our 2009 class is sizzling, while ku's is bizzling (opposite of sizzling)
So your 2009-2010 squad will have one legitimate Big XII player (Judge sounds decent but it sounds like Magruder will be another Ron Anderson)?
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C'mon man! Bizzling, I made that sh1t up!
:lol: :lol:
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C'mon man! Bizzling, I made that sh1t up!
:lol: :lol:
Bizzling is ok I guess but jizzling would have been a better compliment to sizzling. To each his own though.
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No other BCS worthy players? Must of been really embarassing when Pullen put up 20 on your superstar guards.
LOL. The NBA is where big-time players go. Congrats on your group of losers too sh1tty to declare after 1 year.
So Huggins and Martin are really stupid for recruiting one and done players to a place like KSU? I don't disagree.
ku can get away with a one and done player every now and again because they are loaded with 3-4 year talent. KSU had no other BCS worthy players besides Beasley and Walker. All last year did was get the KSU fanbase excited that a turnaround was coming. There is clearly no turnaround on the horizon for KSU.
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No other BCS worthy players? Must of been really embarassing when Pullen put up 20 on your superstar guards.
LOL. The NBA is where big-time players go. Congrats on your group of losers too sh1tty to declare after 1 year.
So Huggins and Martin are really stupid for recruiting one and done players to a place like KSU? I don't disagree.
ku can get away with a one and done player every now and again because they are loaded with 3-4 year talent. KSU had no other BCS worthy players besides Beasley and Walker. All last year did was get the KSU fanbase excited that a turnaround was coming. There is clearly no turnaround on the horizon for KSU.
Pullen occasionally looked like an average player. This was solely due to playing with Beasley and Walker. I once saw Sutton be mediocre last season, but unfortunately that was also due to Mike and Bill.
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LOL. The NBA is where big-time players go. Congrats on your group of losers too sh1tty to declare after 1 year.
So Huggins and Martin are really stupid for recruiting one and done players to a place like KSU? I don't disagree.
ku can get away with a one and done player every now and again because they are loaded with 3-4 year talent. KSU had no other BCS worthy players besides Beasley and Walker. All last year did was get the KSU fanbase excited that a turnaround was coming. There is clearly no turnaround on the horizon for KSU.
Who? I can't say I can recall even one -- given the assumption of 1ndun = going league not going to Gonzaga.
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LOL. The NBA is where big-time players go. Congrats on your group of losers too sh1tty to declare after 1 year.
So Huggins and Martin are really stupid for recruiting one and done players to a place like KSU? I don't disagree.
ku can get away with a one and done player every now and again because they are loaded with 3-4 year talent. KSU had no other BCS worthy players besides Beasley and Walker. All last year did was get the KSU fanbase excited that a turnaround was coming. There is clearly no turnaround on the horizon for KSU.
Who? I can't say I can recall even one -- given the assumption of 1ndun = going league not going to Gonzaga.
No, ku has not had a one and done. Just saying that ku wouldn't waste a talent like that (ku would win a conference title, make a tourney run, etc.). Hard to imagine anyone wanting to leave ku after only one year though so it's probably a moot point.
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LOL. The NBA is where big-time players go. Congrats on your group of losers too sh1tty to declare after 1 year.
So Huggins and Martin are really stupid for recruiting one and done players to a place like KSU? I don't disagree.
ku can get away with a one and done player every now and again because they are loaded with 3-4 year talent. KSU had no other BCS worthy players besides Beasley and Walker. All last year did was get the KSU fanbase excited that a turnaround was coming. There is clearly no turnaround on the horizon for KSU.
Who? I can't say I can recall even one -- given the assumption of 1ndun = going league not going to Gonzaga.
No, ku has not had a one and done. Just saying that ku wouldn't waste a talent like that (ku would win a conference title, make a tourney run, etc.). Hard to imagine anyone wanting to leave ku after only one year though so it's probably a moot point.
Prolly is moot
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LOL. The NBA is where big-time players go. Congrats on your group of losers too sh1tty to declare after 1 year.
So Huggins and Martin are really stupid for recruiting one and done players? I don't disagree.
What are you talking about? We celebrate when our players go pro, we don't publicly berate them like ku.
Maybe that's why our 2009 class is sizzling, while ku's is bizzling (opposite of sizzling)
So your 2009-2010 squad will have one legitimate Big XII player (Judge sounds decent but it sounds like Magruder will be another Ron Anderson)?
i hope ur not serious. ron anderson - post player, mcgruder - wing. ur a dumbass. i love how whenever we get good recruits, the automatically dismiss them as "meh". i remembered hearing this about beasley last year, u guys really have not brains.
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LOL. The NBA is where big-time players go. Congrats on your group of losers too sh1tty to declare after 1 year.
So Huggins and Martin are really stupid for recruiting one and done players? I don't disagree.
What are you talking about? We celebrate when our players go pro, we don't publicly berate them like ku.
Maybe that's why our 2009 class is sizzling, while ku's is bizzling (opposite of sizzling)
So your 2009-2010 squad will have one legitimate Big XII player (Judge sounds decent but it sounds like Magruder will be another Ron Anderson)?
i hope ur not serious. ron anderson - post player, mcgruder - wing. ur a dumbass. i love how whenever we get good recruits, the automatically dismiss them as "meh". i remembered hearing this about beasley last year, u guys really have not brains.
Magruder is similar to Anderson in the sense that neither can play, not that they play the same position.
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Magruder is similar to Anderson in the sense that neither can play, not that they play the same position.
Your second best player this coming season will be Cole Aldrich...think on that for awhile before you post nonsense like that :lol:
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from the ljw....
"In one instance while messing around during a water break, Aldrich blocked a young girl’s shot, and another camper shouted out, “Hansbrough,” referencing Aldrich’s vicious swat of North Carolina All-American Tyler Hansbrough during the NCAA semifinals."
And steve, all of our players are better than all of your players. Face it, dude. But I will be rooting for the powercats (exceptwhentheyplaykulol).
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In one instance while messing around during a water break, Aldrich blocked a young girl’s shot
Amazing quote :love:
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He will be awesome against your team filled with young girls! bwahahahaammm.
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Alright, here's the rub.
KState fans and ku fans constantly disagree on which program is better.
Be completely honest here, Kitties.
Which team would you rather root for?
Team A: 37-3 (13-3), Big 12 Champions, Big 12 Tournament Champions, Make Final Four, Win National Title
Team B: 21-12 (10-6), 3rd Place Big 12, Lose in Big 12 Quarterfinals, Make NCAA Tournament, Win One Game in Tournament
Team A and B split the season series.
Again, which team would you rather root for?
Team A: 12-1 (7-1), BCS Bowl Champion
Team B: 5-7 (3-5), No Bowl
Team A beat Team B head-to-head at Team B's stadium
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They would probably rather root for the team that they like, imho. One school would probably make its followers happier, though.
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not the point, RSC. the point is that your team this year consists of the dick-rubber (who i hear is hitting the McD's hard this summer), some goofy white kid, two trash juco's and two twins who may or may not make it academically and no one committed for '09.
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not the point, RSC. the point is that your team this year consists of the dick-rubber (who i hear is hitting the McD's hard this summer), some goofy white kid, two trash juco's and two twins who may or may not make it academically and no one committed for '09.
Just so we're clear, you don't think even the best JuCo's in the country can be productive?
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not the point, RSC. the point is that your team this year consists of the dick-rubber (who i hear is hitting the McD's hard this summer), some goofy white kid, two trash juco's and two twins who may or may not make it academically and no one committed for '09.
Just so we're clear, you don't think even the best JuCo's in the country can be productive?
if your juco's names are larry johnson and shawn marion, i'd think differently about them.
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not the point, RSC. the point is that your team this year consists of the dick-rubber (who i hear is hitting the McD's hard this summer), some goofy white kid, two trash juco's and two twins who may or may not make it academically and no one committed for '09.
Just so we're clear, you don't think even the best JuCo's in the country can be productive?
Blake Young has proven that to be the case
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not the point, RSC. the point is that your team this year consists of the dick-rubber (who i hear is hitting the McD's hard this summer), some goofy white kid, two trash juco's and two twins who may or may not make it academically and no one committed for '09.
Just so we're clear, you don't think even the best JuCo's in the country can be productive?
Blake Young has proven that to be the case
I weep for the future of your football program in that case.
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not the point, RSC. the point is that your team this year consists of the dick-rubber (who i hear is hitting the McD's hard this summer), some goofy white kid, two trash juco's and two twins who may or may not make it academically and no one committed for '09.
Just so we're clear, you don't think even the best JuCo's in the country can be productive?
Blake Young has proven that to be the case
I weep for the future of your football program in that case.
Wrong sport bro-dude.
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Top 50 '09 prospects with ku on their list:
1. John Wall
2. Xavier Henry
3. Derrick Favors
4. Renardo Sidney
7. Lance Stephenson
10. Daniel Orton
11. Dominic Cheek
12. Jordan Hamilton
14. Abdul Gaddy
16. Avery Bradley
23. Dante Taylor
28. Rodney Williams
34. Elijah Johnson
44. Nolan Dennis
48. Terrence Boyd
http://kansas.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1642 (http://kansas.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1642)
I guess I don't understand why K-State fans would expect ku's '09 recruiting class to be anything short of top 5, given the fact that we just won a National Championship and have plenty of playing time available. It's either denial or ignorance, maybe both. Not to say that K-State isn't off to a great start for its '09 class - Judge and McGruder are both very good prospects. However, to imply that ku's '09 class is "struggling" seems a bit far-fetched. It's July 2nd... most recruits don't even start taking official visits until September.
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Top 50 '09 prospects with ku on their list:
1. John Wall
2. Xavier Henry
3. Derrick Favors
4. Renardo Sidney
7. Lance Stephenson
10. Daniel Orton
11. Dominic Cheek
12. Jordan Hamilton
14. Abdul Gaddy
16. Avery Bradley
23. Dante Taylor
28. Rodney Williams
34. Elijah Johnson
44. Nolan Dennis
48. Terrence Boyd
http://kansas.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1642 (http://kansas.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1642)
I guess I don't understand why K-State fans would expect ku's '09 recruiting class to be anything short of top 5, given the fact that we just won a National Championship and have plenty of playing time available. It's either denial or ignorance, maybe both. Not to say that K-State isn't off to a great start for its '09 class - Judge and McGruder are both very good prospects. However, to imply that ku's '09 class is "struggling" seems a bit far-fetched. It's July 2nd... most recruits don't even start taking official visits until September.
newsflash: you only have 2 scholarships for '09. that's not a top 5 class.
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Xavier Henry and someone like Lance Stephenson would be a top 5 class by itself. There's also the possiblity that another scholarship becomes available.
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Xavier Henry and someone like Lance Stephenson would be a top 5 class by itself. There's also the possiblity that another scholarship becomes available.
#2 and #7 would not be top 5. We had #1 and #7 if you recall and needed another 4* and a few high 3*s to end up #2.
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Michael Beasley, Bill Walker, and Dom Sutton would have been top 5. I could see a similar type of class for ku in '09.
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Xavier Henry and someone like Lance Stephenson would be a top 5 class by itself. There's also the possiblity that another scholarship becomes available.
Collins going to jail?
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Alright, here's the rub.
KState fans and ku fans constantly disagree on which program is better.
Be completely honest here, Kitties.
Which team would you rather root for?
Team A: 37-3 (13-3), Big 12 Champions, Big 12 Tournament Champions, Make Final Four, Win National Title
Team B: 21-12 (10-6), 3rd Place Big 12, Lose in Big 12 Quarterfinals, Make NCAA Tournament, Win One Game in Tournament
Team A and B split the season series.
Again, which team would you rather root for?
Team A: 12-1 (7-1), BCS Bowl Champion
Team B: 5-7 (3-5), No Bowl
Team A beat Team B head-to-head at Team B's stadium
So, you were a KSt8 football fan from the 90's until 04-05?
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Alright, here's the rub.
KState fans and ku fans constantly disagree on which program is better.
Be completely honest here, Kitties.
Which team would you rather root for?
Team A: 37-3 (13-3), Big 12 Champions, Big 12 Tournament Champions, Make Final Four, Win National Title
Team B: 21-12 (10-6), 3rd Place Big 12, Lose in Big 12 Quarterfinals, Make NCAA Tournament, Win One Game in Tournament
Team A and B split the season series.
Again, which team would you rather root for?
Team A: 12-1 (7-1), BCS Bowl Champion
Team B: 5-7 (3-5), No Bowl
Team A beat Team B head-to-head at Team B's stadium
So, you were a KSt8 football fan from the 90's until 04-05?
No. I'm simply pointing out the laughable fact that KSU fans think that their school arguably had a better year than ku, when not one unbiased person would say KSU had a better football OR basketball season.
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Alright, here's the rub.
KState fans and ku fans constantly disagree on which program is better.
Be completely honest here, Kitties.
Which team would you rather root for?
Team A: 37-3 (13-3), Big 12 Champions, Big 12 Tournament Champions, Make Final Four, Win National Title
Team B: 21-12 (10-6), 3rd Place Big 12, Lose in Big 12 Quarterfinals, Make NCAA Tournament, Win One Game in Tournament
Team A and B split the season series.
Again, which team would you rather root for?
Team A: 12-1 (7-1), BCS Bowl Champion
Team B: 5-7 (3-5), No Bowl
Team A beat Team B head-to-head at Team B's stadium
So, you were a KSt8 football fan from the 90's until 04-05?
No. I'm simply pointing out the laughable fact that KSU fans think that their school arguably had a better year than ku, when not one unbiased person would say KSU had a better football OR basketball season.
Then you're question about 'rooting' is idiotic.
Most, if not all, non-tards agree this was the year of the bird (at least in mbb and fb) based on records and awards. Now, I say that as a ku alum so it may not be accurate.
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How far back would you have to go to find the year of the cat? 82-83?
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Not looking so good now for that Top 5 class Hawk Fans.... :tongue:
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20080709_L_A__hoops_standout_wows_scouts.html (http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20080709_L_A__hoops_standout_wows_scouts.html)
Sidney said he had narrowed his list of potential destinations to the University of Southern California, Texas, Arizona State, Memphis, and Texas A&M.
His stay in college could be short, though. Sidney does not hide his desire to enter the NBA draft in 2010.
"If I just go to college and do what I'm supposed to do, I'll be out of there in one year," he said. "That's my goal."
Then there was the shot at Xavier Henry, which now might be a little more difficult.
http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6271764/9209240 (http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6271764/9209240)
Henry was down to Kansas and Memphis, and he's visited both schools. He said the new plan is to finish the summer circuit and then visit Texas and UCLA before making a decision between those four programs, though sources still insist it'll likely come down to Kansas and Memphis
I've been reading ku is making a strong final push for John Wall too... according to Goodman though, that may not matter. Many say Goodman is an idiot. However, he was the only analyst to predict the 2 latest and most difficult predictions- Ebanks to WV and Negedu to Tennessee
http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/goodmanonfox/2008/07/09/LEBRONS_EYEOPENING_WEIGHT_WALL_GAVE_UNC_THE_HEISMAN (http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/goodmanonfox/2008/07/09/LEBRONS_EYEOPENING_WEIGHT_WALL_GAVE_UNC_THE_HEISMAN)
Wall’s top three are Oregon, Oklahoma State and Baylor.
(Kentucky is another school expected to be high on the list)
Derrick Favors will be a tough get with G-Tech, UGA, Clemson, and NC State all in the mix for the local boy.
Avery Bradley is a big target as well for ku, but rumors say he may join teammate Abdul Gaddy in a package deal. If that's the case, don't look for a midwest team to snag the pair of west coast stars. And if they go separate ways, look for them to stay on the west coast anyway. Both are looking hard at UCLA and 'Zona.
Overall- I would keep my mouth shut about recruiting at this point if I were a ku fan. Just because you offer scholarships to everybody in the top 20 doesn't mean they have interest. Safest bet at this point is Lance Stephenson, who was recently cut from the U18 National team for being "high-maintenance". Past that, who knows if you get anyone else at the top.
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Dood, it's ku. My bet is those kidz don't think they're good enough to play there so they're choosing lesser programs where they feel more confident. Or, a less likely option is they want go to a top program + go league in one year.
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Top 50 '09 prospects with ku on their list:
1. John Wall
2. Xavier Henry
3. Derrick Favors
4. Renardo Sidney
7. Lance Stephenson
10. Daniel Orton
11. Dominic Cheek
12. Jordan Hamilton
14. Abdul Gaddy
16. Avery Bradley
23. Dante Taylor
28. Rodney Williams
34. Elijah Johnson
44. Nolan Dennis
48. Terrence Boyd
updated realistic list for ku '09
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after listening to BMW talk about how a henry and stephenson class would be top 5 by itself (not going to dispute that), i thought about it and i came to the conclusion that that class will never happen. the top 3 prospects on ku's realistic list (see above) are all SGs. why would you take 2 SGs in the class that will replace sherron "my-penis-can-guess-your-thread-count" collins? especially since self just took 2 SGs in the '08 class in releford and little. that class won't happen because that would leave ku with only 4 frontcourt players (mo twins, QT and Aldrich) who would even be worth a crap. and with the way aldrich fouls, that's really only 3.25 frontcourt players.
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Top 50 '09 prospects with ku on their list:
1. John Wall
2. Xavier Henry
3. Derrick Favors
4. Renardo Sidney
7. Lance Stephenson
10. Daniel Orton
11. Dominic Cheek
12. Jordan Hamilton
14. Abdul Gaddy
16. Avery Bradley
23. Dante Taylor
28. Rodney Williams
34. Elijah Johnson
44. Nolan Dennis
48. Terrence Boyd
updated realistic list for ku '09
In no way is that list depressing :cheers:
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Top 50 '09 prospects with ku on their list:
1. John Wall
2. Xavier Henry
3. Derrick Favors
4. Renardo Sidney
7. Lance Stephenson
10. Daniel Orton
11. Dominic Cheek
12. Jordan Hamilton
14. Abdul Gaddy
16. Avery Bradley
23. Dante Taylor
28. Rodney Williams
34. Elijah Johnson
44. Nolan Dennis
48. Terrence Boyd
updated realistic list for ku '09
In no way is that list depressing :cheers:
you may begin to think differently if the list gets cut in half again.
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Top 50 '09 prospects with ku on their list:
1. John Wall
2. Xavier Henry
3. Derrick Favors
4. Renardo Sidney
7. Lance Stephenson
10. Daniel Orton
11. Dominic Cheek
12. Jordan Hamilton
14. Abdul Gaddy
16. Avery Bradley
23. Dante Taylor
28. Rodney Williams
34. Elijah Johnson
44. Nolan Dennis
48. Terrence Boyd
updated realistic list for ku '09
In no way is that list depressing :cheers:
you may begin to think differently if the list gets cut in half again.
Yeah, that and Bigfoot really keep me up at night :lol:
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So you really don't believe that list is going to be cut in half again? Because really if it doesn't you should be scared that means ku doesn't know who they want so they won't get anybody.
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1. Julian Wright cut ku from his list before having a change of heart and committing to Self after an in-home visit. Rush never listed ku until the last minute. The Morris twins popped up out of nowhere last year after decommitting from Memphis. Tyshawn Taylor fell into our lap after decommitting from Marquette. It's way too early to start acting like some of these '09 recruits are unavailable.
2. ku will not have any seniors on next year's team. There really isn't a need at any position. ku can afford to be picky in this year's class. We're in the mix with a lot of top prospects, and we're going to wait until their recruitment plays out. Official visits won't even start until early October.
3. Self just signed the #2 overall recruiting class in the country according to Rivals. That class includes six 4-star recruits and another Rivals top 150. Say what you want, but that's pretty damn good. Next year's roster will include two McDonald's All-Americans, two of the top 3 Juco prospects in the country, and a batch of 4-star talent.
Carry on.
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See now you have just made everyone's point if you are going to say that about basketball recruiting classes then how is it not true about football classes?
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See now you have just made everyone's point if you are going to say that about basketball recruiting classes then how is it not true about football classes?
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Talk about comparing apples to oranges.
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ku's 2009 class is looking eerily similar to their disastrous 08 class.
Meanwhile, Wally Judge looks to crack the top 10 soon.
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only reason you have the morris twins is because they didn't have the balls to compete for PT @ memphis. said they knew they would have an easier time seeing the court at ku. but wait...hmmm...that's interesting, considering you already have a "mcdonalds all-american" on the squad at their position.
Next year's roster will include two McDonald's All-Americans
(http://www.bloomington.k12.mn.us/indschool/TJ/staff/jeff8/IMAGES/aldrich.jpg)
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ku's '08 recruiting class was ranked #2 in the country by Rivals. Not sure how that's a disaster, fatty. Even if ku doesn't sign a single recruit for '09, this is our lineup (assuming no one transfers or goes pro):
PG: Sherron Collins (5-star, McDonald's AA)
SG: Travis Releford (4-star, MVP of Derby Classic, member of USA U18 team)
SF: Mario Little (4-star, #1 Juco recruit)
PF: Marcus Morris (4-star, top 30 recruit)
C: Cole Aldrich (4-star, McDonald's AA)
Bench:
PG: Tyrone Appleton (4-star, #3 Juco recruit)
PG: Tyrel Reed (RSCI top 60)
SG: Tyshawn Taylor (4-star, top 75 recruit)
SG: Brady Morningstar (4-star according to Scout, ku legacy)
PF: Quintrell Thomas (4-star, top 100 according to Scout, 3-star, top 150 according to Rivals)
C: Markieff Morris (4-star, top 50 recruit)
Throw in a guy like Xavier Henry and that team's a national title contender.
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Of the class coming in next season, I can't believe I'm not hearing more about Appleton. To be honest, I really like the kid and think he has a shot at being a solid point guard or even combo guard with his size. The other guy is Quintrell Thomas. He's one of those guys if you give him 4 years to polish his game could be a great role player...maybe turn into a Darnell Jackson.
Hate to break it to you though- not sold on Releford. He'll prolly stay as a starter most of the year because he's really the only true 2 guard, but I mean, if he was so good, why was he not DOMINATING the EKL in high school (not known for its basketball). Not saying that putting in 20 a night is bad, but I rarely heard about him flat out dominating competition. Reminds me a lot of another Miege star- Issac Miles. Big time hype when he signed with Creighton...now he's resorted to Murray State. Releford should be better, and will, but I hope you aren't banking too much into him becoming a star.
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Of the class coming in next season, I can't believe I'm not hearing more about Appleton. To be honest, I really like the kid and think he has a shot at being a solid point guard or even combo guard with his size. The other guy is Quintrell Thomas. He's one of those guys if you give him 4 years to polish his game could be a great role player...maybe turn into a Darnell Jackson.
Hate to break it to you though- not sold on Releford. He'll prolly stay as a starter most of the year because he's really the only true 2 guard, but I mean, if he was so good, why was he not DOMINATING the EKL in high school (not known for its basketball). Not saying that putting in 20 a night is bad, but I rarely heard about him flat out dominating competition. Reminds me a lot of another Miege star- Issac Miles. Big time hype when he signed with Creighton...now he's resorted to Murray State. Releford should be better, and will, but I hope you aren't banking too much into him becoming a star.
I think the thing about Releford is that he plays up to his competition. He just made the USA U18 National team so he's doing something right. Self said that Releford is already a college-level defender. In the Kentucky Derby Classic, Releford put up 20+ points and was game MVP. He also put up 28 at an adidas elite camp against Jrue Holiday. I'm not expecting him to be a star from day one, but I think he'll develop into a Keith Langford-type of player by the time he get some experience.
edit: power4PURPLE, just found out that Wall's new top 3 are Kentucky, Kansas, and Memphis. Not sure what ku's chances are but it sounds like we're making a late push. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/seth_davis/07/11/hoop.thoughts/2.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/seth_davis/07/11/hoop.thoughts/2.html)
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Of the class coming in next season, I can't believe I'm not hearing more about Appleton. To be honest, I really like the kid and think he has a shot at being a solid point guard or even combo guard with his size. The other guy is Quintrell Thomas. He's one of those guys if you give him 4 years to polish his game could be a great role player...maybe turn into a Darnell Jackson.
Hate to break it to you though- not sold on Releford. He'll prolly stay as a starter most of the year because he's really the only true 2 guard, but I mean, if he was so good, why was he not DOMINATING the EKL in high school (not known for its basketball). Not saying that putting in 20 a night is bad, but I rarely heard about him flat out dominating competition. Reminds me a lot of another Miege star- Issac Miles. Big time hype when he signed with Creighton...now he's resorted to Murray State. Releford should be better, and will, but I hope you aren't banking too much into him becoming a star.
I think the thing about Releford is that he plays up to his competition. He just made the USA U18 National team so he's doing something right. Self said that Releford is already a college-level defender. In the Kentucky Derby Classic, Releford put up 20+ points and was game MVP. He also put up 28 at an adidas elite camp against Jrue Holiday. I'm not expecting him to be a star from day one, but I think he'll develop into a Keith Langford-type of player by the time he get some experience.
edit: power4PURPLE, just found out that Wall's new top 3 are Kentucky, Kansas, and Memphis. Not sure what ku's chances are but it sounds like we're making a late push. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/seth_davis/07/11/hoop.thoughts/2.html (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/seth_davis/07/11/hoop.thoughts/2.html)
with regards to the SI article, BMW, learn to read.
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appleton sucks, iirc.
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lol
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=8&cfg=bb&toinid=366&iSchoolStateProvinceId=-1&yr=2008
I thought KSUFans went bankrupts, when does the foreclosure go down?
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KSUfans isn't going anywhere. Unfortunately for you, ku fan, you are forced to post on a garbage scout site where 50% of your posts get deleted.
Enjoy "life" loser.
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lol
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=8&cfg=bb&toinid=366&iSchoolStateProvinceId=-1&yr=2008
I thought KSUFans went bankrupts, when does the foreclosure go down?
I hear Herrera was a real monster coming off the bench at Hutchinson CC.
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Better then you'll ever be. :rofl:
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3. Self just signed the #2 overall recruiting class in the country according to Rivals. That class includes six 4-star recruits and another Rivals top 150. Say what you want, but that's pretty damn good. Next year's roster will include two McDonald's All-Americans, two of the top 3 Juco prospects in the country, and a batch of 4-star talent.
Weren't there like 4 McDAA's on the roster last year? Since two are returning, that means 0 McD's in this class.
If that's reloading for an elite program/NC, I'd choose a dagger.
Still can't believe with all of those schollies avail that Self couldn't land one :star: :star: :star: :star: :star:. Then again, he prolly didn't want another 1ndun guy...
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3. Self just signed the #2 overall recruiting class in the country according to Rivals. That class includes six 4-star recruits and another Rivals top 150. Say what you want, but that's pretty damn good. Next year's roster will include two McDonald's All-Americans, two of the top 3 Juco prospects in the country, and a batch of 4-star talent.
Weren't there like 4 McDAA's on the roster last year? Since two are returning, that means 0 McD's in this class.
If that's reloading for an elite program/NC, I'd choose a dagger.
Still can't believe with all of those schollies avail that Self couldn't land one :star: :star: :star: :star: :star:. Then again, he prolly didn't want another 1ndun guy...
Ummm... yeah. Next year's roster will include two McDonald's All-Americans. The '08 recruiting class was ranked #2 in the country by Rivals, but what would they know?
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3. Self just signed the #2 overall recruiting class in the country according to Rivals. That class includes six 4-star recruits and another Rivals top 150. Say what you want, but that's pretty damn good. Next year's roster will include two McDonald's All-Americans, two of the top 3 Juco prospects in the country, and a batch of 4-star talent.
Weren't there like 4 McDAA's on the roster last year? Since two are returning, that means 0 McD's in this class.
If that's reloading for an elite program/NC, I'd choose a dagger.
Still can't believe with all of those schollies avail that Self couldn't land one :star: :star: :star: :star: :star:. Then again, he prolly didn't want another 1ndun guy...
Ummm... yeah. Next year's roster will include two McDonald's All-Americans. The '08 recruiting class was ranked #2 in the country by Rivals, but what would they know?
Solid Benesque reply...the phog.net group ranks them 10 spots lower, guess they're idiots over there.