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Title: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 03, 2008, 08:27:49 PM
Agree?
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: fatty fat fat on June 03, 2008, 08:30:21 PM
Slight difference. As long as we beat OU, i'm happy.
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 03, 2008, 08:30:35 PM
OH!
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 03, 2008, 08:32:08 PM
(http://www.kstatesports.com//pics6/640/CY/CYPFSHIDGLXPQHJ.20060811032245.jpg) +
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 03, 2008, 08:33:40 PM
(http://www.kstatesports.com//pics10/640/WE/WETUCTCVCOVUJQV.20070913192102.jpg) +
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 03, 2008, 08:36:17 PM
(http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/DANIELCALVIN2_6150.JPG) + (http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/BLAIRIRVIN9_26150.JPG) +
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 03, 2008, 08:38:28 PM
(http://www.nmnathletics.com.edgesuite.net/pics2/400/SY/SYIXRBRSGDCXOZL.20070817154208.jpg) =
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 03, 2008, 08:39:05 PM
Significant upgrade in talent and athleticism.
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 03, 2008, 08:40:33 PM
((http://www.nmnathletics.com.edgesuite.net/pics27/200/VE/VECYLHNQIXKEAHU.20070803230223.jpg))
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: fatty fat fat on June 03, 2008, 08:42:20 PM
Josh Moore - Really good in 2006, but we don't know if he was really, "All that"

Olu Hall - If he was that good UVA would have done everythingthey could to keep him. 1 tackle? C'mon Olu. C'MON!

Blair Irvin - More known for his returning skills

Calvin - How are his skills?

Tigner - I guess hatter like him. I dunno.

Chris-Pat - Absolutely, man.
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 03, 2008, 08:48:21 PM
Moore - Best player on our team in '06, no reason he won't be in '08.

Hall - Makes our other OLBs (except maybe Childs, we're talking bodies) look like weak punks. Built for 3-4. Hungry

Irvin - Best pure athlete on the team.

Calvin - Had no one that even resembled his size/athleticism/skills at the position last year.

Tigner - Playing the "Antwon Moore" position, but better sized, better athlete. Floridian.

Patterson - X factor. Fun to look at/watch.
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 03, 2008, 08:52:53 PM
Other reasons to be optimistic:

(http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/ANTONIOFELDER10_26150.JPG)  (http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/BRANDONHAROLD11_9150.JPG) 

Sorry Samoan dudes...
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: Pete on June 03, 2008, 09:00:38 PM
Other reasons to be optimistic:

(http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/ANTONIOFELDER10_26150.JPG)  (http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/BRANDONHAROLD11_9150.JPG) 

Sorry Somoan dudes...

No freshman impact at DE...Sorry.
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 03, 2008, 09:03:51 PM
I'll give you a sec to look at his picture a little more.

Let me know!
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: Slick on June 03, 2008, 09:15:41 PM
You don't have a diverse ethnic background on your D... Is Prince racist? 8-)
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: PurplePowerhouse on June 03, 2008, 09:49:48 PM
You don't have a diverse ethnic background on your D... Is Prince racist? 8-)

Obviously.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: fatty fat fat on June 03, 2008, 09:54:23 PM
How about the LB's? I mean, we are going to play 3. You only list a couple.


LB's are important. Real.
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 03, 2008, 09:57:46 PM
Walker is not really terrible.  1

Hall. 2

Patterson/Moore/Tigner/Childs.  3

Samoan dudes/Houlik (no thanks)  4.

Outside will be fine. Middle is more concerning...Middle of D-line will be better and even things out...

Houlik on the field at any point is really terrifying...and sickening...not looking forward to it, but it's gonna happen.
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: fatty fat fat on June 03, 2008, 10:02:08 PM
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Houlik on the field at any point is really terrifying...and sickening...not looking forward to it, but it's gonna happen.

He's our leading returning tackler.

My philosophy has always been you get better when good players have experienced. We don't have experience. Very scary.
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: phagallenblowsballs on June 03, 2008, 10:05:15 PM
Josh Moore - Really good in 2006, but we don't know if he was really, "All that"

Olu Hall - If he was that good UVA would have done everythingthey could to keep him. 1 tackle? C'mon Olu. C'MON!

Blair Irvin - More known for his returning skills

Calvin - How are his skills?

Tigner - I guess hatter like him. I dunno.

Chris-Pat - Absolutely, man.

Come on, the powertards already claim Josh Moore as the best CB in ksu history....already.

And Chris Patterson .....BUST (the tape will prove this)

And Daniel Calvin on one leg is an upgrade over Cline...

Im real curious about Olu Hall.....anytime when it seems to good to be true, it usually is.....
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 03, 2008, 10:06:36 PM
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Houlik on the field at any point is really terrifying...and sickening...not looking forward to it, but it's gonna happen.

He's our leading returning tackler.

My philosophy has always been you get better when good players have experienced. We don't have experience. Very scary.

Gross, huh?

Walker, Childs, (Houlik) all have been around 3 or so years.
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: ksu98 on June 03, 2008, 11:23:18 PM
(http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/TONYGILLESPIE10_10150.JPG)
ive been tellin you this guy is awesome hes from jenks
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: bam8485 on June 04, 2008, 12:11:57 AM
(http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/TONYGILLESPIE10_10150.JPG)
ive been tellin you this guy is awesome hes from jenks


 most likely a juco placement, i don't think he was going to qualify.
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: Saulbadguy on June 04, 2008, 12:14:38 AM
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Houlik on the field at any point is really terrifying...and sickening...not looking forward to it, but it's gonna happen.


My philosophy has always been you get better when good players have experienced. We don't have experience. Very scary.
Like in NCAA 05/06/07, etc.
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: ksu98 on June 04, 2008, 12:15:39 AM
(http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/TONYGILLESPIE10_10150.JPG)
ive been tellin you this guy is awesome hes from jenks


 most likely a juco placement, i don't think he was going to qualify.
I might as well go roll off a cliff now if thats true
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 04, 2008, 07:37:57 AM
Gillespie would be another reason to be excited, but very small probability that he is at KSU in '08.
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: phagallenblowsballs on June 04, 2008, 08:50:48 AM
Agree?

Well it sure as hell cant be any worse than last year.  And some of the cancer players have finally left, thank god!
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: The Manhatter on June 04, 2008, 10:36:23 AM
Agree?

Well it sure as hell cant be any worse than last year.  And some of the cancer players have finally left, thank god!

teams can't improve in one year...impossible....

2006: 94 - http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2006&div=4&rpt=IA_teamtotdef&site=org
2006: 119 - http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?year=2006&div=4&rpt=IA_teampassdef&site=org
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: steve dave on June 04, 2008, 10:38:02 AM
To play Devil's advocate...we did lose by far our best defensive player.
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: frankencat on June 04, 2008, 10:45:11 AM
Is Prince still our head coach?
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: frankencat on June 04, 2008, 10:46:04 AM

nm
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 04, 2008, 05:41:42 PM
To play Devil's advocate...we did lose by far our best defensive player.

Josh Moore is still on the team.
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 04, 2008, 05:46:00 PM
As long as we beat OU, i'm happy.

We will.
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: steve dave on June 04, 2008, 05:47:47 PM
To play Devil's advocate...we did lose by far our best defensive player.

Josh Moore is still on the team.

Reyer played last year...
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: pwrcat1 on June 04, 2008, 07:13:05 PM
As long as we beat OU, i'm happy.

We will.

i'm liking the confidence... 
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: catzacker on June 04, 2008, 07:42:25 PM
For f*ck sake it was the worst defense since '89, I'd hope they get better.  But how much?  Let's just put this into perspective....if you want to throw up, here is the Conference PPG since '89.

1989   36.3
1990   33.1
1991   17.3
1992   24.1
1993   20.3
1994   18.4
1995   16.7
1996   20.3
1997   16.5
1998   13.8
1999   17.1
2000   23.3
2001   20.8
2002   11.4
2003   15.1
 :flush:
2004   32.4
2005   32.3
2006   27.3
2007   34.8

Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 04, 2008, 07:54:07 PM
For f*ck sake it was the worst defense since '89, I'd hope they get better.  But how much?  Let's just put this into perspective....if you want to throw up, here is the Conference PPG since '89.

1989   36.3
1990   33.1
1991   17.3
1992   24.1
1993   20.3
1994   18.4
1995   16.7
1996   20.3
1997   16.5
1998   13.8
1999   17.1
2000   23.3
2001   20.8
2002   11.4
2003   15.1
 :flush:
2004   32.4
2005   32.3
2006   27.3
2007   34.8



Big 12 offenses are insane now compared to what they were thru the 90's.
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: catzacker on June 04, 2008, 08:00:08 PM
For f*ck sake it was the worst defense since '89, I'd hope they get better.  But how much?  Let's just put this into perspective....if you want to throw up, here is the Conference PPG since '89.

1989   36.3
1990   33.1
1991   17.3
1992   24.1
1993   20.3
1994   18.4
1995   16.7
1996   20.3
1997   16.5
1998   13.8
1999   17.1
2000   23.3
2001   20.8
2002   11.4
2003   15.1
 :flush:
2004   32.4
2005   32.3
2006   27.3
2007   34.8



Big 12 offenses are insane now compared to what they were thru the 90's.


It's all relative.  NU offense was just as "insane" in its time.  OU's was in the late 80's and early, early 90's.  And Cu's offense was pretty good as well.  Regardless of the offenses it faces, good/decent defenses should be under 24ppg in conference.  We just flat out suck and it's a talent issue rather than what type of offense are we facing issue.
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: fatty fat fat on June 04, 2008, 08:02:00 PM
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1989   36.3
1990   33.1
1991   17.3
1992   24.1
1993   20.3
1994   18.4

Sh1t. That's like, pretty much Mangino @ ku. We really really really need that bastard to die soon.
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: pwrcat1 on June 04, 2008, 08:02:58 PM
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1989   36.3
1990   33.1
1991   17.3
1992   24.1
1993   20.3
1994   18.4

Sh1t. That's like, pretty much Mangino @ ku. We really really really need that bastard to die soon.

honestly, how much longer can it take??
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: ksu98 on June 04, 2008, 09:05:57 PM
Could our defense get any worse?
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: opcat on June 24, 2008, 02:51:38 PM
those stats are a little skewed.  This is  a passing O. We have more downs but so will the other team.  Other teams are going to score more than the run out the clock type offense under Snyder.

The D will be a lot better if all the rumors are true.

Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: GoodForAnother on June 24, 2008, 03:38:14 PM
Olu Hall - If he was that good UVA would have done everythingthey could to keep him. 1 tackle? C'mon Olu. C'MON!

Did you read my Wichita Catbackers thread?

Olu is:

1.  Big
2.  Black
3.  Beautiful
4.  Hungry
Title: Re: Our defense is gonna be like, a lot better this year dudes
Post by: Bookcat on June 24, 2008, 11:16:29 PM
back to the 4-3 after that ridiculous experiment in failure last year.