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Title: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: The Manhatter on May 27, 2008, 07:31:44 AM
notable players ()

2008 - Kansas (Darrell Arthur, Mario Chalmers, Brandon Rush)
2007 - Florida (Joakim Noah, Al Horford, Corey Brewer)
2006 - Florida (see '07)
2005 - North Carolina (Sean May, Rashad McCants, Raymond Felton, Marvin Williams)
2004 - Connecticut (Emeka Okafor, Ben Gordon, Rashad Anderson, Josh Boone, Charlie Villanueva)
2003 - Syracuse (Carmelo Anthony, Hakim Warrick, Gerry McNamara)
2002 - Maryland (Juan Dixon, Steve Blake, Lonnie Baxter, Chris Wilcox)
2001 - Duke (Jay Williams, Shane Battier, Mike Dunleavy, Carlos Boozer)
2000 - Michigan State (Matteen Cleaves, Morris Peterson, Charlie Bell, Jason Richardson)
1999 - Connecticut (Richard Hamilton, Khalid El-Amin, Jake Voskuhl, Ricky Moore)
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: The Manhatter on May 27, 2008, 07:43:00 AM
IMO

1. 2004 - Connecticut
2. 2005 - North Carolina
3. 2007 - Florida
4. 2001 - Duke
5. 2000 - Michigan State
6. 2008 - Kansas
7. 2006 - Florida
8. 2002 - Maryland
9. 1999 - Connecticut
10. 2003 - Syracuse

why?

2004 was the most loaded team along w/ UNC '05 in terms of starting talent and quality depth.  The UConn frontcourt of Okafor, Boone, and Villanueva was absolutely frightening...Gordon and Anderson were killers from the wings.  That team was scary and when they wanted to turn it on it always got ugly.  UNC had an amazing top 6 players and unstoppable offensive arsenal...not a great defensive team symbolic of Roy's teams but didn't need to be w/ the offensive production.  Florida's versatility and team chemistry is unmatched by any of these teams save Michigan State and Maryland's NC teams.  That Florida had bigs like Noah, Horford, and Brewer who could handle the ball the way they did set them apart.  Duke '01 is behind the top 3 simply because they lacked the dominant inside presence...but Jay Williams was as good as we've seen from the point, Dunleavy was a 6-9 sharp shooter, and Battier was just an all around blue collar player.  Michigan State was the toughest mentally of these teams...down the list due to lack of the top end talent but their team chemistry, experience, and toughness was their trademark.  No need to summarize the rest though I will say that Syracuse, while good, sort of peaked at the right time and really was not thought of as a contender going into the tourney.

Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: steve dave on May 27, 2008, 07:53:47 AM
I put ku #1.  They faced the Michael Beasley/Bill Walker led KSU team to came out to a hard fought draw at one game apiece.  Pretty impressive imo.
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 27, 2008, 07:55:09 AM
01 Duke and 04 UCONN.  Pretty much everyone knew they were going to win it all.
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: Burgertime on May 27, 2008, 08:04:15 AM
2003 - Syracuse (Carmelo Anthony, Hakim Warrick, Gerry McNamara) :chainsaw:

If only we coulda made some more dadgum free throws...
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: ChicagoCat on May 27, 2008, 08:17:44 AM
2003 - Syracuse (Carmelo Anthony, Hakim Warrick, Gerry McNamara) :chainsaw:

If only we coulda made some more dadgum free throws...

Said the ku fan after how they won their championship...
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: The Manhatter on May 27, 2008, 08:19:09 AM
01 Duke and 04 UCONN.  Pretty much everyone knew they were going to win it all.

I don't recall Duke '01 being that big of a pre-tourney favorite...the Duke '99 team was definitely the HUGE fave to win it all but don't recall that about '01 Duke.

Duke '99 may be most talented team we have seen...always will wonder how good that team might have been had some of those players stuck around a year or two longer.  Brand, Avery, Maggette, Battier, etc, etc.

Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: The Manhatter on May 27, 2008, 08:19:45 AM
2003 - Syracuse (Carmelo Anthony, Hakim Warrick, Gerry McNamara) :chainsaw:

If only we coulda made some more dadgum free throws...

Said the ku fan after how they won their championship...

QFT.  Memphis is the gift that keeps on giving, Clark.

Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: Burgertime on May 27, 2008, 08:21:23 AM
2003 - Syracuse (Carmelo Anthony, Hakim Warrick, Gerry McNamara) :chainsaw:

If only we coulda made some more dadgum free throws...

Said the ku fan after how they won their championship...

QFT.  Memphis is the gift that keeps on giving, Clark.



slow=you guys
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: steve dave on May 27, 2008, 08:34:21 AM
2003 - Syracuse (Carmelo Anthony, Hakim Warrick, Gerry McNamara) :chainsaw:

If only we coulda made some more dadgum free throws...

Said the ku fan after how they won their championship...

QFT.  Memphis is the gift that keeps on giving, Clark.



slow=you guys

BT ahead of the ksufantards once again.
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: Burgertime on May 27, 2008, 08:59:01 AM
BT laughs at you ksufantards.
He laughs from his mountain.
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: phagallenblowsballs on May 27, 2008, 10:19:14 AM
01 Duke and 04 UCONN.  Pretty much everyone knew they were going to win it all.

Add 05 North Car. team on that list, 7 guys on that team are in the NBA right now.
That was the overall most talented team on that list...from top to bottom.
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: ChicagoCat on May 27, 2008, 11:59:13 AM
2003 - Syracuse (Carmelo Anthony, Hakim Warrick, Gerry McNamara) :chainsaw:

If only we coulda made some more dadgum free throws...

Said the ku fan after how they won their championship...

QFT.  Memphis is the gift that keeps on giving, Clark.



slow=you guys

BT ahead of the ksufantards once again.

I forget that BT is the one uk fan capable of sarcasm.  Damn him for not perpetuating the stereotype.
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: pwrcat1 on May 27, 2008, 12:00:34 PM
04 Uconn.  that team was amazing. 
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: greatjhawk on May 27, 2008, 12:51:44 PM
01 Duke and 04 UCONN.  Pretty much everyone knew they were going to win it all.

I don't recall Duke '01 being that big of a pre-tourney favorite...the Duke '99 team was definitely the HUGE fave to win it all but don't recall that about '01 Duke.

Duke '99 may be most talented team we have seen...always will wonder how good that team might have been had some of those players stuck around a year or two longer.  Brand, Avery, Maggette, Battier, etc, etc.




'01 Duke had Battier, Boozer, Dunleavy and Williams. Was ranked #1 in the final AP poll going into the tournament and had a 35-4 record. 

So while maybe not as awe-inspiring as '99, they were pretty darn good themselves.
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: pwrcat1 on May 27, 2008, 12:53:54 PM
is it just me or does boozer look like he as a major brain aneurysm about to explode out of his forehead? 
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: greatjhawk on May 27, 2008, 01:08:11 PM
is it just me or does boozer look like he as a major brain aneurysm about to explode out of his forehead? 

it's not you.
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: ksu98 on May 27, 2008, 10:07:06 PM
notable players ()

2008 - Kansas (Darrell Arthur, Mario Chalmers, Brandon Rush)
2007 - Florida (Joakim Noah, Al Horford, Corey Brewer)
2006 - Florida (see '07)
2005 - North Carolina (Sean May, Rashad McCants, Raymond Felton, Marvin Williams)
2004 - Connecticut (Emeka Okafor, Ben Gordon, Rashad Anderson, Josh Boone, Charlie Villanueva)
2003 - Syracuse (Carmelo Anthony, Hakim Warrick, Gerry McNamara)
2002 - Maryland (Juan Dixon, Steve Blake, Lonnie Baxter, Chris Wilcox)
2001 - Duke (Jay Williams, Shane Battier, Mike Dunleavy, Carlos Boozer)
2000 - Michigan State (Matteen Cleaves, Morris Peterson, Charlie Bell, Jason Richardson)
1999 - Connecticut (Richard Hamilton, Khalid El-Amin, Jake Voskuhl, Ricky Moore)
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Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: pwrcat1 on May 28, 2008, 12:57:13 AM
notable players ()

2008 - Kansas (Darrell Arthur, Mario Chalmers, Brandon Rush)
2007 - Florida (Joakim Noah, Al Horford, Corey Brewer)
2006 - Florida (see '07)
2005 - North Carolina (Sean May, Rashad McCants, Raymond Felton, Marvin Williams)
2004 - Connecticut (Emeka Okafor, Ben Gordon, Rashad Anderson, Josh Boone, Charlie Villanueva)
2003 - Syracuse (Carmelo Anthony, Hakim Warrick, Gerry McNamara)
2002 - Maryland (Juan Dixon, Steve Blake, Lonnie Baxter, Chris Wilcox)
2001 - Duke (Jay Williams, Shane Battier, Mike Dunleavy, Carlos Boozer)
2000 - Michigan State (Matteen Cleaves, Morris Peterson, Charlie Bell, Jason Richardson)
1999 - Connecticut (Richard Hamilton, Khalid El-Amin, Jake Voskuhl, Ricky Moore)


remember when fans would bring pizza boxes to games so that they could tempt him??? that always made me smile...and hungry...
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: BullHawkWheel on May 28, 2008, 01:00:06 AM
04 uconn
08 kansas(strongest final four ever), 05 unc tie for 2nd
01 duke
whatever
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: pwrcat1 on May 28, 2008, 01:06:06 AM
well, looks like im not the only drunk bastard awake tonight.
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: BullHawkWheel on May 28, 2008, 01:09:53 AM
take off your purple colored glasses.  the finar four this year was a combined 142-9.  all 1 seeds,  record winner memphis(38 games).  3 straight final 4 team in ucla.  unc spoke for themselves.  ku won the strongest final four field.  that puts them tied with the 05 unc team and slightly behind 04 uconn. 
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: pwrcat1 on May 28, 2008, 01:11:02 AM
take off your purple colored glasses.  the finar four this year was a combined 142-9.  all 1 seeds,  record winner memphis(38 games).  3 straight final 4 team in ucla.  unc spoke for themselves.  ku won the strongest final four field.  that puts them tied with the 05 unc team and slightly behind 04 uconn. 

go to bed.
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: BullHawkWheel on May 28, 2008, 01:15:35 AM
considering you guys beat us you would think ksu fans would have the brains to pump up the ku team. 
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: The Manhatter on May 28, 2008, 10:51:06 AM
04 uconn
08 kansas(strongest final four ever), 05 unc tie for 2nd
01 duke
whatever

The competition of the Final 4 has absolutely no bearing on how good a particular champion was...ludicrous statement. 

Do you really think this Kansas team was as good as May, M. Williams, J. Williams, McCants, and Felton?  All of those parts are head & shoulders better than the parts UNC threw on the floor against Kansas last month.

Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: BullHawkWheel on May 28, 2008, 02:35:17 PM
as a team?  hell yeah
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: ZeroFor28 on May 30, 2008, 09:50:50 PM
04 uconn
08 kansas(strongest final four ever), 05 unc tie for 2nd
01 duke
whatever

The competition of the Final 4 has absolutely no bearing on how good a particular champion was...ludicrous statement. 

Do you really think this Kansas team was as good as May, M. Williams, J. Williams, McCants, and Felton?  All of those parts are head & shoulders better than the parts UNC threw on the floor against Kansas last month.




yeah because all of those guys have proved they are studs in the league right? Save this question for 3 years then we can really see
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: yoman on May 30, 2008, 09:57:51 PM
04 uconn
08 kansas(strongest final four ever), 05 unc tie for 2nd
01 duke
whatever

The competition of the Final 4 has absolutely no bearing on how good a particular champion was...ludicrous statement. 

Do you really think this Kansas team was as good as May, M. Williams, J. Williams, McCants, and Felton?  All of those parts are head & shoulders better than the parts UNC threw on the floor against Kansas last month.




yeah because all of those guys have proved they are studs in the league right? Save this question for 3 years then we can really see
aurthur and collins will be solid NBA players
rush will be meh might be there probably won't be in the NBA for long
kaun and chalmers won't be in the NBA 3 years from now
aldrich LOL
yea definitly up there with UNC 05  :jerkoff:
Title: Re: rank the past 10 NC teams...how does ku '08 stack up?
Post by: Burgertime on May 31, 2008, 08:21:13 AM
1)  08 KANSAS JAYHAWKS
2)  Crom


3)  The Four Winds (lol)





4)  Jesus H. Christ + team
5)  85 Bears

This isn't really up for debate.  Look at the stats....Jesus?  lol