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Title: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: AzCat on May 16, 2008, 01:34:37 PM
Damnit!

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I now have it from three sources close to senior Republicans that they have video dynamite--Michelle Obama railing against "whitey" at Jeremiah Wright's church. ...  Someone took the chance and started reviewing the recordings from services at Jeremiah Wright's United Church of Christ. Holy smoke!! I am told there is a clip that is being held for the fall to drop at the appropriate time. The last thing Barack and Michelle need is a new clip that raises further questions about her judgment and temperament.

Ouch, that's gonna leave a mark.  As goes "whitey", so goes the election. 
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: Oklahoma_Cat on May 16, 2008, 01:36:24 PM
Good god, man, get a hold of yourself.

The "evil black minister" angle has been played out twice already, and nobody cares.  The only people who are going to care are the anti-black hillbillies who won't vote for him anyway.
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: AzCat on May 16, 2008, 01:39:51 PM
This is the "evil racist wife" angle and it has yet to be played at all.  Recall that I'm an Obama supporter.
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 16, 2008, 01:42:07 PM
Wait until he fails to catch a football.  That will be his doom.
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: AzCat on May 16, 2008, 01:42:45 PM
Or does the Beetle Bailey photo-op in a tank.
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: Oklahoma_Cat on May 16, 2008, 01:42:57 PM
Yeah, the 10+ threads you've started railing against Obama sure show that support.   :jerkoff:

Who cares about his wife?  As far as I know, nobody will determine their vote for the president based on who's wife loves crackers (food/us)

Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: AzCat on May 16, 2008, 01:46:37 PM
Yes, who cares about his wife?  Or the fraudulent real estate deals in Chicago?  Or his terrorist-tied land broker / moneyman?  Or the fact that Hamas has endorsed him?  Or the fact that he'll double or more the cost of energy?  Or that he sponsored a bill that would hand a trillion dollars of US wealth to third world thugocracies?  Or that he makes a piker of Neville Chamberlain when it comes to tone-deaf head-in-the-sand thinking about internation issues?  Or any of the rest.  Yes, clearly we should ignore pretty much everything about him and elect him because he's a doper, a minority, and a pretty cool guy. 

I can hardly wait until he's in office!   :dancin: :popcorn: :chirp:
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: Oklahoma_Cat on May 16, 2008, 01:47:51 PM
Your boy "W" has done more harm to the entire PLANET then possibly any other person EVER.

Glass houses, african american.
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: AzCat on May 16, 2008, 01:48:34 PM
Yeah, the 10+ threads you've started railing against Obama sure show that support.   :jerkoff:

I'm not railing against him, I'm expressing my displeasure at the fact that he's not going to win in the fall. 
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: steve dave on May 16, 2008, 02:13:54 PM
Christ AZcat, give it a rest.  Everyone knows you are a Republican, you hate democrats, etc.  You are like Dax but instead of hating ku you hate liberals.  Dax has the worthier cause imHo.
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 16, 2008, 02:14:25 PM
Christ AZcat, give it a rest.  Everyone knows you are a Republican, you hate democrats, etc.  You are like Dax but instead of hating ku you hate liberals.  Dax has the worthier cause imHo.

But...he wants OBAMA to win!  :rolleyes:

so clever.
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: Oklahoma_Cat on May 16, 2008, 02:15:54 PM
I used the word "african american" while defending Obama and nobody noticed.

 :crybaby:
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: steve dave on May 16, 2008, 02:18:21 PM
I used the word "african american" while defending Obama and nobody noticed.

 :crybaby:

That is the complimentary usage iirc
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: dr00d on May 16, 2008, 02:42:20 PM
doesn't matter, dems have spent so much money on this crap shoot that neither will have a fighting chance against mccain.  :bootyshake:
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: CatsNShocks on May 16, 2008, 04:19:53 PM
Obama, McCain or Clinton. Doesn't matter...we're all &@#%ed anyways.
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: AzCat on May 16, 2008, 05:06:51 PM
Obama, McCain or Clinton. Doesn't matter...we're all fracked anyways.

Precisely.  The sorts of things each is likely to advocate while in office are virtually indistinguishable from those the others would support.  Thus we clearly must elect the candidate on the furthest left in order to wreck the country and burn folks out on these bad ideas.
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: AzCat on May 16, 2008, 05:21:07 PM
Christ AZcat, give it a rest.  Everyone knows you are a Republican, you hate democrats, etc.  You are like Dax but instead of hating ku you hate liberals.  Dax has the worthier cause imHo.

It will probably surprise you to learn that I'm not a Republican nor do I hate Democrats.  These days I'd be best described as a fiscal conservative, pretty much every other view I hold flows from that perspective.  I might cop to being a small "'l" libertarian (not to be confused with the bat-crap-crazy Libertarian Party) but really I'm more of a classical market liberal than anything. 

We now return you to your regularly scheduled young leftist propaganda.   :popcorn:
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: steve dave on May 16, 2008, 05:26:51 PM
Christ AZcat, give it a rest.  Everyone knows you are a Republican, you hate democrats, etc.  You are like Dax but instead of hating ku you hate liberals.  Dax has the worthier cause imHo.

It will probably surprise you to learn that I'm not a Republican nor do I hate Democrats.  These days I'd be best described as a fiscal conservative, pretty much every other view I hold flows from that perspective.  I might cop to being a small "'l" libertarian (not to be confused with the bat-crap-crazy Libertarian Party) but really I'm more of a classical market liberal than anything. 

We now return you to your regularly scheduled young leftist propaganda.   :popcorn:

Quote from:  steve dave circa 1/9/08
fiscal conservative/social liberal (< steve dave) dream candidate....Let people do whatever they want but make them pay for it on their own.  It is the platform that about half the libertarian candidates have run under.  It is also steve dave approved.

http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=21010.30


Screw you for copying me and then failing to convince people that you make your own choices  :curse:
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: AzCat on May 16, 2008, 05:28:34 PM
Christ AZcat, give it a rest.  Everyone knows you are a Republican, you hate democrats, etc.  You are like Dax but instead of hating ku you hate liberals.  Dax has the worthier cause imHo.

It will probably surprise you to learn that I'm not a Republican nor do I hate Democrats.  These days I'd be best described as a fiscal conservative, pretty much every other view I hold flows from that perspective.  I might cop to being a small "'l" libertarian (not to be confused with the bat-crap-crazy Libertarian Party) but really I'm more of a classical market liberal than anything. 

We now return you to your regularly scheduled young leftist propaganda.   :popcorn:

Quote from:  steve dave circa 1/9/08
fiscal conservative/social liberal (< steve dave) dream candidate....Let people do whatever they want but make them pay for it on their own.  It is the platform that about half the libertarian candidates have run under.  It is also steve dave approved.

http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=21010.30


Screw you for copying me  :curse:


Pfft.  If rodent could keep his databases intact you'd see this same perspective from me in the WZ years and years ago. 
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: steve dave on May 16, 2008, 05:29:53 PM
Christ AZcat, give it a rest.  Everyone knows you are a Republican, you hate democrats, etc.  You are like Dax but instead of hating ku you hate liberals.  Dax has the worthier cause imHo.

It will probably surprise you to learn that I'm not a Republican nor do I hate Democrats.  These days I'd be best described as a fiscal conservative, pretty much every other view I hold flows from that perspective.  I might cop to being a small "'l" libertarian (not to be confused with the bat-crap-crazy Libertarian Party) but really I'm more of a classical market liberal than anything. 

We now return you to your regularly scheduled young leftist propaganda.   :popcorn:

Quote from:  steve dave circa 1/9/08
fiscal conservative/social liberal (< steve dave) dream candidate....Let people do whatever they want but make them pay for it on their own.  It is the platform that about half the libertarian candidates have run under.  It is also steve dave approved.

http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=21010.30


Screw you for copying me  :curse:


Pfft.  If rodent could keep his databases intact you'd see this same perspective from me in the WZ years and years ago. 

Doubtful, until you can dig up the goods let it be decread that you copied sd (you can pick worse people to get your political direction from) and let's call it a day.

EDIT:  Also, I don't buy your alleged social liberal stance. 
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: AzCat on May 16, 2008, 05:38:50 PM
Doubtful, until you can dig up the goods let it be decread that you copied sd (you can pick worse people to get your political direction from) and let's call it a day.

To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, who was certainly the finest American President following the Civil War era, "There's no limit to what a man can accomplish so long as he is willing to let others have the credit."  So keep patting yourself on the back there Steve, it doesn't matter to me as long as you prove to be marginally more enlightened than the remainder of the leftist hordes here.
 
EDIT:  Also, I don't buy your alleged social liberal stance.

Feel free to put it to the test: toss out some issues and I'll comment but be forewarned that it's more a matter that I just really don't care about those things.  Honestly if the financial impact of lefty social values is removed the "values" themselves become largely irrelevant. 

 :billypopcorn:
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: CatsNChiefs on May 16, 2008, 05:41:28 PM
Your foil hat is in the mail.  Signed by mulder and scully.  Cherish it.  Forever.
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: AzCat on May 16, 2008, 05:44:48 PM
Your foil hat is in the mail.  Signed by mulder and scully.  Cherish it.  Forever.

Keeps the satellites from baking the ol' noodle don't ya know.   :runaway:
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: CatsNChiefs on May 16, 2008, 05:47:31 PM
Your foil hat is in the mail.  Signed by mulder and scully.  Cherish it.  Forever.

Keeps the satellites from baking the ol' noodle don't ya know.   :runaway:

Satellites?  No, aliens dude.  They're the real puppets behind Obama, once he's in office...


Boom, game over man, game over...
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: AzCat on May 16, 2008, 05:49:21 PM
Your foil hat is in the mail.  Signed by mulder and scully.  Cherish it.  Forever.

Keeps the satellites from baking the ol' noodle don't ya know.   :runaway:

Satellites?  No, aliens dude.  They're the real puppets behind Obama, once he's in office...


Boom, game over man, game over...

Well duh.  Who do you think is in the satellites?   :flush: :eyeseeyou: :yikes:
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: CatsNChiefs on May 16, 2008, 05:52:07 PM
Your foil hat is in the mail.  Signed by mulder and scully.  Cherish it.  Forever.

Keeps the satellites from baking the ol' noodle don't ya know.   :runaway:

Satellites?  No, aliens dude.  They're the real puppets behind Obama, once he's in office...


Boom, game over man, game over...

Well duh.  Who do you think is in the satellites?   :flush: :eyeseeyou: :yikes:

Apparently democrats, spying on you, trying to ruin your life.  Bastards.
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: AzCat on May 16, 2008, 06:05:15 PM
Your foil hat is in the mail.  Signed by mulder and scully.  Cherish it.  Forever.

Keeps the satellites from baking the ol' noodle don't ya know.   :runaway:

Satellites?  No, aliens dude.  They're the real puppets behind Obama, once he's in office...


Boom, game over man, game over...

Well duh.  Who do you think is in the satellites?   :flush: :eyeseeyou: :yikes:

Apparently democrats, spying on you, trying to ruin your life.  Bastards.

Well of course not, that would be crazy.

It's the Illuminati and the Bilderbergers, the aliens work for them.  But they all work for the CIA which is really a Jewish cabal run by the Knesset which is itself a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Saudi royal family.  Of course they all answer to Dick Cheney and Halliburton's board of directors.

 :ohno: :runaway: :excited:
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: CatsNChiefs on May 16, 2008, 06:26:38 PM
Board of directors?  Dude, "they" are not public figures.  You're not very good at this.
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: AzCat on May 16, 2008, 07:40:55 PM
Board of directors?  Dude, "they" are not public figures.  You're not very good at this.

I'm sure the tin foil hat will help.   :ksu:
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: jeffy on May 16, 2008, 08:19:55 PM
The more I think about it, the more disappointed I am that Ron Paul didn't get the nomination.  He had some really crazy ideas and some really great ideas (Fair Tax for one).  We all know that congress doesn't let the really crazy stuff go thru, so it would have weeded out the bad ideas and left the good ones.  What a mistake the Republicans have made.
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: steve dave on May 17, 2008, 12:03:29 AM
the "values" themselves become largely irrelevant

http://www.mtvu.com/player/html/popup/?vid=216316

Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: AzCat on May 17, 2008, 01:41:09 AM
the "values" themselves become largely irrelevant

http://www.mtvu.com/player/html/popup/?vid=216316


Precisely what value is being espoused there?  It looks to me like a propaganda piece inviting us to partake in the ridiculous belief that war is never worthwhile because someone might come home injured. 
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: steve dave on May 17, 2008, 02:17:33 AM
the "values" themselves become largely irrelevant

http://www.mtvu.com/player/html/popup/?vid=216316


Precisely what value is being espoused there?  It looks to me like a propaganda piece inviting us to partake in the ridiculous belief that war is never worthwhile because someone might come home injured. 

People dying because some redneck illiterate is made because his daddy failed as well...your response pretty much proves my point fwiw
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: AzCat on May 17, 2008, 02:32:46 PM
the "values" themselves become largely irrelevant

http://www.mtvu.com/player/html/popup/?vid=216316


Precisely what value is being espoused there?  It looks to me like a propaganda piece inviting us to partake in the ridiculous belief that war is never worthwhile because someone might come home injured. 

People dying because some redneck illiterate is made because his daddy failed as well...your response pretty much proves my point fwiw

This is one of the major problems with you lefties: you're so invested in your personal animus that your hatred for certain people and groups clouds your judgment.  To wit: "daddy" didn't "fail", he played nice with the United Nations who neutered the US military effort following Iraq's forcible eviction from kuwait; the entire US chain of command was clamoring to finish the drive to Baghdad but the United Nations said, "No!"  While "daddy" does deserve some of the blame for this "failure" he deserves it primarily for ceding control of US policy to the United Nations, always a poor choice.

W must certainly be the first "redneck illiterate" in the history of our fine nation to have matriculated with a BA from Yale and an MBA from Harvard.  Odd how the left believes W to be a drooling illiterate moron while they believe Dick Cheney is a mastermind when it is W who received his undergraduate degree from Yale and Cheney who flunked out of that same institution.  Odd, wouldn't you say?

As for the war itself I'll grant that its stated purpose was to relieve a third world thugocracy of its WMD.  You are aware of course that this is precisely what happened ... in Libya.    Literally the very day US ground troops crossed the Iraqi border Muammar Qadhafi hit the speed dial to DC and said, "I give.  Come pick up all the pieces of my nuclear weapons development program.  Oh, and you can have the files as well so you'll know how the network that's enabling these clandestine programs works."  Why was he so quick to giver up?  European diplomacy?  UN sanctions?  The efforts of the US state department to convince him to?  Unlikely as it appears none of the aforementioned folks were aware that he had serious NBC programs up an running.  If you lefties weren't so blinded by your hatred you'd recognize that Reagan's action against Qadhafi coupled with W's invasion of another third world hellhole for the stated purpose of relieving it of its WMD capabilities was enough to convince Qadhafi that he might well be next.  Reagan and Bush's willingness to create a credible threat of force (hint for Obama: this requires the occasional application of actual force, not just talk) made the world a safer place.  Show me one verifiable instance where diplomacy has matched that record prior to actual hostilities.

As for the emotional appeal you're making, it's weak sauce and the mark of a poor debater.  Only a fool makes decisions based on emotional appeals. 
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 17, 2008, 02:46:08 PM
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Odd, wouldn't you say?

No. He's a redneck illiterate.
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: AzCat on May 17, 2008, 02:55:56 PM
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Odd, wouldn't you say?

No. He's a redneck illiterate.

Thanks for confirming for everyone my thoughts on the left-wing "thought process".   :baityes:
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 17, 2008, 02:57:34 PM
We are much smarter than the right. It's, confirmed in polls.
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: steve dave on May 17, 2008, 03:09:45 PM
As for the emotional appeal you're making, it's weak sauce and the mark of a poor debater.  Only a fool makes decisions based on emotional appeals. 

Oh, sorry.  I would say, and this is just imo, but I don't know that starting 20 threads in a one week span all regurgitating Rush Limbaugh rhetoric is that clear of a mark of an intelligent debater....again, just imo.
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: steve dave on May 20, 2008, 08:47:44 AM
Social Liberals/Fiscal Conservatives...we have our candidate!!!!11!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080519/en_afp/germanyusinvestpoliticsbuffett_080519164802
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: AzCat on May 20, 2008, 09:45:25 AM
We are much smarter than the right. It's, confirmed in polls.

Yes statistics have indeed demonstrated (http://archives.cnn.com/2002/EDUCATION/11/20/geography.quiz/index.html) exactly how intelligent Obama's hordes of young lefty followers actually are.

 :chirp:
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: jmlynch1 on May 20, 2008, 04:23:18 PM
doesn't matter, dems have spent so much money on this crap shoot that neither will have a fighting chance against mccain.  :bootyshake:
LOL
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: PCR on May 20, 2008, 10:37:29 PM
Shouldn't Warren Buffett be worried that the Democrats will tax him into oblivion and ruin everything he's worked for?  Or at least be afraid that black/brown/yellow/red/green people will rise up and enslave the white race who has the rightful claim to this country?

Anyway it's nice to have a KSU message board where the Conservatives get criticized more than the liberals.   :beerchug:
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: AzCat on May 20, 2008, 10:55:33 PM
Shouldn't Warren Buffett be worried that the Democrats will tax him into oblivion and ruin everything he's worked for?

No, Buffett claimed that he paid taxes at only a net aggregate rate of around 17% last year despite earning nearly $50M.  Of course he also claims that he took absolutely no steps to avoid or lower his taxes which makes him either: a) a lair; or b) an idiot who has no idea how much he paid.  If he didn't have a bastion of tax attorneys holding his rate down he'd have been hit with AMT @ 28% and NE income tax at nearly 7%.  Personally I believe he should begin his political posturing with a bit of honesty.
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: Dirty Sanchez on May 20, 2008, 11:00:45 PM
Shouldn't Warren Buffett be worried that the Democrats will tax him into oblivion and ruin everything he's worked for?  Or at least be afraid that black/brown/yellow/red/green people will rise up and enslave the white race who has the rightful claim to this country?

Anyway it's nice to have a KSU message board where the Conservatives get criticized more than the liberals.   :beerchug:

Buffet doesn't mind high corporate rates.  Its merely a minor nuisance for him.  For the smaller business, it is a crippling burden.  A burden so great, in fact, that some of those businesses fold.  And who's there to save those companies or buy them out?  Ol' Warren.  Ready to expand his empire.
Title: Re: Ladies & Gentlemen: Obama just lost the election
Post by: AzCat on May 20, 2008, 11:03:16 PM
Shouldn't Warren Buffett be worried that the Democrats will tax him into oblivion and ruin everything he's worked for?  Or at least be afraid that black/brown/yellow/red/green people will rise up and enslave the white race who has the rightful claim to this country?

Anyway it's nice to have a KSU message board where the Conservatives get criticized more than the liberals.   :beerchug:

Buffet doesn't mind high corporate rates.  Its merely a minor nuisance for him.  For the smaller business, it is a crippling burden.  A burden so great, in fact, that some of those businesses fold.  And who's there to save those companies or buy them out?  Ol' Warren.  Ready to expand his empire.

Yep, higher corporate tax rates, just like excessive government regulation of business, favors large businesses over small ones.  Makes it very very difficult for small competitors to enter even relatively open markes and even more difficult for them to survive. 

Edit: I thought it was self-evident but upon furthe reflection regarding the intellectual capacity of our resident libs ....  It should be obvious but entrenched big business interests favor lefty-style big government.  Democrats = in bed with big business.  Republicans = stalwart defenders of small business, entrepreneurs, and working people. 

 :billypopcorn: