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Title: Life was good.
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 13, 2008, 12:13:29 PM
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Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: Kat Kid on May 13, 2008, 12:18:00 PM
stop.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 13, 2008, 12:20:08 PM
stop.

read the wally/rodney thread!
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: WavetheWheat on May 13, 2008, 12:23:37 PM
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Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: michigancat on May 13, 2008, 12:27:10 PM
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Hmmm.  I'm guessing you didn't copy and paste that from phog.net.  You should really stick to repeating talking points verbatim and not trying things like this on your own.  You aren't quite ready for the "big time".
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: Jesus Shuttlesworth on May 13, 2008, 12:40:36 PM
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Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: WavetheWheat on May 13, 2008, 12:45:11 PM
It must suck to be so terrified of the future that you are forced to live 5-10 years in the past.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 13, 2008, 12:45:52 PM
It must suck to be so terrified of the future that you are forced to live 5-10 years in the past.

Dude, you wouldn't understand. ku has never had a DOD, and will never.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: wes mantooth on May 13, 2008, 01:30:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqWOhweImn0
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: catdude33 on May 13, 2008, 01:48:11 PM
It must suck to be so terrified of the future that you are forced to live 5-10 years in the past.

Dude, you wouldn't understand. ku has never had a DOD, and will never.

I hate how non-DoD havers always try to give input on things pertaining to DoD's.  It's like me advising Brandon Rush on how to abandon babies.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: steve dave on May 13, 2008, 01:50:46 PM
I hate how non-DoD havers always try to give input on things pertaining to DoD's.  It's like me advising Brandon Rush on how to abandon babies.

Excellent analysis
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on May 13, 2008, 02:19:38 PM
It must suck to be so terrified of the future that you are forced to live 5-10 years in the past.

Dude, you wouldn't understand. ku has never had a DOD, and will never.

I hate how non-DoD havers always try to give input on things pertaining to DoD's.  It's like me advising Brandon Rush on how to abandon babies.

Like Frank trying to teach Self how to support and aid his players in leaving early for the NBA when they are ready.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: Ben on May 13, 2008, 02:30:27 PM
One Big 12 Championship and Zero National Championships = "DOD"


 :lol:
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: MOKSUAZ on May 13, 2008, 02:38:58 PM
One Big 12 Championship and Zero National Championships = "DOD"

no big 12 championships, can't even win the big 12 north in its best season ever, zero national championships, etc... = ku foosball.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: WavetheWheat on May 13, 2008, 02:39:17 PM
One Big 12 Championship and Zero National Championships = "DOD"


 :lol:

To put that in perspective - Kansas Mens Basketball has NEVER gone 10 years without winning a conference title.  So their "DoD" would be equal to the worst 10 year period in our Mens Basketball program history.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: MOKSUAZ on May 13, 2008, 02:41:16 PM
One Big 12 Championship and Zero National Championships = "DOD"


 :lol:

To put that in perspective - Kansas Mens Basketball has NEVER gone 10 years without winning a conference title.  So their "DoD" would be equal to the worst 10 year period in our Mens Basketball program history.

reverting back to that other sport.  hmmmmmmm....... 
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: Ben on May 13, 2008, 02:44:58 PM
Well, when you've got the all-time series, the 12-win season, the better overall record, the win in a BCS Bowl, and the National Coach of the Year in football, one Big 12 title over the course of an entire decade just doesn't seem like that big of a deal. 
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: steve dave on May 13, 2008, 02:50:53 PM
Well, when you've got the all-time series, the 12-win season, the better overall record, the win in a BCS Bowl, and the National Coach of the Year in football, one Big 12 title over the course of an entire decade just doesn't seem like that big of a deal. 

everything you posted is stupid
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: MOKSUAZ on May 13, 2008, 02:51:40 PM
Well, when you've got the all-time series, the 12-win season, the better overall record, the win in a BCS Bowl, and the National Coach of the Year in football, one Big 12 title over the course of an entire decade just doesn't seem like that big of a deal. 


i can't tell who you're talking about there with the mention of a big 12 title.  weird stuff dude, weird indeed.

Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 13, 2008, 03:02:41 PM
1930.

ku's last outright conference title.

Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on May 13, 2008, 03:07:59 PM
uk's next consecutive bowl game will be its first.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 13, 2008, 03:15:39 PM
still #11
http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/calc-wp.pl?start=1993&end=2007&rpct=30&min=5&se=on&by=Wins


Unf-ingreal.

http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/calc-wp.pl?start=1993&end=2003&rpct=30&min=5&se=on&by=Wins
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 13, 2008, 03:33:31 PM
What is the series record since the inception of the Governors Cup??

Damn, the teams K-State had to try and beat to win a Big 12 Championship during the DOD.  Bill Snyder coached against 6 national championship teams and against 5 Heisman trophy winners.

Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on May 13, 2008, 03:40:19 PM
What is the series record since the inception of the Governors Cup??

Damn, the teams K-State had to try and beat to win a Big 12 Championship during the DOD.  Bill Snyder coached against 6 national championship teams and against 5 Heisman trophy winners.



WOW.

I would have surrendered.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: catdude33 on May 13, 2008, 03:40:48 PM
Well, when you've got the all-time series, the 12-win season, the better overall record, the win in a BCS Bowl, and the National Coach of the Year in football, one Big 12 title over the course of an entire decade just doesn't seem like that big of a deal. 


Well if you're going to bring up ridiculously stupid stuff then here's some other things K-State did during that decade:

Six 11 win seasons in 7 years
11 Consecutive bowl games
Fiesta Bowl Champions
2 Fiesta Bowl appearances
2 Cotton Bowl appearances
Won the North Division 3 times
1 Big XII Championship
Ranked #1 in the AP poll
Bill Snyder named AP National Coach of the year in 1998
     -ESPN National Coach of the Year in 1993
     -CNN National Coach of the Year in 1995
     -Named AP Big 8 Coach of the Year in 1990, 1991, 1993
     -Named AP Big XII Coach of the Year in 1998 and 2002
Top 10 Final BCS ranking 4 times

So to sum up, whether you want to talk about championships or all of this other stuff, ku has never come close to matching what KSU did during the DoD.  LOL @ BMW's argument.  What a retard.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 13, 2008, 03:45:42 PM
3 holiday bowls (3 wins)
2 cotton bowls ( 1 win)
17-16 record vs USC, Nebraska, Texas, Ohio State, Tennessee, Oklahoma
22-0 record vs MU and ku
300-40 pf/pa stretch vs ku from 1998-2003 (average of 50-6)
25 game home winning streak from 1996-2000
21 game big 12 winning streak from 1997-1999
1 missed fg from 4 straight big 12 north titles (97-00)
6 top 10 rankings.
10 top 25 rankings
106 consecutive weeks ranked (95-2001)
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: SUPERKSUFAN on May 13, 2008, 03:48:19 PM
 :love: :billypopcorn:
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on May 13, 2008, 03:49:45 PM
3 holiday bowls (3 wins)
2 cotton bowls ( 1 win)
17-16 record vs USC, Nebraska, Texas, Ohio State, Tennessee, Oklahoma
22-0 record vs MU and ku
300-40 pf/pa stretch vs ku from 1998-2003 (average of 50-6)
25 game home winning streak from 1996-2000
21 game big 12 winning streak from 1997-1999
1 missed fg from 4 straight big 12 north titles (97-00)
6 top 10 rankings.
10 top 25 rankings
106 consecutive weeks ranked (95-2001)

 :yikes:
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: steve dave on May 13, 2008, 03:51:08 PM
300-40 pf/pa stretch vs ku from 1998-2003 (average of 50-6)

Holy balls, I was not aware of this one  :eek:
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: scottb1987 on May 13, 2008, 03:53:59 PM
Well, when you've got the all-time series, the 12-win season, the better overall record, the win in a BCS Bowl, and the National Coach of the Year in football, one Big 12 title over the course of an entire decade just doesn't seem like that big of a deal. 


Well if you're going to bring up ridiculously stupid stuff then here's some other things K-State did during that decade:

Six 11 win seasons in 7 years (only been done twice in the history of college football)
11 Consecutive bowl games
Fiesta Bowl Champions
2 Fiesta Bowl appearances
2 Cotton Bowl appearances
Won the North Division 3 times
1 Big XII Championship
Ranked #1 in the AP poll
Bill Snyder named AP National Coach of the year in 1998
     -ESPN National Coach of the Year in 1993
     -CNN National Coach of the Year in 1995
     -Named AP Big 8 Coach of the Year in 1990, 1991, 1993
     -Named AP Big XII Coach of the Year in 1998 and 2002
Top 10 Final BCS ranking 4 times

So to sum up, whether you want to talk about championships or all of this other stuff, ku has never come close to matching what KSU did during the DoD.  LOL @ BMW's argument.  What a retard.

Fixed it for you
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 13, 2008, 03:54:31 PM
ku has 30 big 12 victories since the conference was formed in 1996.

KSU reached the "30" win mark by the date of October 7th 2000. Ironically, a 52-13 win over Kansas marked #30.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 13, 2008, 04:01:45 PM
Standing across the field from Bill Snyder:

Don James (1 National Title)
Pete Carroll (2 National Titles)
Bob Stoops (1 National Title)
Tom Osborne (3 National Titles)
Bill McCartney (1 National Title)
Phil Fulmer (1 National Title)
Mack Brown (1 National Title)

Imagine trying to build the worst college football program in college football history and knowing that you have to go out and beat OU, NU and CU, in several cases, you've got to do it on back-to-back-to-back weekends, and in one case you have to do it, just 3 weeks after playing eventual National Champion Washington in Seattle.


Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: WavetheWheat on May 13, 2008, 04:19:35 PM
With all of these amazing stats I almost feel sorry for the senile old bastard for not ever winning anything meaningful.

I also feel sorry for him that this board trashes him relentlessly about leaving the "cupboard bare" for ScarySmart.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 13, 2008, 04:34:09 PM
Yeah, like Roy Williams never gets bashed by the phogtards.  Damn, we like you, but you're stupid. 
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: pissclams on May 13, 2008, 04:36:39 PM
mangino was getting lynched on phog.net by a lot of ku fans less than a year ago, really no biggie, he deserved it
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: honk4tad on May 13, 2008, 05:04:19 PM
3 holiday bowls (3 wins)
2 cotton bowls ( 1 win)
17-16 record vs USC, Nebraska, Texas, Ohio State, Tennessee, Oklahoma
22-0 record vs MU and ku
300-40 pf/pa stretch vs ku from 1998-2003 (average of 50-6)
25 game home winning streak from 1996-2000
21 game big 12 winning streak from 1997-1999
1 missed fg from 4 straight big 12 north titles (97-00)
6 top 10 rankings.
10 top 25 rankings
106 consecutive weeks ranked (95-2001)

Extremely impressive.

Extremely unimpressive: Ron Prince.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: GoodForAnother on May 13, 2008, 10:13:35 PM
ALL TIME, KSU has more...

Bowl Appearances
Bowl Wins
Back to back winning seasons
Back to back Bowl appearances
Weeks Ranked
Season ending ranked
Season ending top 10 ranked
10 win seasons
9+ win seasons
8+ win seasons

More winning seasons since 1950, the year the 2 poll system was instituted

Since Phog Allen coached ku in the 1920 football season, ku has had 18 coaches. 3 have posted winning records

ku is one of just 4 BCS schools not to go to back to back Bowl games. Vanderbilt, Duke and UConn (which just became D-1 in 2000) are the others.

Since 1950 ku has finished the season ranked in both polls only 6 times. In 68 and 95 they finished in the top 10, their only 2. In one of those years (1995) we beat them 41-7.  In 2008, they only beat us by 6.

The win over VT was ku's first win over a top 10 team since 1995.  KSU has beaten more top 5 teams than ku has beaten top 10 teams.

Oh yeah, and their coach is FAT.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: CatsNShocks on May 13, 2008, 10:15:48 PM
3 holiday bowls (3 wins)
2 cotton bowls ( 1 win)
17-16 record vs USC, Nebraska, Texas, Ohio State, Tennessee, Oklahoma
22-0 record vs MU and ku
300-40 pf/pa stretch vs ku from 1998-2003 (average of 50-6)
25 game home winning streak from 1996-2000
21 game big 12 winning streak from 1997-1999
1 missed fg from 4 straight big 12 north titles (97-00)
6 top 10 rankings.
10 top 25 rankings
106 consecutive weeks ranked (95-2001)

That's gotta hurt.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: kstate16 on May 13, 2008, 10:37:53 PM
3 holiday bowls (3 wins)
2 cotton bowls ( 1 win)
17-16 record vs USC, Nebraska, Texas, Ohio State, Tennessee, Oklahoma
22-0 record vs MU and ku
300-40 pf/pa stretch vs ku from 1998-2003 (average of 50-6)
25 game home winning streak from 1996-2000
21 game big 12 winning streak from 1997-1999
1 missed fg from 4 straight big 12 north titles (97-00)
6 top 10 rankings.
10 top 25 rankings
106 consecutive weeks ranked (95-2001)

That's gotta hurt.
You have to think, all those years we probably would have beaten them if we played them twice, making it 44-0. i mean, relating to "the streak" and basketball terms...i'm just sayin.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: Lamesauce on May 13, 2008, 11:21:35 PM
Just give it a couple of years and ku fans will be saying, "Oh yeah, well remember that one time when we went 12-1, and won the Orange Bowl?".....But you ku fans are right, it is really embarassing to have a DOD to look back on and say, "wow, we were really, really good". I would advise drifting back towards mediocrity before you have a DOD of your own.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: GoodForAnother on May 14, 2008, 02:23:35 AM
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Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: fatty fat fat on May 14, 2008, 03:02:02 AM
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I was an incredible jackass at that game.


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Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: Burgertime on May 14, 2008, 08:17:28 AM
SCOREBOARD!!

Lock the thread.  This one's over.  I (and my Jayhawk brethren) just won.  Hi-C and Little Debbie snack cakes will be served in the dugout.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: steve dave on May 14, 2008, 08:24:54 AM
SCOREBOARD!!

Lock the thread.  This one's over.  I (and my Jayhawk brethren) just won.  Hi-C and Little Debbie snack cakes will be served in the dugout.

I said "you suck" during the hi-five line instead of the obligatory "good game"!  SCOREBOARD THAT!!!1!
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: Burgertime on May 14, 2008, 08:43:41 AM
You obviously read my coup de grace.  Feel free to start a new 'glory days' thread...cuz this one, as the French say, is over.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: wes mantooth on May 14, 2008, 08:56:20 AM
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I was an incredible jackass at that game.


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Seriously, how many ugly football uniforms has ku worn in the last 5 years?
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: WavetheWheat on May 14, 2008, 08:57:25 AM
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Put that Jethro Tull on one more time. 

This thread makes me sad for each and everyone of you catfans.  You show Snyder the door, treat him like dirt since he left and now revere his accomplishments. 

Now you are stuck with Ron.  Good work.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: cireksu on May 14, 2008, 09:07:38 AM
Why do ku fans have such disdain for prince?  is it the texas wins?  or Freeman?
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 14, 2008, 09:09:06 AM
Guys. We beat Texas. Twice.

Life IS good.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: WavetheWheat on May 14, 2008, 09:18:45 AM
Why do ku fans have such disdain for prince?  is it the texas wins?  or Freeman?

Honestly its not disdain at all.  Its actually more like "morbid curiosity" (that desire to look at a bad car accident even though you know the results are going to be ugly) he came in SO cocky and so arrogant.  Not too mention guys like Keitzman completely going nuts for the guy before he even coached a game.  He then came in...won some games that surprised some people....so there was a moment of maybe these guys were right about him.

And then...

The meltdown.  The coaching staff departures, the running off of any QB's that would/could pressure GoldenBoy, the whispers of coaching colleagues treatment, the losses, the stomp, the arrests, the really bad loss to really bad Nebraska team.  Its everything.  Its the complete dismantling of one of the most amazing coaching jobs done in any sport in my lifetime in a matter of 3 years.  Its remarkable.  Its a trainwreck.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: wes mantooth on May 14, 2008, 09:19:38 AM
Remember when Mangino had to cry about the officiating as an excuse for losing the Texas game at home?

At home.

We throttled them on their home field, adding yet another chapter to this storied rivalry.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: Jesus Shuttlesworth on May 14, 2008, 09:27:03 AM
Remember when Mangino had to cry about the officiating as an excuse for losing the Texas game at home?

At home.

We throttled them on their home field, adding yet another chapter to this storied rivalry.


Just think, if the refs hadn't spoiled that game for ku, Mangino would have 1 victory over an above .500 Big 12 team. 
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: steve dave on May 14, 2008, 09:32:07 AM
Remember when Mangino had to cry about the officiating as an excuse for losing the Texas game at home?

At home.

We throttled them on their home field, adding yet another chapter to this storied rivalry.


Just think, if the refs hadn't spoiled that game for ku, Mangino would have 1 victory over an above .500 Big 12 team. 

God that's embarrassing  :lol:
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: wes mantooth on May 14, 2008, 09:35:13 AM
Remember when Mangino had to cry about the officiating as an excuse for losing the Texas game at home?

At home.

We throttled them on their home field, adding yet another chapter to this storied rivalry.


Just think, if the refs hadn't spoiled that game for ku, Mangino would have 1 victory over an above .500 Big 12 team. 

Wait...you're telling me that Mangino doesn't have a win over an above .500 Big XII team?  Holy crap that's embarassing. :lol:
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: catdude33 on May 14, 2008, 10:52:24 AM
Remember when Mangino had to cry about the officiating as an excuse for losing the Texas game at home?

At home.

We throttled them on their home field, adding yet another chapter to this storied rivalry.


Just think, if the refs hadn't spoiled that game for ku, Mangino would have 1 victory over an above .500 Big 12 team. 

Wait...you're telling me that Mangino doesn't have a win over an above .500 Big XII team?  Holy crap that's embarassing. :lol:


National Coach of the Year!!!   :lol: :cyclist: :lol:
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: catzacker on May 14, 2008, 10:58:51 AM
Why do ku fans have such disdain for prince?  is it the texas wins?  or Freeman?

Honestly its not disdain at all.  Its actually more like "morbid curiosity" (that desire to look at a bad car accident even though you know the results are going to be ugly) he came in SO cocky and so arrogant.  Not too mention guys like Keitzman completely going nuts for the guy before he even coached a game.  He then came in...won some games that surprised some people....so there was a moment of maybe these guys were right about him.

And then...

The meltdown.  The coaching staff departures, the running off of any QB's that would/could pressure GoldenBoy, the whispers of coaching colleagues treatment, the losses, the stomp, the arrests, the really bad loss to really bad Nebraska team.  Its everything.  Its the complete dismantling of one of the most amazing coaching jobs done in any sport in my lifetime in a matter of 3 years.  Its remarkable.  Its a trainwreck.

fyi, the coach that did that amazing coaching job was the one who dismantled it (in 2 years), Ron's picking up the pieces.  Say what you will about how he's going about picking up those pieces, but Snyder freaking derailed the train.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: WavetheWheat on May 14, 2008, 11:34:38 AM
Why do ku fans have such disdain for prince?  is it the texas wins?  or Freeman?

Honestly its not disdain at all.  Its actually more like "morbid curiosity" (that desire to look at a bad car accident even though you know the results are going to be ugly) he came in SO cocky and so arrogant.  Not too mention guys like Keitzman completely going nuts for the guy before he even coached a game.  He then came in...won some games that surprised some people....so there was a moment of maybe these guys were right about him.

And then...

The meltdown.  The coaching staff departures, the running off of any QB's that would/could pressure GoldenBoy, the whispers of coaching colleagues treatment, the losses, the stomp, the arrests, the really bad loss to really bad Nebraska team.  Its everything.  Its the complete dismantling of one of the most amazing coaching jobs done in any sport in my lifetime in a matter of 3 years.  Its remarkable.  Its a trainwreck.

fyi, the coach that did that amazing coaching job was the one who dismantled it (in 2 years), Ron's picking up the pieces.  Say what you will about how he's going about picking up those pieces, but Snyder freaking derailed the train.

Interesting bit of tap dancing by your fanbase on this one.  Being able to cherish and glorify the "DoD" all the while trashing the old man for derailing the train.  It must be difficult to separate the two.  Props to those able to do it.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: steve dave on May 14, 2008, 11:37:26 AM
Interesting bit of tap dancing by your fanbase on this one.  Being able to cherish and glorify the "DoD" all the while trashing the old man for derailing the train.  It must be difficult to separate the two.  Props to those able to do it.

Not at all.  It's like the smart Hawk fans that love Roy for what he did at ku but still hate him for leaving them for an elite program.  Only retards think their players/coaches are 100% good or bad. 
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: catzacker on May 14, 2008, 12:24:40 PM
Why do ku fans have such disdain for prince?  is it the texas wins?  or Freeman?

Honestly its not disdain at all.  Its actually more like "morbid curiosity" (that desire to look at a bad car accident even though you know the results are going to be ugly) he came in SO cocky and so arrogant.  Not too mention guys like Keitzman completely going nuts for the guy before he even coached a game.  He then came in...won some games that surprised some people....so there was a moment of maybe these guys were right about him.

And then...

The meltdown.  The coaching staff departures, the running off of any QB's that would/could pressure GoldenBoy, the whispers of coaching colleagues treatment, the losses, the stomp, the arrests, the really bad loss to really bad Nebraska team.  Its everything.  Its the complete dismantling of one of the most amazing coaching jobs done in any sport in my lifetime in a matter of 3 years.  Its remarkable.  Its a trainwreck.

fyi, the coach that did that amazing coaching job was the one who dismantled it (in 2 years), Ron's picking up the pieces.  Say what you will about how he's going about picking up those pieces, but Snyder freaking derailed the train.

Interesting bit of tap dancing by your fanbase on this one.  Being able to cherish and glorify the "DoD" all the while trashing the old man for derailing the train.  It must be difficult to separate the two.  Props to those able to do it.

It's not tap dancing at all, rather it's an honest evaluation, some fans just have more difficulty accepting it because everything has to be either entire good or entirely bad.  A guy can do great things for 15 years and then suck for 2, and just because he sucked for 2 doesn't take away the previous 15. And the last 2 years were set in motion long before the end of '03. 
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: GoodForAnother on May 14, 2008, 01:33:47 PM
Why do ku fans have such disdain for prince?  is it the texas wins?  or Freeman?

Honestly its not disdain at all.  Its actually more like "morbid curiosity" (that desire to look at a bad car accident even though you know the results are going to be ugly) he came in SO cocky and so arrogant.  Not too mention guys like Keitzman completely going nuts for the guy before he even coached a game.  He then came in...won some games that surprised some people....so there was a moment of maybe these guys were right about him.

And then...

The meltdown.  The coaching staff departures, the running off of any QB's that would/could pressure GoldenBoy, the whispers of coaching colleagues treatment, the losses, the stomp, the arrests, the really bad loss to really bad Nebraska team.  Its everything.  Its the complete dismantling of one of the most amazing coaching jobs done in any sport in my lifetime in a matter of 3 years.  Its remarkable.  Its a trainwreck.

fyi, the coach that did that amazing coaching job was the one who dismantled it (in 2 years), Ron's picking up the pieces.  Say what you will about how he's going about picking up those pieces, but Snyder freaking derailed the train.

Interesting bit of tap dancing by your fanbase on this one.  Being able to cherish and glorify the "DoD" all the while trashing the old man for derailing the train.  It must be difficult to separate the two.  Props to those able to do it.

Not as much Snyder's fault as it was his assistants.  He needed to fire several and get new ones, but didn't.  His main fault was loyalty to his crappy assistants.

In that regard, we aren't trashing Snyder so much as the staff overall.  Recruiting had become kind of an afterthought.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: CatsNShocks on May 14, 2008, 02:24:22 PM
Why do ku fans have such disdain for prince?  is it the texas wins?  or Freeman?

Honestly its not disdain at all.  Its actually more like "morbid curiosity" (that desire to look at a bad car accident even though you know the results are going to be ugly) he came in SO cocky and so arrogant.  Not too mention guys like Keitzman completely going nuts for the guy before he even coached a game.  He then came in...won some games that surprised some people....so there was a moment of maybe these guys were right about him.

And then...

The meltdown.  The coaching staff departures, the running off of any QB's that would/could pressure GoldenBoy, the whispers of coaching colleagues treatment, the losses, the stomp, the arrests, the really bad loss to really bad Nebraska team.  Its everything.  Its the complete dismantling of one of the most amazing coaching jobs done in any sport in my lifetime in a matter of 3 years.  Its remarkable.  Its a trainwreck.

fyi, the coach that did that amazing coaching job was the one who dismantled it (in 2 years), Ron's picking up the pieces.  Say what you will about how he's going about picking up those pieces, but Snyder freaking derailed the train.

Interesting bit of tap dancing by your fanbase on this one.  Being able to cherish and glorify the "DoD" all the while trashing the old man for derailing the train.  It must be difficult to separate the two.  Props to those able to do it.

Not as much Snyder's fault as it was his assistants.  He needed to fire several and get new ones, but didn't.  His main fault was loyalty to his crappy assistants.

In that regard, we aren't trashing Snyder so much as the staff overall.  Recruiting had become kind of an afterthought.


Not unlike Prince having to get an entirely new staff every year, but Snyders were leaving for head coaching jobs at the D-1 level. Princes are leaving because he's running them off.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: Saulbadguy on May 14, 2008, 03:39:16 PM
Guys, beating Texas at home happens less than Orange Bowl victories.  We've beaten them there twice. I think we should get trophies for that.
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: SUPERKSUFAN on May 14, 2008, 03:46:14 PM
Guys, beating Texas at home happens less than Orange Bowl victories.  We've beaten them there twice. I think we should get trophies for that.
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Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: honk4tad on May 14, 2008, 04:40:52 PM
Hey.  If you guys are happy with Prince, I'm happy with Prince!  EMAW!!!
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: chum1 on May 14, 2008, 04:43:50 PM
Only one trophy matters.

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Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: SUPERKSUFAN on May 14, 2008, 04:45:51 PM
Only one trophy matters.

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/tdj7349/kusb.jpg)
:lol:
shouldn't that say uk?
Title: Re: Life was good.
Post by: cyclist on May 14, 2008, 05:39:00 PM
Only one trophy matters.

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/tdj7349/kusb.jpg)
:lol:
shouldn't that say uk?

Yes and in small letters...

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