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Title: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
Post by: ksuno1stunner on April 07, 2008, 01:10:24 PM
 :lick: :lick: :lick:

My favorite fwiw :ksu:
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Post by: ew2x4 on April 07, 2008, 01:26:49 PM
McAlisters has amazing mnc
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Post by: Skydog on April 07, 2008, 01:31:02 PM
McAlisters has amazing mnc

McAllisters has amazing everything... except the fruitcup.
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Post by: pissclams on April 07, 2008, 01:49:10 PM
capital grill in kc has lobster baked mac and cheese.  tremendous.  and tremendous timing on the thread 'stuns, i've been a mac and cheese eating machine lately.  4 realz.
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Post by: fatty fat fat on April 07, 2008, 03:00:01 PM
great job moving this thread, retard mods.
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Post by: Skydog on April 07, 2008, 03:06:24 PM
Ever been to a Macaroni Grill?
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Post by: steve dave on April 07, 2008, 03:07:28 PM
I really like M&C but not the kraft blue box kind.  Good restraunt Mac is incredibly good.  I've found that bbq places have consistently good Mac & Cheese and I sometimes like to put bbq sauce on it (spicy only)  :lick:
Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
Post by: Kat Kid on April 07, 2008, 03:37:58 PM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, the stink in the drink, the poop in the pool etc.; but mac 'n cheez is terrible.  I'd put it in there with hamburger helper, baloney, grilled cheez and ass. 

Better options on a budget: 

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Post by: mjrod on April 07, 2008, 03:39:08 PM
great job moving this thread, retard mods.

Go blow yourself up.
Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 07, 2008, 03:43:07 PM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, the stink in the drink, the poop in the pool etc.; but mac 'n cheez is terrible.  I'd put it in there with hamburger helper, baloney, grilled cheez and ass. 



Absurd. Mac n cheese is excellent. The only problem is it's insanely hard to cook. You have to go to the pot multiple times.
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Post by: steve dave on April 07, 2008, 03:45:08 PM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, the stink in the drink, the poop in the pool etc.; but mac 'n cheez is terrible.  I'd put it in there with hamburger helper, baloney, grilled cheez and ass. 

Better options on a budget: 

  • tuna fish in can + pepper, soy sauce, jalapeņos (fresh or pickled depending on availability).  eat with fork.
  • Ramen noodles with tuna on top.  Boil water (duh), add noodz, wait til done, strain, throw tuna on top with soy sauce.
  • Burrito with cheese in with the beans.  heat it up, grab a 'tilla and eat.  Hot sauce pretty much needed.  Add tuna to taste.
  • Egg noodles with tuna.  Boil water (double duh), add the egg noodles (or bowties.  I like bowties, esp. if on sale) then strain, add soy, fresh ground pepp and tuna.
  • Lastly, cook up some eggs.  They taste good.  Add salsa.  Go crazy!

 :eek:  Christ, how much tuna do you eat  :eek:
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Post by: fatty fat fat on April 07, 2008, 03:46:15 PM
Tuna is healthy, good for kk. I wish i liked it.
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Post by: steve dave on April 07, 2008, 03:48:01 PM
Tuna is healthy, good for kk. I wish i liked it.

QFT.  Everything I like, you know, tastes good and stuff.
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Post by: ChiefCatchacold on April 07, 2008, 03:59:47 PM
I'm addicted to these things:

(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:eSq6gsM0o3mi5M:http://www.theimpulsivebuy.com/images/easymac.jpg)

Easy mac, not just a creative name.  :lick:   
(Get the cups, the pouch version tastes crapty.  And stay away from the more exotic flavors.  Cheese only, in my opinionimo)
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Post by: Rick Daris on April 07, 2008, 04:28:26 PM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, the stink in the drink, the poop in the pool etc.; but mac 'n cheez is terrible.  I'd put it in there with hamburger helper, baloney, grilled cheez and ass. 

Better options on a budget: 

  • tuna fish in can + pepper, soy sauce, jalapeņos (fresh or pickled depending on availability).  eat with fork.
  • Ramen noodles with tuna on top.  Boil water (duh), add noodz, wait til done, strain, throw tuna on top with soy sauce.
  • Burrito with cheese in with the beans.  heat it up, grab a 'tilla and eat.  Hot sauce pretty much needed.  Add tuna to taste.
  • Egg noodles with tuna.  Boil water (double duh), add the egg noodles (or bowties.  I like bowties, esp. if on sale) then strain, add soy, fresh ground pepp and tuna.
  • Lastly, cook up some eggs.  They taste good.  Add salsa.  Go crazy!

 :eek:  Christ, how much tuna do you eat  :eek:

Why doesn't he just put tuna in the mac n cheese  :confused:
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Post by: Kat Kid on April 07, 2008, 04:42:48 PM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, the stink in the drink, the poop in the pool etc.; but mac 'n cheez is terrible.  I'd put it in there with hamburger helper, baloney, grilled cheez and ass. 

Better options on a budget: 

  • tuna fish in can + pepper, soy sauce, jalapeņos (fresh or pickled depending on availability).  eat with fork.
  • Ramen noodles with tuna on top.  Boil water (duh), add noodz, wait til done, strain, throw tuna on top with soy sauce.
  • Burrito with cheese in with the beans.  heat it up, grab a 'tilla and eat.  Hot sauce pretty much needed.  Add tuna to taste.
  • Egg noodles with tuna.  Boil water (double duh), add the egg noodles (or bowties.  I like bowties, esp. if on sale) then strain, add soy, fresh ground pepp and tuna.
  • Lastly, cook up some eggs.  They taste good.  Add salsa.  Go crazy!

 :eek:  Christ, how much tuna do you eat  :eek:

It is a cheap, pre-cooked and tasty form of protein.  I'll keep going back to that well until it dries up, and I'll put it this way, that well is tapped into Lake Baikal.
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Post by: Rick Daris on April 07, 2008, 04:53:42 PM
http://www.nrdc.org/health/effects/mercury/tuna.asp  :ohno:
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Post by: cireksu on April 07, 2008, 05:53:47 PM
http://www.nrdc.org/health/effects/mercury/tuna.asp  :ohno:
qft

Hotdogs, rice, chicken, stirfry veggies, tuna, potatoes.

everything you need.  very cheap.  not mixed all together.
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Post by: sys on April 07, 2008, 07:05:05 PM
i would eat tuna never. ridiculously stupid food.


i boiled some macaroni the other day then threw in some butter, milk and every kind of cheese left in the fridge (4 difs iirc).  a little salt and pepper on top.  pretty good.
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Post by: Kat Kid on April 07, 2008, 07:11:51 PM
i would eat tuna never. ridiculously stupid food.


i boiled some macaroni the other day then threw in some butter, milk and every kind of cheese left in the fridge (4 difs iirc).  a little salt and pepper on top.  pretty good.

asians live forever.  can you tell me why?

I will change (it will be hard) if you tell me.

What if I eat a ton of eggs?  Better?
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Post by: steve dave on April 07, 2008, 07:15:40 PM
Eat a ton of Spaghetti O's.  I do and I'm not dead yet.  PS 'Sketti O's rule.
Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
Post by: jmlynch1 on April 07, 2008, 07:25:09 PM
i would eat tuna never. ridiculously stupid food.


i boiled some macaroni the other day then threw in some butter, milk and every kind of cheese left in the fridge (4 difs iirc).  a little salt and pepper on top.  pretty good.
Why eat the tuna when you can go to some places and get the much tastier dolphins?
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Post by: sys on April 07, 2008, 07:50:42 PM
asians live forever.  can you tell me why?

genes, i'm sure.  i see lots of old people not eating tuna, fwiw.
Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
Post by: Kat Kid on April 07, 2008, 08:07:49 PM
asians live forever.  can you tell me why?

genes, i'm sure.  i see lots of old people not eating tuna, fwiw.

can you tell me why I should stop eating it?  Is it just mercury?  Should I be really concerned about that?  I feel like the wifi and microwaves and constant bombardment of crap on my testes/weiner/brain (in that order) is probably worse than at any time in human history, so I just kind of carry on.
Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
Post by: sys on April 07, 2008, 08:10:28 PM
tuna tastes like cat dick.  if you actually like the taste, no reason to stop eating it.


i wouldn't eat or not eat anything based on health.  life's too short for that crap.
Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
Post by: Kat Kid on April 07, 2008, 08:13:22 PM
tuna tastes like cat dick.  if you actually like the taste, no reason to stop eating it.


i wouldn't eat or not eat anything based on health.  life's too short for that crap.

Oh good times.

I pretty much grew up on it because my mom worked a lot.
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Post by: Dirty Sanchez on April 07, 2008, 11:52:01 PM
tuna is for flannel-clad lesbians.
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Post by: catdude33 on April 08, 2008, 12:50:47 AM
I like Velveeta(sp) shells n' cheese.  Way better than Kraft or any homemade crap.
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Post by: steve dave on April 08, 2008, 06:47:29 AM
Yeah, I think tuna is prob. healthier for you than most stuff. 
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Post by: Chingon on April 08, 2008, 09:58:21 AM
It already exists (http://www.smacnyc.com/).

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Post by: pissclams on April 08, 2008, 11:53:24 AM
that damned gruyere cheese is the key
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Post by: michigancat on April 08, 2008, 12:04:50 PM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, the stink in the drink, the poop in the pool etc.; but mac 'n cheez is terrible.  I'd put it in there with hamburger helper, baloney, grilled cheez and ass. 

Better options on a budget: 

  • tuna fish in can + pepper, soy sauce, jalapeņos (fresh or pickled depending on availability).  eat with fork.
  • Ramen noodles with tuna on top.  Boil water (duh), add noodz, wait til done, strain, throw tuna on top with soy sauce.
  • Burrito with cheese in with the beans.  heat it up, grab a 'tilla and eat.  Hot sauce pretty much needed.  Add tuna to taste.
  • Egg noodles with tuna.  Boil water (double duh), add the egg noodles (or bowties.  I like bowties, esp. if on sale) then strain, add soy, fresh ground pepp and tuna.
  • Lastly, cook up some eggs.  They taste good.  Add salsa.  Go crazy!

Great suggestions.  I would add one of my favorites:  Ramen + eggs.

1)  Boil Water
2)  right before putting in noodles, crack an egg and drop the egg (no shell) in the water.
3)  add noodles
4)  Chop up cooked egg w/ fork while stirring delicious MSG into noodles.
5)  Enjoy!
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Post by: pissclams on April 08, 2008, 12:21:43 PM
rusty apparently likes to throw up  :flush:
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Post by: Kat Kid on April 08, 2008, 01:26:31 PM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, the stink in the drink, the poop in the pool etc.; but mac 'n cheez is terrible.  I'd put it in there with hamburger helper, baloney, grilled cheez and ass. 

Better options on a budget: 

  • tuna fish in can + pepper, soy sauce, jalapeņos (fresh or pickled depending on availability).  eat with fork.
  • Ramen noodles with tuna on top.  Boil water (duh), add noodz, wait til done, strain, throw tuna on top with soy sauce.
  • Burrito with cheese in with the beans.  heat it up, grab a 'tilla and eat.  Hot sauce pretty much needed.  Add tuna to taste.
  • Egg noodles with tuna.  Boil water (double duh), add the egg noodles (or bowties.  I like bowties, esp. if on sale) then strain, add soy, fresh ground pepp and tuna.
  • Lastly, cook up some eggs.  They taste good.  Add salsa.  Go crazy!

Great suggestions.  I would add one of my favorites:  Ramen + eggs.

1)  Boil Water
2)  right before putting in noodles, crack an egg and drop the egg (no shell) in the water.
3)  add noodles
4)  Chop up cooked egg w/ fork while stirring delicious MSG into noodles.
5)  Enjoy!


YOU'RE BACK!
Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
Post by: waks on April 09, 2008, 04:47:31 AM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, the stink in the drink, the poop in the pool etc.; but mac 'n cheez is terrible.  I'd put it in there with hamburger helper, baloney, grilled cheez and ass. 

Better options on a budget: 

    • tuna fish in can + pepper, soy sauce, jalapeņos (fresh or pickled depending on availability).  eat with fork.
    [/b]
    • Ramen noodles with tuna on top.  Boil water (duh), add noodz, wait til done, strain, throw tuna on top with soy sauce.
    • Burrito with cheese in with the beans.  heat it up, grab a 'tilla and eat.  Hot sauce pretty much needed.  Add tuna to taste.
    • Egg noodles with tuna.  Boil water (double duh), add the egg noodles (or bowties.  I like bowties, esp. if on sale) then strain, add soy, fresh ground pepp and tuna.
    • Lastly, cook up some eggs.  They taste good.  Add salsa.  Go crazy!
    Tried this one. It was ok.
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    Post by: Saulbadguy on April 09, 2008, 09:23:51 AM
    Fried Matzah.

    Go to the jew section of your local grocery store.  If you live in Manhattan, i'm not sure where this would be.  Pick up a box of Manischewitz Matzah.  A good portion for 1 person is 3 "loaves" of Matzah.

    Soak 3 "loaves" in a large bowl of lukewarm water.
    When soggy, drain water, crumble up matzah, and mix in 2 or 3 eggs. (2 extra large, 3 medium, w/e)
    Mix together until matzah is covered with egg.
    Heat up a skillet, coat skillet w/ butter (a good amount)
    Fry matzah over medium high heat.

    Very filling. I like to salt mine. Some people like salt+pepper.  Others enjoy sugar and cinnamon, or even jelly. The possibilities are endless!
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    Post by: steve dave on April 09, 2008, 11:18:47 AM
    Fried Matzah.

    Go to the jew section of your local grocery store.  If you live in Manhattan, i'm not sure where this would be.  Pick up a box of Manischewitz Matzah.  A good portion for 1 person is 3 "loaves" of Matzah.

    Soak 3 "loaves" in a large bowl of lukewarm water.
    When soggy, drain water, crumble up matzah, and mix in 2 or 3 eggs. (2 extra large, 3 medium, w/e)
    Mix together until matzah is covered with egg.
    Heat up a skillet, coat skillet w/ butter (a good amount)
    Fry matzah over medium high heat.

    Very filling. I like to salt mine. Some people like salt+pepper.  Others enjoy sugar and cinnamon, or even jelly. The possibilities are endless!

    Is there trans fat in matzah?
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    Post by: Saulbadguy on April 09, 2008, 11:32:24 AM
    Fried Matzah.

    Go to the jew section of your local grocery store.  If you live in Manhattan, i'm not sure where this would be.  Pick up a box of Manischewitz Matzah.  A good portion for 1 person is 3 "loaves" of Matzah.

    Soak 3 "loaves" in a large bowl of lukewarm water.
    When soggy, drain water, crumble up matzah, and mix in 2 or 3 eggs. (2 extra large, 3 medium, w/e)
    Mix together until matzah is covered with egg.
    Heat up a skillet, coat skillet w/ butter (a good amount)
    Fry matzah over medium high heat.

    Very filling. I like to salt mine. Some people like salt+pepper.  Others enjoy sugar and cinnamon, or even jelly. The possibilities are endless!

    Is there trans fat in matzah?
    :-*

    no.
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    Post by: steve dave on April 09, 2008, 11:49:02 AM
    Fried Matzah.

    Go to the jew section of your local grocery store.  If you live in Manhattan, i'm not sure where this would be.  Pick up a box of Manischewitz Matzah.  A good portion for 1 person is 3 "loaves" of Matzah.

    Soak 3 "loaves" in a large bowl of lukewarm water.
    When soggy, drain water, crumble up matzah, and mix in 2 or 3 eggs. (2 extra large, 3 medium, w/e)
    Mix together until matzah is covered with egg.
    Heat up a skillet, coat skillet w/ butter (a good amount)
    Fry matzah over medium high heat.

    Very filling. I like to salt mine. Some people like salt+pepper.  Others enjoy sugar and cinnamon, or even jelly. The possibilities are endless!

    Is there trans fat in matzah?
    :-*

    no.

    Then I'm all over this.  I'll report back.
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    Post by: JavaCat on April 09, 2008, 11:56:24 AM
    You guys eat some seriously crapty food. I cooked some ziti with chicken, broccoli, sun-dried tomatoes and a creamy Asiago cheese sauce last night. That's mac n' cheese.
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    Post by: Kat Kid on April 09, 2008, 12:01:41 PM
    You guys eat some seriously crapty food. I cooked some ziti with chicken, broccoli, sun-dried tomatoes and a creamy Asiago cheese sauce last night. That's mac n' cheese.

    WHOA!  Hey, take it easy fantsy pants.  Some of us don't dine in watching Tuscan sunsets on our back porch with a vintage Cabernet.
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    Post by: ECN on April 09, 2008, 12:16:17 PM
    ever been to cheeseheads?

    all they serve is grilled cheese..(kc)
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    Post by: Bhyaaaaa! on April 09, 2008, 01:43:12 PM
    I've been to the mac & cheese restaurant in NY (that was linked) three times since last summer.

    Now I know damn well that I am going to end up running through the streets looking for a restroom almost immediately after finishing the meal. But I go back.

    A Mac & Chz restaurant would make a killing in Aggieville IMO. Anyplace that's any kind of a gimmick or novelty can do well in college towns.

    e.g. The Cereal Barn & Peanut Cafe in Bloomington, In

    Cereality in Tempe, AZ and State College, PA

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    Post by: sys on April 09, 2008, 01:44:40 PM
    that damned gruyere cheese is the key

    just bought some gruyere.  mostly for fr. onion soup, but i'm saving some for some m+c.  planning to blend with camembert and raclette.  still trying to decide whether to toss in some blue cheese or a mild sheep cheese as well (one or the other, obviously, not both).

    will be drinking with with a young grenache.
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    Post by: steve dave on April 09, 2008, 01:55:19 PM
    that damned gruyere cheese is the key

    just bought some gruyere.  mostly for fr. onion soup, but i'm saving some for some m+c.  planning to blend with camembert and raclette.  still trying to decide whether to toss in some blue cheese or a mild sheep cheese as well (one or the other, obviously, not both).

    will be drinking with with a young grenache.

    I don't understand one damn thing you just said  :confused:
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    Post by: Saulbadguy on April 09, 2008, 01:57:12 PM
    that damned gruyere cheese is the key

    just bought some gruyere.  mostly for fr. onion soup, but i'm saving some for some m+c.  planning to blend with camembert and raclette.  still trying to decide whether to toss in some blue cheese or a mild sheep cheese as well (one or the other, obviously, not both).

    will be drinking with with a young grenache.
    Do you like your camembert a bit runny?
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    Post by: pissclams on April 09, 2008, 01:59:45 PM
    that damned gruyere cheese is the key

    just bought some gruyere.  mostly for fr. onion soup, but i'm saving some for some m+c.  planning to blend with camembert and raclette.  still trying to decide whether to toss in some blue cheese or a mild sheep cheese as well (one or the other, obviously, not both).

    will be drinking with with a young grenache.

    sys.  i see where you're going with this.  give this recipe a shot-  the key when making the bechamel is to watch your heat, don't turn it up too high.

    Topping:
    1/4 cup bread crumbs
    1/4 cup grated Parmesan

    Bechamel Sauce:
    4 tablespoons butter
    4 tablespoons all-purpose flour
    2 cups whole milk or half-and-half
    Salt and freshly ground black pepper
    8 ounces Gruyere, grated
    3 ounces mozzarella grated

    French Onion "Soup":
    3 tablespoons butter
    1 tablespoon extra-virgin olive oil
    3 large white onions, thinly sliced
    6 cloves garlic, peeled and chopped
    2 tablespoons honey
    Salt and freshly ground black pepper
    1 cup dry sherry
    2 cups beef stock
    8 sprigs fresh thyme leaves
    1 pound pasta, cooked al dente (elbow macaroni, ziti, or fusilli work well)


    Preheat oven to 350 degrees F.
    Topping: Combine bread crumbs and Parmesan cheese in a small bowl and set aside.

    Bechamel Sauce: Melt 4 tablespoons of the butter over low heat in a medium saucepan. Add the flour and stir to combine. Stir constantly, for about 3 minutes. Increase heat to medium and whisk in the milk or half-and-half, adding a little at a time and cook until thickened, about 4 to 5 minutes. Lower heat, season with the salt and pepper and add Gruyere and mozzarella cheeses. Stir until cheese is melted and sauce is smooth. Set aside.

    French Onion "Soup:" Heat 2 tablespoons of the butter and olive oil over medium-high heat in a large saucepan. Add onions, cover, and cook 10 to 15 minutes, stirring frequently. Remove cover, add garlic and honey, and continue to cook uncovered, stirring frequently, until onions are caramelized, about 10 to 15 minutes. Season with salt and a generous amount of pepper. Remove pot from heat and add sherry. Return to heat and stir to remove browned bits from bottom of pan. Reduce sherry by half, then add stock and thyme and cook until almost all liquid is evaporated. Remove from heat.

    Grease a 3-quart baking dish or casserole with the last tablespoon of butter or spray with nonstick cooking spray. Combine cooked pasta with onion "soup" mixture and bechamel sauce, and stir well to combine. Transfer pasta to baking dish and sprinkle with bread crumb/Parmesan topping.

    Bake until top is golden brown and cheese is bubbly, about 35 to 40 minutes. Remove from oven and let cool slightly before serving.
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    Post by: steve dave on April 09, 2008, 02:07:16 PM
    Noodles:
    1 Mother f*cking bag of macaroni

    Sauce:
    1 whole god damned brick of velveeta
    Some milk

    1. Cook noodles
    2. Melt cheese/milk
    3. Mix
    4. Hot sauce to mother f*cking taste
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: Saulbadguy on April 09, 2008, 02:09:15 PM
    milk+orange powder+butter=cheese.

    End of story.
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: ksu_FAN on April 09, 2008, 02:15:21 PM
    that damned gruyere cheese is the key

    just bought some gruyere.  mostly for fr. onion soup, but i'm saving some for some m+c.  planning to blend with camembert and raclette.  still trying to decide whether to toss in some blue cheese or a mild sheep cheese as well (one or the other, obviously, not both).

    will be drinking with with a young grenache.

    sys.  i see where you're going with this.  give this recipe a shot-  the key when making the bechamel is to watch your heat, don't turn it up too high.

    Topping:
    1/4 cup bread crumbs
    1/4 cup grated Parmesan

    Bechamel Sauce:
    4 tablespoons butter
    4 tablespoons all-purpose flour
    2 cups whole milk or half-and-half
    Salt and freshly ground black pepper
    8 ounces Gruyere, grated
    3 ounces mozzarella grated

    French Onion "Soup":
    3 tablespoons butter
    1 tablespoon extra-virgin olive oil
    3 large white onions, thinly sliced
    6 cloves garlic, peeled and chopped
    2 tablespoons honey
    Salt and freshly ground black pepper
    1 cup dry sherry
    2 cups beef stock
    8 sprigs fresh thyme leaves
    1 pound pasta, cooked al dente (elbow macaroni, ziti, or fusilli work well)


    Preheat oven to 350 degrees F.
    Topping: Combine bread crumbs and Parmesan cheese in a small bowl and set aside.

    Bechamel Sauce: Melt 4 tablespoons of the butter over low heat in a medium saucepan. Add the flour and stir to combine. Stir constantly, for about 3 minutes. Increase heat to medium and whisk in the milk or half-and-half, adding a little at a time and cook until thickened, about 4 to 5 minutes. Lower heat, season with the salt and pepper and add Gruyere and mozzarella cheeses. Stir until cheese is melted and sauce is smooth. Set aside.

    French Onion "Soup:" Heat 2 tablespoons of the butter and olive oil over medium-high heat in a large saucepan. Add onions, cover, and cook 10 to 15 minutes, stirring frequently. Remove cover, add garlic and honey, and continue to cook uncovered, stirring frequently, until onions are caramelized, about 10 to 15 minutes. Season with salt and a generous amount of pepper. Remove pot from heat and add sherry. Return to heat and stir to remove brpwn3d bits from bottom of pan. Reduce sherry by half, then add stock and thyme and cook until almost all liquid is evaporated. Remove from heat.

    Grease a 3-quart baking dish or casserole with the last tablespoon of butter or spray with nonstick cooking spray. Combine cooked pasta with onion "soup" mixture and bechamel sauce, and stir well to combine. Transfer pasta to baking dish and sprinkle with bread crumb/Parmesan topping.

    Bake until top is golden brown and cheese is bubbly, about 35 to 40 minutes. Remove from oven and let cool slightly before serving.

    That sounds good.  I'm a steak and potatos guy by nature, but I'm a fan of french onion soup and good mac and cheese. 

    Not real fan of wine though.  New Belgium products are much better, IMO. 

    Or Tallgrass, one of my new favorites.  Can't wait for the new Tallgrass Wheat in May or Tallgrass bottles in June.
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: sys on April 09, 2008, 02:40:50 PM
    beer's ok.  wine is better.


    thanks for the 'cipe 'clams.  a little more work than i had planned, but :lick:.
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: RonLongshaft on April 09, 2008, 02:44:56 PM
    I like Velveeta(sp) shells n' cheese.  Way better than Kraft or any homemade crap.

    QFT

    FWI - they dont reheat well though (microwave). but far and away the best out there.
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: Saulbadguy on April 09, 2008, 02:47:52 PM
    beer's ok.  wine is better.
    I think that is kind of a broad statement.  I like drinking a wine with dinner sometimes, but rarely drink it by itself.  Beer is the opposite.  Plus wine is more expensive.  My parents went to Spain last year and they said wine was redic. cheap, like a few bucks a bottle for good wine.
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: sys on April 09, 2008, 02:55:05 PM
    Plus wine is more expensive.  My parents went to Spain last year and they said wine was redic. cheap, like a few bucks a bottle for good wine.

    more of a warm weather/cold thing for me than w. food or not.  below 70 or so, i go wine pretty consistently.

    my go to wine is 1.49 euro/bottle.  domestic beer is cheap too though.  around .65-1.20 (depending on brand and store) per liter.
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: pissclams on April 09, 2008, 03:07:40 PM
    beer's ok.  wine is better.
    I think that is kind of a broad statement.  I like drinking a wine with dinner sometimes, but rarely drink it by itself.  Beer is the opposite.  Plus wine is more expensive.  My parents went to Spain last year and they said wine was redic. cheap, like a few bucks a bottle for good wine.
    spanish wine is just generally inexpensive.  don't read that to say that it's not good. 
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: michigancat on April 09, 2008, 04:02:42 PM
    They sell wine at aldi's.  very good prices.
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: ECN on April 09, 2008, 04:19:52 PM
    night train.

    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: Rick Daris on April 09, 2008, 07:36:28 PM
    that damned gruyere cheese is the key

    just bought some gruyere.  mostly for fr. onion soup, but i'm saving some for some m+c.  planning to blend with camembert and raclette.  still trying to decide whether to toss in some blue cheese or a mild sheep cheese as well (one or the other, obviously, not both).

    will be drinking with with a young grenache.

    sys.  i see where you're going with this.  give this recipe a shot-  the key when making the bechamel is to watch your heat, don't turn it up too high.

    Topping:
    1/4 cup bread crumbs
    1/4 cup grated Parmesan

    Bechamel Sauce:
    4 tablespoons butter
    4 tablespoons all-purpose flour
    2 cups whole milk or half-and-half
    Salt and freshly ground black pepper
    8 ounces Gruyere, grated
    3 ounces mozzarella grated

    French Onion "Soup":
    3 tablespoons butter
    1 tablespoon extra-virgin olive oil
    3 large white onions, thinly sliced
    6 cloves garlic, peeled and chopped
    2 tablespoons honey
    Salt and freshly ground black pepper
    1 cup dry sherry
    2 cups beef stock
    8 sprigs fresh thyme leaves
    1 pound pasta, cooked al dente (elbow macaroni, ziti, or fusilli work well)


    Preheat oven to 350 degrees F.
    Topping: Combine bread crumbs and Parmesan cheese in a small bowl and set aside.

    Bechamel Sauce: Melt 4 tablespoons of the butter over low heat in a medium saucepan. Add the flour and stir to combine. Stir constantly, for about 3 minutes. Increase heat to medium and whisk in the milk or half-and-half, adding a little at a time and cook until thickened, about 4 to 5 minutes. Lower heat, season with the salt and pepper and add Gruyere and mozzarella cheeses. Stir until cheese is melted and sauce is smooth. Set aside.

    French Onion "Soup:" Heat 2 tablespoons of the butter and olive oil over medium-high heat in a large saucepan. Add onions, cover, and cook 10 to 15 minutes, stirring frequently. Remove cover, add garlic and honey, and continue to cook uncovered, stirring frequently, until onions are caramelized, about 10 to 15 minutes. Season with salt and a generous amount of pepper. Remove pot from heat and add sherry. Return to heat and stir to remove brpwn3d bits from bottom of pan. Reduce sherry by half, then add stock and thyme and cook until almost all liquid is evaporated. Remove from heat.

    Grease a 3-quart baking dish or casserole with the last tablespoon of butter or spray with nonstick cooking spray. Combine cooked pasta with onion "soup" mixture and bechamel sauce, and stir well to combine. Transfer pasta to baking dish and sprinkle with bread crumb/Parmesan topping.

    Bake until top is golden brown and cheese is bubbly, about 35 to 40 minutes. Remove from oven and let cool slightly before serving.

    That sounds good.  I'm a steak and potatos guy by nature, but I'm a fan of french onion soup and good mac and cheese. 

    Not real fan of wine though.  New Belgium products are much better, IMO. 

    Or Tallgrass, one of my new favorites.  Can't wait for the new Tallgrass Wheat in May or Tallgrass bottles in June.

    I've heard that the wheat is kind of different/not very good and prob won't appeal to the masses like the boulevard one does fwiw.
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: Kat Kid on April 09, 2008, 08:26:44 PM
    Anyone know much about the investment opportunities available for tallgrass?  what is a minimum buy?  what are projected returns etc.?

    Have heard d00d is looking for capital.  It would be a ridiculous investment for the small amount of $$ I have, but an awesome one.  And Awesome wins every time, especially in the financial markets!
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: Rick Daris on April 10, 2008, 08:22:59 AM
    Anyone know much about the investment opportunities available for tallgrass?  what is a minimum buy?  what are projected returns etc.?

    Have heard d00d is looking for capital.  It would be a ridiculous investment for the small amount of $$ I have, but an awesome one.  And Awesome wins every time, especially in the financial markets!

    Don't know, but I can ask a few people who should the next time I come back to manhattan (1-2 weeks).
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: Kat Kid on April 10, 2008, 10:23:43 AM
    Anyone know much about the investment opportunities available for tallgrass?  what is a minimum buy?  what are projected returns etc.?

    Have heard d00d is looking for capital.  It would be a ridiculous investment for the small amount of $$ I have, but an awesome one.  And Awesome wins every time, especially in the financial markets!

    Don't know, but I can ask a few people who should the next time I come back to manhattan (1-2 weeks).

    Cool.  post it up, pm, whatever you feel is appropriate,
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: waks on April 10, 2008, 10:28:33 AM
    Anyone know much about the investment opportunities available for tallgrass?  what is a minimum buy?  what are projected returns etc.?

    Have heard d00d is looking for capital.  It would be a ridiculous investment for the small amount of $$ I have, but an awesome one.  And Awesome wins every time, especially in the financial markets!

    Don't know, but I can ask a few people who should the next time I come back to manhattan (1-2 weeks).

    Cool.  post it up, pm, whatever you feel is appropriate,
    Is Tallgrass better than Boulevard? Boulevard is delicious IMO.
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: Kat Kid on April 10, 2008, 10:48:31 AM
    Whoa!  Young waks!  Take it easy bro.  The path to alcoholism is dangerous and loopy and it starts with one sip of a delightfully cold bottle of suds on a hot summer's day.  You should wait until you are up at State, then I'll show you the ropes.
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: Saulbadguy on April 10, 2008, 10:52:33 AM
     :jerkoff:
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: waks on April 10, 2008, 11:50:24 AM
    Whoa!  Young waks!  Take it easy bro.  The path to alcoholism is dangerous and loopy and it starts with one sip of a delightfully cold bottle of suds on a hot summer's day.  You should wait until you are up at State, then I'll show you the ropes.
    Will you be there next year? Remember, mom's going to pay you $500.
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: ksu_FAN on April 10, 2008, 11:57:38 AM
    Anyone know much about the investment opportunities available for tallgrass?  what is a minimum buy?  what are projected returns etc.?

    Have heard d00d is looking for capital.  It would be a ridiculous investment for the small amount of $$ I have, but an awesome one.  And Awesome wins every time, especially in the financial markets!

    Don't know, but I can ask a few people who should the next time I come back to manhattan (1-2 weeks).

    Cool.  post it up, pm, whatever you feel is appropriate,
    Is Tallgrass better than Boulevard? Boulevard is delicious IMO.

    Depends what you like.  Tallgrass is a dark ale, similar to 1554 from New Belgium.  I'm not sure Boulevard has anything like it.
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: Kat Kid on April 10, 2008, 12:06:34 PM
    Whoa!  Young waks!  Take it easy bro.  The path to alcoholism is dangerous and loopy and it starts with one sip of a delightfully cold bottle of suds on a hot summer's day.  You should wait until you are up at State, then I'll show you the ropes.
    Will you be there next year? Remember, mom's going to pay you $500.

    Oh please lord yes.

    Well, I will kind of be there.  Will be student teaching in Junction or (outside chance) Eisenhower.
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: Chingon on April 10, 2008, 12:12:58 PM
    Anyone know much about the investment opportunities available for tallgrass?  what is a minimum buy?  what are projected returns etc.?

    Have heard d00d is looking for capital.  It would be a ridiculous investment for the small amount of $$ I have, but an awesome one.  And Awesome wins every time, especially in the financial markets!

    Don't know, but I can ask a few people who should the next time I come back to manhattan (1-2 weeks).

    Cool.  post it up, pm, whatever you feel is appropriate,
    Is Tallgrass better than Boulevard? Boulevard is delicious IMO.

    Depends what you like.  Tallgrass is a dark ale, similar to 1554 from New Belgium.  I'm not sure Boulevard has anything like it.

    Boulevard Lunar Ale was the shiznit.
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: Saulbadguy on April 10, 2008, 12:39:30 PM
    We are taking a tour of the Boulevard brewery in May.  I enjoy the new "Smokestack" series. Try the "Sixth glass" and the trippel ale.
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: pissclams on April 10, 2008, 01:47:06 PM
    We are taking a tour of the Boulevard brewery in May.  I enjoy the new "Smokestack" series. Try the "Sixth glass" and the trippel ale.
    I'm touring Boulevard in May also.  It's a fun tour and the tasting room is elite.
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: Kat Kid on April 10, 2008, 01:51:42 PM
    reservations necessary or just show up to brew-tou?
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: pissclams on April 10, 2008, 01:52:57 PM
    reservations necessary or just show up to brew-tou?
    ya, you got to reserve, but you can do it through their website.  they only tour on certain days/times because a lot of people wanna do it.  i think it costs $10 a head but you get a lot of beers at the end.
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: Saulbadguy on April 10, 2008, 01:53:22 PM
    We are taking a tour of the Boulevard brewery in May.  I enjoy the new "Smokestack" series. Try the "Sixth glass" and the trippel ale.
    I'm touring Boulevard in May also.  It's a fun tour and the tasting room is elite.
    WHAT DAY
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: Rick Daris on April 10, 2008, 01:57:00 PM
    when I did it two years ago it was free. You're suppose to call ahead an reserve but I bet if you just show up and say that you called ahead and reserved they won't say no.
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: pissclams on April 10, 2008, 01:59:50 PM
    We are taking a tour of the Boulevard brewery in May.  I enjoy the new "Smokestack" series. Try the "Sixth glass" and the trippel ale.
    I'm touring Boulevard in May also.  It's a fun tour and the tasting room is elite.
    WHAT DAY
    OMG MAY 16TH! WHAT ABOUT YOU, YOU CRAZY FRUITCAKE LIPS!
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: Saulbadguy on April 10, 2008, 02:06:09 PM
    We are taking a tour of the Boulevard brewery in May.  I enjoy the new "Smokestack" series. Try the "Sixth glass" and the trippel ale.
    I'm touring Boulevard in May also.  It's a fun tour and the tasting room is elite.
    WHAT DAY
    OMG MAY 16TH! WHAT ABOUT YOU, YOU CRAZY FRUITCAKE LIPS!
    17th. :(
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: steve dave on April 10, 2008, 02:10:27 PM
    'Clams stay late and Saul show up early.  You can "hi-five" on the way in/out and everyone in your group will be all, "WTF?" and you can just laugh.
    Title: Re: Open a mac 'n cheese restaurant?
    Post by: pissclams on April 10, 2008, 02:28:45 PM
    'Clams stay late and Saul show up early.  You can "hi-five" on the way in/out and everyone in your group will be all, "WTF?" and you can just laugh.
    not really gonna laugh, prolly just LMAO!   :lol:  :lol: