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Title: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: ~WabashRoll~ on March 09, 2008, 01:07:42 PM
Yesterday was obviously make or break, but the reality is we probably need at least one more in the conference tourney (regardless of what you might be hearing from GoPowertard).  Win two in KC and we may be looking at 6 or 7 seed.

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/bubble (http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/bubble)
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: lynchmb1029 on March 09, 2008, 01:24:50 PM
"They're in an OK position for a bid, but they'd do themselves well to pick up a couple wins in the Big 12 tourney."

They have us out??
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: cireksu on March 09, 2008, 01:32:06 PM
that's stupid.
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: blackman-era-front-rower on March 09, 2008, 01:33:32 PM
please tell me why everyone has oklahoma solidly in
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: ClayKat on March 09, 2008, 01:33:48 PM
3 teams in from the Big 12?  No way.  Minimum we'll get in is 5.  We're in for sure probably with Baylor.  Their "college basketball producer" is hardly an expert.
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: CatsNChiefs on March 09, 2008, 01:34:22 PM
They have KSU in unless I'm missing something.
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: ClayKat on March 09, 2008, 01:37:58 PM
They have KSU in unless I'm missing something.
No, they had 3 in. ku, Texas, and OU. "leading contenders" were us and Baylor.
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: CatsNChiefs on March 09, 2008, 01:39:47 PM
Uhhh that means in.

"Taking our one-bid leagues plus our "safe" teams and assuming VCU, Kent State, Davidson and South Alabama claim automatic bids, that would leave 14 spots up for grabs. There are 22 teams currently on our bubble list."

Seriously do they not teach reading in schools anymore.
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: ClayKat on March 09, 2008, 01:43:29 PM
Uhhh that means in.

"Taking our one-bid leagues plus our "safe" teams and assuming VCU, Kent State, Davidson and South Alabama claim automatic bids, that would leave 14 spots up for grabs. There are 22 teams currently on our bubble list."

Seriously do they not teach reading in schools anymore.
OMFG, nothing cracks me up more than so-called experts getting an exasperated tone when they are so wrong.  Did you just read what you wrote?  22 teams on the bubble list.  Guess what - we are one of 22 teams.  Guess "uhhhhh" they can have people be "in" and "on the bubble" in your parallel universe.
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: CatsNChiefs on March 09, 2008, 01:45:05 PM
You're kind of dumb.
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: ClayKat on March 09, 2008, 01:47:39 PM
You're kind of dumb.
LOL.  Just quit wasting people's time...
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: Pett on March 09, 2008, 01:49:22 PM
I dont listen to CBS sports anything anymore......since yesterday.

Seth Davis on POY:


"I think Michael Beasley is the best overall player, but doesn't mean as much to his team as Hansbrough does to UNC."



Makes no sense, without beasley we would be middle of Big XII (7th or 8th seed in tourney) and on the NIT bubble.


UNC is still a top 5 seed in the NCAA tourney without Hansbrough.
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: CatsNChiefs on March 09, 2008, 01:53:34 PM
You're kind of dumb.
LOL.  Just quit wasting people's time...

Recap:

14 spots up for grabs

KSU in the top 4

ClayKat thinks that means KSU is out

ClayKat thinks being a bubble team and making the tournament are mutually exclusive

ClayKat just googled mutually exclusive...





Did I miss anything?
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: ClayKat on March 09, 2008, 01:54:02 PM
I dont listen to CBS sports anything anymore......since yesterday.

Seth Davis on POY:


"I think Michael Beasley is the best overall player, but doesn't mean as much to his team as Hansbrough does to UNC."



Makes no sense, without beasley we would be middle of Big XII (7th or 8th seed in tourney) and on the NIT bubble.


UNC is still a top 5 seed in the NCAA tourney without Hansbrough.
QFT. Their "analysts" are terrible already and then they trot out a "producer" with this weak-ass bubble list and solidifies their lack of credibility.  FWIW, I got an email from Andy Glockner and Gottlieb switched his POY vote to Beasley.  One at a time...
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: ClayKat on March 09, 2008, 01:56:16 PM
They have KSU in unless I'm missing something.
Just.....stop....  He didn't have us "in".  Being "in" and being "on the bubble" are two different things.  We're not talking about ultimately being in, these lists are at a point in time.  I'm sorry, I can't help your BBIQ anymore than that.  Good luck to you.
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: ~WabashRoll~ on March 09, 2008, 01:56:57 PM
They have KSU in unless I'm missing something.

You're missing something.

Current projections:

Big 12 (3): Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: ksu_FAN on March 09, 2008, 01:58:19 PM
While its not a rock solid indicator, we are in 53 of 53 projected brackets on The Bracket Project (http://bracketproject.atspace.com/comparison.htm).  I feel pretty safe about our chances at this point.
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: sys on March 09, 2008, 02:00:13 PM
please come back rusty.   :'(
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: steve dave on March 09, 2008, 02:06:19 PM
please come back rusty.   :'(

QFT  :crybaby:
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: CatsNChiefs on March 09, 2008, 02:07:24 PM
They have KSU in unless I'm missing something.
Just.....stop....  He didn't have us "in".  Being "in" and being "on the bubble" are two different things.  We're not talking about ultimately being in, these lists are at a point in time.  I'm sorry, I can't help your BBIQ anymore than that.  Good luck to you.

Seriously, mutually exclusive they are not.  No one's "IN" until the brackets are announced, if you asked the CBS dude if KSU was in right now, he would say yes.  It's not a difficult concept.
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: cas on March 09, 2008, 02:10:42 PM
please tell me why everyone has oklahoma solidly in

That's a great question. I have no &@#%ing clue.
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: ksu_FAN on March 09, 2008, 02:14:49 PM
please tell me why everyone has oklahoma solidly in

That's a great question. I have no fracking clue.

Oklahoma is 6-7 vs the RPI Top 50, 10-9 vs the Top 100, has 3 Top 50 OOC wins, has the #10 SOS, and has an RPI of #25.  No BCS conference team has missed the dance in the last 9 years with an RPI of 37 or lower.  They are saftely in.
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: steve dave on March 09, 2008, 02:16:42 PM
please tell me why everyone has oklahoma solidly in

That's a great question. I have no fracking clue.

Oklahoma is 6-7 vs the RPI Top 50, 10-9 vs the Top 100, has 3 Top 50 OOC wins, has the #10 SOS, and has an RPI of #25.  No BCS conference team has missed the dance in the last 9 years with an RPI of 37 or lower.  They are saftely in.

Yeah, they are a lock.  We should beat A&M since they play at 8:30 the night before but crowd may very well be hostile for us given ku hate. 
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: cas on March 09, 2008, 02:18:01 PM
please tell me why everyone has oklahoma solidly in

That's a great question. I have no fracking clue.

Oklahoma is 6-7 vs the RPI Top 50, 10-9 vs the Top 100, has 3 Top 50 OOC wins, has the #10 SOS, and has an RPI of #25.  No BCS conference team has missed the dance in the last 9 years with an RPI of 37 or lower.  They are saftely in.

Yeah, they are a lock.  We should beat A&M since they play at 8:30 the night before but crowd may very well be hostile for us given ku hate. 

Go 'Pokes!!!
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: CatsNChiefs on March 09, 2008, 02:19:03 PM
What's the North vs. South record this year?
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: AzCat on March 09, 2008, 02:26:21 PM
please tell me why everyone has oklahoma solidly in

Easy: 21 D-I wins vs 19 for KSU; #24 RPI vs #44 for KSU.  And after the Big XII Tournament it's entirely likely that KSU and OU will have an equal number of Big XII wins ... and I wouldn't be surprised if OU had one more. 
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: doom on March 09, 2008, 03:19:29 PM
please tell me why everyone has oklahoma solidly in

Easy: 21 D-I wins vs 19 for KSU; #24 RPI vs #44 for KSU.  And after the Big XII Tournament it's entirely likely that KSU and OU will have an equal number of Big XII wins ... and I wouldn't be surprised if OU had one more. 

They were tired where we beat them at their place.
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: BoWinkle on March 09, 2008, 03:23:22 PM
The reality is the rest of the bubbles have stepped up and we have struggled barely beating the bottom feeders of the Bi 12 North.

We need a couple solid wins in the Big 12 tourney to solidify anyone out of our fan bases opinion.
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: fatty fat fat on March 09, 2008, 03:27:43 PM
The reality is the rest of the bubbles have stepped up and we have struggled barely beating the bottom feeders of the Bi 12 North.

We need a couple solid wins in the Big 12 tourney to solidify anyone out of our fan bases opinion.

Man, you'd think if the big 12's #2 seed is a 1/2 seed, the #3 seed would be a lock.

Oh well.
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: blackman-era-front-rower on March 09, 2008, 03:38:39 PM
Oklahoma is 6-7 vs the RPI Top 50, 10-9 vs the Top 100, has 3 Top 50 OOC wins, has the #10 SOS, and has an RPI of #25.  No BCS conference team has missed the dance in the last 9 years with an RPI of 37 or lower.  They are saftely in.
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ok... sure... now lay that side-by-side with our numbers... i think we're comprable or at least in the same ballpark (except maybe for the rpi) AND beat them at their place
 :cyclist:
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: KSUmistie on March 09, 2008, 03:38:53 PM
Okay lets forget the Big 12 tourney right now (we better win though). We would be in the NCAA tourney right now, we have had 2 years of 20 wins & 10 Big 12 wins. Also we finished 3rd in the Big 12 this year, which by the way is a tougher conference this year than last year. We also have a tougher SOS this year than what it was last year.

It would be a crime if they left us out again. Last year we were the first BCS conference team that had 20 wins, 10 conference wins, & finished 4th in the conference to be left out. Trust me it won't happen twice.
Title: Re: Don't count your chickens yet on the Big Dance. CBS still has us out.
Post by: BoWinkle on March 09, 2008, 03:50:52 PM
The reality is the rest of the bubbles have stepped up and we have struggled barely beating the bottom feeders of the Bi 12 North.

We need a couple solid wins in the Big 12 tourney to solidify anyone out of our fan bases opinion.

Man, you'd think if the big 12's #2 seed is a 1/2 seed, the #3 seed would be a lock.

Oh well.


I think we should be a lock.  I also know that the other Big 12 schools have better overall records, better non con wins and dont have a record for being screwed over. So I wouldnt be shocked and I wouldnt be betting on it.  Beasley should get us in when our play hasnt.