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Sports => Frank Martin's OOD sponsored by the "Angriest Fans in America" => Topic started by: fatty fat fat on March 08, 2008, 03:52:53 PM
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Bump this thread please.
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How can you miss an uncontested lay-up? Pullen has 13 points & playing real well, hopefully Martin sees the light at the end of the tunnel.
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Yeah he's been awful. Does he seriously do anything better Pullen?
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This thread is horrid. Really, by now we know what Clent brings to the table - he has started 100+ games for us. Obviously he is not as dynamic and athletic as Pullen and will not put up 20. He'll even miss an easy shot from time to time - but these have been going on for almost 4 complete seasons. If Pullen had the experience Stewart does he would play major minutes with Clent serving as his backup, but for now we gain experience in Clent, which is something we are severely lacking. We especially need it on the road.....
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Come on man, are you really throwing out that experience cliche bullcrap. In most cases it would apply, but not in this case. It wasn't Clent's experience that got us that 9 point lead, it was Pullen's 13 points.
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This thread is horrid. Really, by now we know what Clent brings to the table - he has started 100+ games for us. Obviously he is not as dynamic and athletic as Pullen and will not put up 20. He'll even miss an easy shot from time to time - but these have been going on for almost 4 complete seasons. If Pullen had the experience Stewart does he would play major minutes with Clent serving as his backup, but for now we gain experience in Clent, which is something we are severely lacking. We especially need it on the road.....
I don't think anyone cares if he's dynamic, athletic or misses an easy shot...I WANT HIM TO QUIT TURNING THE FRACKING BALL OVER!!!
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In the context of this game, you can argue that Pullen needs to be on the floor - but my main argument is that he does not need to be a starter this season.....
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Good lord, awful.
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Why is he so bad? Turn overs and Airballs!
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I am done defending Stew. 2 turnovers in the final 5 minutes, then he is dribbling around with us up 69-66 when he should be getting the ball to Beasley.
11 for 47 since he came back to the team.
This is a senior and a freaking 4 yr starter. Thank god for Jacob Pullen.
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We only had eleven TO's, but it seemed like Clent had 12 on his own.
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Jake is a better player, but the Clent hate is stupid.
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Jake is a better player, but the Clent hate is stupid.
Not it's not. He's destroying our team, and is just pathetic.
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Jake is a better player, but the Clent hate is stupid.
Not it's not. He's destroying our team, and is just pathetic.
I'll just say you are great at youtube videos.
Jake should be playing more minutes and he had a great game today, but Clent is not going away. I was even saying Jake needed to play more minutes.
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Jake is a better player, but the Clent hate is stupid.
Not it's not. He's destroying our team, and is just pathetic.
I'll just say you are great at youtube videos.
Jake should be playing more minutes and he had a great game today, but Clent is not going away. I was even saying Jake needed to play more minutes.
You're just mad your clent love is making you look terrible.
I understand, it happens to me sometimes (my walker love, pasco love back in the day...etc...)
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Yeah, no excuses.
He hasn't had any injuries, wait...
He hasn't had any life changing events, wait...
He's not Mike freaking Beasley here, you're just a bunch of spoiled fans. Next year the hate fest for the whole team will be epic.
The most ironic aspect of this hate fest is many were praising Clent (among others) getting his stroke back as a primary reason for our early BIG 12 run. Now after some hardships he's struggling with his stroke again, KSU needs that stroke back to win any game against top 25 competition. So put your vagina's away, and leave the hyperbole to the ku fans.
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Frank Martin claimed on 810 the other day that it was Clent's superior defensive skills and leadership that kept him above Jacob. Petro tried to prop up JP, but Frank would have none of it. Quite frankly I do not understand Frank's stubborness on this point. It is clear to everyone but him that this team operates better with JP on the floor. And oh, by the way, more points, more assists and fewer turnovers is generally a good thing. :confused:
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Yeah, no excuses.
He hasn't had any injuries, wait...
He hasn't had any life changing events, wait...
Those are all excuses.
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And guarnteed Friday night Stewart will be starting and Jake won't get in till the 13 minute mark like today. Just blows my mind.
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That alley-oop dunk when Stewart fouled was dumb! Yes it was a gay little touch foul, but as a Senior leader you should know better than that, if the guy is that close to the basket, don't touch him!
I am a Stewart fan, but he has been sucking really bad. He has been missing lay-ups & short range running jumpers. We need him to hit some shots. Pullen needs to start real bad over Stewart.
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Yeah, no excuses.
He hasn't had any injuries, wait...
He hasn't had any life changing events, wait...
Those are all excuses.
Go ahead and look up, the point is cruising 20,000 feet above your head.
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Frank Martin claimed on 810 the other day that it was Clent's superior defensive skills and leadership that kept him above Jacob. Petro tried to prop up JP, but Frank would have none of it. Quite frankly I do not understand Frank's stubborness on this point. It is clear to everyone but him that this team operates better with JP on the floor. And oh, by the way, more points, more assists and fewer turnovers is generally a good thing. :confused:
No one is saying Jake isn't a better player and shouldn't be playing 30 minutes. But Clent is going to play his 30 minutes too, so the crap gets old.
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I don't think it's being unreasonable to say Clent was really bad out there today. Although he did have 4 assists.
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It is obvious that most of you are young. We just locked up our first NCAA tournament appearance in 12 years and all some of you can do is bitch about Clent.
Who the f cares!
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It is obvious that most of you are young. We just locked up our first NCAA tournament appearance in 12 years and all some of you can do is bitch about Clent.
Who the f cares!
Because the Clent lovers have no problem bashing Walker.
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As much as I hate to say it our team will benefit from him being gone next year. He was probably better as a freshman.
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It is obvious that most of you are young. We just locked up our first NCAA tournament appearance in 12 years and all some of you can do is bitch about Clent.
Who the f cares!
Because the Clent lovers have no problem bashing Walker.
Unfounded hate is the worst kind.
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Yeah, no excuses.
He hasn't had any injuries, wait...
He hasn't had any life changing events, wait...
He's not Mike freaking Beasley here, you're just a bunch of spoiled fans. Next year the hate fest for the whole team will be epic.
The most ironic aspect of this hate fest is many were praising Clent (among others) getting his stroke back as a primary reason for our early BIG 12 run. Now after some hardships he's struggling with his stroke again, KSU needs that stroke back to win any game against top 25 competition. So put your vagina's away, and leave the hyperbole to the ku fans.
At a minimum he can just not turn the ball over. At a minimum. As a &@#%ing senior, the minimum thing he could do, no matter if his shot is off or if he has a bad hammy or if his mom passed away is just not turn it over.
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It is obvious that most of you are young. We just locked up our first NCAA tournament appearance in 12 years and all some of you can do is bitch about Clent.
Who the f cares!
Because the Clent lovers have no problem bashing Walker.
I have been a Walker supporter all year. The only player I really bash is Fred Brown and maybe Gilbert. Anderson's miss right by the basket was unexcusable as well. But so was Clent's missed lay-up. No doubt Jake was the best guard on the floor today, but liking Jake doesn't mean hating Clent to me.
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Bump this thread please.
He gave us the lead and we never looked back. He was alright today.
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Jake was a better player a month ago and 2 months ago. For my take, this is not the issue.
The issue is Stew has been playing mentally like "bad Gilbert".... meening when Gilbert looks clueless on the court.
I don't like the fact his shooting has been awful of late, but his mental miscues make him look like a soph and not a 4 yr starter. To me, it is bad when Darren Kent has more of idea what to do it crunch time then Stew.
I don't hate Clent. I just miss "Steady Stew" but man it is frustrating that he already graduated and we are left with this version.
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It is obvious that most of you are young. We just locked up our first NCAA tournament appearance in 12 years and all some of you can do is bitch about Clent.
Who the f cares!
Because the Clent lovers have no problem bashing Walker.
Four fouls, forcing shots, goal tending.. vs..
turnovers, bad shots..
I think it's safe to say that play was sloppy from those who we expected better from. Happens, but Stewart is not the reason we lost games on the road, or for the closeness of this game. There are enough other issues, but I think you're just looking to bash Clent so you can impress Kat Kid so he'll give you a ride to KC. IMO.
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but I think you're just looking to bash Clent so you can impress Kat Kid so he'll give you a ride to KC. IMO.
LOL!
:)
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You know what, &@#% you guys.
Bashing our own players is just &@#%ing stupid.
Its like bashing the girls team; they are all K-Staters just like us, you should want them to succeed regardless.
Its one thing to be critical, but this is out of hand and out of line.
I hope some of you injest fiberglass. :angry:
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You know what, frack you guys.
Bashing our own players is just fracking stupid.
Its like bashing the girls team; they are all K-Staters just like us, you should want them to succeed regardless.
Its one thing to be critical, but this is out of hand and out of line.
I hope some of you injest fiberglass. :angry:
yea, if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all.
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I actually am bashing Frank for not recognizing the fact that this team is much more efficient at both ends of the court with Pullen running the show. There is no denying that Jake's numbers are substantially better than Clent's. That isn't bashing, that's a fact.
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Yeah he's been awful. Does he seriously do anything better Pullen?
defense ???? maybe