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Title: I just watched 2001: A Space Oddysey...WTF!?
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on March 02, 2008, 02:42:34 AM
Seriously.

Uh...What?  WTF!?

I feel like I should have smoked or dropped acid before watching that movie.  There's not really any plot..And I kept waiting for the monkeys in the beginning to tie in somehow..Never really explains the whole monolith thing..then the floating in space fetus thing..and I'm just really, really confused.
Title: Re: I just watched 2001: A Space Oddysey...WTF!?
Post by: pissclams on March 02, 2008, 04:36:59 PM
damn i love that movie  :bong:
Title: Re: I just watched 2001: A Space Oddysey...WTF!?
Post by: Kat Kid on March 02, 2008, 04:46:34 PM
Quote from: WildCatzPhreak on March 02, 2008, 02:42:34 AM
Seriously.

Uh...What?  WTF!?

I feel like I should have smoked or dropped acid before watching that movie.  There's not really any plot..And I kept waiting for the monkeys in the beginning to tie in somehow..Never really explains the whole monolith thing..then the floating in space fetus thing..and I'm just really, really confused.

metaphor, allegory.

seek a dictionary immediately.
Title: Re: I just watched 2001: A Space Oddysey...WTF!?
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on March 02, 2008, 05:09:32 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 02, 2008, 04:46:34 PM
Quote from: WildCatzPhreak on March 02, 2008, 02:42:34 AM
Seriously.

Uh...What?  WTF!?

I feel like I should have smoked or dropped acid before watching that movie.  There's not really any plot..And I kept waiting for the monkeys in the beginning to tie in somehow..Never really explains the whole monolith thing..then the floating in space fetus thing..and I'm just really, really confused.

metaphor, allegory.

seek a dictionary immediately.
I went to wikipedia and got the answers.

According to the books written afterwards, it's actually not a metaphor..He actually got turned into "an energy being" that can take the form of "a space baby."  And he fuses with monoliths.  And Jupiter turns into a giant sun.  And HAL gets revived.  And then he fuses with the space baby.

The author must have been on some really, really awesome crap.
Title: Re: I just watched 2001: A Space Oddysey...WTF!?
Post by: kstate16 on March 02, 2008, 05:23:51 PM
stanley kubrik is the f*cking man.
Title: Re: I just watched 2001: A Space Oddysey...WTF!?
Post by: Kat Kid on March 02, 2008, 06:48:16 PM
Quote from: WildCatzPhreak on March 02, 2008, 05:09:32 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 02, 2008, 04:46:34 PM
Quote from: WildCatzPhreak on March 02, 2008, 02:42:34 AM
Seriously.

Uh...What?  WTF!?

I feel like I should have smoked or dropped acid before watching that movie.  There's not really any plot..And I kept waiting for the monkeys in the beginning to tie in somehow..Never really explains the whole monolith thing..then the floating in space fetus thing..and I'm just really, really confused.

metaphor, allegory.

seek a dictionary immediately.
I went to wikipedia and got the answers.

According to the books written afterwards, it's actually not a metaphor..He actually got turned into "an energy being" that can take the form of "a space baby."  And he fuses with monoliths.  And Jupiter turns into a giant sun.  And HAL gets revived.  And then he fuses with the space baby.

The author must have been on some really, really awesome crap.

Not sure the rest were Stanley kubrik approved but the first movie pretty much stands alone in terms of quality.  I don't really view it in the context of the other three because I haven't seen them but they seem awful.
Title: Re: I just watched 2001: A Space Oddysey...WTF!?
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on March 02, 2008, 08:49:32 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 02, 2008, 06:48:16 PM
Quote from: WildCatzPhreak on March 02, 2008, 05:09:32 PM
Quote from: Kat Kid on March 02, 2008, 04:46:34 PM
Quote from: WildCatzPhreak on March 02, 2008, 02:42:34 AM
Seriously.

Uh...What?  WTF!?

I feel like I should have smoked or dropped acid before watching that movie.  There's not really any plot..And I kept waiting for the monkeys in the beginning to tie in somehow..Never really explains the whole monolith thing..then the floating in space fetus thing..and I'm just really, really confused.

metaphor, allegory.

seek a dictionary immediately.
I went to wikipedia and got the answers.

According to the books written afterwards, it's actually not a metaphor..He actually got turned into "an energy being" that can take the form of "a space baby."  And he fuses with monoliths.  And Jupiter turns into a giant sun.  And HAL gets revived.  And then he fuses with the space baby.

The author must have been on some really, really awesome crap.

Not sure the rest were Stanley kubrik approved but the first movie pretty much stands alone in terms of quality.  I don't really view it in the context of the other three because I haven't seen them but they seem awful.
There's actually three books written after this movie takes place, all written by Stanley kubrik, that's what the info on the pedia is about.  Only one of those books was made into a movie.  And yes, they do seem awful.

But I guess the "message" from the original is supposed to be that aliens affected the development of earth.  It's just that after the original, he takes the storyline on a crazy tangent that involves jupiter imploding into a sun, HAL and the main character fusing, monoliths trying to destroy earth, etc etc etc..Blech.

Better news!  Tom Hanks wants to make those books into movies.
Title: Re: I just watched 2001: A Space Oddysey...WTF!?
Post by: PCR on March 02, 2008, 09:36:59 PM
Read the original 2001 book.  It deals with Saturn rather than Jupiter, but the story was changed for some reason for the movie.  Clarke was involved in the production of the movie. 

2010 stars the late Roy Scheider returning to Jupiter aboard a Russian ship.  It deals a lot with the cold war, as it was made in the mid 80s. 

2061 is about trying to land on Halley's Comet.  I read it but don't remember much about it. 

Anyway the movie is an absolute masterpiece.  It was a huge step forward in special effects.  It's a movie that's open to interpretation.  I think Clarke is trying to take a view of the advancement of the human race and takes the point of view that there were great leaps forward, rather than things happening gradually.  Maybe the monolith represents our perpetual desire to reach the next level of consciousness.  HAL represents what will be our next level--artificial intelligence.  We're starting to see this happen already.  Clarke also predicted the use of satellites before Sputnik. 
Title: Re: I just watched 2001: A Space Oddysey...WTF!?
Post by: cyclist on March 02, 2008, 10:09:38 PM
Take IBM and go one letter towards the front of the alphabet and you get HAL.

Coincidence ?

:confused:     :confused:     :confused:     :confused:
Title: Re: I just watched 2001: A Space Oddysey...WTF!?
Post by: Kat Kid on March 02, 2008, 11:11:11 PM
Quote from: cyclist on March 02, 2008, 10:09:38 PM
Take IBM and go one letter towards the front of the alphabet and you get HAL.

Coincidence ?

:confused:     :confused:     :confused:     :confused:

 :runaway:
CONSPIRACY!
 :runaway:
Title: Re: I just watched 2001: A Space Oddysey...WTF!?
Post by: bfred on March 03, 2008, 02:23:07 AM
You gain a whole new perspective if you smoke first. amazing movie.
Title: Re: I just watched 2001: A Space Oddysey...WTF!?
Post by: jeffy on March 03, 2008, 11:46:21 AM
Quote from: WildCatzPhreak on March 02, 2008, 02:42:34 AM
Seriously.

Uh...What?  WTF!?

I feel like I should have smoked or dropped acid before watching that movie.  There's not really any plot..And I kept waiting for the monkeys in the beginning to tie in somehow..Never really explains the whole monolith thing..then the floating in space fetus thing..and I'm just really, really confused.

Agreed.

Long. Boring.