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Title: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: Real_Fan on December 21, 2007, 07:28:05 PM
1. Texas (7)
2. Oklahoma (11)
3. Texas A&M (12)
4. Colorado (18)
5. Oklahoma State (20)
6. K-State (24)  :runaway:
7. Missouri (30)
8. Nebraska (36)
9. Texas Tech (41)
10 Kansas (47)  :lol:
11. Baylor (52)
12. Iowa State (63)  :eek:

When was the last time we had a top 25 class? Are there any late additions that could drive it up into the top 20.




Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: fatty fat fat on December 21, 2007, 07:28:44 PM
let's see where we stand on feb. 2nd. It won't last.
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: Real_Fan on December 21, 2007, 07:30:47 PM
Who decommits?
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: cireksu on December 21, 2007, 07:37:15 PM
Calvin and Valentine will help quite a bit.

 :hope:
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: ksuno1stunner on December 21, 2007, 08:43:34 PM
kuli would help too.
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: Luke-KSU on December 21, 2007, 09:42:57 PM
i am starting to like seeing kansas down at the bottom for a change. :ksu:
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: waks on December 21, 2007, 10:28:05 PM
1. Texas (7)
2. Oklahoma (11)
3. Texas A&M (12)
4. Colorado (18)
5. Oklahoma State (20)
6. K-State (24)  :runaway:
7. Missouri (30)
8. Nebraska (36)
9. Texas Tech (41)
10 Kansas (47)  :lol:
11. Baylor (52)
12. Iowa State (63)  :eek:

When was the last time we had a top 25 class? Are there any late additions that could drive it up into the top 20.





kuli, Calvin, Bedford, Vakalahi, Harold, Thomas and Valentine are all still possibilities. Two of those guys would probably move us past OSU. A couple more might push us past Colorado IMO.
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: Bullfn33 on December 21, 2007, 11:59:22 PM
After other classes fill out, KSU won't stay in the top 25 with the current class.  KSU needs to get a couple more studs to do that but there's still a good possibility of that happening, we'll see.
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: cireksu on December 22, 2007, 12:06:55 AM
it probably won't happen but I think we'll get calvin, and valentine is 50/50.  those are the last 2 high rated guys we'll get.  we'll probably finish the class with a bunch of 2 stars.
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: Bullfn33 on December 22, 2007, 12:09:41 AM
it probably won't happen but I think we'll get calvin, and valentine is 50/50.  those are the last 2 high rated guys we'll get.  we'll probably finish the class with a bunch of 2 stars.

I heard Harold was high on KSU with Illinois making a big push.  Would be nice to get a high school D-Lineman.
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: waks on December 22, 2007, 09:22:29 AM
it probably won't happen but I think we'll get calvin, and valentine is 50/50.  those are the last 2 high rated guys we'll get.  we'll probably finish the class with a bunch of 2 stars.
We're in kuli's top two. We're in Daniel Thomas's top 2 and OU wants him at safety, we want him at RB. We lead for Calvin. It's between us and USF for Bedford and Vakalahi likes us a whole lot. None of them are really that far out of the picture. It's hard for me to imagine us getting kuli though..
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: doom on December 22, 2007, 09:31:29 AM
Who's kuli's other top school, Oregon or Oklahoma?
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: waks on December 22, 2007, 09:36:49 AM
Who's kuli's other top school, Oregon or Oklahoma?
Oklahoma. He visited Oregon State so I guess it might be a top 3...GPC says Valentine has committed to us, fwiw.
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: GoodForAnother on December 22, 2007, 01:44:46 PM
We haven't had a class this good since 2003!

Yeah!

Yeah.

Yeah...

 :-[
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: BMWJhawk on December 22, 2007, 02:23:47 PM
1. Texas (7)
2. Oklahoma (11)
3. Texas A&M (12)
4. Colorado (18)
5. Oklahoma State (20)
6. K-State (24)  :runaway:
7. Missouri (30)
8. Nebraska (36)
9. Texas Tech (41)
10 Kansas (47)  :lol:
11. Baylor (52)
12. Iowa State (63)  :eek:

When was the last time we had a top 25 class? Are there any late additions that could drive it up into the top 20.



Kansas moved up to #41.  IMHO, Kansas has a better overall recruiting class.  Out of your 23 commitments, there's a total of 20 BCS offers, and 7 of those are for one player (Chris Harper).  8 of your recruits have one offer and that was to K-State.  The rest of your class is filled with Juco's. 

Out of Kansas' 16 commitments, 15 are 3-star high school prospects and 1 is a 4-star Juco offensive tackle.  Almost every single commitment is nationally ranked at their position.  Actually, the only commitment that isn't nationally ranked is Sean Ransburg, and he was the best player for a Harrisonville (MO) team that won another state championship this season.

Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: ksuno1stunner on December 22, 2007, 02:26:34 PM
1. Texas (7)
2. Oklahoma (11)
3. Texas A&M (12)
4. Colorado (18)
5. Oklahoma State (20)
6. K-State (24)  :runaway:
7. Missouri (30)
8. Nebraska (36)
9. Texas Tech (41)
10 Kansas (47)  :lol:
11. Baylor (52)
12. Iowa State (63)  :eek:

When was the last time we had a top 25 class? Are there any late additions that could drive it up into the top 20.



Kansas moved up to #41.  IMHO, Kansas has a better overall recruiting class.  Out of your 23 commitments, there's a total of 20 BCS offers, and 7 of those are for one player (Chris Harper).  8 of your recruits have one offer and that was to K-State.  The rest of your class is filled with Juco's. 

Out of Kansas' 16 commitments, 15 are 3-star high school prospects and 1 is a 4-star Juco offensive tackle.  Almost every single commitment is nationally ranked at their position.  Actually, the only commitment that isn't nationally ranked is Sean Ransburg, and he was the best player for a Harrisonville (MO) team that won another state championship this season.



Numbers don't lie.  I expect it to increase with our silent commits, Smith, kuli, Calvin, Harold, and Rice.
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: BMWJhawk on December 22, 2007, 02:34:44 PM
1. Texas (7)
2. Oklahoma (11)
3. Texas A&M (12)
4. Colorado (18)
5. Oklahoma State (20)
6. K-State (24)  :runaway:
7. Missouri (30)
8. Nebraska (36)
9. Texas Tech (41)
10 Kansas (47)  :lol:
11. Baylor (52)
12. Iowa State (63)  :eek:

When was the last time we had a top 25 class? Are there any late additions that could drive it up into the top 20.



Kansas moved up to #41.  IMHO, Kansas has a better overall recruiting class.  Out of your 23 commitments, there's a total of 20 BCS offers, and 7 of those are for one player (Chris Harper).  8 of your recruits have one offer and that was to K-State.  The rest of your class is filled with Juco's. 

Out of Kansas' 16 commitments, 15 are 3-star high school prospects and 1 is a 4-star Juco offensive tackle.  Almost every single commitment is nationally ranked at their position.  Actually, the only commitment that isn't nationally ranked is Sean Ransburg, and he was the best player for a Harrisonville (MO) team that won another state championship this season.



Numbers don't lie.  I expect it to increase with our silent commits, Smith, kuli, Calvin, Harold, and Rice.


Well when Jeremy Crabtree is bumping up guys like Brayden Burris to a 3-star, the numbers can be deceiving.  Your class is ranked higher because you've got more total commitments and somehow two of your Juco recruits were bumped up to 4-star when there's only 3 other BCS offers between the two of them. 

Kansas' recruiting class is higher quality and only one of our commitments is a Juco (6'7 310 lb 4-star offensive tackle).  Like I said, 14 of the 15 high school commitments are nationally ranked.  Kansas is building depth and establishing pipelines in the state of Texas while K-State is scouring the Juco ranks and building for the short-term. 
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: catzacker on December 22, 2007, 02:36:23 PM
1. Texas (7)
2. Oklahoma (11)
3. Texas A&M (12)
4. Colorado (18)
5. Oklahoma State (20)
6. K-State (24)  :runaway:
7. Missouri (30)
8. Nebraska (36)
9. Texas Tech (41)
10 Kansas (47)  :lol:
11. Baylor (52)
12. Iowa State (63)  :eek:

When was the last time we had a top 25 class? Are there any late additions that could drive it up into the top 20.



Kansas moved up to #41.  IMHO, Kansas has a better overall recruiting class.  Out of your 23 commitments, there's a total of 20 BCS offers, and 7 of those are for one player (Chris Harper).  8 of your recruits have one offer and that was to K-State.  The rest of your class is filled with Juco's. 

Out of Kansas' 16 commitments, 15 are 3-star high school prospects and 1 is a 4-star Juco offensive tackle.  Almost every single commitment is nationally ranked at their position.  Actually, the only commitment that isn't nationally ranked is Sean Ransburg, and he was the best player for a Harrisonville (MO) team that won another state championship this season.



Numbers don't lie.  I expect it to increase with our silent commits, Smith, kuli, Calvin, Harold, and Rice.


Well when Jeremy Crabtree is bumping up guys like Brayden Burris to a 3-star, the numbers can be deceiving.  Your class is ranked higher because you've got more total commitments and somehow two of your Juco recruits were bumped up to 4-star when there's only 3 other BCS offers between the two of them. 

Kansas' recruiting class is higher quality and only one of our commitments is a Juco (6'7 310 lb 4-star offensive tackle).  Like I said, 14 of the 15 high school commitments are nationally ranked.  Kansas is building depth and establishing pipelines in the state of Texas while K-State is scouring the Juco ranks and building for the short-term. 

Yes.  Crabtree is in our back pocket.  This has been clearly established by the phog. 
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: ksuno1stunner on December 22, 2007, 02:37:19 PM
1. Texas (7)
2. Oklahoma (11)
3. Texas A&M (12)
4. Colorado (18)
5. Oklahoma State (20)
6. K-State (24)  :runaway:
7. Missouri (30)
8. Nebraska (36)
9. Texas Tech (41)
10 Kansas (47)  :lol:
11. Baylor (52)
12. Iowa State (63)  :eek:

When was the last time we had a top 25 class? Are there any late additions that could drive it up into the top 20.



Kansas moved up to #41.  IMHO, Kansas has a better overall recruiting class.  Out of your 23 commitments, there's a total of 20 BCS offers, and 7 of those are for one player (Chris Harper).  8 of your recruits have one offer and that was to K-State.  The rest of your class is filled with Juco's. 

Out of Kansas' 16 commitments, 15 are 3-star high school prospects and 1 is a 4-star Juco offensive tackle.  Almost every single commitment is nationally ranked at their position.  Actually, the only commitment that isn't nationally ranked is Sean Ransburg, and he was the best player for a Harrisonville (MO) team that won another state championship this season.



Numbers don't lie.  I expect it to increase with our silent commits, Smith, kuli, Calvin, Harold, and Rice.


Well when Jeremy Crabtree is bumping up guys like Brayden Burris to a 3-star, the numbers can be deceiving.  Your class is ranked higher because you've got more total commitments and somehow two of your Juco recruits were bumped up to 4-star when there's only 3 other BCS offers between the two of them. 

Kansas' recruiting class is higher quality and only one of our commitments is a Juco (6'7 310 lb 4-star offensive tackle).  Like I said, 14 of the 15 high school commitments are nationally ranked.  Kansas is building depth and establishing pipelines in the state of Texas while K-State is scouring the Juco ranks and building for the short-term. 

Your 4 star was bumped up from 3 when he committed.
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: cireksu on December 22, 2007, 02:37:43 PM
we have immediate needs to fill, and appear to be filling them, how is that bad for the program?

you are stupid, and the biggest message board homer i've ever come across.
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: stormnut on December 22, 2007, 02:38:43 PM
1. Texas (7)
2. Oklahoma (11)
3. Texas A&M (12)
4. Colorado (18)
5. Oklahoma State (20)
6. K-State (24)  :runaway:
7. Missouri (30)
8. Nebraska (36)
9. Texas Tech (41)
10 Kansas (47)  :lol:
11. Baylor (52)
12. Iowa State (63)  :eek:

When was the last time we had a top 25 class? Are there any late additions that could drive it up into the top 20.



Kansas moved up to #41.  IMHO, Kansas has a better overall recruiting class.  Out of your 23 commitments, there's a total of 20 BCS offers, and 7 of those are for one player (Chris Harper).  8 of your recruits have one offer and that was to K-State.  The rest of your class is filled with Juco's. 

Out of Kansas' 16 commitments, 15 are 3-star high school prospects and 1 is a 4-star Juco offensive tackle.  Almost every single commitment is nationally ranked at their position.  Actually, the only commitment that isn't nationally ranked is Sean Ransburg, and he was the best player for a Harrisonville (MO) team that won another state championship this season.



Numbers don't lie.  I expect it to increase with our silent commits, Smith, kuli, Calvin, Harold, and Rice.


Well when Jeremy Crabtree is bumping up guys like Brayden Burris to a 3-star, the numbers can be deceiving.  Your class is ranked higher because you've got more total commitments and somehow two of your Juco recruits were bumped up to 4-star when there's only 3 other BCS offers between the two of them. 

Kansas' recruiting class is higher quality and only one of our commitments is a Juco (6'7 310 lb 4-star offensive tackle).  Like I said, 14 of the 15 high school commitments are nationally ranked.  Kansas is building depth and establishing pipelines in the state of Texas while K-State is scouring the Juco ranks and building for the short-term. 

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=52180 (http://Ryan Murphy) :twobirds:
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: BMWJhawk on December 22, 2007, 02:42:56 PM
To put it in perspective, out of our 16 commitments, there are 33 other BCS offers.  K-State's class has 20. 
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: catzacker on December 22, 2007, 02:46:49 PM
To put it in perspective, out of our 16 commitments, there are 33 other BCS offers.  K-State's class has 20. 

What we need is some kind of ranking system established by an objective third party that gives rankings or stars to each individual player and then collectively counts those average rankings to form some sort of ranking for each team.  After we get that then we should compare ku and KSU's recruiting class.
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: cireksu on December 22, 2007, 03:25:47 PM
To put it in perspective, out of our 16 commitments, there are 33 other BCS offers.  K-State's class has 20. 

one would think ku is dominating us in the recruiting ranks by 20 or so spots.
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: kstate16 on December 22, 2007, 04:19:09 PM
who f*cking cares.  they're all gonna decommit now that our best recruiter (franklin) is gone.
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on December 22, 2007, 04:19:38 PM
To put it in perspective, out of our 16 commitments, there are 33 other BCS offers.  K-State's class has 20. 

What we need is some kind of ranking system established by an objective third party that gives rankings or stars to each individual player and then collectively counts those average rankings to form some sort of ranking for each team.  After we get that then we should compare ku and KSU's recruiting class.

If only some type of recruiting service would fill this void.  I'm not hopeful of that ever happening.  There's just no money in it.

Until then we will have to rely on who posts the most on their rivals message board to establish superiority.
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 22, 2007, 06:21:59 PM
There's our hyper-defensive Ben again.
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: ednksu on December 23, 2007, 02:36:51 AM
To put it in perspective, out of our 16 commitments, there are 33 other BCS offers.  K-State's class has 20. 

Oregon's whole offensive line had 3 scholie offers....3 total.  that was a pretty good line.

offers dont mean a whole lot to me, just like *
Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: JTKSU on December 24, 2007, 06:01:40 PM
who f*cking cares.  they're all gonna decommit now that our best recruiter (franklin) is gone.

The weird thing is Franklin was our big shot recruiter, but he only signed 5 guys.  (Four now that Harper is out.)  Most of the guys Franklin was in charge of were the big profile guys.  (ie Brown, Pryor, etc.)  Also, of the four guys Franklin did reel in, 2 were 2*s, and 2 were 3*s.    So, losing him probably wont hurt us too bad this year.  (Minus Harper of course.)



Title: Re: Rivals Recruiting Class Rankings... Big 12
Post by: Bookcat on December 26, 2007, 09:54:48 PM
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The rest of your class is filled with Juco's. 

Great! and....
Since we're not on probation by the NCAA and weren't handed a JUCO's scholarship restriction like The University of Kansas.....then, what the hell, right? :lol: