WTF, DICKHEAD?
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Have a usb memory stick?
http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable
I don't know IT stuff.
Did they disable your sound card?
:lick:
Did they tell you they uninstalled firefox, or did they just do it and not tell you?
Also, you ought to try and find a copy of the My Private Folder module. It really freaks them out.What's that mean?
She sounds like a typical IT cvnt. Reinstall and don't let her touch your computer again w/o you standing there.Did they disable your sound card?
:lick:
Did they tell you they uninstalled firefox, or did they just do it and not tell you?
They just did it w/o telling me.
She said we "need to see what programs you need", but they went ahead and deleted firefox and mp3tag. Kept Winamp and last.fm, though.
???
We allow users to have firefox but we don't support it. If they have problems with it we won't help them with it.Also, you ought to try and find a copy of the My Private Folder module. It really freaks them out.What's that mean?
I had to get rid of FF about 6 months ago because IT was scanning machines for illegal software. No biggie, after a while you get used to using crappity IE again.
No one has told me what programs are illegal.C:\Documents and Settings\K-rus's user name\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\somethingsomething.default\
I lost work related bookmarks!!!
srlsly, though - LOL @ deleting firefox and keeping last.fm.
Rusty you should try to install the new IE, it's got tabs and stuff and I bet they wouldn't find it.Lose all the cool extensions. :curse:
Forgot to say - make sure hidden files is turned off. It's a hidden folder. (application data)
Rusty you should try to install the new IE, it's got tabs and stuff and I bet they wouldn't find it.
Forgot to say - make sure hidden files is turned off. It's a hidden folder. (application data)
IIRC that folder should stay there even if FF is uninstalled.
Do a search for "bookmark" after you turn off hidden files (my computer, tools, folder options, view, show hidden files and folders)
Also, you ought to try and find a copy of the My Private Folder module. It really freaks them out.What's that mean?
I had to get rid of FF about 6 months ago because IT was scanning machines for illegal software. No biggie, after a while you get used to using crappity IE again.
Rusty you should try to install the new IE, it's got tabs and stuff and I bet they wouldn't find it.
They actually put a shortcut on the desktop for me. I need an undo close tab, dammit!Forgot to say - make sure hidden files is turned off. It's a hidden folder. (application data)
IIRC that folder should stay there even if FF is uninstalled.
Do a search for "bookmark" after you turn off hidden files (my computer, tools, folder options, view, show hidden files and folders)
found them, hooray.
WORK SITES. :flush:
I think at my company they mean the same thing. :blindfold: But you know what I meant, unapproved. :flush:Also, you ought to try and find a copy of the My Private Folder module. It really freaks them out.What's that mean?
I had to get rid of FF about 6 months ago because IT was scanning machines for illegal software. No biggie, after a while you get used to using crappity IE again.
Do you mean unapproved or illegal?
Rusty you should try to install the new IE, it's got tabs and stuff and I bet they wouldn't find it.
They actually put a shortcut on the desktop for me. I need an undo close tab, dammit!Forgot to say - make sure hidden files is turned off. It's a hidden folder. (application data)
IIRC that folder should stay there even if FF is uninstalled.
Do a search for "bookmark" after you turn off hidden files (my computer, tools, folder options, view, show hidden files and folders)
found them, hooray.
WORK SITES. :flush:
IE7 :flush:
UPPITY IT BITCHES :flush:
Well, kind of in house, kind of contracted.
This was general maintenance they were doing on all computers. I've never had a problem with my computer, besides finding sound card drivers.
Rusty you should try to install the new IE, it's got tabs and stuff and I bet they wouldn't find it.
They actually put a shortcut on the desktop for me. I need an undo close tab, dammit!Forgot to say - make sure hidden files is turned off. It's a hidden folder. (application data)
IIRC that folder should stay there even if FF is uninstalled.
Do a search for "bookmark" after you turn off hidden files (my computer, tools, folder options, view, show hidden files and folders)
found them, hooray.
WORK SITES. :flush:
IE7 :flush:
UPPITY IT BITCHES :flush:
The biggest problem is that Firefox isn't integrated into Windows (obviously). With IE, I can look out tabs in the internet options section. Thus allowing me to have the users history, if there is ever a problem.
I have no problem with deleting Firefox off your machine, Rusty. As an admin, I don't have time to mess with machines that aren't working as intended. If something is wrong and I can't fix it in 30 minutes, it gets re-imaged and all your data goes with it. This is why everyone is warned before hand to use their home drive (network share).
I'm not in the position to say that sort of thing now (different job, different position, lot larger company too) -- so lucky you.
Obviously the rules can be bent with smaller networks, but anything with more than 30 users and I'd be locking everything down. No IM, no streaming music or last.fm, no stupid social site access. There are ways around this though, obviously I get around this everyday where I work now.
Bottom line--I'm a mean network admin, but I run a clean system and you can't complain about slowness regarding the network either. :thumbsup:
IT guys like to feel important and be "heard." Or so it seems to me.
I really don't have a problem with removing last.fm at all.
The other programs I use shouldn't affect network performance.
Does IE just make it easier to spy on me?
Stupid post.I really don't have a problem with removing last.fm at all.
The other programs I use shouldn't affect network performance.
Agreed. Plus, Firefox is less of a security risk than IE.
You need to remember that IT is a service industry. We are here to service the users, they aren't here to live by stupid rules and policies.Rusty you should try to install the new IE, it's got tabs and stuff and I bet they wouldn't find it.
They actually put a shortcut on the desktop for me. I need an undo close tab, dammit!Forgot to say - make sure hidden files is turned off. It's a hidden folder. (application data)
IIRC that folder should stay there even if FF is uninstalled.
Do a search for "bookmark" after you turn off hidden files (my computer, tools, folder options, view, show hidden files and folders)
found them, hooray.
WORK SITES. :flush:
IE7 :flush:
UPPITY IT BITCHES :flush:
The biggest problem is that Firefox isn't integrated into Windows (obviously). With IE, I can look out tabs in the internet options section. Thus allowing me to have the users history, if there is ever a problem.
I have no problem with deleting Firefox off your machine, Rusty. As an admin, I don't have time to mess with machines that aren't working as intended. If something is wrong and I can't fix it in 30 minutes, it gets re-imaged and all your data goes with it. This is why everyone is warned before hand to use their home drive (network share).
I'm not in the position to say that sort of thing now (different job, different position, lot larger company too) -- so lucky you.
Obviously the rules can be bent with smaller networks, but anything with more than 30 users and I'd be locking everything down. No IM, no streaming music or last.fm, no stupid social site access. There are ways around this though, obviously I get around this everyday where I work now.
Bottom line--I'm a mean network admin, but I run a clean system and you can't complain about slowness regarding the network either. :thumbsup:
You need to remember that IT is a service industry. We are here to service the users, they aren't here to live by stupid rules and policies.Rusty you should try to install the new IE, it's got tabs and stuff and I bet they wouldn't find it.
They actually put a shortcut on the desktop for me. I need an undo close tab, dammit!Forgot to say - make sure hidden files is turned off. It's a hidden folder. (application data)
IIRC that folder should stay there even if FF is uninstalled.
Do a search for "bookmark" after you turn off hidden files (my computer, tools, folder options, view, show hidden files and folders)
found them, hooray.
WORK SITES. :flush:
IE7 :flush:
UPPITY IT BITCHES :flush:
The biggest problem is that Firefox isn't integrated into Windows (obviously). With IE, I can look out tabs in the internet options section. Thus allowing me to have the users history, if there is ever a problem.
I have no problem with deleting Firefox off your machine, Rusty. As an admin, I don't have time to mess with machines that aren't working as intended. If something is wrong and I can't fix it in 30 minutes, it gets re-imaged and all your data goes with it. This is why everyone is warned before hand to use their home drive (network share).
I'm not in the position to say that sort of thing now (different job, different position, lot larger company too) -- so lucky you.
Obviously the rules can be bent with smaller networks, but anything with more than 30 users and I'd be locking everything down. No IM, no streaming music or last.fm, no stupid social site access. There are ways around this though, obviously I get around this everyday where I work now.
Bottom line--I'm a mean network admin, but I run a clean system and you can't complain about slowness regarding the network either. :thumbsup:
They aren't your rules to make.You need to remember that IT is a service industry. We are here to service the users, they aren't here to live by stupid rules and policies.Rusty you should try to install the new IE, it's got tabs and stuff and I bet they wouldn't find it.
They actually put a shortcut on the desktop for me. I need an undo close tab, dammit!Forgot to say - make sure hidden files is turned off. It's a hidden folder. (application data)
IIRC that folder should stay there even if FF is uninstalled.
Do a search for "bookmark" after you turn off hidden files (my computer, tools, folder options, view, show hidden files and folders)
found them, hooray.
WORK SITES. :flush:
IE7 :flush:
UPPITY IT BITCHES :flush:
The biggest problem is that Firefox isn't integrated into Windows (obviously). With IE, I can look out tabs in the internet options section. Thus allowing me to have the users history, if there is ever a problem.
I have no problem with deleting Firefox off your machine, Rusty. As an admin, I don't have time to mess with machines that aren't working as intended. If something is wrong and I can't fix it in 30 minutes, it gets re-imaged and all your data goes with it. This is why everyone is warned before hand to use their home drive (network share).
I'm not in the position to say that sort of thing now (different job, different position, lot larger company too) -- so lucky you.
Obviously the rules can be bent with smaller networks, but anything with more than 30 users and I'd be locking everything down. No IM, no streaming music or last.fm, no stupid social site access. There are ways around this though, obviously I get around this everyday where I work now.
Bottom line--I'm a mean network admin, but I run a clean system and you can't complain about slowness regarding the network either. :thumbsup:
I'm not sure you either understand what I'm saying or maybe I just don't understand what you are getting at.
Streaming video/music/whatever is not a stupid rule, it creates a huge bandwith restriction for the rest of the network trying to do actual work.
I see my job as a facilitator that gets the internet and whatever necessary tools to get the job done and finished. I don't believe the rules I enforce prohibit this. Obviously there are gray areas based on what industry you are working IT for, but for the most part, I'd say my rules are fair (and are not stupid).
Does a user with firefox really make your job that much tougher or slow down the network?We don't support firefox, but we don't uninstall it. It's not supported with quite a few of our web applications. We have several hundred users (out of several thousand) w/ it installed, doesn't make a difference really.
<-- laid back IT guy.Same here. I'm not concerned, or supposed to be concerned about user productivity. It's up to the management to decide that. I'm just concerned w/ supporting the end user.
IE makes things take longer.
Yep - we filter all traffic through a proxy server (ISA) which is set via global policy. This can be done w/ firefox as well. We've got logs of where everyone goes, regardless of whether or not they delete their history <--LOLDoes IE just make it easier to spy on me?
I wouldn't think so, overall. IT usually has all sorts of sniffer programs that scan data in and out of a computer, plus programs on a computer.
They know you are surfing porn whether you are using IE or FF.
In fact, if they wanted to, they could probably easily read your posts complaining about them.
Yep - we filter all traffic through a proxy server (ISA) which is set via global policy. This can be done w/ firefox as well. We've got logs of where everyone goes, regardless of whether or not they delete their history <--LOLDoes IE just make it easier to spy on me?
I wouldn't think so, overall. IT usually has all sorts of sniffer programs that scan data in and out of a computer, plus programs on a computer.
They know you are surfing porn whether you are using IE or FF.
In fact, if they wanted to, they could probably easily read your posts complaining about them.
Sounds like you have a crappy CEO then.Yep - we filter all traffic through a proxy server (ISA) which is set via global policy. This can be done w/ firefox as well. We've got logs of where everyone goes, regardless of whether or not they delete their history <--LOLDoes IE just make it easier to spy on me?
I wouldn't think so, overall. IT usually has all sorts of sniffer programs that scan data in and out of a computer, plus programs on a computer.
They know you are surfing porn whether you are using IE or FF.
In fact, if they wanted to, they could probably easily read your posts complaining about them.
History is the quick and easy way to explain logging to anyone. Everyone understands 'history'--if you use the word proxy, then you will find most persons, including administration brains just wonder off into darkness. You should know as well as I do that the more generic term you use, the more receptive most non-nerds will understand or at least be interested in the conversation.
The reason I run a tight ship is to limit questions in the first place. I common use the phrase 'give them an inch, they take a mile' and that is usually the case. If you say-you can use web radio after hours-soon it turns into a couple hours during the day, a month later, they are running web radio all day. I use the same theory with FF--If I let you install Firefox, you are going to think it's ok to install something else, which leads to something else, which leads to a lot of crap on your computer slowing it down, blaming me for a crappy computer or otherwise. This usually ends up in the ear of the CEO or CFO, who in turn, gets in my ear. This is a vicious cycle that can be stymied from the beginning, and that is what I am doing here.
Sounds like you have a crappy CEO then.Yep - we filter all traffic through a proxy server (ISA) which is set via global policy. This can be done w/ firefox as well. We've got logs of where everyone goes, regardless of whether or not they delete their history <--LOLDoes IE just make it easier to spy on me?
I wouldn't think so, overall. IT usually has all sorts of sniffer programs that scan data in and out of a computer, plus programs on a computer.
They know you are surfing porn whether you are using IE or FF.
In fact, if they wanted to, they could probably easily read your posts complaining about them.
History is the quick and easy way to explain logging to anyone. Everyone understands 'history'--if you use the word proxy, then you will find most persons, including administration brains just wonder off into darkness. You should know as well as I do that the more generic term you use, the more receptive most non-nerds will understand or at least be interested in the conversation.
The reason I run a tight ship is to limit questions in the first place. I common use the phrase 'give them an inch, they take a mile' and that is usually the case. If you say-you can use web radio after hours-soon it turns into a couple hours during the day, a month later, they are running web radio all day. I use the same theory with FF--If I let you install Firefox, you are going to think it's ok to install something else, which leads to something else, which leads to a lot of crap on your computer slowing it down, blaming me for a crappy computer or otherwise. This usually ends up in the ear of the CEO or CFO, who in turn, gets in my ear. This is a vicious cycle that can be stymied from the beginning, and that is what I am doing here.
Yep - we filter all traffic through a proxy server (ISA) which is set via global policy. This can be done w/ firefox as well. We've got logs of where everyone goes, regardless of whether or not they delete their historyDoes IE just make it easier to spy on me?
I wouldn't think so, overall. IT usually has all sorts of sniffer programs that scan data in and out of a computer, plus programs on a computer.
They know you are surfing porn whether you are using IE or FF.
In fact, if they wanted to, they could probably easily read your posts complaining about them.unless they take their computer off the network and surf porn on unsecured wireless networks in random motels across the state<--LOL
damn. guess you know a lot more than vagina shapes.
do non-IT people ever look at internet logs/usage? seriously, I'm pretty bad at surfing too much at work but there are some people that, that's all they do. i gotta think no one really either a) cares or b) knowsIT people generally don't care. Managers care, so to answer your question, yes.
They aren't your rules to make.
and i echo that. at my last job, my manager fired people over where they would browse, and the contents of their email. I guess there were some problems about inappropriate use of PC's before I worked there. She had me constantly checking people's history, cookies, and their email even more often.do non-IT people ever look at internet logs/usage? seriously, I'm pretty bad at surfing too much at work but there are some people that, that's all they do. i gotta think no one really either a) cares or b) knowsIT people generally don't care. Managers care, so to answer your question, yes.
jeez, are half the people on this site in IT?
do non-IT people ever look at internet logs/usage? seriously, I'm pretty bad at surfing too much at work but there are some people that, that's all they do. i gotta think no one really either a) cares or b) knows