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Title: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 12, 2007, 10:22:15 AM
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Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 12, 2007, 10:22:55 AM
It won't really matter because we will beat MU.
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 12, 2007, 10:27:43 AM
It won't really matter because we will beat MU.

Yes it will still matter because the possibility of playing for a national title is still in play.  With a loss, that possibility is pretty much over for ku. 
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: michigancat on November 12, 2007, 10:28:55 AM
show me the money.
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 12, 2007, 10:30:51 AM
show me the money.

LOL. Dead wrong. They could have had gameday in Lawrence. It's a huge mistake on ku's part.
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: cyclist on November 12, 2007, 10:50:02 AM
Pardon me sir, but you have mistaken me for someone who gives a crap about ku football.

:cyclist: :cyclist: :cyclist: :cyclist:

Maybe I should edit the poll to add that ?   Dax ?

Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 12, 2007, 10:53:28 AM
Cyclist has an inferiority complex.
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: cyclist on November 12, 2007, 10:58:43 AM
Cyclist has an inferiority complex.

No, I'm classless.

:curse: :curse: :curse: :curse:
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: catzacker on November 12, 2007, 11:21:12 AM
Lawrence.  I'm against any game KSU would play in Arrowhead.  You don't showcase your school by having the I-70, 435 interchange in the background.  Imagine how terrible the NU game in '98 would have been in Arrowhead. 
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: MOKSUAZ on November 12, 2007, 11:38:43 AM
how did the powers that be know that ku would be 10-0 and MU 9-1, genius on their part really.   :bs:
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: BMWJhawk on November 12, 2007, 03:21:39 PM
You're an idiot if you don't see the benefit of playing Mizzou at Arrowhead.

1.  If Kansas didn't move the game back to Nov. 24th, we would have played Mizzou the week before K-State.  Therefore, no bye week, no national television, and possibly no undefeated record and high amounts of confidence heading into the K-State game.

2.  Kansas is guaranteed $1 million.  That's more than we would have made playing Mizzou in Memorial Stadium. 

3.  Next season, the game's still at Arrowhead.  That means that Kansas will essentially play 5 home games in conference as opposed to 4.  We'll have the luxury of playing Mizzou in Arrowhead instead of Columbia. 

4.  This is great for recruiting.  It gives guys a chance to play in an NFL stadium at least once in their lifetime and it allows the local KC recruits to watch a game close to home.

Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: MOKSUAZ on November 12, 2007, 03:26:55 PM
1.  If Kansas didn't move the game back to Nov. 24th, we would have played Mizzou the week before K-State.  Therefore, no bye week, no national television, and possibly no undefeated record and high amounts of confidence heading into the K-State game.

so you don't believe you can beat us without a bye week or can beat MU.  thanks for informing us.  we'll take that into account next year when you don't have one.
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: catzacker on November 12, 2007, 03:27:14 PM
BMW, would you rather play the game in Lawrence or Arrowhead this year?  You do realize that this game would've gotten moved irregardless of it being at Arrowhead.
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: The42Yardstick on November 12, 2007, 03:30:54 PM
:jerkoff:



BMW, I usually lay off of you because of the abuse you get on this board, but you have to be retarded to think that playing in K.C. has more benefit to the program in the long run than having the game in Lawrence. We could have had Gameday as fatty said, the stadium would be the loudest it's possibly ever been, and the slavers have a history of pissing down their legs in Lawrence. The chances of winning this game would have gone up exponentially if the game had been in Lawrence, instead we may have sold out a chance to go to the B12 CCG and possibly the national title, all because Lew wanted an extra $1 million. We'll get a lot more than that if we make a BCS game, which isn't guaranteed if we lose to the slavers, Texas might still jump us. Beating Missouri would have helped recruiting a hell of a lot more than losing on a neutral field. Next year does not matter right now, as this game will undoubtedly have more importance to the direction of the whole program than next year.

Lew didn't anticipate us being this good at the end of the season, which is understandable since nobody did, but at this point the risk is not worth the potential reward.
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: BMWJhawk on November 12, 2007, 03:38:11 PM
:jerkoff:



BMW, I usually lay off of you because of the abuse you get on this board, but you have to be retarded to think that playing in K.C. has more benefit to the program in the long run than having the game in Lawrence. We could have had Gameday as fatty said, the stadium would be the loudest it's possibly ever been, and the slavers have a history of pissing down their legs in Lawrence. The chances of winning this game would have gone up exponentially if the game had been in Lawrence, instead we may have sold out a chance to go to the B12 CCG and possibly the national title, all because Lew wanted an extra $1 million. We'll get a lot more than that if we make a BCS game, which isn't guaranteed if we lose to the slavers, Texas might still jump us. Beating Missouri would have helped recruiting a hell of a lot more than losing on a neutral field. Next year does not matter right now, as this game will undoubtedly have more importance to the direction of the whole program than next year.

Lew didn't anticipate us being this good at the end of the season, which is understandable since nobody did, but at this point the risk is not worth the potential reward.


So you think just because the game isn't at Memorial Stadium that Kansas is going to lose???

I don't know if you're the type of fan that travels to games away from Lawrence, but I do, and I've seen Kansas play on the road first hand this season.  If you think these guys are just going to fold because there's a relatively neutral crowd than you know nothing about this team. 

Another thing that I pointed out is that the Mizzou game would have preceeded the K-State game!  No bye week, possibly no undefeated record, no national television, no Big 12 title implications, etc.  You've really got to be in denial to say that the scenarios would have been the same had Kansas played Mizzou on Oct. 7th, when the game was originally scheduled.  Kansas might not even be in this position if we had lost to Mizzou right at the beginning of the season.  No Kendrick Harper in there to help out with the talented Mizzou receiving corps.  Think about that.

Also, I don't hear Oklahoma/Texas fans complaining about the Red River Shootout being at the Cotton Bowl.  If Kansas wants to move up in the college football world then we need to market ourselves, and a good way to do that is by playing games like we'll have on Nov. 24th.  Also, where is the rule that says College Gameday has to be held at a college stadium?

 :jerkoff:

Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: pissclams on November 12, 2007, 03:40:46 PM
Anyone who says they wouldn't want the chance to play this type of a game in their home stadium is smokey smokey the wacky wacky. BMW, I'll give you a pass on this one given the euphoria that most ku fans are currently feeling.
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: Saulbadguy on November 12, 2007, 03:41:42 PM
 :billypopcorn:
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: MOKSUAZ on November 12, 2007, 03:42:34 PM
:jerkoff:



BMW, I usually lay off of you because of the abuse you get on this board, but you have to be retarded to think that playing in K.C. has more benefit to the program in the long run than having the game in Lawrence. We could have had Gameday as fatty said, the stadium would be the loudest it's possibly ever been, and the slavers have a history of pissing down their legs in Lawrence. The chances of winning this game would have gone up exponentially if the game had been in Lawrence, instead we may have sold out a chance to go to the B12 CCG and possibly the national title, all because Lew wanted an extra $1 million. We'll get a lot more than that if we make a BCS game, which isn't guaranteed if we lose to the slavers, Texas might still jump us. Beating Missouri would have helped recruiting a hell of a lot more than losing on a neutral field. Next year does not matter right now, as this game will undoubtedly have more importance to the direction of the whole program than next year.

Lew didn't anticipate us being this good at the end of the season, which is understandable since nobody did, but at this point the risk is not worth the potential reward.


So you think just because the game isn't at Memorial Stadium that Kansas is going to lose???

I don't know if you're the type of fan that travels to games away from Lawrence, but I do, and I've seen Kansas play on the road for the first time ever b/c we are winning this season.  If you think these guys are just going to fold because there's a relatively neutral crowd than you know nothing about this team. 

Another thing that I pointed out is that the Mizzou came would have preceeded the K-State game!  No bye week, possibly no undefeated record, no national television, no Big 12 title implications, etc.  You've really got to be in denial to say that the scenarios would have been the same had Kansas played Mizzou on Oct. 7th, when the game was originally scheduled.  Kansas might not even be in this position if we had lost to Mizzou right at the beginning of the season.  No Kendrick Harper in there to help out with the talented Mizzou receiving corps.  Think about that.

Also, I don't hear Oklahoma/Texas fans complaining about the Red River Shootout being at the Cotton Bowl.  If Kansas wants to move up in the college football world then we need to market ourselves, and a good way to do that is by playing games like we'll have on Nov. 24th.  Also, where is the rule that says College Gameday has to be held at a college stadium?

 :jerkoff:



you really don't have faith in your team if you don't think you can't beat MU or KSU without a bye week.
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: BMWJhawk on November 12, 2007, 03:44:37 PM
I never said Kansas wouldn't have beaten K-State without a bye week.  Do I think it helped?  Yes, I do.

Enjoy your 5-5 team.
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: MOKSUAZ on November 12, 2007, 03:48:48 PM
but you aren't standing pat that you're team would be 10-0 without it.  if you're going to talk up your team you should have no doubts you can beat any team, any where. 

and i do enjoy my 5-5 team, albeit a crapty one, but i didn't jump on the bandwagon after 5 games into one weird ass college fball season.
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 12, 2007, 03:50:09 PM
 the game was going to be during thanksgiving whether or not the game was moved to KC.



Sheesh.

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Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: Kat Kid on November 12, 2007, 03:53:22 PM
LOLLERZZ!111
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 12, 2007, 03:58:31 PM
MU has won 1 time in the last 8 trips to Lawrence, now they get 35,000 of their own fans to cheer them on in ku's biggest "home" game maybe EVER.

Cap . . . will you be flying into KC on your private jet??
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: catzacker on November 12, 2007, 03:59:15 PM
the game was going to be during thanksgiving whether or not the game was moved to KC.



Sheesh.

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QFT.  And LOL.
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: steve dave on November 12, 2007, 04:00:28 PM
the game was going to be during thanksgiving whether or not the game was moved to KC.



Sheesh.

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LOLLERSNORTZZZZ
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: BMWJhawk on November 12, 2007, 04:01:49 PM
MU has won 1 time in the last 8 trips to Lawrence, now they get 35,000 of their own fans to cheer them on in ku's biggest "home" game maybe EVER.

Cap . . . will you be flying into KC on your private jet??



Why are you so concerned?  Don't you have your own team to worry about?

Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: catzacker on November 12, 2007, 04:05:46 PM
MU has won 1 time in the last 8 trips to Lawrence, now they get 35,000 of their own fans to cheer them on in ku's biggest "home" game maybe EVER.

Cap . . . will you be flying into KC on your private jet??



Why are you so concerned?  Don't you have your own team to worry about?

Not really.  Our team sucks, so we can focus our energy on other things.  Keep your girl away from the concession stand, Arrowhead has some good nachos. 
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: BMWJhawk on November 12, 2007, 04:09:36 PM
That's been over for quite a while now. 

It seems to me like you K-State fans are all just jealous that Kansas is getting all this national recognition.  Also, who the hell would K-State play at Arrowhead?  Iowa State?
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: MOKSUAZ on November 12, 2007, 04:12:38 PM
OU in the big 12 title game, something you won't experience this season or ever.
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on November 12, 2007, 04:16:13 PM
Who's the tool in the $10 shirt and the puka shell necklace?

I hope that was taken in 1996.
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 12, 2007, 04:17:31 PM
Damn BMW is one hyper-defensive little bitch.

Sad . . .
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: waks on November 12, 2007, 06:26:43 PM
That's been over for quite a while now. 

It seems to me like you K-State fans are all just jealous that Kansas is getting all this national recognition.
You'd be right. I'm super jealous. You really have no idea.


Addressing the main idea in the thread...

The point you're trying to make, Dax, is entirely moot. How the hell would ku have known that they would be in such a position this late in the season? Do you honestly think that anyone from Lawrence thought that this game would even affect ku's bowl chances, let alone a national title? No, they didn't. While yes, it would be a lot better to have this game in Lawrence, it didn't matter when they scheduled this. They looked at the Mizzou game as a game that they likely wouldn't have a chance of winning. So they thought that they might as well make as much money as possible. It's easy to say that it was a dumb move, looking back on it, but initially it wasn't that stupid of a move for an administration that didn't care much for football anyway.
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 12, 2007, 06:31:15 PM
It's not moot.

But you made me think of something else.  It's Mangino's ultimatum year, and Lew Perkins moves a key game out of Lawrence to KC and invites 35,000 MU fans to attend.   Hmmm . . .

Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: waks on November 12, 2007, 06:36:58 PM
It's not moot.

But you made me think of something else.  It's Mangino's ultimatum year, and Lew Perkins moves a key game out of Lawrence to KC and invites 35,000 MU fans to attend.   Hmmm . . .


I'm confused on the amount of tickets that Mizzou got. I was under the impression that ku got well over the majority of the tickets. Not just a little over half..
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: WilliamTheWildcat on November 12, 2007, 06:46:54 PM
Ben Michael,

That haircut is a touch like Mo from the Three Stooges.  Well done.
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: BMWJhawk on November 12, 2007, 06:49:20 PM
Hey, that was three years ago.  I could care less. 
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 12, 2007, 06:51:37 PM
I could care less. 

LOL. I'm not going to be mean. Don't do it fatty, don't do it.
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: Hawkish on November 12, 2007, 06:53:23 PM
Lew Perkins makes me want to vomit.




Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: WilliamTheWildcat on November 12, 2007, 06:54:16 PM
Oh. Sorry I brought it up. I'm not trying to start another thread that will end up eviscerating you.  And yes, I'm jealous of your team.
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: waks on November 12, 2007, 07:05:15 PM
I could care less. 

LOL. I'm not going to be mean. Don't do it fatty, don't do it.
Posting more pictures or making fun of him for saying "he could care less" when it should be "he couldn't care less"?


The latter would be pretty tardish IMO. The first one would be kind of mean/&@#%ed up.
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: Hawkish on November 12, 2007, 08:09:43 PM
Oh. Sorry I brought it up. I'm not trying to start another thread that will end up eviscerating you.  And yes, I'm jealous of your team.

No, Lew Perkins just takes the college out of college athletics.

It bothers me it isn't for the students - all of the students.

It's fair cannon fodder. Just like Weiser crying about Bob Huggins leaving.
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: fabio on November 13, 2007, 01:11:43 AM
It's not moot.

But you made me think of something else.  It's Mangino's ultimatum year, and Lew Perkins moves a key game out of Lawrence to KC and invites 35,000 MU fans to attend.   Hmmm . . .


I'm confused on the amount of tickets that Mizzou got. I was under the impression that ku got well over the majority of the tickets. Not just a little over half..

That guy dosent know what he is talking about. Mizzou only got 20,000 tickets to give to their fans.  Assume that half of the 15,000 Chiefs fans will be rooting for Mizzou and their will be around 27,500 Mizzou fans, the rest Jayhawks.  With the closed in stadium and about the same number of ku fans that would of been in Memorial Stadium, we will actually be significantly louder than we would of been in Lawrence, where there is a huge track between the fans and the game.
Any of you clowns ever watch college football besides the team you support.  Schools play on neutral fields almost weekly, quit acting like this is some crazy idea that somebody just came up with.  The greatest rivalry in college football perhaps, Alabama/Auburn was played in Birmingham for over 50 years.  If you guys have a problem with a neurtral field than college football isnt for you. Go check out your local middle school or something.
Also, if we want to win the north division we shouldnt mind playing any of our north division rivals on a field where we will have 2/3 of the fans in attendance.  Championship teams win anywhere. home, road, or neutral dosent matter. So quit whining and have faith in your undefeated team.
Title: Re: Biggest game for your football program in 40 years.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 13, 2007, 10:20:48 AM
It's not moot.

But you made me think of something else.  It's Mangino's ultimatum year, and Lew Perkins moves a key game out of Lawrence to KC and invites 35,000 MU fans to attend.   Hmmm . . .


I'm confused on the amount of tickets that Mizzou got. I was under the impression that ku got well over the majority of the tickets. Not just a little over half..

That guy dosent know what he is talking about. Mizzou only got 20,000 tickets to give to their fans.  Assume that half of the 15,000 Chiefs fans will be rooting for Mizzou and their will be around 27,500 Mizzou fans, the rest Jayhawks.  With the closed in stadium and about the same number of ku fans that would of been in Memorial Stadium, we will actually be significantly louder than we would of been in Lawrence, where there is a huge track between the fans and the game.
Any of you clowns ever watch college football besides the team you support.  Schools play on neutral fields almost weekly, quit acting like this is some crazy idea that somebody just came up with.  The greatest rivalry in college football perhaps, Alabama/Auburn was played in Birmingham for over 50 years.  If you guys have a problem with a neurtral field than college football isnt for you. Go check out your local middle school or something.
Also, if we want to win the north division we shouldnt mind playing any of our north division rivals on a field where we will have 2/3 of the fans in attendance.  Championship teams win anywhere. home, road, or neutral dosent matter. So quit whining and have faith in your undefeated team.

Nobody said this was some "Crazy" idea dumbass.   There's a HUGE difference between 35,000 and 28,000 MU fans  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:.   Alabama and Auburn are extremely pleased to have the Iron Bowl back on campus now.  Again, MU has won 1 time in Lawrence in their last 8 visits.   Lew Perkins issues Mark Mangino an ultimatum and then moves what was likely to be a pivotal game for ku no matter what to Kansas City and ensures that instead of 4 or 5,000 MU fans being there, they'll be 28,000 PLUS MU fans there.   Interesting to say the least.  28,000 fans of one team can make a lot of noise in a place like Arrowhead.