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Title: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: Iceberg on November 05, 2007, 06:01:11 PM
Inside sources say that Prince was so upset after Saturdays game he made it blateningly obvious to Franklin to polish up his resume and put his house on the market.

So who will be the new OC? Inside promotion or new hire?
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: catzacker on November 05, 2007, 06:03:43 PM
LOL, did he clean out Tibesar's locker too?
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: dlew12 on November 05, 2007, 06:15:37 PM
Hate to tell RP, but the offense wasn't the problem saturday.
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: Iceberg on November 05, 2007, 06:49:00 PM
Hate to tell RP, but the offense wasn't the problem saturday.

I agree that defense is the problem to work on. We desperately need the old lynch mob back. However, it is not postive to enter you opponent's territory five time just to leave with 20 points. I'm not saying I am for getting rid of Franklin, just that his termination will be official by the end of the year.

Maybe Prince is tying in his disappointment in not landing Arthur Brown. Franklin is his recruiter.
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: AzCat on November 05, 2007, 06:51:17 PM
We did kill about three more drives Saturday (bringing the total to like 100 for the year) by completing passes for X-1 yards on third down with X yards to go.  Clearlly the WR coach should be fired.   
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: michigancat on November 05, 2007, 06:52:24 PM
Maybe Prince is tying in his disappointment in not landing Arthur Brown. Franklin is his recruiter.
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: BostonPancake on November 05, 2007, 06:52:35 PM
Wasn't this same rumor out there last year??  

Offense was not a problem, and Franklin is the last person to blame for this.  He didn't tip 2 passes for INTs, or blow a TD call.  I would also wager that he could probably get a yard on 4th and goal from the 1.  He also didn't give up the two biggest plays all year for ISU.
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: Wildcat Jack on November 05, 2007, 07:11:28 PM
Why in the sam hill wouldn't Prince call the plays then???
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: KSUTOMMY on November 05, 2007, 07:22:37 PM
Why in the sam hill wouldn't Prince call the plays then???

RIGHT - he was an OC himself as we all know. He could make a case for himself - didn't he call the plays against CU? He could prolly cut a deal with Weiser, can OCJF and get half of OCJF's salary for himself. THERE'S some thinking. I just dont care for the play calling - too precictable. On the D, Tibs cannot coach talent.
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: CALCATA on November 05, 2007, 07:55:07 PM
Hate to tell RP, but the offense wasn't the problem saturday.

Bullsh&t.

ISU didn't score an offensive TD in the second half. Adjustments were made...ISU was shut down.

If not for Freeman throwing that Pick 6 and the refs RAPING us on that call -- we win that game.

Our offense play calling was horrible. Absolutely  pathetic.



Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: hemmy on November 05, 2007, 08:00:23 PM
Clearly RP will demote himself to OC, and Bill Bellicheck will be the new HC
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: ArchE_Cat on November 05, 2007, 08:37:47 PM
LOL, did he clean out Tibesar's locker too?

I live "next door" to a defensive graduate assistant coach and he was home for about 10 minutes Sat night. When he left to go back to Vanier he said he had to hurry, he couldn't be late because "he" was mad...very mad.
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: catzacker on November 05, 2007, 09:11:19 PM
Hate to tell RP, but the offense wasn't the problem saturday.

Bullsh&t.

ISU didn't score an offensive TD in the second half. Adjustments were made...ISU was shut down.

If not for Freeman throwing that Pick 6 and the refs RAPING us on that call -- we win that game.

Our offense play calling was horrible. Absolutely  pathetic.

If Ron would fire Franklin for this performance against ISU he needs to basically fire himself and never coach again, ever.   Why the f*ck was the team down at halftime?  Because the defense is made up of a bunch of FP's.  It's ISU's offense for f*ck sake, not the Patriots offense.  I don't give a damn if we gave it to them at the 30...make them kick a field goal.  Or how about not letting them drive 90+ yards on the following series?   

Oh, and maybe if our DC didn't call plays like he's using an "if, then"' formula in excel, he'd switch his calls up a bit so the other OC doesn't bend him over to start with.
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: kougar24 on November 05, 2007, 10:04:57 PM
Why is it that everyone claims it was either the offense or the defense?

They both sucked.
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: opcat on November 05, 2007, 10:12:06 PM
thanks for that info.

depressing. 
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: dlew12 on November 05, 2007, 10:16:43 PM
Hate to tell RP, but the offense wasn't the problem saturday.

Bullsh&t.

ISU didn't score an offensive TD in the second half. Adjustments were made...ISU was shut down.

If not for Freeman throwing that Pick 6 and the refs RAPING us on that call -- we win that game.


Ha.  You've got to be kidding me.  The only reason that we "Shut ISU down" in the second half is because they ditched the run game for some god forsaken reason.  The pick 6 hurt, but it didn't hurt nearly as bad as giving up 21 points in the first quarter to Iowa &@#%ing State and having to play catch up the rest of the game.  

Also, JJ's run was the only call the refs "RAPED" us on all game.  Other than that, it seemed like we were getting most every call.  Probably had something to do with Prince berating the officials at half time.
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: KSt8er on November 07, 2007, 09:49:16 AM

 Probably had something to do with Prince berating the officials at half time.

And maybe he was berating them because of all the damn holding they were doing.  Every play around the end had an obvious hold happening which allowed them the edge.  I know there is holding going on with most plays but these were ridiculously obvious and effected the outcome of the play.  Just sayin'

I'm still out on Franklin, his next recruiting class may be the tipper. 
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: michigancat on November 07, 2007, 09:59:19 AM
I thought the holding on JJ's run was questionable.
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: cireksu on November 07, 2007, 11:25:26 AM
I finally watched the 2nd half on passport and we had every opportunity to take the game from them and just didn't.  We should have been down 5 going into the 4th.
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: vanro031 on November 07, 2007, 11:49:24 AM
I hear there may be a coach available come late November that could help out your WCO. You guys will love his style of coaching.. :hahano:
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: SUPERKSUFAN on November 07, 2007, 01:23:23 PM
I hear there may be a coach available come late November that could help out your WCO. You guys will love his style of coaching.. :hahano:

No thank you - we will keep Prince  :nono:
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: Legore on November 07, 2007, 02:18:19 PM
If Prince was pissed at Franklin my guess was it was for the 4th and 1 QB sneak call.   That was pure garbage to try and sneak it from a full yard out with 9 defenders in the box.  Success rate on a play like like that is probably 20% tops had to be some bad info relayed from the box on what the spot was.   You try something like that if you've got 6 inches to go not a full yard.  The spot on the play before that was bad but someone up in the box has to recognize where the ball was spotted and relay that to whomever is making the play call. 
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: dlew12 on November 07, 2007, 02:46:43 PM
If Prince was pissed at Franklin my guess was it was for the 4th and 1 QB sneak call.   That was pure garbage to try and sneak it from a full yard out with 9 defenders in the box.  Success rate on a play like like that is probably 20% tops had to be some bad info relayed from the box on what the spot was.   You try something like that if you've got 6 inches to go not a full yard.  The spot on the play before that was bad but someone up in the box has to recognize where the ball was spotted and relay that to whomever is making the play call. 

The success rate of a quarterback sneak from inside the 1 with a 250 pound quarterback is 20%?  Really?

On that play, we just had a bunch of FP's blocking for Freeman.  It should've worked and was a solid call.  Our fatties just didn't get a good push.
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: michigancat on November 07, 2007, 02:48:04 PM
Our fanbase would have melted down if QB sneak wouldn't have been called there.  (and it failed)

Like, even worse.
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: Legore on November 07, 2007, 03:30:42 PM
If Prince was pissed at Franklin my guess was it was for the 4th and 1 QB sneak call.   That was pure garbage to try and sneak it from a full yard out with 9 defenders in the box.  Success rate on a play like like that is probably 20% tops had to be some bad info relayed from the box on what the spot was.   You try something like that if you've got 6 inches to go not a full yard.  The spot on the play before that was bad but someone up in the box has to recognize where the ball was spotted and relay that to whomever is making the play call. 

The success rate of a quarterback sneak from inside the 1 with a 250 pound quarterback is 20%?  Really?

On that play, we just had a bunch of FP's blocking for Freeman.  It should've worked and was a solid call.  Our fatties just didn't get a good push.

It was a full  yard to go and yes that is low percentage in that circumstance from that distance.  You've got 9 in the box every o-lineman is going to be covered by a d-lineman and they are taught to pinch in on the center at the snap.  We've got a 270 pound center whose best strength is his mobility.  Freeman is big but kind of awkard and he's not exactly the type to squeeze through small holes his size probably hurts on that play more then it helps because his center of gravity is high.  It was a god awful call and doomed from the start and maybe the o-lineman are pussy's but part of being an coach is knowing what your players do well and what they don't do well.   
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: michigancat on November 07, 2007, 03:31:14 PM
I would have kicked the FG.
Title: Re: Who will be the new OC?
Post by: catzacker on November 07, 2007, 04:54:25 PM
Our fanbase would have melted down if QB sneak wouldn't have been called there.  (and it failed)

Like, even worse.

QFT.