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Title: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: michigancat on November 04, 2007, 11:13:19 AM
9/4 vs. New Mexico State (5-6) W 34 10
9/11 vs. Western Kentucky (non-IA) W 38 13
9/18 @ Minnesota (4-7) W 30 25
9/25 vs. Nevada-Las Vegas (3-8) W 36 20
10/9 vs. *Kansas (5-7) W 10 9
10/16 @ *Nebraska (11-1) L 28 45
10/23 vs. *Colorado (8-3-1) T 16 16
10/30 vs. *Oklahoma (9-3) W 21 7
11/6 @ *Iowa State (3-8) L 23 27
11/13 vs. *Missouri (3-7-1) W 31 21
11/20 @ *Oklahoma State (3-8) W 21 17

http://www.jhowell.net/cf/Scores/KansasState.htm#1993

One win over a team with a winning record, one horribly embarrasing loss.  The offense was worse, but the defense was better than today's.
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: pufizzle on November 04, 2007, 11:20:06 AM
God I wish we could have played that schedule this year.  My guess is we would end up with the exact same result (win/loss) as '93.  Except we would beat CU in OT.
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: michigancat on November 04, 2007, 11:21:53 AM
Have you seen the 1993 highlight reel on DoD?

The offense looks identical to what we're running now.
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: snyderfanatic on November 04, 2007, 02:44:49 PM
May over Freeman
Lockett, Andre Coleman, Mitch Running, Tyson Schweiger Over Jordy, Murphy and Gonzo
JJ Smith, Rod Schiller, Leon Edwards slightly over James Johnson and Leon (If we were willing to run that would likely change)
Both teams feature backs are JJ's and little Leon in relief
Seib was the TE (Seems like we have about 5 on the field in the Prince Coast Offense)

No comparison to a Leavitt-Stoops defense vs this mess
Special Teams- Murphy, Jordy, Johnson even better than Coleman

Teams played:
Non Con- Auburn better than Minnesota, other teams equal
Con- NU was # 2 in country and we played them ultra close (Chad had close to 500 yards passing) in Lincoln, NU got cheap td with under a minute to play
CU was a lot better
ku was decent, not like this chick team, more like last year
OU- a similar team to OSU this year, we spanked em in Manhattan 21-7 GREAT WIN
MU- Lame duck coach Bob Stull, no defense and team was horrid
ISU- Bad road loss, that one game still really is a killer 14 years later
OSU- Okay team, great comeback win, set the stage for future KSU rallies

Killed a good Wyoming team in Copper Bowl
9-2-1 seemed like the greatest season we could ever have
 
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 04, 2007, 02:49:30 PM
1993 didn't lose to a 1-8 team. I don't like this argument.
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on November 04, 2007, 02:59:28 PM
That '93 team was WAY better than this team...it's not even a contest.
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 04, 2007, 03:03:03 PM
That '93 team was WAY better than this team...it's not even a contest.

LOL. No they weren't. They just knew how to win, which is the bottom-line.
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: Pete on November 04, 2007, 03:07:34 PM
Have you seen the 1993 highlight reel on DoD?

The offense looks identical to what we're running now.

The 1993 team was much better on offense than this year's team.  I watched it in person...not on DVD.
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 04, 2007, 03:10:46 PM
Have you seen the 1993 highlight reel on DoD?

The offense looks identical to what we're running now.

The 1993 team was much better on offense than this year's team.  I watched it in person...not on DVD.

I don't give a sh1t if you watched it in person. Look at the ppg.
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: Pete on November 04, 2007, 03:14:13 PM
Have you seen the 1993 highlight reel on DoD?

The offense looks identical to what we're running now.

The 1993 team was much better on offense than this year's team.  I watched it in person...not on DVD.

I don't give a sh1t if you watched it in person. Look at the ppg.

Wow, they played the same opponents?  Wierd.

You are a &@#%ing idiot if you are going to stick with that argument.
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 04, 2007, 03:17:13 PM
yes, a fracking idiot that uses ppg to judge scoring.

nice.
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: Pete on November 04, 2007, 03:20:23 PM
yes, a fracking idiot that uses ppg to judge scoring.

nice.

Judge "scoring?"  Is that what this entire thread is about?   :jerkoff:
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 04, 2007, 03:21:51 PM
you did

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The 1993 team was much better on offense than this year's team.


I'm sorry if this board doesn't accept your fire prince campaign. Try gopowercat big twelve north.
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: catzacker on November 04, 2007, 03:35:38 PM
The defensive ppg are what have seperated all the teams since 2003.  Prior to 2004, the last team to give up more than 20ppg was the 1992 team.  Since 2003, we've give up 30.6, 27.7, 23.8, and this year we've given up 22.6.  The defense sucks, until it's fixed it won't really matter that we're putting up 36.7ppg (thus far most since 2002) this year.
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 04, 2007, 03:36:50 PM
The defensive ppg are what have seperated all the teams since 2003.  Prior to 2004, the last team to give up more than 20ppg was the 1992 team.  Since 2003, we've give up 30.6, 27.7, 23.8, and this year we've given up 22.6.  The defense sucks, until it's fixed it won't really matter that we're putting up 36.7ppg (thus far most since 2002) this year.

nail on head.
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: kougar24 on November 04, 2007, 03:51:19 PM
The defensive ppg are what have seperated all the teams since 2003.  Prior to 2004, the last team to give up more than 20ppg was the 1992 team.  Since 2003, we've give up 30.6, 27.7, 23.8, and this year we've given up 22.6.  The defense sucks, until it's fixed it won't really matter that we're putting up 36.7ppg (thus far most since 2002) this year.

Bingo.
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: michigancat on November 04, 2007, 04:18:16 PM
Losing to 2-7 ISU was very comparable to losing to 1-8 ISU.
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: michigancat on November 04, 2007, 04:21:04 PM
Have you seen the 1993 highlight reel on DoD?

The offense looks identical to what we're running now.

The 1993 team was much better on offense than this year's team.  I watched it in person...not on DVD.

That was more a comment on the style.
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: WILDCAT NATION on November 04, 2007, 04:44:28 PM
That '93 team was WAY better than this team...it's not even a contest.

LOL. No they weren't. They just knew how to win, which is the bottom-line.

Hence, better.
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: fatty fat fat on November 04, 2007, 04:54:34 PM
That '93 team was WAY better than this team...it's not even a contest.

LOL. No they weren't. They just knew how to win, which is the bottom-line.

Hence, better.


LOL. You didn't think much of W'ls and L's during Jim's tenure.
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: Pete on November 04, 2007, 05:11:09 PM
That '93 team was WAY better than this team...it's not even a contest.

LOL. No they weren't. They just knew how to win, which is the bottom-line.

Hence, better.


LOL. You didn't think much of W'ls and L's during Jim's tenure.

Jesus, you've worked yourself into a lather haven't you? 
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: Skycat on November 05, 2007, 10:06:01 AM
It's all about the defense.  I'd take 93 over 07 in a heartbeat.

Colston, Mendez, Randolph, Gordon.  Cripes, Dirk Ochs was far more productive than any DL from the 07 squad.

Special teams are close to a wash.  Offenses really are very similar.
Title: Re: Compare the 2007 Wildcats to the 1993 Wildcats
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 05, 2007, 10:51:35 AM
KSU went 1-1-1 against teams that combined for a 28-7-1 record.  LOL . . . I remember how pissed off Jaime Mendez was after Snyder decided to go for the tie against CU.   That game as many will recall had the greatest catch in KSU history with K Lockett.