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Title: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: michigancat on October 30, 2007, 03:07:26 PM
Why do KSU fans want to run down Texas and Kansas?

Personally, I like to think that KSU's only home loss was to a top 10 team, and that they beat a legit top 15 team on the road.  Am I alone?

???
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: MOKSUAZ on October 30, 2007, 03:11:11 PM
alone as a loaner?  then yes.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: JTKSU on October 30, 2007, 03:16:26 PM
Why do KSU fans want to run down Texas and Kansas?

Personally, I like to think that KSU's only home loss was to a top 10 team, and that they beat a legit top 15 team on the road.  Am I alone?

???

1) Texas is our bitch.  No need to give them any respect.  You think Snoop Dogg buys his bitches flowers?  Hell no.
2) I hate ku.  We should have won that game, and then the ku fans could be saying: "well our only loss is to a legitimate top 15 team."  If we had lost to OU you would see more respect and we would root them on to win out.  But never ku.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: kougar24 on October 30, 2007, 03:21:23 PM
Why do KSU fans want to run down Texas and Kansas?

Personally, I like to think that KSU's only home loss was to a top 10 team, and that they beat a legit top 15 team on the road.  Am I alone?

???

It's the "overrated chant" syndrome; it's extremely stupid and contrary to a fan's best interests, but that doesn't stop thousands of dumbf*cks doing it every weekend.

I guess the desire to scoff at one's rivals outweighs the desire for positive recognition of one's own team, for some.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: Skycat on October 30, 2007, 03:23:29 PM
The only thing worse than running down the teams that you've played already is sucking up to them.

Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: pissclams on October 30, 2007, 03:25:21 PM
ETT and possible future Powertard quiz question.

+ making fun of any team that is 8-0 just looks dumb.

The only thing worse than running down the teams that you've played already is sucking up to them.
:curse:
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: michigancat on October 30, 2007, 03:36:17 PM
1) Texas is our bitch.  No need to give them any respect.  You think Snoop Dogg buys his bitches flowers?  Hell no.

I like our bitches to be in the top 10.  Snoop doesn't deal with ugly bitches.

2) I hate ku.  We should have won that game, and then the ku fans could be saying: "well our only loss is to a legitimate top 15 team."  If we had lost to OU you would see more respect and we would root them on to win out.  But never ku.

Calling them "frauds" and "rooting for them" are two different things.

I mean, the overrated chant makes sense compared to the nonsense KSU fans create.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: SuperSoulFighter on October 30, 2007, 03:38:17 PM
ku is not very good.  Why can't you understand that?   Have you watched them?

Go ahead and spin it in whatever way makes you feel better about KSU's team, but facts are facts.  They are not one of the 10 best teams in the nation.  Not even close.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: michigancat on October 30, 2007, 03:41:57 PM
ku is not very good.  Why can't you understand that?   Have you watched them?

They're 8-0.  They're 3-0 on the road on the in the Big 12.  Saying they "aren't very good" is spin.  Pointing to their record as evidence that they're good is dealing with facts.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: Skycat on October 30, 2007, 03:42:12 PM
Kansas is pretty good.

Texas is pretty lousy.

Doesn't matter what I want, that's the way it is.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: SuperSoulFighter on October 30, 2007, 03:44:16 PM
I was unclear.  Kansas is good.  They are not "very good" (as in elite or Top 10).
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: catzacker on October 30, 2007, 03:46:35 PM
ku is good, UT and KSU are average.  If our defense played like ku's, we'd be undefeated too.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: michigancat on October 30, 2007, 03:47:19 PM
I was unclear.  Kansas is good.  They are not "very good" (as in elite or Top 10).

No one outside of the top 5 is "elite" or "top 10 good" this year.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: BigXIIfan on October 30, 2007, 03:48:21 PM
Because most people cant handle the fact that we owned them for so many years and are a little better than us right now.  Its jealousy/dumbfounded that ku is actually good at football.  Its not normal so its considered "against the grain" so people think its weird.

on the texas thing.  who cares, we own them.

  Two Cents
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: SuperSoulFighter on October 30, 2007, 03:49:23 PM
I was unclear.  Kansas is good.  They are not "very good" (as in elite or Top 10).

No one outside of the top 5 is "elite" or "top 10 good" this year.

Maybe ku should play one of those teams.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: Skycat on October 30, 2007, 03:54:23 PM
Seriously though, why not run down Texas?

They've beaten one team with a winning record. (UCF)

They've been blown out at home by a team that's probably just a little above average. (us)

They've been in several close games with pretty lousy teams.

They're just not very good.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: michigancat on October 30, 2007, 03:58:45 PM
Seriously though, why not run down Texas?

They've beaten one team with a winning record. (UCF)

They've been blown out at home by a team that's probably just a little above average. (us)

They've been in several close games with pretty lousy teams.

They're just not very good.

They've won every game they're supposed to.  Who's ranked behind them that shouldn't be?
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: cireksu on October 30, 2007, 04:02:07 PM


No one outside of the top 5 is "elite" or "top 10 good" this year.
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qft
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: tmramrod91 on October 30, 2007, 04:03:46 PM
I just run down ku in hopes that they lose and ksu still has a chance at a north crown (<highly unlikely)
That and their fans are really annoying. :kugayfight:
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: Skycat on October 30, 2007, 04:12:25 PM

They've won every game they're supposed to.

41-21

Who's ranked behind them that shouldn't be?

Florida, Alabama, USF..........................................................KSU.

I'd even put OSU (despite Troy and UGA) and CU (despite FSU) right there with them.



Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: michigancat on October 30, 2007, 04:17:26 PM
USF?

The USF that lost to 5-4 Rutgers and UConn?

3 loss Florida, who lost at home to Auburn?

I can sort of see Bama, but still, lols.  You're reaching.  You just hate texas because you're down there.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: steve dave on October 30, 2007, 04:20:21 PM
USF?

The USF that lost to 5-4 Rutgers and UConn?

3 loss Florida, who lost at home to Auburn?

I can sort of see Bama, but still, lols.  You're reaching.  You just hate texas because you're down there.

I hope TX wins out.  I see your logic but I don't hope the same for ku.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: tmramrod91 on October 30, 2007, 04:20:36 PM

They've won every game they're supposed to.

41-21

Who's ranked behind them that shouldn't be?

Florida, Alabama, USF..........................................................KSU.

I'd even put OSU (despite Troy and UGA) and CU (despite FSU) right there with them.




SEC bias. The SEC is good...but not THAT good. UT would beat 'bama, and keep it close with UF
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: catzacker on October 30, 2007, 04:27:05 PM
UT is average, in the Big 12. Rank the Big 12 and put them into  fourths.  ku's in the top 3 in the conference, ut..not so much.

1st Tier
OU, MU, ku

2nd Tier
OSU,KSU, UT 

3rd Tier
CU, TT, A&M

4th Tier
NU, ISU, BU
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: chum1 on October 30, 2007, 04:30:33 PM
SEC teams would beat Big XII teams if all the teams from each conference were matched up against each other.  And its not just the SEC.  The Big XII is sorry.  All of its teams should be run down.  There are much better ways of deluding yourselves into thinking that we are better than we really are.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: mjrod on October 30, 2007, 04:31:02 PM
Why do KSU fans want to run down Texas and Kansas?

Personally, I like to think that KSU's only home loss was to a top 10 team, and that they beat a legit top 15 team on the road.  Am I alone?

???

I cannot believe you'd ask this question.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: Skycat on October 30, 2007, 04:40:56 PM
USF?

The USF that lost to 5-4 Rutgers and UConn?

3 loss Florida, who lost at home to Auburn?

I can sort of see Bama, but still, lols.  You're reaching.  You just hate texas because you're down there.

Texas hasn't beaten a single team on this list:

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/bcs (http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/bcs)

They've been in games in the final minutes with three teams not on that list (UCF, NU, and Arkansas St!!!), plus down by 10 at half to another very bad team (tcu).

They haven't beaten anyone near as good as that 5-4 Rutgers team, and I'd rank Auburn easily above Texas too. 

Their 0.0 score from the BCS computer rankings back me up as far as them being overrated, and those don't even take into account margin of victory.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: Skycat on October 30, 2007, 04:43:54 PM

They've won every game they're supposed to.

41-21

Who's ranked behind them that shouldn't be?

Florida, Alabama, USF..........................................................KSU.

I'd even put OSU (despite Troy and UGA) and CU (despite FSU) right there with them.




SEC bias. The SEC is good...but not THAT good. UT would beat 'bama, and keep it close with UF

Based on what?  Domination of ISU?  Being in tight games with NU, CFU, Arkansas St?
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: Newbie on October 30, 2007, 04:48:12 PM
Why do KSU fans want to run down Texas and Kansas?

Personally, I like to think that KSU's only home loss was to a top 10 team, and that they beat a legit top 15 team on the road.  Am I alone?

???

I give ku all the respect a 3-0 team deserves.  They are Top 25.  They have beaten three decent teams on the road (by 6, 5, and 8 points).  Their 101st-rated schedule makes it hard for me to believe they deserve more respect than that.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: SuperSoulFighter on October 30, 2007, 05:07:31 PM
ku is like a grinder in golf.  They can only hit their drives about 230 yards but their short game is very solid and they make par after par after par.  Nothing special.  Nothing spectacular.  They play to their ability.  They don't beat people, but they don't give anything away with mistakes.  They use excellent course management and they are extremely well coached.

I salute thier accomplishments, but Corey Pavin will never win a major unless he faces a choker like Greg Norman.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: cireksu on October 30, 2007, 05:10:39 PM
ku is solid,winning games is winning games, it is what it is, their schedule is keeping them out of National title consideration for the time being.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 30, 2007, 05:34:47 PM
I'd like for KSU to be 8-0.

I just find humor in other stuff about ku.  How some of their fans so easily brush aside other teams like ku has been beating the hell out of them for years and years, things like that.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: Dan Rydell on October 30, 2007, 06:05:41 PM
ku's a good team.  I think they'll wind up somewhere around 14-15 at the end of the year, which seems about right to me as I watch them and watch other top 25 teams play.  They deserve to be in the Top 10 right now, because they're 8-0.   

The Big XII North is definitely improved this year, but part of that is that the South isn't quite as good as it has been over the past 3 or 4 years.  Kind of a "meet in the middle" type thing.   I'd put the Big XII at about third among the conferences, behind the SEC and the Pac 10.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: fatty fat fat on October 30, 2007, 06:07:30 PM
ku is a big fat fraud.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: cireksu on October 30, 2007, 06:26:17 PM
ku is a big fat fraud.

LOL@ being 8-0 and not in National Title game conversation.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: HugeCat on October 30, 2007, 06:37:49 PM
ku's a good team.  I think they'll wind up somewhere around 14-15 at the end of the year, which seems about right to me as I watch them and watch other top 25 teams play.  They deserve to be in the Top 10 right now, because they're 8-0.   

The Big XII North is definitely improved this year, but part of that is that the South isn't quite as good as it has been over the past 3 or 4 years.  Kind of a "meet in the middle" type thing.   I'd put the Big XII at about third among the conferences, behind the SEC and the Pac 10.

Why couldn't the big 8/12 have sucked when we had some of our early mediocre teams. :banghead:
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: SuperSoulFighter on October 30, 2007, 06:43:03 PM
Why couldn't the big 8/12 have sucked when we had some of our early mediocre teams. :banghead:

It did.  Except for Nebraska.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: BMWJhawk on October 30, 2007, 06:44:16 PM
Question for those who say that Kansas isn't any good because they haven't beat a ranked team:

Is Texas better than K-State because they're ranked?
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: ArchE_Cat on October 30, 2007, 07:01:24 PM
alone as a loaner?  then yes.

Not just "alone as a loner," but also "pinpoint" as the NU passing attack in it's "signature win" against Texas.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: SuperSoulFighter on October 30, 2007, 07:12:03 PM
Question for those who say that Kansas isn't any good because they haven't beat a ranked team:

Is Texas better than K-State because they're ranked?

No.  They're overrated just like Kansas.

ku is better than Texas if that makes you feel better.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: SuperSoulFighter on October 30, 2007, 07:19:41 PM
And BTW.  We don't say that ku isn't great because you haven't beaten a ranked opponent.  We say you aren't great because we've watched a few of your games.  You're not great.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: HugeCat on October 30, 2007, 11:06:53 PM
Why couldn't the big 8/12 have sucked when we had some of our early mediocre teams. :banghead:

It did.  Except for Nebraska.

Colorado was pretty much unbeatable, untill we were really really good.  T-Tech was always tough, A&M was better than they are now, Missouri was stout.

The conference right now, coinciding with ku actually haveing a "decent" team is crap from top to bottom.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: KSUTOMMY on October 30, 2007, 11:11:42 PM
ku is mediocre - anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves. Beating teams that have GLARING deficiencies doesn't make a team great. Going to the wire against teams that have spotty defenses is pathetic. Every team that ku has a "signature" win against in the Big 12 has been flawed - ku has a good D and a offense that keeps it interesting. Beating teams that are rebuilding with 2nd year coaches and once successful teams with lame duck coaches is just what it should be... an 8-0 team looking in from the outside. Just because you are the Big 12 version of the undefeated Marshall team from a couple of years back screaming for respect means nothing.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: swish1 on October 30, 2007, 11:14:26 PM
what i dont understand is why we are making fun of ku for not playing anybody?  thats exactly what they need to be doing and its exactly what snyder did b/c he had too.  you think mangino would ever get that program off the ground if he had to play good teams?

all you have to do in order to get into the national title picture is go undefeated in the nonconference and win the big 12 championship.

that said i will root for ku to lose every single game, every single year.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: BMWJhawk on October 30, 2007, 11:25:46 PM
ku is mediocre - anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves. Beating teams that have GLARING deficiencies doesn't make a team great. Going to the wire against teams that have spotty defenses is pathetic. Every team that ku has a "signature" win against in the Big 12 has been flawed - ku has a good D and a offense that keeps it interesting. Beating teams that are rebuilding with 2nd year coaches and once successful teams with lame duck coaches is just what it should be... an 8-0 team looking in from the outside. Just because you are the Big 12 version of the undefeated Marshall team from a couple of years back screaming for respect means nothing.

I feel sorry for you.  You just can't admit to yourself that Kansas is good.  There aren't many teams in college football these days that don't have flaws.  Kansas went out and won three conference games on the road, in tough environments, and you're still not giving us any respect.  Obviously there's really nothing Kansas could do to earn your respect.  Not even a 30-24 win in Manhattan.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: chum1 on October 30, 2007, 11:33:33 PM
ku isn't any good because their players are $hit.  They'll never be able to beat anyone on a big stage.  Not that they'll ever get a chance to.  As they rightfully shouldn't.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: Bookcat on October 30, 2007, 11:36:11 PM
ku is mediocre - anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves. Beating teams that have GLARING deficiencies doesn't make a team great. Going to the wire against teams that have spotty defenses is pathetic. Every team that ku has a "signature" win against in the Big 12 has been flawed - ku has a good D and a offense that keeps it interesting. Beating teams that are rebuilding with 2nd year coaches and once successful teams with lame duck coaches is just what it should be... an 8-0 team looking in from the outside. Just because you are the Big 12 version of the undefeated Marshall team from a couple of years back screaming for respect means nothing.

I feel sorry for you.  You just can't admit to yourself that Kansas is good.  There aren't many teams in college football these days that don't have flaws.  Kansas went out and won three conference games on the road, in tough environments, and you're still not giving us any respect.  Obviously there's really nothing Kansas could do to earn your respect.  Not even a 30-24 win in Manhattan.

please validate US!!!! :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: BMWJhawk on October 30, 2007, 11:37:37 PM
Oh I think the #8 BCS ranking and the national television appearances have validated Kansas just fine, thanks.
Title: Re: Can someone explain this mentality?
Post by: chum1 on October 30, 2007, 11:41:47 PM
No one gives a $hit about your football team.  (Or your basketball team, for that matter.)  Pretty much all of the attention ku has received has been from people whose first priority is to make fun of Mangino's weight.