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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: ksuno1stunner on October 28, 2007, 02:51:39 PM
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Freeman:
126-197, 64%, 10.7 yards per completion, 1347 yards, 9 TD, 4 INT, 132.4 EFF
Reesing:
77-128, 60%, 10.2 yards per completion, 786 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT, 122.5 EFF
Bottom line:
Freeman continues to separate himself from Reesing.
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todd reesing is a very bad quarterback.
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Damn Reesing and that 8-0 record.
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Damn Reesing and that 8-0 record.
Defense.
In games other than Baylor, the offense has averaged 23 points.
Reesing is awful.
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Damn Reesing and that 8-0 record.
Defense.
In games other than Baylor, the offense has averaged 23 points.
Reesing is awful.
I thought the 267 yards and 3 tds against KSU were nice.
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Reesing is awful.
I agree with this.
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Damn Reesing and that 8-0 record.
Defense.
In games other than Baylor, the offense has averaged 23 points.
Reesing is awful.
I thought the 267 yards and 3 tds against KSU were nice.
Take out that game and it's really bad.
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I thought the 267 yards and 3 tds against KSU were nice.
worst game of the season defensively for KSU. Terrible performance.
ku's record is all about ku's defense which nobody here would deny is legit. The running game is solid though not overpowering.
Reesing doesn't do much unless it's Central Michigan or something.
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todd reesing is a very bad quarterback.
"vertical passing game" not so vertical any longer. Where have you gone Marcus Henry?
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You guys can have the better QB. I'll take the better team.
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Damn Reesing and that 8-0 record.
Defense.
In games other than Baylor, the offense has averaged 23 points.
Reesing is awful.
I thought the 267 yards and 3 tds against KSU were nice.
Take out that game and it's really bad.
Let me know which games I can take out and leave in.
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Let me know which games I can take out and leave in.
take out all OOC games, leave in conference games.
thx.
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Their running game looked pretty solid to me. Not spectacular. However, I did think McAnderson was a beast last night. Like he was running downhill.
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Let me know which games I can take out and leave in.
take out all OOC games, leave in conference games.
thx.
Stunner told me to take out the KSU game as well.
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If you take out the games ku won by more that 10 and the quarters in which Reesing threw touchdowns, and the long passes he looks pretty bad. I can't believe ku is undefeated with such a terrible quarterback. Someone should really let him know so they can start losing.
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todd reesing is a very bad quarterback.
And A very short one :D
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You guys can have the better QB. I'll take the better team.
Touche. Role reversal, ain't it a bitch...
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you people are pathetic. Why bring up another teams QB and compare his stats to yours? What are you trying to prove? That Freeman has better stats? Who cares?
ku will only get better under Reesing. Good luck in 2010.
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you people are pathetic.
Good luck in 2010.
Is there a stronger word than irony available to describe these simultaneous statements? Help?
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you people are pathetic.
Good luck in 2010.
Is there a stronger word than irony available to describe these simultaneous statements? Help?
Reesing is a sophmore. Do the math.
ku is going to beat KSU as long as Reesing is the QB for sure. Good Luck in 2010 when Kale Pick takes over.
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Reesing is a sophmore. Do the math.
You got me!
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I would agree Freeman is probablly the better QB, as he should be beings he was a starter last year. I also think Jordy helps Freeman's stats a little because he is flat out a stud.
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you people are pathetic.
Good luck in 2010.
Is there a stronger word than irony available to describe these simultaneous statements? Help?
Reesing is a sophmore. Do the math.
ku is going to beat KSU as long as Reesing is the QB for sure. Good Luck in 2010 when Kale Pick takes over.
At least our QB can see over the o-line
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you people are pathetic.
Good luck in 2010.
Is there a stronger word than irony available to describe these simultaneous statements? Help?
Reesing is a sophmore. Do the math.
ku is going to beat KSU as long as Reesing is the QB for sure. Good Luck in 2010 when Kale Pick takes over.
Since Reesing is the main reason for ku's success this year... oh wait...
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you people are pathetic.
Good luck in 2010.
Is there a stronger word than irony available to describe these simultaneous statements? Help?
Reesing is a sophmore. Do the math.
ku is going to beat KSU as long as Reesing is the QB for sure. Good Luck in 2010 when Kale Pick takes over.
Since Reesing is the main reason for ku's success this year... oh wait...
He's not great, but he's significantly more productive and stable at the QB position than a lot of other players. Yes, he's had some rough starts or a rough game in there, but Adam Barrman? I'll take a productive QB who can keep us in the game with a balanced running attack and a good defense over what we've had in the past.
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I will give Reesing one thing... that is a tough little S.O.B. he has taken some hits this year. I think that ku has topped out, or the offense would be getting better. That tells me one of two things - one - ku is satisfied at the production or two - the offense is getting figured out. I think that the good players will leave after this season, who wouldn't? Flash in the pan year - boosts the draft status (but not the height, Reesing will be back).
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I will give Reesing one thing... that is a tough little S.O.B. he has taken some hits this year. I think that ku has topped out, or the offense would be getting better. That tells me one of two things - one - ku is satisfied at the production or two - the offense is getting figured out. I think that the good players will leave after this season, who wouldn't? Flash in the pan year - boosts the draft status (but not the height, Reesing will be back).
The only player that would leave early from ku is Aquib Talib. The losses that they'll take will be McAnderson, Mcclinton, Talib (most likely) and I think that's it.. Rivera's only a junior, correct? I also forget what year Fine is.
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I will give Reesing one thing... that is a tough little S.O.B. he has taken some hits this year. I think that ku has topped out, or the offense would be getting better. That tells me one of two things - one - ku is satisfied at the production or two - the offense is getting figured out. I think that the good players will leave after this season, who wouldn't? Flash in the pan year - boosts the draft status (but not the height, Reesing will be back).
The only player that would leave early from ku is Aquib Talib. The losses that they'll take will be McAnderson, Mcclinton, Talib (most likely) and I think that's it.. Rivera's only a junior, correct? I also forget what year Fine is.
You're mostly correct. BTW, Fine is a senior. The only other player that I think has the option of leaving early would be our starting LT, Anthony Collins. He's around 6'5 315 and can really open up some holes for the running back. Other than that, Kansas should be in good shape next season and possibly even better.
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I will give Reesing one thing... that is a tough little S.O.B. he has taken some hits this year. I think that ku has topped out, or the offense would be getting better. That tells me one of two things - one - ku is satisfied at the production or two - the offense is getting figured out. I think that the good players will leave after this season, who wouldn't? Flash in the pan year - boosts the draft status (but not the height, Reesing will be back).
The only player that would leave early from ku is Aquib Talib. The losses that they'll take will be McAnderson, Mcclinton, Talib (most likely) and I think that's it.. Rivera's only a junior, correct? I also forget what year Fine is.
Fine, McAnderson, Marcus Henry, and I believe Cesar Rodriguez are all Seniors. On D we'll lose McClinton and Talib. As stated by BMW, we could very well lose Collins on the O-line as well.
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I will give Reesing one thing... that is a tough little S.O.B. he has taken some hits this year. I think that ku has topped out, or the offense would be getting better. That tells me one of two things - one - ku is satisfied at the production or two - the offense is getting figured out. I think that the good players will leave after this season, who wouldn't? Flash in the pan year - boosts the draft status (but not the height, Reesing will be back).
The only player that would leave early from ku is Aquib Talib. The losses that they'll take will be McAnderson, Mcclinton, Talib (most likely) and I think that's it.. Rivera's only a junior, correct? I also forget what year Fine is.
You're mostly correct. BTW, Fine is a senior. The only other player that I think has the option of leaving early would be our starting LT, Anthony Collins. He's around 6'5 315 and can really open up some holes for the running back. Other than that, Kansas should be in good shape next season and possibly even better.
Isn't Mcclinton pretty much the main reason their D is good this year? Without him I think they're D drops off considerably. Without him taking up 2 blockers and disrupting the run game, the makeup of their D is a lot different.Take out a lock down corner and thats a pretty big loss defensively. McAnderson is a huge part of their offense and losing him is a big time blow as well. Fine sucks and drops passes every time i watch him play. No dropoff there.
BTW, had to listen to the ku play by play, holy wow are they a bunch of FW(whiney)P. The sideline guy just whines about every call they dont get.
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I will give Reesing one thing... that is a tough little S.O.B. he has taken some hits this year. I think that ku has topped out, or the offense would be getting better. That tells me one of two things - one - ku is satisfied at the production or two - the offense is getting figured out. I think that the good players will leave after this season, who wouldn't? Flash in the pan year - boosts the draft status (but not the height, Reesing will be back).
The only player that would leave early from ku is Aquib Talib. The losses that they'll take will be McAnderson, Mcclinton, Talib (most likely) and I think that's it.. Rivera's only a junior, correct? I also forget what year Fine is.
You're mostly correct. BTW, Fine is a senior. The only other player that I think has the option of leaving early would be our starting LT, Anthony Collins. He's around 6'5 315 and can really open up some holes for the running back. Other than that, Kansas should be in good shape next season and possibly even better.
Isn't Mcclinton pretty much the main reason their D is good this year? Without him I think they're D drops off considerably. Without him taking up 2 blockers and disrupting the run game, the makeup of their D is a lot different.Take out a lock down corner and thats a pretty big loss defensively. McAnderson is a huge part of their offense and losing him is a big time blow as well. Fine sucks and drops passes every time i watch him play. No dropoff there.
BTW, had to listen to the ku play by play, holy wow are they a bunch of FW(whiney)P. The sideline guy just whines about every call they dont get.
he's not the main reason, but a big part of stopping the run, that's for sure. yeah my family listened to some of the game on the radio coming back from the game and it was pretty fracking annoying.
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I will give Reesing one thing... that is a tough little S.O.B. he has taken some hits this year. I think that ku has topped out, or the offense would be getting better. That tells me one of two things - one - ku is satisfied at the production or two - the offense is getting figured out. I think that the good players will leave after this season, who wouldn't? Flash in the pan year - boosts the draft status (but not the height, Reesing will be back).
The only player that would leave early from ku is Aquib Talib. The losses that they'll take will be McAnderson, Mcclinton, Talib (most likely) and I think that's it.. Rivera's only a junior, correct? I also forget what year Fine is.
You're mostly correct. BTW, Fine is a senior. The only other player that I think has the option of leaving early would be our starting LT, Anthony Collins. He's around 6'5 315 and can really open up some holes for the running back. Other than that, Kansas should be in good shape next season and possibly even better.
Isn't Mcclinton pretty much the main reason their D is good this year? Without him I think they're D drops off considerably. Without him taking up 2 blockers and disrupting the run game, the makeup of their D is a lot different.Take out a lock down corner and thats a pretty big loss defensively. McAnderson is a huge part of their offense and losing him is a big time blow as well. Fine sucks and drops passes every time i watch him play. No dropoff there.
BTW, had to listen to the ku play by play, holy wow are they a bunch of FW(whiney)P. The sideline guy just whines about every call they dont get.
Yeah, they will take a hit on the defensive side of the ball but what makes ku good is that they don't blow coverages/assignments and they make their tackles. They are sound all around with two or three guys that put them over the top defensively. While Talib does have a tendency to get burned sometimes, he also makes huge plays that not many cornerbacks could make. They don't have much turnover for next year so it will be interesting to see how they do with a much tougher schedule. I think they'll probably get to about eight wins next year.
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Their O-line is surprisingly amazing
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reesing is kind of like Trent Dilfer/Kerry Collins in the Super Bowl a few years ago. Not great. Just have to go out there and not suck.
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reesing is kind of like Trent Dilfer/Kerry Collins in the Super Bowl a few years ago. Not great. Just have to go out there and not suck.
Pretty much dead on. We have a dominating O-Line this year and a pair of very good backs. It makes me laugh to think of Hatter, before the season, describing Brandon McAnderson as a "fat toad of a fullback playing tailback."
The thing that has been best about Todd so far is that he's been nails when we've needed him. After KSU got the score the on the halfback pass to take the lead late in the game, Todd was perfect on the ensuing drive. He did the same thing against Colorado. They score on the fake fumble play, Todd marches the team right back down the field to take the lead.
He's a little too "sandlot" for me at this point, but I'm assuming that will go away with experience. Another consideration, when comparing statistics, is the fact that his receivers have dropped passes left and right this year. It's a real problem, and a prediction (a strong receiving corps) that many ku fans, including myself, missed on. Todd has been absolutely plagued by drops, but he's had his share of mistakes as well.
Freeman appears to be improving rapidly though. Looks like he's going to be a damned fine QB.
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Their O-line is surprisingly amazing
Their o-line has really helped make their young QB look good.
Reesing has a 5-7 second countdown to sack clock inside his head after every snap.
Freeman has a 2-3 second countdown to sack clock inside his head after every snap.
That's a world of difference right there. Imagine what Josh could do if he wasn't running for his life on every play because of the FP O-line we have.
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Good Luck in 2010 when Kale Pick takes over.
Apparently all you have to do to beat Kale Pick is line him up against Garden City.
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Meh, I think Freeman said it the best when he talked about how ku may not have the most athletic players, but how our guys don't blow their schemes.
Our defensive ends never once blew their scheme on A&M which made their option-based offense virtually non-existent. It's more about doing the right things than it is about being the best every snap.
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Freeman:
126-197, 64%, 10.7 yards per completion, 1347 yards, 9 TD, 4 INT, 132.4 EFF
Reesing:
77-128, 60%, 10.2 yards per completion, 786 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT, 122.5 EFF
Bottom line:
Freeman continues to separate himself from Reesing.
Honestly those stats are not that different. You have to take into account the fact that ku has more of a running game than KSU, which is directly reflected in the vast difference in passes attempted. When separated by less than 10 points in overall efficiency rating, how can you say one is separating himself from the other? My whole point is, stat lines dont tell the whole story.
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Freeman:
126-197, 64%, 10.7 yards per completion, 1347 yards, 9 TD, 4 INT, 132.4 EFF
Reesing:
77-128, 60%, 10.2 yards per completion, 786 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT, 122.5 EFF
Bottom line:
Freeman continues to separate himself from Reesing.
Honestly those stats are not that different. You have to take into account the fact that ku has more of a running game than KSU, which is directly reflected in the vast difference in passes attempted. When separated by less than 10 points in overall efficiency rating, how can you say one is separating himself from the other? My whole point is, stat lines dont tell the whole story.
Freeman is better. End of story.
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Freeman:
126-197, 64%, 10.7 yards per completion, 1347 yards, 9 TD, 4 INT, 132.4 EFF
Reesing:
77-128, 60%, 10.2 yards per completion, 786 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT, 122.5 EFF
Bottom line:
Freeman continues to separate himself from Reesing.
Honestly those stats are not that different. You have to take into account the fact that ku has more of a running game than KSU, which is directly reflected in the vast difference in passes attempted. When separated by less than 10 points in overall efficiency rating, how can you say one is separating himself from the other? My whole point is, stat lines dont tell the whole story.
Freeman is better. End of story.
Hes better simply because you say so? Im not swaying either way on which one i think is better. I simply stated that the statline that was posted doesnt really sway either way.
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Freeman:
126-197, 64%, 10.7 yards per completion, 1347 yards, 9 TD, 4 INT, 132.4 EFF
Reesing:
77-128, 60%, 10.2 yards per completion, 786 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT, 122.5 EFF
Bottom line:
Freeman continues to separate himself from Reesing.
Honestly those stats are not that different. You have to take into account the fact that ku has more of a running game than KSU, which is directly reflected in the vast difference in passes attempted. When separated by less than 10 points in overall efficiency rating, how can you say one is separating himself from the other? My whole point is, stat lines dont tell the whole story.
Freeman is better. End of story.
Hes better simply because you say so? Im not swaying either way on which one i think is better. I simply stated that the statline that was posted doesnt really sway either way.
The stats say so. Freeman has passed Reesing, and there's no turning back.
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Freeman:
126-197, 64%, 10.7 yards per completion, 1347 yards, 9 TD, 4 INT, 132.4 EFF
Reesing:
77-128, 60%, 10.2 yards per completion, 786 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT, 122.5 EFF
Bottom line:
Freeman continues to separate himself from Reesing.
Honestly those stats are not that different. You have to take into account the fact that ku has more of a running game than KSU, which is directly reflected in the vast difference in passes attempted. When separated by less than 10 points in overall efficiency rating, how can you say one is separating himself from the other? My whole point is, stat lines dont tell the whole story.
Freeman is better. End of story.
Hes better simply because you say so? Im not swaying either way on which one i think is better. I simply stated that the statline that was posted doesnt really sway either way.
The stats say so. Freeman has passed Reesing, and there's no turning back.
How do the stats say so? Freeman has attempted more passes than reesing because ksu's lack of a running game. Yards per completion, completion percentage and overall efficiency are very similiar. Thats not much of a case to claim one player has passed another.
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How many times have you heard on a national broadcast "Future NFL Star Josh Freeman"
....now, how many times have you heard "Future NFL Star Pee Wee Reesing"
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Freeman:
126-197, 64%, 10.7 yards per completion, 1347 yards, 9 TD, 4 INT, 132.4 EFF
Reesing:
77-128, 60%, 10.2 yards per completion, 786 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT, 122.5 EFF
Bottom line:
Freeman continues to separate himself from Reesing.
Honestly those stats are not that different. You have to take into account the fact that ku has more of a running game than KSU, which is directly reflected in the vast difference in passes attempted. When separated by less than 10 points in overall efficiency rating, how can you say one is separating himself from the other? My whole point is, stat lines dont tell the whole story.
Freeman is better. End of story.
Hes better simply because you say so? Im not swaying either way on which one i think is better. I simply stated that the statline that was posted doesnt really sway either way.
The stats say so. Freeman has passed Reesing, and there's no turning back.
How do the stats say so? Freeman has attempted more passes than reesing because ksu's lack of a running game. Yards per completion, completion percentage and overall efficiency are very similiar. Thats not much of a case to claim one player has passed another.
Just look at Freeman's face.
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Freeman has attempted more passes than reesing because ksu's lack of a running game.
141 yds/game is a lack of a running game? BTW..did you know James Johnson has only 50 fewer rushing yards than McAnderson and Sharp? and that is with JJ splitting carries with Leon Patton.
You were saying?
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Freeman:
126-197, 64%, 10.7 yards per completion, 1347 yards, 9 TD, 4 INT, 132.4 EFF
Reesing:
77-128, 60%, 10.2 yards per completion, 786 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT, 122.5 EFF
Bottom line:
Freeman continues to separate himself from Reesing.
Honestly those stats are not that different. You have to take into account the fact that ku has more of a running game than KSU, which is directly reflected in the vast difference in passes attempted. When separated by less than 10 points in overall efficiency rating, how can you say one is separating himself from the other? My whole point is, stat lines dont tell the whole story.
Freeman is better. End of story.
Hes better simply because you say so? Im not swaying either way on which one i think is better. I simply stated that the statline that was posted doesnt really sway either way.
The stats say so. Freeman has passed Reesing, and there's no turning back.
How do the stats say so? Freeman has attempted more passes than reesing because ksu's lack of a running game. Yards per completion, completion percentage and overall efficiency are very similiar. Thats not much of a case to claim one player has passed another.
Low FBIQ. :ustupid:
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Freeman has attempted more passes than reesing because ksu's lack of a running game.
141 yds/game is a lack of a running game? BTW..did you know James Johnson has only 50 fewer rushing yards than McAnderson and Sharp? and that is with JJ splitting carries with Leon Patton.
You were saying?
141 ypg rushing compared to kus 215? Id say that says a little bit about the difference between rushing and passing attempts.
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Freeman:
126-197, 64%, 10.7 yards per completion, 1347 yards, 9 TD, 4 INT, 132.4 EFF
Reesing:
77-128, 60%, 10.2 yards per completion, 786 yards, 6 TD, 3 INT, 122.5 EFF
Bottom line:
Freeman continues to separate himself from Reesing.
Honestly those stats are not that different. You have to take into account the fact that ku has more of a running game than KSU, which is directly reflected in the vast difference in passes attempted. When separated by less than 10 points in overall efficiency rating, how can you say one is separating himself from the other? My whole point is, stat lines dont tell the whole story.
Freeman is better. End of story.
Hes better simply because you say so? Im not swaying either way on which one i think is better. I simply stated that the statline that was posted doesnt really sway either way.
The stats say so. Freeman has passed Reesing, and there's no turning back.
How do the stats say so? Freeman has attempted more passes than reesing because ksu's lack of a running game. Yards per completion, completion percentage and overall efficiency are very similiar. Thats not much of a case to claim one player has passed another.
Low FBIQ. :ustupid:
/applauds at a well thought out post. How long did it take you to think that up? If your goin to counter me with something, make it worth reading. Good day.
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Low FBIQ. :ustupid:
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/applauds at a well thought out post. How long did it take you to think that up? If your goin to counter me with something, make it worth reading. Good day.
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:jerkoff:
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Freeman has attempted more passes than reesing because ksu's lack of a running game. Yards per completion, completion percentage and overall efficiency are very similiar.
define "similar"?
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Freeman has attempted more passes than reesing because ksu's lack of a running game.
141 yds/game is a lack of a running game? BTW..did you know James Johnson has only 50 fewer rushing yards than McAnderson and Sharp? and that is with JJ splitting carries with Leon Patton.
You were saying?
141 ypg rushing compared to kus 215? Id say that says a little bit about the difference between rushing and passing attempts.
More attempts..and Freeman still has a higher completion percentage. WOW! Reesing is a good QB...but he simply has a better defense behind him..hence 8-0. BTW>..the refs save you guys big time Saturday night by calling that obvious fumble an incomplete pass.
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Freeman has attempted more passes than reesing because ksu's lack of a running game.
141 yds/game is a lack of a running game? BTW..did you know James Johnson has only 50 fewer rushing yards than McAnderson and Sharp? and that is with JJ splitting carries with Leon Patton.
You were saying?
141 ypg rushing compared to kus 215? Id say that says a little bit about the difference between rushing and passing attempts.
More attempts..and Freeman still has a higher completion percentage. WOW! Reesing is a good QB...but he simply has a better defense behind him..hence 8-0. BTW>..the refs save you guys big time Saturday night by calling that obvious fumble an incomplete pass.
How about the blown facemask call that they missed? The officials were bad both ways. Also, that obvious fumble you refer to. An actual aggie fan posted the exact rule on their boards. It wasnt a fumble. Thats besides the point.
You speak like I am here to discount Freeman. Thats not the case at all. Im simply saying that the yards per completion are very similiar. The efficiency rating separates the 2 by less than 10 points. Never once did I say Freeman wasnt the better quarterback. I simply said that the stats dont support the theory that Freeman is separating himself from Reesing.
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It makes me laugh to think of Hatter, before the season, describing Brandon McAnderson as a "fat toad of a fullback playing tailback."
Is he not? That says nothing about whether he's a good blocker or banger as a runner. Do you think he's NFL or something? ku's RB's are solid but, like Cornish, they are not NFL caliber backs or anything. Everything ku does offensively is predicated on the OL and spread.
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It makes me laugh to think of Hatter, before the season, describing Brandon McAnderson as a "fat toad of a fullback playing tailback."
Is he not? That says nothing about whether he's a good blocker or banger as a runner. Do you think he's NFL or something? ku's RB's are solid but, like Cornish, they are not NFL caliber backs or anything. Everything ku does offensively is predicated on the OL and spread.
There are what, 119 d1 schools? Most college players dont make it in the nfl. Its no shock to say that ku's rbs arent nfl caliber. Honestly, what rb in the big 12 is nfl caliber? Thats the joy of the college game.
Also one quick note to your final comment. Everything every offense does is predicated on the OL. If your oline cant block, obviously your going to suck. That said, it does take some talent and vision to find the hole that your line does open. By no means does that make you nfl caliber, but at the same time it doesnt mean you lack talent.
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Freeman has attempted more passes than reesing because ksu's lack of a running game.
141 yds/game is a lack of a running game? BTW..did you know James Johnson has only 50 fewer rushing yards than McAnderson and Sharp? and that is with JJ splitting carries with Leon Patton.
You were saying?
So you're bragging that your leading rusher has fewer yards than both McAnderson and Sharp? McAnderson and Sharp also have more yards per carry.
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give the ku fans a break, they're just getting used to this new sport of football.
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On the subject of Freeman vs. Reesing, can you tell me which one is a semifinalist for the Davey O'Brien Award given to the best collegiate QB?
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On the subject of Freeman vs. Reesing, can you tell me which one is a semifinalist for the Davey O'Brien Award given to the best collegiate QB?
Semifinalists named for 2007 O'Brien Award
Fort Worth, TX (Sports Network) - Fifteen top signal callers from across college football were selected as semifinalists Monday for the Davey O'Brien Award, presented annually to the nation's best college quarterback.
Todd Boeckman of Ohio State; Sam Bradford from Oklahoma; Colt Brennan of Hawaii; Brian Brohm out of Louisville; Air Force's Shaun Carney; Rudy Carpenter of Arizona State; Chase Daniel from Missouri; Oregon's Dennis Dixon; Graham Harrell of Texas Tech; Corey Leonard from Arkansas State; Todd Reesing from Florida; BC's Matt Ryan; Tim Tebow of Florida; Pat White out of West Virginia and Kentucky's Andre Woodson got the preliminary nod.
At least they got Chase Daniels's school correct !
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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meh, that list is a joke. 12 of the 15 names have no shot at winning it. I have never understood why they have such a large list.
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HILARIOUS, even the award people dont take him seriously! :lol:
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HILARIOUS, even the award people dont take him seriously! :lol:
As opposed to ignoring Freeman. :)
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HILARIOUS, even the award people dont take him seriously! :lol:
I dont think an error by the person who handled the release exactly equates into a snub by the committee that chose him...
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HILARIOUS, even the award people dont take him seriously! :lol:
As opposed to ignoring Freeman. :)
We'll see where they end up :thumbsup:!
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HILARIOUS, even the award people dont take him seriously! :lol:
As opposed to ignoring Freeman. :)
We'll see where they end up :thumbsup:!
I'd rather see where their respective teams end up.
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I guess I was thinking since it was QB award it was and individual honor not a team honor. But hey, Davey O Brien was probably a team not an individual, right? :lol: But you're right, his team's success is the only reason he's on the list. Nice gesture by the committee. :popcorn:
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It makes me laugh to think of Hatter, before the season, describing Brandon McAnderson as a "fat toad of a fullback playing tailback."
Is he not? That says nothing about whether he's a good blocker or banger as a runner. Do you think he's NFL or something? ku's RB's are solid but, like Cornish, they are not NFL caliber backs or anything. Everything ku does offensively is predicated on the OL and spread.
I'd be willing to bet that Brandon McAnderson will at least get a shot in the league as a fullback. He's proving that he's versatile enough to carry the ball on the rare occasions that an NFL fullback needs to, and he's always been an outstanding blocker. Even if he weren't, however...who gives a sh*t? Thomas Clayton got a shot at the NFL while Jon Cornish did not. Which would you have rather had in purple over the last two seasons?
Any answer other than "Jon Cornish" is a blatant lie.
Regardless, McAnderson is hardly a prototypical banger, which is something the A&M game alone proved. He's not Brian Leonard or anything, but for someone who weighs 245 pounds he's very quick, has decent speed, and excellent field vision. He's surprised a lot of people, including Kansas fans, with his ability to carry the football.
Are you really going to try and tell me that when you called B-Mac a "fat toad of a fullback playing tailback," you thought he could still be an effective ball carrier? That it was nothing more than a comment on his appearance?
Please. You thought he was going to suck. Just like you thought the O-Line was going to suck, that Jake Sharp would suck...blah, blah, blah.
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I could run behind ku's line.
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It makes me laugh to think of Hatter, before the season, describing Brandon McAnderson as a "fat toad of a fullback playing tailback."
Is he not? That says nothing about whether he's a good blocker or banger as a runner. Do you think he's NFL or something? ku's RB's are solid but, like Cornish, they are not NFL caliber backs or anything. Everything ku does offensively is predicated on the OL and spread.
I'd be willing to bet that Brandon McAnderson will at least get a shot in the league as a fullback. He's proving that he's versatile enough to carry the ball on the rare occasions that an NFL fullback needs to, and he's always been an outstanding blocker. Even if he weren't, however...who gives a sh*t? Thomas Clayton got a shot at the NFL while Jon Cornish did not. Which would you have rather had in purple over the last two seasons?
Any answer other than "Jon Cornish" is a blatant lie.
Regardless, McAnderson is hardly a prototypical banger, which is something the A&M game alone proved. He's not Brian Leonard or anything, but for someone who weighs 245 pounds he's very quick, has decent speed, and excellent field vision. He's surprised a lot of people, including Kansas fans, with his ability to carry the football.
Are you really going to try and tell me that when you called B-Mac a "fat toad of a fullback playing tailback," you thought he could still be an effective ball carrier? That it was nothing more than a comment on his appearance?
Please. You thought he was going to suck. Just like you thought the O-Line was going to suck, that Jake Sharp would suck...blah, blah, blah.
I've been very complimentary on AD Mayes...definitely a stud!
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Josh Freeman is the bigger, taller, more traditional and ideal QB. Todd Reesing is a born leader who will find a way to win and wont let any defense get in his way when its crunch time. When we pulled his redshirt last year we were on a 4 game losing streak, since then we are 11-1. Freeman is steadily improving, but no way would I ever trade Reesing for him.
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http://cfn.scout.com/2/696087.html
Start buying shares in …Kansas State QB Josh Freeman. The game has really begun to slow down for the talented sophomore, who has accounted for eight touchdowns over the last two games. As Freeman gets asked to do more within the offense, he continues to deliver, a sweet sign for the program over the next two seasons.
You would be foolish to take Reesing over a potential first round NFL draft pick at quarterback. Reesing is in an offense that makes it easy for a quarterback to have success. Great pass protection and a very good running game. Freeman doesn't have that right now(hence short passes to sub as running game). The only thing he has is better wide receivers but that isn't as important. Put Freeman in ku's offense and he would put up much better numbers because of the protection and running game, two of a quarterback's favorite things. Reesing is a fine QB but not nearly as good as Freeman if put in the same offensive situation.
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EDITED (conference only stats:)
Keep in mind Freeman has played in one more game.
Freeman:
154-241, 64.3%, 1694 yards, 10 TD, 5 INT, 111 EFF, 3 wins, 3 losses
Reesing:
107-169, 63.3%, 1140 yards, 12 TD, 3 INT, 136 EFF, 5 wins, 0 losses
The only 3 big differences between these two qbs otherwise pretty similar numbers....
1) Height
2) Touchdown/Interception ratio
3) Winning Percentage
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We still have yet to play Nebraska!
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We still have yet to play Nebraska!
We still have yet to play Iowa State!
Nebraska 35 Iowa State 17
Todd Reesing for Governor in 2010!
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todd reesing is a fag.
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todd reesing is a fag.
At least he's a great faggy QB!
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todd reesing is a fag.
At least he's a great faggy QB!
great? not so much, well at least not yet. reesing really doesn't have to make a lot of tough throws, ku has a good offensive scheme, kinda like mizzou, you know, the spread pussy sh*t.
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todd reesing is a fag.
At least he's a great faggy QB!
great? not so much, well at least not yet. reesing really doesn't have to make a lot of tough throws, ku has a good offensive scheme, kinda like mizzou, you know, the spread pussy sh*t.
LOL
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todd reesing is a fag.
At least he's a great faggy QB!
great? not so much, well at least not yet. reesing really doesn't have to make a lot of tough throws, ku has a good offensive scheme, kinda like mizzou, you know, the spread pussy sh*t.
LOL
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todd reesing is a fag.
At least he's a great faggy QB!
great? not so much, well at least not yet. reesing really doesn't have to make a lot of tough throws, ku has a good offensive scheme, kinda like mizzou, you know, the spread pussy sh*t.
I wasn't using great in the timeless sense, more so as a jab at you. He's not great except for running the offense and making pretty decent decisions. He doesn't make the best one all the time, but he's been pretty good at running the offense without giving up turnovers which is something that is pretty damn nice. :D
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todd reesing is a fag.
At least he's a great faggy QB!
great? not so much, well at least not yet. reesing really doesn't have to make a lot of tough throws, ku has a good offensive scheme, kinda like mizzou, you know, the spread pussy sh*t.
I wasn't using great in the timeless sense, more so as a jab at you. He's not great except for running the offense and making pretty decent decisions. He doesn't make the best one all the time, but he's been pretty good at running the offense without giving up turnovers which is something that is pretty damn nice. :D
that's all a spread offense QB has to do, and he's doing fine. all i got to say is once defenses start to find ways to stop the spread just like teams found a way to stop the option, this will happen crap hitting fan