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Title: What Happen to Jackson?
Post by: yadig? on October 24, 2007, 11:45:09 AM
Rob Jackson was all the hype before the season...and thus far he hasn't really been a huge factor?
Title: Re: What Happen to Jackson?
Post by: cireksu on October 24, 2007, 11:57:22 AM
he gets double teamed every snap this year because we only have 3 down linemen.
Title: Re: What Happen to Jackson?
Post by: Bullfn33 on October 24, 2007, 11:58:19 AM
Quote from: cireksu on October 24, 2007, 11:57:22 AM
he gets double teamed every snap this year because we only have 3 down linemen.
Title: Re: What Happen to Jackson?
Post by: ew2x4 on October 24, 2007, 12:02:38 PM
Quote from: Bullfn33 on October 24, 2007, 11:58:19 AM
Quote from: cireksu on October 24, 2007, 11:57:22 AM
he gets double teamed every snap this year because we only have 3 down linemen.
Title: Re: What Happen to Jackson?
Post by: ksu_FAN on October 24, 2007, 12:05:13 PM
Quote from: yadig? on October 24, 2007, 11:45:09 AM
Rob Jackson was all the hype before the season...and thus far he hasn't really been a huge factor?

The transition from playing a 5-tech (outside shoulder of a OT) or a 8 or 9 tech (head up or outside shoulder of a TE) to a 4 tech (head up on the OT or a half a gap over to either side) can be a tough one.  As circ said he's getting doubled almost every play where he rarely got doubled in the past, and if he did it was often with a back and TE, not a OT and TE or even OG and OT.  That's a tough switch and we shouldn't be surprised with some of our struggles up front.
Title: Re: What Happen to Jackson?
Post by: SUPERKSUFAN on October 24, 2007, 12:12:39 PM
the more important question - What happened to Mike Abana
Title: Re: What Happen to Jackson?
Post by: ksu_FAN on October 24, 2007, 12:16:22 PM
Quote from: SUPERKSUFAN on October 24, 2007, 12:12:39 PM
the more important question - What happened to Mike Abana

He's showing that no matter how freakish the skills, you never know what will happen when you take a chance on a guy that only has played football for a handful of years and you should expect a slow transition to playing at this level.  Still, I think he can develop and will be a contributor next year. 
Title: Re: What Happen to Jackson?
Post by: steve dave on October 24, 2007, 12:25:20 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on October 24, 2007, 12:16:22 PM
Quote from: SUPERKSUFAN on October 24, 2007, 12:12:39 PM
the more important question - What happened to Mike Abana

He's showing that no matter how freakish the skills, you never know what will happen when you take a chance on a guy that only has played football for a handful of years and you should expect a slow transition to playing at this level.  Still, I think he can develop and will be a contributor next year. 

Could be next year's Moses Manu
Title: Re: What Happen to Jackson?
Post by: catzacker on October 24, 2007, 12:27:08 PM
Quote from: steve dave on October 24, 2007, 12:25:20 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on October 24, 2007, 12:16:22 PM
Quote from: SUPERKSUFAN on October 24, 2007, 12:12:39 PM
the more important question - What happened to Mike Abana

He's showing that no matter how freakish the skills, you never know what will happen when you take a chance on a guy that only has played football for a handful of years and you should expect a slow transition to playing at this level.  Still, I think he can develop and will be a contributor next year. 

Could be next year's Moses Manu

lol
Title: Re: What Happen to Jackson?
Post by: cireksu on October 24, 2007, 12:38:25 PM
It is incredible how absolutely terrible, our dline recruiting has been for a sustained period of time.  Think about how manycommitts we've lost since 03 or so. add that to flameouts and just plain busts.  Rob Jackson and Ian Cambell are by far the best dlinemen we've had (Echols too last year I guess) since 02 or 03.  it really is stupifying to think about.
Title: Re: What Happen to Jackson?
Post by: catzacker on October 24, 2007, 01:26:31 PM
DL/DT (suckage)recruits:
02:
K. Huntley -   :blank:
J. Berry -  :)
A. Bulman -  :lol:
Q. Echols -  :)

03:
M. Latimore -  :lol:
A. Moran -  :blank:
M. Wooldridge -  :lol: :lol: (double lol's cause he sucked at OL and DL)

04:
V. Faustin -  :blank:
T. George -  :blank: (thanks for the facemask @ NU in '05 to lose the game)
J. Bedore - moved to OL
I. Campbell -  :love: (but 3-4 is taking away his rush, imo)

05:
R. Miller -  :lol:  (never made it)
B. Rees -  :lol: (never made it)
S. Burch -  :blank:
W. Williams -  :lol: (never made it)

06:
R. Jackson -  :love: (see Ian)
M. Manu -  :)
B. Balkom -  :blank:
G. Crews -  :blank:
Z. Kendall - (moved to OL )
T. Viers - (moved to OL)

07:
R. Guidry -  :blank:
P. Kirk -  :blank: (future  :lol: )
M. Abana -  :blank:
X. Stewart -  :blank:
Title: Re: What Happen to Jackson?
Post by: The Manhatter on October 24, 2007, 02:03:31 PM
Quote from: yadig? on October 24, 2007, 11:45:09 AM
Rob Jackson was all the hype before the season...and thus far he hasn't really been a huge factor?

nothing.  It's called being a 3-4 DE.  It's more about gap control than just rushing the passer as he did in the 4-3.  More concern for the (gulp) running game.

I would suspect he might get some more sacks in the coming weeks as we go from more ground oriented offensive attacks to more pass happy although most are short passing games.

Title: Re: What Happen to Jackson?
Post by: KSUBrad on October 24, 2007, 08:31:39 PM
What happened with Vlad?  I thought he was supposed to have some potential too.
Title: Re: What Happen to Jackson?
Post by: dlew12 on October 24, 2007, 10:40:01 PM
What happened to David Dixon?
Title: Re: What Happen to Jackson?
Post by: cyclist on October 25, 2007, 07:37:28 AM
Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio ?
Title: Re: What Happen to Jackson?
Post by: Bookie Pimp on October 25, 2007, 08:20:35 AM
Quote from: cyclist on October 25, 2007, 07:37:28 AM
Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio ?

I'm pretty sure he's at the big "three-way in the sky" with JFK and Marilyn Monroe....


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Title: Re: What Happen to Jackson?
Post by: scoopeloo on October 25, 2007, 08:27:00 AM
they say that defensive line recruiting is the most competitive in all recruiting.  It separates the men from the boys.  KSU will not take the next step until they recruit these positions better.  So far Prince has not shown me enough ability in recruiting to feel confident that he can drastically improve this team from where they are now.  I'm concerned because I would think that we would have seen at least flashes of some defensive line recruiting prowess.  I still believe the team's improvement is going to take several years and may not be consistent, but more back and forth.  apparently, we don't have a killer recruiter on the defensive side of the ball.  I'd look at changing that.
Title: Re: What Happen to Jackson?
Post by: cyclist on October 25, 2007, 11:15:17 AM
Quote from: Bookie Pimp on October 25, 2007, 08:20:35 AM
Quote from: cyclist on October 25, 2007, 07:37:28 AM
Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio ?

I'm pretty sure he's at the big "three-way in the sky" with JFK and Marilyn Monroe....


 :tongue:

Joltin' Joe, Jack and Norma Jean...

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