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Title: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: Bookcat on October 22, 2007, 03:37:15 PM
until then, it's showing more and more than ever that even as we near November...ku has yet to play a team that anyone could consider good. That includes us at 4-3.

@A&M, MIzzou in Arrowhead....there is their season. It was a quick one wasn't it?


Which harkens back to the criticsm we still face to this DAY after we pimp our 8-0 conference record from 1998. The Big 12 was "down" that year and that we didn't play the conference heavyweights on our way to the Conference Division Championship, choked, and got booted out of the clique.

add in a weak OOC schedule..and I'll be gotdamned if the Jayhawks are the decade later version of the Kstate wildcats. Difference being they are on the winning side this time. They'll lose late in the year to someone good and tumble from relevancy. Bump this either way when the time comes.
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: fatty fat fat on October 22, 2007, 03:39:43 PM
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Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: BMWJhawk on October 22, 2007, 03:45:38 PM
First it was ku has to beat K-State in Manhattan to be legit.

Then it was ku has to win at Colorado to be legit.

Now, it's ku has to go undefeated by winning at A&M and Mizzou to be legit?

LOL.

Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: Bookcat on October 22, 2007, 03:47:27 PM
First it was ku has to beat K-State in Manhattan to be legit.

Then it was ku has to win at Colorado to be legit.

Now, it's ku has to go undefeated by winning at A&M and Mizzou to be legit?

LOL.

I didn't say undefeated...but you better hope that is what happens or ku will be dropped like a safe. That's the point.
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: yosh on October 22, 2007, 03:48:42 PM
ku has done enough to prove to me that they are a legit top 20 team. 
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on October 22, 2007, 04:05:35 PM
This is a Keitzman like tactic.

Once your hated opponent/rival has exceeded initial expectations one must then raise expectations for that team far beyond any logical explanation. This does two things:
1. If the opponent does meet these goals the poster can then claim that they did what they should have been able to do. The poster 'called it.'
2. If the opponent does not meet these goals the poster can then rip them for not meeting the lofty goals and supposedly 'underachieving.'

Flawless plan.
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: Legore on October 22, 2007, 04:16:46 PM
First it was ku has to beat K-State in Manhattan to be legit.

Then it was ku has to win at Colorado to be legit.

Now, it's ku has to go undefeated by winning at A&M and Mizzou to be legit?

LOL.



If ku beats A&M they are officially legit in my eyes.  Beating CU doesn't make you legit because CU isn't very good.   Beating KSU didn't make ku legit either because it lined up perfectly on the scheudle for ku and KSU while better then CU isn't all that good and played like crap that day.

IF ku goes into A&M the week after a semi tough road games vs. CU and pulls out a win against a solid A&M team in a very tough venue then I'll give them props.   It will take a legit top 25 team to win down there.   

Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: hemmy on October 22, 2007, 04:43:40 PM
until then, it's showing more and more than ever that even as we near November...ku has yet to play a team that anyone could consider good. That includes us at 4-3.

@A&M, MIzzou in Arrowhead....there is their season. It was a quick one wasn't it?


Which harkens back to the criticsm we still face to this DAY after we pimp our 8-0 conference record from 1998. The Big 12 was "down" that year and that we didn't play the conference heavyweights on our way to the Conference Division Championship, choked, and got booted out of the clique.

add in a weak OOC schedule..and I'll be gotdamned if the Jayhawks are the decade later version of the Kstate wildcats. Difference being they are on the winning side this time. They'll lose late in the year to someone good and tumble from relevancy. Bump this either way when the time comes.

Except the fact that the '98 KSU team and this ku team are only comparable in record thus far.

A game btwn the 2 wouldn't even be close
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: pissclams on October 22, 2007, 04:44:34 PM
This is a Keitzman like tactic.

Once your hated opponent/rival has exceeded initial expectations one must then raise expectations for that team far beyond any logical explanation. This does two things:
1. If the opponent does meet these goals the poster can then claim that they did what they should have been able to do. The poster 'called it.'
2. If the opponent does not meet these goals the poster can then rip them for not meeting the lofty goals and supposedly 'underachieving.'

Flawless plan.
you need to start listening to KK more if you think he's that bush league. his tactix are much sharper and trained than you give him credit for.
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: fatty fat fat on October 22, 2007, 04:45:36 PM
KK - "ku basketball this year should not lose a single regular season game. If they do, you've got to start questioning some people starting at the top..." BTL rolls along...
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2007, 04:51:55 PM
The great thing about the Phog's strict attention to Keitzman's show is that I know exactly when I should tune in . . . I'd like to thank the phog for this public service.
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on October 22, 2007, 04:53:17 PM
This is a Keitzman like tactic.

Once your hated opponent/rival has exceeded initial expectations one must then raise expectations for that team far beyond any logical explanation. This does two things:
1. If the opponent does meet these goals the poster can then claim that they did what they should have been able to do. The poster 'called it.'
2. If the opponent does not meet these goals the poster can then rip them for not meeting the lofty goals and supposedly 'underachieving.'

Flawless plan.
you need to start listening to KK more if you think he's that bush league. his tactix are much sharper and trained than you give him credit for.

I don't listen to him that often. But everytime I have tuned in he is indeed that bush league.

Fatty provides a good example actually. Its a simple tactic that he employs over and over again everytime.
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: The Whale on October 22, 2007, 04:53:25 PM
First it was ku has to beat K-State in Manhattan to be legit.

Then it was ku has to win at Colorado to be legit.

Now, it's ku has to go undefeated by winning at A&M and Mizzou to be legit?

LOL.



There would be no question about ku's legitimacy had Mangino not gotten the MU game moved to the end of the season.  ku would've played MU then @KSU on back to back weeks.  Win those two, and there wouldn't be many doubters. 

Moving the game turned out to be a brilliant move though because ku has an excellent chance of going into MU unscathed while playing only one team near the top-25 (and they had a bye week to prepare for that team). 
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: catzacker on October 22, 2007, 04:56:43 PM
This is a Keitzman like tactic.

Once your hated opponent/rival has exceeded initial expectations one must then raise expectations for that team far beyond any logical explanation. This does two things:
1. If the opponent does meet these goals the poster can then claim that they did what they should have been able to do. The poster 'called it.'
2. If the opponent does not meet these goals the poster can then rip them for not meeting the lofty goals and supposedly 'underachieving.'

Flawless plan.

ku fans can't claim to want respect and then not take the things that go along with it. If ku doesn't win the North it will be an incredible choke job.  ku has 5 games left (one of which would be against a currently ranked team)....2 home (ISU and NU), 2 away (A&M, OSU), 1 nuetral (MU).  All they have to do is win 3 games, one of which has to be MU.  And that's assuming MU doesn't lose another game.  That's it.  Seriously, it's a choke job if ku doesn't go to the Big 12 CCG.  
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on October 22, 2007, 05:01:24 PM
This is a Keitzman like tactic.

Once your hated opponent/rival has exceeded initial expectations one must then raise expectations for that team far beyond any logical explanation. This does two things:
1. If the opponent does meet these goals the poster can then claim that they did what they should have been able to do. The poster 'called it.'
2. If the opponent does not meet these goals the poster can then rip them for not meeting the lofty goals and supposedly 'underachieving.'

Flawless plan.
Seriously, it's a choke job if ku doesn't go to the Big 12 CCG. 

If anyone had said that before the start of the season they'd be laughed off the internet. It would be disappointing, but hardly a choke job. If Missouri wasn't any good than I could see your point but I can't right now.

Btw, if Ksu doesn't win out its a total choke job. All easy teams with anything remotely difficult being in Manhattan. Yeah, Prince should seek a new position elsewhere if he can't even pull this off.  :rolleyes: :D
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: catzacker on October 22, 2007, 05:05:45 PM
KSU's a 3 loss team.  We suck. 
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2007, 05:07:41 PM
So MU is only "remotely difficult" . . . so I should pick ku and give  24 points for the ku-MU game??

Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on October 22, 2007, 05:09:35 PM
So MU is only "remotely difficult" . . . so I should pick ku and give  24 points for the ku-MU game??



I was being sarcastic.
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2007, 05:14:06 PM
So MU is only "remotely difficult" . . . so I should pick ku and give  24 points for the ku-MU game??



I was being sarcastic.

Oh, you've been gone so long I forgot about your "sarcastic" posting style.   ku is 7-0 and the ku "fans" are coming out of the woodwork, kind of reminds of me of the early 80's when a ku or "beak'm hawks" shirt couldn't be found anywhere in ku alumni riddled Johnson County, cue Larry Brown and suddenly the ku shirts and "beak'm hawks" shirts were all over the place.
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on October 22, 2007, 05:18:45 PM
So MU is only "remotely difficult" . . . so I should pick ku and give  24 points for the ku-MU game??



I was being sarcastic.

Oh, you've been gone so long I forgot about your "sarcastic" posting style.   ku is 7-0 and the ku "fans" are coming out of the woodwork, kind of reminds of me of the early 80's when a ku or "beak'm hawks" shirt couldn't be found anywhere in ku alumni riddled Johnson County, cue Larry Brown and suddenly the ku shirts and "beak'm hawks" shirts were all over the place.

Ksu basketball fans.

Your move.
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 22, 2007, 05:23:23 PM
So MU is only "remotely difficult" . . . so I should pick ku and give  24 points for the ku-MU game??



I was being sarcastic.

Oh, you've been gone so long I forgot about your "sarcastic" posting style.   ku is 7-0 and the ku "fans" are coming out of the woodwork, kind of reminds of me of the early 80's when a ku or "beak'm hawks" shirt couldn't be found anywhere in ku alumni riddled Johnson County, cue Larry Brown and suddenly the ku shirts and "beak'm hawks" shirts were all over the place.

Ksu basketball fans.

Your move.

KSU averaged over 10,000 a game for conference games with Jim Wooldridge on the bench, at one point average attendance at ku dropped to under 9,000 a game just two years after winning the conference and going to the NCAA tourney. 
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: Wickedson on October 22, 2007, 06:23:04 PM
Ya'll, ku is going to beat Missouri.  Tellin you this, enough....
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: Sandman on October 22, 2007, 07:33:30 PM
So MU is only "remotely difficult" . . . so I should pick ku and give  24 points for the ku-MU game??



I was being sarcastic.

Oh, you've been gone so long I forgot about your "sarcastic" posting style.   ku is 7-0 and the ku "fans" are coming out of the woodwork, kind of reminds of me of the early 80's when a ku or "beak'm hawks" shirt couldn't be found anywhere in ku alumni riddled Johnson County, cue Larry Brown and suddenly the ku shirts and "beak'm hawks" shirts were all over the place.

I remember the legions of KSU fans selling out all the home football games before Snyder arrived.  Hell, you could never find a ticket.
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: KSUTOMMY on October 22, 2007, 07:51:36 PM
I dont care if ku does win out, I dont think that they will beat MU though - and here is my newsflash... THEY AREN'T LEGIT! Proof, well, I dont think that I need to discuss the ease of which they get to tip toe through the Big 12 tulips this year, along with all the good points on this thread but specifically the piece about MU at the end of the year. Please Squaks, dont come to me with the Reesing for Heisman crap, Antwon Randle El was about a thousand times better than Reesing and he was on a $hitty team, ergo - no Heisman. Oh, remember when Marshall went undefeated a couple of years back? Yeah, to me, that is what ku is right now - Marshall of 2007, but due to the fact that you are in the Big 12 you finally did crack the top 10 7 GAMES INTO THE SEASON! Enough about being "back" because truth be told, you can never be BACK to somewhere you have never been. Enjoy the ferris wheel kiddies, I prefer roller coasters.
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: Sandman on October 22, 2007, 08:04:50 PM
I dont care if ku does win out, I dont think that they will beat MU though - and here is my newsflash... THEY AREN'T LEGIT! Proof, well, I dont think that I need to discuss the ease of which they get to tip toe through the Big 12 tulips this year, along with all the good points on this thread but specifically the piece about MU at the end of the year. Please Squaks, dont come to me with the Reesing for Heisman crap, Antwon Randle El was about a thousand times better than Reesing and he was on a $hitty team, ergo - no Heisman. Oh, remember when Marshall went undefeated a couple of years back? Yeah, to me, that is what ku is right now - Marshall of 2007, but due to the fact that you are in the Big 12 you finally did crack the top 10 7 GAMES INTO THE SEASON! Enough about being "back" because truth be told, you can never be BACK to somewhere you have never been. Enjoy the ferris wheel kiddies, I prefer roller coasters.

When has anyone said ku's back?  And yes, ku's just like Marshall.  You're not taking this well, are you?
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: KSUTOMMY on October 22, 2007, 08:09:49 PM
Oh, I really couldn't give a $hit less... I just find it amusing that even the announcers are calling yoK S Utate! Also, I just like to point out things to show how moronic it is to have ku fans think that they are doing something this year.
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: Sandman on October 22, 2007, 08:19:29 PM
Oh, I really couldn't give a $hit less... I just find it amusing that even the announcers are calling yoK S Utate! Also, I just like to point out things to show how moronic it is to have ku fans think that they are doing something this year.

I know.  Number 9 in the BCS is so stupid. 
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: GoldbrickGangBoss on October 22, 2007, 09:00:41 PM
I dont care if ku does win out, I dont think that they will beat MU though - and here is my newsflash... THEY AREN'T LEGIT! Proof, well, I dont think have any.

Fixed.
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: pissclams on October 22, 2007, 09:12:01 PM
Oh, I really couldn't give a $hit less... I just find it amusing that even the announcers are calling yoK S Utate! Also, I just like to point out things to show how moronic it is to have ku fans think that they are doing something this year.

I know.  Number 9 in the BCS is so stupid. 
boasting about your #9 bcs ranking going into week 8 of a 12/13/14 week season is too.   hth.
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: scoopeloo on October 22, 2007, 09:39:03 PM
Here's the deal with ku.  ku will very likely go through an entire regular season and only play one team in the top 20.  And they will more than likely LOSE to the only top 20 team that they play.  Is that an accomplishment?  Yes.  An improvement?  Yes.  Are they better than KSU?  Probably.  But I have a hard time being that impressed when their schedule looks like Hawaii's.  It's not their fault that the Big 12 sucks and they missed OU and UT.  But I'll look forward to them hopefully playing a really good team in their bowl game.  Of course, that game will mean nothing to whoever they play.  Can you imagine how excited USC will be if they get matched with ku in the Holiday Bowl?
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: waks on October 22, 2007, 09:57:55 PM
Isn't ku a lot like Mizzou of last year?
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: Sandman on October 22, 2007, 09:58:26 PM
Here's the deal with ku.  ku will very likely go through an entire regular season and only play one team in the top 20.  And they will more than likely LOSE to the only top 20 team that they play.  Is that an accomplishment?  Yes.  An improvement?  Yes.  Are they better than KSU?  Probably.  But I have a hard time being that impressed when their schedule looks like Hawaii's.  It's not their fault that the Big 12 sucks and they missed OU and UT.  But I'll look forward to them hopefully playing a really good team in their bowl game.  Of course, that game will mean nothing to whoever they play.  Can you imagine how excited USC will be if they get matched with ku in the Holiday Bowl?

So Hawaii's playing KSU, CU, ATM, and OSU on the road and Mizzou at a neutral site?  And I'd be excited to play USC.  I think we're a little better than Stanford.
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: pufizzle on October 22, 2007, 10:01:53 PM
USC would rip ku apart FWIW
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: CatsNChiefs on October 22, 2007, 10:30:24 PM
Um, ku's pretty good, I don't get what the big deal is.  Hell, if they lose their three remaining tough games and go what, 9-3, they're still pretty good.  Oh well, if they make a BCS game it'll affect ku vs. KSU recruiting a little, if they just go to a good bowl it will have a limited affect for the time being as far as KSU is concerned.  At least that's my casual opinion.
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: ew2x4 on October 22, 2007, 11:08:59 PM
I wonder how '02 or '98 KSU would fair the past couple of years.... Well, I try not to wonder, because I know the answer...

 :bawl:
Title: Re: If ku wins @ A&M, @ Ostate, and against MIzzou they are legit...
Post by: KSUTOMMY on October 23, 2007, 11:34:03 AM
USC is one of my most despised team EVER, but one thing they can do is prepare for a team. Sure, they lost to Stanford - if any ku fan thinks that with thier depth there is a chance of victory, please pass me the doob... THEN maybe I will understand. As much as I hate Pete Carol and those pricks out there, while some teams reload after each season... USC has the ability to reload after every series - they are freaking DEEP!