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Title: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: Gigidy on October 21, 2007, 10:50:54 PM
1) Mo's gotta go.  During Snyder's last years he was unable get production out of the some decent but  not great by any means of talent.  I personally believe Monty, Howard, and Collston would have been much better than what they turned out to be....not that they where bad but in my opinion they could have been better.  Again MO has ta GO!
2) Our tackling sucks.  Games 1 and 2 3-5 players tackled the runner.  Now 1 or 2 ARMS tackle.  Noticed the same thing happen last year.  1st 2-3 games we gang tackled and then we went to arm tackling=rush yards up for opp.
3) WE DON'T HIT!  Remember Mario, Randolph, Mendez, Pierce.  Don't get me wrong Roland is a good lb with a nose for the ball but he doesn't hit and neither do our db's.  I believe we lost the game against BYU (I was there), BUT I KNOW Mario hit the sh*t out of that WR.  When was the last time we had a really jaw jarring hit.  The last one I could think of is when Watts hit the Marshal qb, and that was during Snyder's time.  I like fast but not at the expense of intimidation.  That was fun fundamental fb
4) Smash mouth football will beat finese 7 out of 10 times.  That brings me to the small athletic lineman that we seem to love to recruit.  I believe large imobile Olines are better.   Case in point look at the linemen that Snyder put in the NFL.  I don't see any in the near future.  Bring back the guys that can not run a 5 and under 40.  If they can't block then at least they can't get easily moved out of the way.

Just some thoughts on our new team.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: Trim on October 21, 2007, 10:54:26 PM
3) WE DON'T HIT! 

We run AND hit.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: michigancat on October 21, 2007, 10:55:24 PM
1's an interesting thought that I kind of like, 2's kind of obvious, 3 and 4 are pretty stupid.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: pufizzle on October 21, 2007, 11:04:09 PM
Pretty ballsy to have a first post like that. 
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: mjrod on October 21, 2007, 11:07:14 PM
We have to stop living in the past or we'll become Nebraska fans.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: Gigidy on October 21, 2007, 11:11:10 PM
I agree MJORD but I like that type of football.  TTech finese vs. OU defense.  check the record.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: Kat Kid on October 21, 2007, 11:12:51 PM
I like Mo.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: michigancat on October 21, 2007, 11:14:12 PM
I agree MJORD but I like that type of football.  TTech finese vs. OU defense.  check the record.

did you watch OU's National title offense?

Did you watch the KSU/Texas game?

LMK
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: mjrod on October 21, 2007, 11:16:09 PM
I really liked what Snyder did, but I'd like us to go to BCS bowls and NC games and I don't care if they tap them on the ass, or plow them into the ground, so long as we can do what is needed to get there.

Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: michigancat on October 21, 2007, 11:17:36 PM
I really liked what Snyder did, but I'd like us to go to BCS bowls and NC games and I don't care if they tap them on the ass, or plow them into the ground, so long as we can do what is needed to get there.



QFT.

Either way, if you watch the 1993 and 94 highlight tapes, they look very similar to what Prince is doing now, on offense, defense, and special teams.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: tmramrod91 on October 21, 2007, 11:20:55 PM
I really liked what Snyder did, but I'd like us to go to BCS bowls and NC games and I don't care if they tap them on the ass, or plow them into the ground, so long as we can do what is needed to get there.



QFT.

Either way, if you watch the 1993 and 94 highlight tapes, they look very similar to what Prince is doing now, on offense, defense, and special teams.

A lot of people forget what type of offense snyder ran in the early years...a spread offense and threw the ball all over the yard with May and a very talented group of WR. Defensively they were better, but look at the staff and the talent Snyder had during those years.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: mjrod on October 21, 2007, 11:22:11 PM
I really liked what Snyder did, but I'd like us to go to BCS bowls and NC games and I don't care if they tap them on the ass, or plow them into the ground, so long as we can do what is needed to get there.



QFT.

Either way, if you watch the 1993 and 94 highlight tapes, they look very similar to what Prince is doing now, on offense, defense, and special teams.

Thank you.  I didn't want to say it, but that's exactly what's happening.

Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: pufizzle on October 21, 2007, 11:26:59 PM
Freeman>>>>>>May

Nelson>>>>>>Lockett


WHY AREN'T WE WINNING!!?? :runaway:
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: Gigidy on October 21, 2007, 11:28:24 PM
To be honest I don't know what the talent was like i.e. recuiting stars, but we put people in place and had them ready.  I don't feel like our defense is ready past the first 2 series.  
I didn't see the OU title game I was in England and had to work in the morning but it isn't the O that has me concerned it is the D.
Yes I did see the TX game.  We ran the ball well in that game.  We also made an effort to.  When we game plan to not run the ball is when I have a problem i.e. TX last year.  Before you say anything I know we won.  But ku kicked our as cause they knew we HAD to throw.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: tmramrod91 on October 21, 2007, 11:30:45 PM
Freeman>>>>>>May

Nelson>>>>>>Lockett


WHY AREN'T WE WINNING!!?? :runaway:

Pre '04 Snyder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2nd yr RP
Snyder's defensive coaching staff>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RP's defensive coaching staff
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: catdude33 on October 21, 2007, 11:31:37 PM
We have to stop living in the past or we'll become Nebraska fans.


I think I'm going to write a poem about the DOD.  A love poem.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: mjrod on October 21, 2007, 11:32:38 PM
Freeman>>>>>>May

Nelson>>>>>>Lockett


WHY AREN'T WE WINNING!!?? :runaway:


Defensively they were better, but look at the staff and the talent Snyder had during those years.


Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: michigancat on October 21, 2007, 11:34:38 PM
I didn't see the OU title game I was in England and had to work in the morning but it isn't the O that has me concerned it is the D.
Yes I did see the TX game.  We ran the ball well in that game.  We also made an effort to.  When we game plan to not run the ball is when I have a problem i.e. TX last year.  Before you say anything I know we won.  But ku kicked our as cause they knew we HAD to throw.

OU ran an offense that was about as "finesse" as possible.

We knocked the ever-loving-sh*t out of Colt McCoy against UT.  (Cody Hawkins vs. CU, too)

Also, Prince's last OL at UVA had 4 players wind up on NFL rosters.  Didn't Snyder have, like, two his last 3 years?

Your points are stupid, you smell like a sock.

Freeman>>>>>>May

Nelson>>>>>>Lockett


WHY AREN'T WE WINNING!!?? :runaway:

People forget how utterly sh*tty the non-NU and CU Big 8 was in the mid-90's.

Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: pufizzle on October 21, 2007, 11:36:03 PM
Remember when we were known as Linebacker U?  :love: :love:


Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: tmramrod91 on October 21, 2007, 11:38:04 PM
Remember when we were known as Linebacker U?  :love: :love:




get out of the past husker fan
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: pufizzle on October 21, 2007, 11:41:47 PM
Remember when we were known as Linebacker U?  :love: :love:




get out of the past husker fan

Darren Howard!!   :love:

We used to be, like, really good n' stuff.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: catdude33 on October 21, 2007, 11:42:54 PM
Remember when we were known as Linebacker U?  :love: :love:

I absolutely loved Jeff Kelly.  He might be my favorite KSU defensive player of all time not named Newman.  Oh, and for all you high school losers, Jeff Kelly would beat the hell out of Josh Buhl and Brandon Archer at the same time.  Anyway, yeah it was awesome we were known as Linebacker U.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: mjrod on October 21, 2007, 11:43:06 PM
We need to write a new history of dominance in the Prince era.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: Gigidy on October 21, 2007, 11:44:14 PM
Hey Rusty chill.  Wasn't trying to offend you or your sock but it is an opinion.  Not fact.  I.E. just some thoughts....
OU's D was my point not O as I posted earlier.
Yes we beat the hell out of McCoy but there coaches are a box of rocks.  Hawk SR had a bad night in my OPINION.  I beleive we were the better team but feel we were lucky in that game as well.

Also, guys I was using the past as examples not I wish we had.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: pufizzle on October 21, 2007, 11:47:00 PM
Hey Rusty chill.  Wasn't trying to offend you or your sock but it is an opinion.  Not fact.  I.E. just some thoughts....
OU's D was my point not O as I posted earlier.
Yes we beat the hell out of McCoy but there coaches are a box of rocks.  Hawk SR had a bad night in my OPINION.  I beleive we were the better team but feel we were lucky in that game as well.

Also, guys I was using the past as examples not I wish we had.

Telling Rusty to "chill" on your 4th post!!?   :nono:   :ohno:
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: Gigidy on October 21, 2007, 11:54:48 PM
That kind of stuff makes people sound like they are a Soph or Jr in HS trying to get attention. Pathetic.  To bad since some of his posts had good points but was all lost when he says stuff like that.  Hard to have respect for childish stuff like that.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: dlew12 on October 22, 2007, 12:00:21 AM
Hey Rusty chill.  Wasn't trying to offend you or your sock but it is an opinion.  Not fact.  I.E. just some thoughts....
OU's D was my point not O as I posted earlier.
Yes we beat the hell out of McCoy but there coaches are a box of rocks.  Hawk SR had a bad night in my OPINION.  I beleive we were the better team but feel we were lucky in that game as well.

Also, guys I was using the past as examples not I wish we had.

Please, we've punished quarterbacks under prince.  Is Tubberville a box of rocks too?  Cox couldn't see straight for a week.

The problem with our defense is ONLY our innability to tackle and shed blocks.  It has nothing to do with "how hard we hit."  The only reason you remember the BYU mario tackle is because the mormon's helmet went flying and you've seen it a thousand times.

I believe Campbell or Houlik  or whoever rocked SJSU's receiver pretty hard and sent his cap flying too.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: Gigidy on October 22, 2007, 12:12:31 AM
I've only seen the hit a few times.  The reason I remember it is because I was there and heard it from about 100 yards away but sounded like I was on the sideline at the point of contact, just awesome.  thanks for the good arguement.  I guess those where good hits, and your right about the shedding blocks and tackling but that is where MO has ta Go.  We don't give our lbrs the freedom needed to roam in my mind and maybe I am just not used to the 3-4 d but we line up 4 on the line offen and I don't see much change in outcome till we get to the goal line.  We have a hell of a goal line d and 4th down we are doing pretty good as well.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: Kat Kid on October 22, 2007, 12:14:09 AM
That kind of stuff makes people sound like they are a Soph or Jr in HS trying to get attention. Pathetic.  To bad since some of his posts had good points but was all lost when he says stuff like that.  Hard to have respect for childish stuff like that.

Yeah, I'd probably just hang up the cleats lil' guy.  Go over to rivals with the powertards and work on your game.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: Gigidy on October 22, 2007, 12:16:43 AM
You just made my point Kid.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: Kat Kid on October 22, 2007, 12:17:57 AM
You just made my point Kid.

You didn't have a point.  I made a different point.  Don't try to ride my coattails!
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: Gigidy on October 22, 2007, 12:24:47 AM
While no I don't get your point and it doesn't bother me, let me put this in uuuummmm say 3rd grade english Kat Kid.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2007, 07:58:20 AM
While no I don't get your point and it doesn't bother me, let me put this in uuuummmm say 3rd grade english Kat Kid.

You're not good with internets
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: KSUTOMMY on October 22, 2007, 08:03:29 AM
OK, we are still in the process of shedding those excess BS players that Snyder brought on board his last couple of years. Did we all forget to take our Alzheimers meds this morning? OUR RECRUITING SUCKED in Snyder's final couple of years - Prince is a recruiting GOD! IMO we can get a better picture of where we are going in yr 3-4, until then - HANG ON, cuz thing are gonna be a little wierd.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: AzCat on October 22, 2007, 08:36:53 AM
Smash mouth football will beat finese 7 out of 10 times.

Nubbie sock.  Move along, nothing to see here.   :blank:
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: scoopeloo on October 22, 2007, 08:39:32 AM
the only reason ksu likes small, quick defensive linemen is because they haven't been able to recruit any big, fast linemen.
it's not a preference, it's what they are left with.  Recruiting d-linemen apparently is very difficult and Prince and Co. haven't proven themselves capable.
Title: Re: Things noticed over the last 1 & half yrs
Post by: waks on October 22, 2007, 08:51:48 AM
the only reason ksu likes small, quick defensive linemen is because they haven't been able to recruit any big, fast linemen.
it's not a preference, it's what they are left with.  Recruiting d-linemen apparently is very difficult and Prince and Co. haven't proven themselves capable.
I don't think I've ever heard that KSU likes small and quick defensive linemen. It's the o-line that Prince prefers to have full of athletic guys. Our defensive line wasn't really a problem last year and we really haven't had a terrible time recruiting for it. It's just that we haven't ever had much depth and Moran bolted this year.