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Title: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: ksu_FAN on October 11, 2007, 02:12:09 PM
1) More commitment to running the ball.  Yes, we may struggle for stretches, but we need to see 20-25 touches by our backs, and I'd like to see Johnson get 2/3s of those.  I think we continue our base stretch play, but also be intentional with the cutback off of it and run some inside traps like we saw at times last year.  Hopefully our Oline can handle it.  Even when we get in our trips bunch sets (usually with 2 TEs) toss the ball a couple times and see what happens.  We must show a commitment to the run and hopefully have some success to open up this offense. 

2) More diversity in our routes, especially in flooding the zones if we see cover 2, which I expect we will.  We will have to have protection though b/c we need at least 4 guys on routes.  In our 2 back shotgun sets we have twins to one side and a single WR to the other.  On the twins side we've got to get some combos to put the saftey and corner in a bind.  Put Nelson in the slot and Murphy wide.  Run Nelson right down the hashes to hold the safety, run Murphy on a skinny post-corner, swing the back out to the flats, and run the backside WR on a deep post.  You put the playside safety in a bind their if the routes are spaced right having to cover 2 guys in his zone and this is a way to get the ball down the field.  The back swinging out should hold the corner, though he'll probably get picked up by a LB.  Still, if the corner goes deep to stay with the post-corner route, Johnson/Patton should be able to get the backer on the edge.  There are plenty of other ways to use 3 recievers to attack cover 2, but I pointed out this one b/c it should give you a chance to get vertical a bit, if you can give the QB some time and still allows you to keep 6 guys in to protect.

3) More screens.  We've attempted some slip screens to Jordy, and at least one to Murphy, but we've got to try to get Patton and Johnson in space as well.  Out of the 2 back gun formation, we could easly run a double screen for example.  Plus some more slip screens to Nelson.  I'd like to see a screen to a back when we have 3 TEs in the game as well. 

Otherwise, keep doing what we are doing.  The short passing game and stretch zone will continue to be our staples, especially with our current personnel, but these could be a few additions to put a bit more pressure on defenses.

Title: Re: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: dmartin on October 11, 2007, 02:13:39 PM
KSU touchdowns.

but that's just me.
Title: Re: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: michigancat on October 11, 2007, 02:17:12 PM
win
Title: Re: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: kougar24 on October 11, 2007, 02:22:03 PM
life
Title: Re: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: cireksu on October 11, 2007, 02:28:02 PM
An out and up.

5 wide sets, as mentioned previously, if we are going to continue to not run the ball why run PA?


If we are going to run the ball, run some trap if we can't maintain blocks on the stretch plays.

Deep crossing routes. 
Title: Re: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: Beer on October 11, 2007, 02:37:06 PM
Three plays in this order:

1) Hook & ladder

2) HB pass

3) Statue of Liberty

Followed immediately by the "Prince Stomp".
Title: Re: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: steve dave on October 11, 2007, 02:44:29 PM
Three plays in this order:

1) Hook & ladder

2) HB pass

3) Statue of Liberty

Followed immediately by the "Prince Stomp Strut".
Title: Re: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: wildcatstunt on October 11, 2007, 04:29:00 PM
How about throwing the ball deep?? All we do is short passes. ku pressed the crap out of us all game. And we did the same crap all game. It was so easy for them defensively. We need to spread defenses out.
Title: Re: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: frackku on October 11, 2007, 04:45:32 PM
Adjustments
Title: Re: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: ksu_FAN on October 11, 2007, 05:31:40 PM
How about throwing the ball deep?? All we do is short passes. ku pressed the crap out of us all game. And we did the same crap all game. It was so easy for them defensively. We need to spread defenses out.

ku was in cover 2 most of the time.  They pressed with the corners, but they had 2 deep over the top and corners had flats.  Against that you've got to flood zones deep which requires some time for the QB.  I agree, I'd like to see it, but we'll see.
Title: Re: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: cireksu on October 11, 2007, 05:48:24 PM
You can throw deep down the middle against cover 2 and hit seams, but you've got to keep the corners and safety's home.
Title: Re: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: cireksu on October 11, 2007, 05:50:05 PM
rob jackson, marcus watts and reggie walker to show up.
Title: Re: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: opcat on October 11, 2007, 05:51:56 PM
Zero penalty killing drives.

Enough runs to sustain drives and keep opponent off balance.


Better tackling.

Simple stuff.  :blank:
Title: Re: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: dmartin on October 11, 2007, 10:54:19 PM
Zero penalty killing drives.


Not to question your FBIQ but shouldn't that be Zero Drive Killing Penalties? 
Title: Re: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: mjrod on October 12, 2007, 12:28:37 AM
I'd like to see a strut off in the middle of the field between Hawkins and Prince.

A ref will take a headset to the middle of the field, throw it on the Powercat and then the two will strut it out.   Winner takes the North Division.
 
Title: Re: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: dmartin on October 12, 2007, 07:30:02 AM
Prince might have a slight edge in the strut off, as long as Screaming Tirade is not the tie breaker.
Title: Re: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: g2brg on October 12, 2007, 08:16:12 AM
I'm ready for the "Naked Cheerleader Diversion" trick play, but Prince is probably saving it for CCG.

 :runaway:
Title: Re: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: PurplePowerhouse on October 12, 2007, 08:34:55 AM
An out and up.

5 wide sets, as mentioned previously, if we are going to continue to not run the ball why run PA?


If we are going to run the ball, run some trap if we can't maintain blocks on the stretch plays.

Deep crossing routes. 

If we can't hold blocks on the stretch plays, how the hell is our OL supposed to block long enough for Josh to make his reads in a 5-wide set???
Title: Re: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: The Manhatter on October 12, 2007, 08:35:48 AM
victory formation.

 :bootyshake:
Title: Re: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: fatty fat fat on October 12, 2007, 09:32:44 AM
Hawkins to Prince after the game, "Did you need 49? Did you really need 49?"
Title: Re: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: dmartin on October 12, 2007, 10:08:30 AM
Hawkins to Prince after the game, "Did you need 49? Did you really need 49?"

And Prince's reply to Hawkins "It's Big 12 Football bab......"

ah hell
Title: Re: Things I'd like to see on offense saturday night...
Post by: JTKSU on October 12, 2007, 02:28:52 PM
Hawkins to Prince after the game, "Did you need 49? Did you really need 49?"

And Prince's reply to Hawkins "It's Big 12 Football bab......"

ah hell

What, no " Go play intramurals brother?"