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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: cas on October 07, 2007, 09:47:14 PM
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I know that this has been probably been said about 1000 times, but why did we not attempt to throw the ball down field more often. Especially in this one certain situation that comes to mind, was when we had about (I think) 2nd and 3 at about the ku 30. ku had about 8 or 9 guys in the box. Jordy had Chris Harris (#16) on him, if Jordy can beat all-world Aqib Talib surely he can beat Harris. Also if I remember correctly, we really only threw the ball down field once, and that was the Nelson TD.
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1. Playcalling
2. Freeman hasn't proven he is a deep ball thrower
3. O-line couldn't block long enough.
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I lol at you guys who think the offense is the real problem. Defense wins games. Our's looked lost and was whiffing at every run. Only Campbell looked like he knew what he was doing. Watts was two steps slower than everyone else and he still got to the ball faster than anyone.
As for offense, O-Line is no longer an issue. We need better play calling. Period. O-Line can't block enough is BS when we send two WR's into nickel coverage. We need more options for Freeman. In third and long situations, we need to run a shotgun formation with a FB in the backfield- have 4 wide.
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I lol at you guys who think the offense is the real problem. Defense wins games. Our's looked lost and was whiffing at every run. Only Campbell looked like he knew what he was doing. Watts was two steps slower than everyone else and he still got to the ball faster than anyone.
As for offense, O-Line is no longer an issue. We need better play calling. Period. O-Line can't block enough is BS when we send two WR's into nickel coverage. We need more options for Freeman. In third and long situations, we need to run a shotgun formation with a FB in the backfield- have 4 wide.
Victor Mann. :frown:
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As for offense, O-Line is no longer an issue. We need better play calling. Period. O-Line can't block enough is BS when we send two WR's into nickel coverage. We need more options for Freeman. In third and long situations, we need to run a shotgun formation with a FB in the backfield- have 4 wide.
For some odd reason Prince still doesn't seem to think that he needs a FB as part of the offense
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As for offense, O-Line is no longer an issue. We need better play calling. Period. O-Line can't block enough is BS when we send two WR's into nickel coverage. We need more options for Freeman. In third and long situations, we need to run a shotgun formation with a FB in the backfield- have 4 wide.
For some odd reason Prince still doesn't seem to think that he needs a FB as part of the offense
Remember last year when Prince was all "John McCardle is gonna be sort of like a full back" and now Prince and all of us are like "wth? who is john McCardle?"
Maybe we should try a full back...
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We did line up Pooschke as a full back H-back a couple of times.
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I know that this has been probably been said about 1000 times, but why did we not attempt to throw the ball down field more often. Especially in this one certain situation that comes to mind, was when we had about (I think) 2nd and 3 at about the ku 30. ku had about 8 or 9 guys in the box. Jordy had Chris Harris (#16) on him, if Jordy can beat all-world charles gordon lite surely he can beat Harris. Also if I remember correctly, we really only threw the ball down field once, and that was the Nelson TD.
Seriously, it is hard to throw deep against two deep safeties. Coaches aren't going to risk it. Until we can establish something else that forces teams to put one of those safeties in the box, we aren't going to have much of a vertical passing game. And a situation like you mentioned is one of the few where we could've tried it. Heck, I was all for going for a fade to Jordy in some of those situations where we had 3 TEs in the game, but there was usually a safety back there to help the corner.
And I think the only time this offense changes is the day someone gets fired. This is what Prince and Franklin came in wanting to run. We don't have all the parts yet to run it, I'm anxious to see if they will adjust. I think for the time being Prince will remain true to what he's said all year, win with defense and special teams and don't let the offense mess it up. We'll see.
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Seriously, it is hard to throw deep against two deep safeties. Coaches aren't going to risk it. Until we can establish something else that forces teams to put one of those safeties in the box, we aren't going to have much of a vertical passing game. And a situation like you mentioned is one of the few where we could've tried it. Heck, I was all for going for a fade to Jordy in some of those situations where we had 3 TEs in the game, but there was usually a safety back there to help the corner.
And I think the only time this offense changes is the day someone gets fired. This is what Prince and Franklin came in wanting to run. We don't have all the parts yet to run it, I'm anxious to see if they will adjust. I think for the time being Prince will remain true to what he's said all year, win with defense and special teams and don't let the offense mess it up. We'll see.
That's the sad thing Fan, we can't even run when the defense only has 7 in the box. And then on top of that, we lose Bedore. We can't even use a TE that often because he has to stay in and block.
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get a more consistent running game and pass pro and then and only then can you bitch about "playcalling".
LOL at this stuff. Gotta love how L's are routinely blamed on QB's and playcalling.
How 'bout ripping the defense that took a nap for the 2nd half? In any scenario 24 points should be enough to win a ballgame. This game was lost on defense, not offense.
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That's the sad thing Fan, we can't even run when the defense only has 7 in the box.
Which, despite what we've read above from a poster who doesn't realize that the playcalling is designed to mask the glaring problems on the OL, is a sure sign that the OL is the problem.
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get a more consistent running game and pass pro and then and only then can you bitch about "playcalling".
LOL at this stuff. Gotta love how L's are routinely blamed on QB's and playcalling.
How 'bout ripping the defense that took a nap for the 2nd half? In any scenario 24 points should be enough to win a ballgame. This game was lost on defense, not offense.
I agree with that. 24 points (and it should've been 27) should be enough to win, even with issues on offense. Defensively we got it handed to us in the 2nd. Plus, you take a lead then let them score in 4 plays. Unacceptable.
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I lol at you guys who think the offense is the real problem. Defense wins games. Our's looked lost and was whiffing at every run. Only Campbell looked like he knew what he was doing. Watts was two steps slower than everyone else and he still got to the ball faster than anyone.
As for offense, O-Line is no longer an issue. We need better play calling. Period. O-Line can't block enough is BS when we send two WR's into nickel coverage. We need more options for Freeman. In third and long situations, we need to run a shotgun formation with a FB in the backfield- have 4 wide.
When you take the lead late in a game your D should be able to prevent a 62 yard scoring drive. Bottom line is that our D should not have let ku score on that last drive. Our O would have gotten the ball back w/ a chance to run down the clock and at least have a chance to get more points.
The same thing happened at Auburn also, our D should not have let them score on that TD drive. Our D needs to learn to put people away late in games. When you have the lead in the last half of the 4th quarter, your D needs to produce three-and-outs.