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Title: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 25, 2007, 05:22:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoMmbUmKN0E

For starters lets recognize that the newspaper column was written by a ku grad, which pretty much tells us that the bitch doesn't know anything about anything.

Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: waks on September 25, 2007, 06:44:06 PM
It was a pretty sh*tty article. But Gundy should have just ignored it. It didn't warrant near the time he or anyone else spent on it. It was just a poorly written article.
Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: Meatbag on September 25, 2007, 08:22:35 PM
Where is the article?? 

Written by a ku grad??  Figures.
Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: michigancat on September 25, 2007, 10:29:54 PM
I already posted this on J-Mart's blog, but I think this will help his recruiting tremendously.
Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: doom on September 25, 2007, 10:32:56 PM
He was right, but he sounds like a drunk/retarded idiot in that conference.  He can't put together a decent sentence to save his life, as per usual when trying to yell and not curse at the same time.  Should have made his points in a calmer fashion so he didn't sound so ridiculous.
Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: Bookcat on September 25, 2007, 10:44:45 PM
NewsOK.com hired Jenni Carlson. lol
Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: WildWillie21 on September 25, 2007, 11:13:27 PM
I already posted this on J-Mart's blog, but I think this will help his recruiting tremendously.

I disagree.

 Maybe if he'd have put some thought into and done it the right way I could see where recruits would be impressed by how he stuck up for his player. Instead he looked like a jackass chewing out a lady, a retard fumbling around with a paper, and an illiterate okie slurring words and making up others.

Props to him for doing it, though, just not the way he did it.
Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: PurplePowerhouse on September 26, 2007, 07:46:38 AM
I'm at work so I can't access YouTube.  I was listening on 580 the other day though (slow radio day, what can I say?)...and Sharpe's sidekick said something about Gundy attacking her for being a single mom.  Man, that's some rough stuff--especially when you consider how many baby daddies play football...and basketball...well ok, sports in general.
Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: jmlynch on September 26, 2007, 07:56:35 AM
He said that it was obvious she didn't have children.

Anyways, I think he did the right thing. Sure he went a little crazy and the rant went a little long, but he had to stand up for his player. Especially if the allegations were made up. I'm with Rusty, I think this showed that Gundy is looking out for his players and is willing to put him self out there in defense of them.
Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: steve dave on September 26, 2007, 09:18:39 AM
He did the right thing.  She deserved it.  The article was a hit piece against a player that doesn't even start.  It would be like writing a piece about Dylan Myer being a pussy.  I mean, we all know it, you just don't have to rub his nose in it.
Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: michigancat on September 26, 2007, 09:22:49 AM
I should add that I don't think she deserved what she got and Gundy looks bat-sh*t-crazy, but it could still help recruiting.
Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: catzacker on September 26, 2007, 09:37:45 AM
I really don't have a problem with the article or Gundy defending his player, I do have a problem with righteousness displayed by both Gundy (and his defenders) and Carlson (and her defenders). 

But I do agree with Rusty; it can't hurt recruiting. 
Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: The Manhatter on September 26, 2007, 09:40:09 AM
can anyone doctor that video so when Gundy says, "..or calls him fat"...when referring to a child being made fun of...would like to see someone add a "E" sound to fat and then repeat fat two more times so we have ole' Gundy honoring our triple F.

Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: michigancat on September 26, 2007, 09:50:49 AM
I really don't have a problem with the article or Gundy defending his player, I do have a problem with righteousness displayed by both Gundy (and his defenders) and Carlson (and her defenders). 

No sh*t.
Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: catzacker on September 26, 2007, 09:55:38 AM
He did the right thing.  She deserved it.  The article was a hit piece against a player that doesn't even start.  It would be like writing a piece about Dylan Myer being a pussy.  I mean, we all know it, you just don't have to rub his nose in it.

I would have actually loved an article about DM being a FP, especially if it was done by a Collegian writer.  Although the last time that happened, the Collegian writer ended up running for his life from Manny.   But I don't see DM having the motivation to get up from playing the bongos and do anything to anyone. 
Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: steve dave on September 26, 2007, 10:16:34 AM
He did the right thing.  She deserved it.  The article was a hit piece against a player that doesn't even start.  It would be like writing a piece about Dylan Myer being a pussy.  I mean, we all know it, you just don't have to rub his nose in it.

I would have actually loved an article about DM being a FP, especially if it was done by a Collegian writer.  Although the last time that happened, the Collegian writer ended up running for his life from Manny.   But I don't see DM having the motivation to get up from playing the bongos and do anything to anyone. 

LOL I forgot about the MD thing.  And yeah, most collegian writers would kick the sh**t out of DM.
Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: shaft3500 on September 26, 2007, 10:42:49 AM
i heard she wrote a response piece today, but i can't find it due to internet restrictions at work. has anyone read it? i heard she pretty much stuck to her guns.
Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: willie83 on September 26, 2007, 10:52:33 AM
Here is today's article

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By Jenni Carlson
Staff Writer
STILLWATER — I finally got a follow-up question.

Two days ago, Mike Gundy launched a verbal tirade on yours truly. The Oklahoma State football coach took offense to my Saturday column about Bobby Reid. When Gundy was still talking sense, before he went completely ballistic, he contended that the column was fiction.

Click Here

"Three-fourths of this is inaccurate,” he said.

Then about three minutes later, Gundy stormed out. No questions. No rebuttals.

Monday at Oklahoma State's weekly news conference, I had a chance to ask the question that's been eating at me ever since:

You contended three-fourths of that column was inaccurate; could you tell me what those factual errors were?

"I don't have to,” he said.

Our paper has a policy of correcting errors, and I can't do that if I don't know what the errors were.

"I don't have to,” Gundy said again. "I'd rather just let it go.”

I'd rather let it go, too, but by disputing the facts in my column, Gundy attacked my credibility.

These were not wild accusations. They are facts that came from sources and observations. I will not stand on the sidelines and allow someone to attack my credibility.

Anyone who's involved with producing a product, any product, can understand.

Let's say you're making and selling widgets, and the widget maker across the street goes out on the corner and tells everyone passing by that your widgets are faulty. Seventy-five percent of them don't work, he says. You know it's not true.

What would you do?

Take it?

Of course not. You'd want your next-door widget maker to substantiate those claims or back off of them.

That's what I wanted.

Gundy was asked on at least three separate occasions Monday — once by me and two other times by other journalists — to expand on his contention that the facts in the column were inaccurate. Did Reid never consider transferring, for example? Did he play through injuries like coaches wanted? Gundy has yet to argue any facts specifically.

Gundy has only attempted to dispute one thing in the column. Saturday night, he said Cowboy coaches didn't start Reid over Donovan Woods in 2005 because Reid threatened to transfer.

I never said that they did.

Here's what I said: "Reid has considered transferring a couple different times, the first as early as 2005. Reid, then a redshirt freshman, was facing competition from returner Donovan Woods, and apparently, Reid considered leaving OSU just because he had to compete for the spot.”

I feel as adamant about the facts in that column as Gundy did in his belief that his player shouldn't have been so scrutinized.

That is a reasonable and healthy debate. How much should college athletes be scrutinized?

High school athletes are treated differently from college athletes. Pro athletes are treated differently still. In general, athletes are more scrutinized the higher they climb.

There are shades of gray, though, in college athletics. A fourth- or fifth-year player is held more accountable for on-field performance than a freshman. A college football player at a big-time school is scrutinized more, too, because football is just a different beast.

The idea of "amateurs” playing big-time college football is novel but naive these days. College football is the minor leagues for pro football. It isn't quite professional, but it isn't still amateur, either. The money and the attention and the importance shade it more toward the professional level.

Reid, as a fourth-year player and a 21-year-old man, leans more toward the upper end of that scale.

Now, I didn't write that column Saturday to embarrass Bobby Reid. He has been a super kid to deal with, and frankly, I've thought highly of his ability. Heck, I wrote last year that I thought he might be the second coming of Vince Young.

No, the reason for my column Saturday was because of one lingering question — why have the Cowboys, who so adamantly backed Reid, suddenly switched course, benched the biggest recruit to ever sign with the program and jumped full speed ahead with Zac Robinson?

Again, my answer came from sources and observations.

I stand by those facts.

Gundy has said three-fourths of them are wrong, but I'm waiting to hear the argument against even one.

LINKLINK (http://newsok.com/article/keyword/3133457/)
Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: WildWillie21 on September 26, 2007, 11:01:04 AM
Damn widget makers.
Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: ksu_FAN on September 26, 2007, 11:08:46 AM
Reggie Walker weighs in (Eagle):

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You can count on Reggie Walker to have a take on just about everything.

He hadn't seen the video of Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy's outburst at a reporter on Saturday, but he read about it in K-State's student newspaper Monday morning.

He already had his opinion formed.

"To me, I think it was good he stood up for his players, because a player wants to be respected by his coach," he said. "But I think he kind of could have calmed down. I'm not really thinking too much of that."

Would Prince or any other K-State coach ever have a similar tirade?

"No," Walker said. "Coach Prince wouldn't let it happen. It just isn't happening."
Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: steve dave on September 26, 2007, 11:20:30 AM
If someone called one of our players a F'n Pussy Prince would get on the podium and scream, "That's what I've been saying!"
Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: shaft3500 on September 26, 2007, 11:44:12 AM
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By Jenni Carlson
Staff Writer
Gundy has only attempted to dispute one thing in the column. Saturday night, he said Cowboy coaches didn't start Reid over Donovan Woods in 2005 because Reid threatened to transfer.

I never said that they did.

Here's what I said: "Reid has considered transferring a couple different times, the first as early as 2005. Reid, then a redshirt freshman, was facing competition from returner Donovan Woods, and apparently, Reid considered leaving OSU just because he had to compete for the spot.”

LINKLINK (http://newsok.com/article/keyword/3133457/)

she doesn't exactly say they started reid due to a transfer threat but she damn sure insinuates it

i hate it when journalists do that, "but, i didn't say exactly that", bullcrap. they know damn well what they mean
Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: Stillwater Cat on September 26, 2007, 02:00:22 PM
Good stuff

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1126119384/bclid1125972053/bctid1200296594

There are also "I'm a Man!"  "I'm 40" shirts available.

http://www.cafepress.com/imamanim40

 :lol:
Title: Re: I don't think we've talked much about Gundy going off
Post by: michigancat on September 26, 2007, 02:06:36 PM
There are also "I'm a Man!"  "I'm 40" shirts available.

http://www.cafepress.com/imamanim40

 :lol:

Heh, that reminds me of the Molly Shannon character.

(http://snltranscripts.jt.org/06/pics/06ssally2.jpg)

If Ron did this, I'd totally buy an "I'm 37!" shirt.