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Title: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 20, 2007, 10:24:40 AM
http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx?S=172&F=2485#s=172&f=2485&t=1049284&p=1

Since the powertards over there are simply too dumb to respond properly.

1.  Vanier's $3.5 million dollar donation was the largest single donation to KSU athletics.  Vanier has given KSU athletics much more than that over time, and several million more to the University.

2.  I know the phog likes to brag about other people's money, but just to clarify that if Jack Vanier has held on to all of his ADM Common Stock from when he retired from their board that alone is worth between $4-$500 million, plus the millions he has earned in dividends off of that stock over the nearly 3 decades he was on that board, plus his other holdings.   Now I know the phlock likes to brag about Phil Anschutz's net worth, but I suspect ol Phil's assets are pretty tied up right now.  But again, I know most of the members of the phlock have all written ku 6 and 7 figure checks and it won't be long before we see the Jayhoax indoor practice facility or the hankh Mangino buffett and smoothie center.

3.  Total contributions to KSU last year were over $90 million for the second year in a row. 

4.  Total contributions to KSU athletics last FY was $16.1 million. (per my buddy Timmy in an interview in the Mercury). 

5.  Total market value of the KSU endowment as of 6/30/07 was $331 million, with total Foundation assets pushing $500 million.  Again endowments and assets, one is a component of the other.

6.  Other noteable contributions to KSU:

Nearly $10 million from Alice Fiedler (a ku alum, her husband was a KSU alum and made the money).

The Merrill Family (who sadly have made several large contribution to ku thanks to Mrs. Merrill).

Warren Staley the retired CEO of Cargill who gave KSU a large 7 figure donation and Cargill just followed up with another million dollars.

The Beach's who have given KSU $3 or $4 million or more (and sadly made several large donations to ku).

The Hales (Hale Library . . . Hale Arena in KC . . . the same folks).

To many more to mention.
Title: Re: Point of claification(s):
Post by: michigancat on September 20, 2007, 10:31:11 AM
don't care.
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 20, 2007, 10:32:34 AM
I don't care that you don't care.

 :nutkick:
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: steve dave on September 20, 2007, 10:35:23 AM
Any KSU alums co-president of the KC BMW club?....game, set, checkmate ku
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: michigancat on September 20, 2007, 10:36:49 AM
I don't get how Phil Anschutz or Jack Vanier's wealth could make anyone feel better about themselves, but it does, apparently.
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: fatty fat fat on September 20, 2007, 10:37:54 AM
Don't forget, we've beaten them 12/14 times.
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 20, 2007, 10:38:49 AM
I don't get how Phil Anschutz or Jack Vanier's wealth could make anyone feel better about themselves, but it does, apparently.

I don't care either, I just enjoy how they always manage to get it wrong over there.
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 20, 2007, 10:56:37 AM
Can't help but note that some on the phlock were making fun of our growing relationship with Olathe.

1.  KSU research campus in Olathe (already getting squawked about hard by ku alums in the Kansas legislature).

2.  Garmin just funded 16 Electrical Engineering Scholarships at KSU (4 more than ku got from Garmin).

Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 20, 2007, 11:01:29 AM
 :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 20, 2007, 11:05:27 AM
 :ksu:
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: KSUTOMMY on September 20, 2007, 11:46:54 AM
Any KSU alums co-president of the KC BMW club?....game, set, checkmate ku


BMW sedan performs worst in crash test 2008

The Ten Worst Used Cars and Trucks
3. BMWs with Automatic Transmissions

No. 48 out of 50 worst cars of all time 2002 BMW 7 Series TIME.com

NICE!

Oh...

Ford F-Series, America’s best-selling full-size pickup for 30 years, is the culmination of nearly 60 years of Built Ford Tough reliability, power and presence. F-Series sets the standard for strength and toughness with more trucks on the road with more than 250,000 miles than any other brand.


owned.
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: ksuno1stunner on September 20, 2007, 12:10:15 PM
What kind of BMW does Hox drive?
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: Beer on September 20, 2007, 01:14:48 PM
Can't help but note that some on the phlock were making fun of our growing relationship with Olathe.

1.  KSU research campus in Olathe (already getting squawked about hard by ku alums in the Kansas legislature).

2.  Garmin just funded 16 Electrical Engineering Scholarships at KSU (4 more than ku got from Garmin).



Most ku fans consider Olathe to be in Alabama.  These are the same ku fans who considered Overland Park to be in Alabama 20 years ago. 
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: frankencat on September 20, 2007, 01:18:19 PM
I'll bet I have a bigger schlong than both Vanier and Anschutz, but like Rusty said, who cares :D
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: willie83 on September 20, 2007, 01:27:15 PM
What kind of BMW does Hox drive?

1982 320i his father bought for him for $750 when he turned 21.

(http://www.coeinc.org/BMW320i/Photos/NEW.jpg)
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: LimestoneOutcropping on September 20, 2007, 01:31:00 PM
What kind of BMW does Hox drive?

beamers are the sheet of the luxury sedan industry.  Half the kids at my graduate school at at least a 5series.
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: ksuno1stunner on September 20, 2007, 02:40:08 PM
What kind of BMW does Hox drive?

beamers are the sheet of the luxury sedan industry.  Half the kids at my graduate school at at least a 5series.

disagree
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: FHSU92 on September 20, 2007, 02:56:12 PM
Frack!!! Im a ku grad & only have a CRV (not even the EX)

  :curse:

BTW, I will soon be changing my username to UWK92...Effin Fast Eddie :forked:
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: TheShocker on September 20, 2007, 02:57:30 PM
Can't help but note that some on the phlock were making fun of our growing relationship with Olathe.

1.  KSU research campus in Olathe (already getting squawked about hard by ku alums in the Kansas legislature).

2.  Garmin just funded 16 Electrical Engineering Scholarships at KSU (4 more than ku got from Garmin).



Most ku fans consider Olathe to be in Alabama.  These are the same ku fans who considered Overland Park to be in Alabama 20 years ago. 

ku fans must be the U.S. Americans that Miss South Carolina was talking about.
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: imaninja on September 20, 2007, 03:18:00 PM
Frack!!! Im a ku grad & only have a CRV (not even the EX)

  :curse:

BTW, I will soon be changing my username to UWK92...Effin Fast Eddie :forked:

FHSU92 you definitly need to go and sign the petition (if you haven't already) and tell old eddy to shove it.

http://www.petitiononline.com/fhsu/petition.html
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 20, 2007, 04:38:18 PM
Now Hoax and SLCrimsonSquawk are proposing that over the years that KSU has lied and cooked the books on fundraising numbers.

Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: waks on September 20, 2007, 04:51:50 PM
*not sarcasm* Dax...I care. I think it's all interesting. I don't really care about the KSU v. ku pissing match but the figures and whatnot are interesting. Thanks for your contributions. *not sarcasm*
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 20, 2007, 05:10:43 PM
But you can't trust KSU's figures, they're cooking the books . . . or that's what some so called giving/endowment expert on phlocknet said and guys like Hoax took it and ran with it.  I don't deny that ku has a larger endowment and more giving, but in terms of annual giving KSU has closed the gap significantly, and KSU accounts for its numbers in cash, gifts, bequests and other assets in the same fashion ku does.   Where the flock often gets confused (and that's understandable considering what a diploma mill JCCC-L has become) is they can't figure out the difference between permanent endowments, and total assets.   Not all gifts go to the endowment, not all gifts can be counted as a permanent endowment, only an asset . . . until the actual monies are received as in the case of a monetary bequest (ex: you buy a life insurance policy and name KSU as the beneficiary, or pledge a % of your estate to KSU upon your death), or when a piece of real property is liquidated etc. etc. etc.

Look at their confusion between individual gifts and individual total giving as another example of typical phlock stupidity.

Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: DrJamesANaismith on September 20, 2007, 07:13:33 PM
 :sleep: :blahblah: :sleep: :blahblah:
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 20, 2007, 08:25:41 PM
:sleep: :blahblah: :sleep: :blahblah:
How's the lawsuit going, miss?
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 20, 2007, 10:39:49 PM
DocStalkSmith suing somebody??

Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 21, 2007, 05:49:06 AM
DocStalkSmith suing somebody??


http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?S=172#s=172&f=2488&t=1013347
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: michigancat on September 21, 2007, 07:17:27 AM
DocStalkSmith suing somebody??


http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?S=172#s=172&f=2488&t=1013347

That is just goddam hilarious.
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 21, 2007, 08:13:51 AM
He might even get Clarence Thomas to ask a question during a Supreme Court Session with this . . . amazing.

Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: steve dave on September 21, 2007, 08:16:50 AM
He might even get Clarence Thomas to ask a question during a Supreme Court Session with this . . . amazing.

Thomas is out sick since the NU fiasco
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 21, 2007, 09:03:57 AM
Props to whoever signed up to "the phog" using the handle "aschoonerisasailboat"
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: steve dave on September 21, 2007, 09:15:03 AM
Props to whoever signed up to "the phog" using the handle "aschoonerisasailboat"

 :blush:
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: Saulbadguy on September 21, 2007, 10:05:54 AM
Props to whoever signed up to "the phog" using the handle "aschoonerisasailboat"

 :blush:
I shoulda known.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: chum1 on September 21, 2007, 10:45:54 AM
The only thing I know about endowments is from the right hand of Wikipedia pages.  They say that Texas has no excuse to be worse than us at anything.

UT Austin:  $5.54 billion
Kansas St:  $396.8 million

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas_at_Austin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas_at_Austin)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_State_University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_State_University)
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: JavaCat on September 21, 2007, 11:09:23 AM
We should ban him.
Title: Re: Point of clarification(s):
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 21, 2007, 11:12:49 AM
I think uT's endowment combines the entire UT system, not that it really matters.