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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: sonofdaxjones on September 10, 2007, 12:10:33 PM
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-Cornhole State very lucky to win.
-Clear PI on Wake's last play.
-Keller has a nice touch at times, but throws pretty much like a girl and had some really bad passes for a Heisman winner.
-Cornhole State, maybe it was just that game, but damn they look SLOOOOOOWWWW.
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Not that it really matters as long as he makes the throws, but watching him throw is quite humorous.
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Yeah, he has made some nice throws, but the way Cornholers talked I expected to see a guy with a rifle arm, not someone that looks like they shotput the ball out there. Pretty strange release for a Heisman winner.
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Are you suggesting it's not NFL prototype throwing motion?
They're already working on the bust for Canton, someone might need to make a call.
Or text message.
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-Cornhole State, maybe it was just that game, but damn they look SLOOOOOOWWWW.
Agreed. While we have been recruiting speed, they have been recruiting Rivals' stars.
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If Skinner plays that game they lose by a couple of TD's. Could have easily lost anyway. It's a nice win for them on the road against a decent team. Probably a disapointment to some of their fans who seem to think they are some kind of incredible team with NFL talent at every position. They showed what most of us already knew which is they are an ordinary team just like the rest of the big 12 North.
The game plan vs. NU the rest of the year will be stack the box vs. the run and make Keller beat you. He couldn't do it vs. a bad Wake secondary that gave up 400 plus yards to BC. Luckily for NU the Wake QB wasn't very good either and he handed NU the game. I was a little surprised that Wake ran the ball on NU like they did, they were not able to run it at all on BC and ran it well against NU.
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if anyone breathes towards keller he freaks out and busts the play. We would need Ian and Rob to have big games to shut down that offense.
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We would need Ian and Rob to have big games to shut down that offense.
An average game from those two should be enough.
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We would need Ian and Rob to have big games to shut down that offense.
An average game from those two should be enough.
QFT
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He has a very odd throwing motion but it is a quick release throwing style. He won't go clear over the top like most QB's and telegraph his passes. And he did look off, almost trying too hard. But I think once he settles down, he will be decent down the stretch. Not Heisman like, but good. Just needs to shake some of the rust off.
And yes, NU did get very lucky not getting a holding call on the last play, but it looked like a make up call for not giving NU that interception. BTW, I don't think anyone is giving Wake much credit. They have a very good D.
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BC sure didn't respect Wake's defense.
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I heard Gabbert had a great game this past weekend.
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I didn't undertang Slash going for it on 4th and 2 (I believe) and about a minute and 50 seconds left and Wake had one timeout....but those kinds of calls are par for the course with Slash.
Suh is a beast.
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no reason to not go for it. our defense had allowed just one score in the 34rd and no points in the 4th. they were at the 40 yard line. had they punted and got a touchback it comes out ot the 20 anyway. the odds were better at getting 2 yards then wake driving distancce enough to get a fg. and the other poster was right, the no call holding was payback for not giving us the pick the play earlier.
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I heard Gabbert had a great game this past weekend.
ttt
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Yeah, last I heard he didn't do so hot and ended up getting benched. I think they said he was playing against a team that was in a division higher then his team was in. The kid is young. I'm not going to make any predictions on him due to the lack of talent around him and the fact that he is still in high school. I think he had like 70 something yards and a pick.
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no reason to not go for it. our defense had allowed just one score in the 34rd and no points in the 4th. they were at the 40 yard line. had they punted and got a touchback it comes out ot the 20 anyway. the odds were better at getting 2 yards then wake driving distancce enough to get a fg. and the other poster was right, the no call holding was payback for not giving us the pick the play earlier.
If NU's up by a touchdown, then I can see going for it, but that's a "gutsy" call only up by a field goal on the 40 yard line. If the defense was playing so well, then why not pin them an extra 20 yards back?
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The play prior to the clear PI on Cornhole State WAS NOT an INT.
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The play prior to the clear PI on Cornhole State WAS NOT an INT.
Yeah...it was. His arms were clearly under the football. It was a pick.
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The play prior to the clear PI on Cornhole State WAS NOT an INT.
Yeah...it was. His arms were clearly under the football after the ball hit the ground and he trapped it. It was not a pick.
Corrected...
:ustupid:
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The play prior to the clear PI on Cornhole State WAS NOT an INT.
Yeah...it was. His arms were clearly under the football. It was a pick.
I just can't comprehend the homerism required to deny what was clearly proven in slow motion by modern video technology. Is there some sort of prescription drug required to reach this kind of delusional state?
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The play prior to the clear PI on Cornhole State WAS NOT an INT.
Yeah...it was. His arms were clearly under the football. It was a pick.
I just can't comprehend the homerism required to deny what was clearly proven in slow motion by modern video technology. Is there some sort of prescription drug required to reach this kind of delusional state?
The wasn't like the Oregon/Oklahoma onside kick fiasco. The ball clearly hit the ground. I can't believe you would even debate that.
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He has a very odd throwing motion but it is a quick release throwing style. He won't go clear over the top like most QB's and telegraph his passes. And he did look off, almost trying too hard. But I think once he settles down, he will be decent down the stretch. Not Heisman like, but good. Just needs to shake some of the rust off.
And yes, NU did get very lucky not getting a holding call on the last play, but it looked like a make up call for not giving NU that interception. BTW, I don't think anyone is giving Wake much credit. They have a very good D.
Keller didn't look off to a second reciever at all. He has his #1 reciever, which he will throw to. Either it be on a bootleg to a tight end. Or to a running back on a screen. You can say all the excuses but the only good throw was his touchdown throw to the tight end over the middle. Oh ha and Keller is pretty slow, so the option will never be a back up plan.
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He has a very odd throwing motion but it is a quick release throwing style. He won't go clear over the top like most QB's and telegraph his passes. And he did look off, almost trying too hard. But I think once he settles down, he will be decent down the stretch. Not Heisman like, but good. Just needs to shake some of the rust off.
And yes, NU did get very lucky not getting a holding call on the last play, but it looked like a make up call for not giving NU that interception. BTW, I don't think anyone is giving Wake much credit. They have a very good D.
Keller didn't look off to a second reciever at all. He has his #1 reciever, which he will throw to. Either it be on a bootleg to a tight end. Or to a running back on a screen. You can say all the excuses but the only good throw was his touchdown throw to the tight end over the middle. Oh ha and Keller is pretty slow, so the option will never be a back up plan.
Cough freeman cough.
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We would need Ian and Rob to have big games to shut down that offense.
An average game from those two should be enough.
QFT
:lol: A great game won't be enough...you guys shouldn't even be in the same division we are.
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We would need Ian and Rob to have big games to shut down that offense.
An average game from those two should be enough.
QFT
:lol: A great game won't be enough...you guys shouldn't even be in the same division we are.
Why do you struggle so much against teams near the bottom of all-time winning percentages?
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We would need Ian and Rob to have big games to shut down that offense.
An average game from those two should be enough.
QFT
:lol: A great game won't be enough...you guys shouldn't even be in the same division we are.
Keller turns into a five year old girl with the slightest hint of pressure. And while nub's o-line is good, they're not good enough to consistantly keep our boys out of the backfield. AU's King Dunlap and some stud 5 star (I know how important stars are to ya) couldn't do it. Neither will nub.
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We would need Ian and Rob to have big games to shut down that offense.
An average game from those two should be enough.
QFT
:lol: A great game won't be enough...you guys shouldn't even be in the same division we are.
Keller turns into a five year old girl with the slightest hint of pressure. And while nub's o-line is good, they're not good enough to consistantly keep our boys out of the backfield. AU's King Dunlap and some stud 5 star (I know how important stars are to ya) couldn't do it. Neither will nub.
QFT
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The play prior to the clear PI on Cornhole State WAS NOT an INT.
Yeah...it was. His arms were clearly under the football. It was a pick.
I just can't comprehend the homerism required to deny what was clearly proven in slow motion by modern video technology. Is there some sort of prescription drug required to reach this kind of delusional state?
Homerism? LOL It was a pick. :baityes:
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He has a very odd throwing motion but it is a quick release throwing style. He won't go clear over the top like most QB's and telegraph his passes. And he did look off, almost trying too hard. But I think once he settles down, he will be decent down the stretch. Not Heisman like, but good. Just needs to shake some of the rust off.
And yes, NU did get very lucky not getting a holding call on the last play, but it looked like a make up call for not giving NU that interception. BTW, I don't think anyone is giving Wake much credit. They have a very good D.
Keller didn't look off to a second reciever at all. He has his #1 reciever, which he will throw to. Either it be on a bootleg to a tight end. Or to a running back on a screen. You can say all the excuses but the only good throw was his touchdown throw to the tight end over the middle. Oh ha and Keller is pretty slow, so the option will never be a back up plan.
I stated he looked off, not he did look off recievers. I was well aware that he was locking onto recievers. I think everyone in the stadium saw that. Plus when he missed, he missed huge. Like the fade to the corner of the endzone. It wasn't even close and the receiver had a step. If this isn't corrected I wouldn't be surprised if we see Ganz in midseason. But I have a feeling things will be shored up. Maybe not by USC, but by conference play. If not, it could be a long season.
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We would need Ian and Rob to have big games to shut down that offense.
An average game from those two should be enough.
QFT
:lol: A great game won't be enough...you guys shouldn't even be in the same division we are.
Keller turns into a five year old girl with the slightest hint of pressure. And while nub's o-line is good, they're not good enough to consistantly keep our boys out of the backfield. AU's King Dunlap and some stud 5 star (I know how important stars are to ya) couldn't do it. Neither will nub.
We all know how lethal that AU offense is. Just ask uSF. Let me guess, USF's D is salty, right? :lol:
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We would need Ian and Rob to have big games to shut down that offense.
An average game from those two should be enough.
QFT
:lol: A great game won't be enough...you guys shouldn't even be in the same division we are.
Keller turns into a five year old girl with the slightest hint of pressure. And while nub's o-line is good, they're not good enough to consistantly keep our boys out of the backfield. AU's King Dunlap and some stud 5 star (I know how important stars are to ya) couldn't do it. Neither will nub.
We all know how lethal that AU offense is. Just ask uSF. Let me guess, USF's D is salty, right? :lol:
Did I mention AU's offense as a whole? No. I simply stated that AU's o-line showed more talent than NU's.
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I love threads like this, when other teams make fun of you for WINNING. As Jim Rome says, make all the points and excuses you want, but the final answer is... Scoreboard.
I don't care if we win the rest of our games by 1 point each and we look like a High School team... as long as we win.
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I love threads like this, when other teams make fun of you for WINNING. As Jim Rome says, make all the points and excuses you want, but the final answer is... Scoreboard.
I don't care if we win the rest of our games by 1 point each and we look like a High School team... as long as we win.
But the polls care. And everyone cares about the polls
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I love threads like this, when other teams make fun of you for WINNING. As Jim Rome says, make all the points and excuses you want, but the final answer is... Scoreboard.
I don't care if we win the rest of our games by 1 point each and we look like a High School team... as long as we win.
But the polls care. And everyone cares about the polls
NU moved up in both polls after the win. I think winning all your games by 1 pt would get you ranked very, very high at years end. Remember that Ohio state national championship team? Close games almost every damn week.
That said I do think NU played a sloppy game and of course I'm never happy with that. But ultimately, we won. At the end of the year, NO ONE cares how close the game was. It just shows up as a W.
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I love threads like this, when other teams make fun of you for WINNING. As Jim Rome says, make all the points and excuses you want, but the final answer is... Scoreboard.
I don't care if we win the rest of our games by 1 point each and we look like a High School team... as long as we win.
But the polls care. And everyone cares about the polls
NU moved up in both polls after the win. I think winning all your games by 1 pt would get you ranked very, very high at years end. Remember that Ohio state national championship team? Close games almost every damn week.
That said I do think NU played a sloppy game and of course I'm never happy with that. But ultimately, we won. At the end of the year, NO ONE cares how close the game was. It just shows up as a W.
Take two teams. One of them No. 15, the other No. 16. Both of them playing very similar opponents, who aren't in the top 25, on the same day. The #16 team wins by 17 points. The #15 team wins, but only by 1 point. Where do they stand in the polls come Monday??
You can't tell me that voters don't in some way base their votes on style/margin of victory.
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I love threads like this, when other teams make fun of you for WINNING. As Jim Rome says, make all the points and excuses you want, but the final answer is... Scoreboard.
I don't care if we win the rest of our games by 1 point each and we look like a High School team... as long as we win.
But the polls care. And everyone cares about the polls
NU moved up in both polls after the win. I think winning all your games by 1 pt would get you ranked very, very high at years end. Remember that Ohio state national championship team? Close games almost every damn week.
That said I do think NU played a sloppy game and of course I'm never happy with that. But ultimately, we won. At the end of the year, NO ONE cares how close the game was. It just shows up as a W.
Take two teams. One of them No. 15, the other No. 16. Both of them playing very similar opponents, who aren't in the top 25, on the same day. The #16 team wins by 17 points. The #15 team wins, but only by 1 point. Where do they stand in the polls come Monday??
You can't tell me that voters don't in some way base their votes on style/margin of victory.
Of course they do, that's just one game. But if a team continually wins by 1 point over the season and remains undefeated, they WILL be ranked very high, and deservedly so. That was the point, that W in the end is what matters.
Take the NU-TX game as an example last year. NU fell in the polls after the loss, and Texas (i think) even climbed. It was obvious how close they came to losing, in the end, they didn't. They got the W.
I'm all for seeing positives in a loss. I thought my team played very well against AU and TX last year and those games gave me hope. But in terms of rankings, W is what ultimately matters.
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Remember that Ohio state national championship team? Close games almost every damn week.
OSU scored 410 points and only gave up 183.
Six of their games were won by 2 or more TDs, and five were by 3 or more TDs.
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I love threads like this, when other teams make fun of you for WINNING. As Jim Rome says, make all the points and excuses you want, but the final answer is... Scoreboard.
I don't care if we win the rest of our games by 1 point each and we look like a High School team... as long as we win.
But the polls care. And everyone cares about the polls
NU moved up in both polls after the win. I think winning all your games by 1 pt would get you ranked very, very high at years end. Remember that Ohio state national championship team? Close games almost every damn week.
That said I do think NU played a sloppy game and of course I'm never happy with that. But ultimately, we won. At the end of the year, NO ONE cares how close the game was. It just shows up as a W.
Take two teams. One of them No. 15, the other No. 16. Both of them playing very similar opponents, who aren't in the top 25, on the same day. The #16 team wins by 17 points. The #15 team wins, but only by 1 point. Where do they stand in the polls come Monday??
You can't tell me that voters don't in some way base their votes on style/margin of victory.
I would agree with you any other year, but the way this year is going it is hard to. Take Ohio St. last week. They played less then a stellar game against Akron and move up to the #10 spot. Also, Wisky. They barely pulled out a W against UNLV?! And they are still top 10 material. Hell, Auburn is ranked ahead of a team that beat them just last week! It's seems more and more that even the polls are taking the "a win is a win" side. TAMU gets taken to triple over time against Fresno St. and they move up a few spots. And lastly, Hawaii, almost crap down their leg against la Tech and are still are ranked in the top 25. This year is definitely different when it comes to wins, thats for sure. OU being the exception :eek:
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Remember that Ohio state national championship team? Close games almost every damn week.
OSU scored 410 points and only gave up 183.
Six of their games were won by 2 or more TDs, and five were by 3 or more TDs.
OK, many close games, not all.
Either way, what's the point? You all know it's the W that matters. Why did Snyder schedule the non-con the way he did (I thought it was/is a great strategy to build a team) if it isn't W's that matter? In the end, wins matter, that's it, and you know it.
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I love threads like this, when other teams make fun of you for WINNING. As Jim Rome says, make all the points and excuses you want, but the final answer is... Scoreboard.
I don't care if we win the rest of our games by 1 point each and we look like a High School team... as long as we win.
But the polls care. And everyone cares about the polls
I am pretty sure if we won all the rest our games by one, including against USC, Texas, and the Big 12 Championship... I am pretty sure we would be playing for the National Title and win that by 1. :D
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that NU will not win the rest of their games by one point. Therefore, for the love of God, stop talking about it. Thanks.
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no reason to not go for it. our defense had allowed just one score in the 34rd and no points in the 4th. they were at the 40 yard line. had they punted and got a touchback it comes out ot the 20 anyway. the odds were better at getting 2 yards then wake driving distancce enough to get a fg. and the other poster was right, the no call holding was payback for not giving us the pick the play earlier.
So now we've finally figured out the '98 facemask....it was a "payback" for all the crap calls earlier in the game.....
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"Sometime afterward, maybe when I saw my fingers were about broken from being entangled in his facemask, it led me to believe it was a facemask,'' Ochs said. "Everybody gripes and moans about it, which I understand because it was at a very crucial time of the game, but there's a lot of penalties that aren't called.
"I have a feeling it all works out. It worked out for me that day. I'd still be grumpy about that deal if it had been called.''
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"It's another highlight on the tape.''
Ochs = :love:
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I love threads like this, when other teams make fun of you for WINNING. As Jim Rome says, make all the points and excuses you want, but the final answer is... Scoreboard.
I don't care if we win the rest of our games by 1 point each and we look like a High School team... as long as we win.
But the polls care. And everyone cares about the polls
I am pretty sure if we won all the rest our games by one, including against USC, Texas, and the Big 12 Championship... I am pretty sure we would be playing for the National Title and win that by 1. :D
That won't happen with Slash at the helm.