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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: BMWJhawk on September 09, 2007, 11:22:08 PM
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ku attendance vs. Central Michigan: 46,000+
K-State attendance vs. SJSU: 45,000
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Did Central Mich have any fans? I think I saw a lineman's mother for SJSU but aside from that no fans.
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LOL @ taking ku's numbers for fact. I thought it was pretty well known that ku inflated their numbers. I'll let Dax pull up the numbers or whatever the hell he does. Also, the numbers K-State releases are paid attendance.
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LOL @ taking ku's numbers for fact. I thought it was pretty well known that ku inflated their numbers. I'll let Dax pull up the numbers or whatever the hell he does. Also, the numbers K-State releases are paid attendance.
And how many Riley soldiers were there? Wouldn't they be free admittance?
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wow...stunning numbers from a program that's never been known to misstate attendance numbers.
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You can subtract at least one of those ticket counts for ku, My boss brought her 6 month old baby and had to buy a ticket.
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my ku buds (100+) keep telling me ku inflates the #.
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Way too many ku "buds" and it makes me wonder about you.
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This is 2007... Al Bohl has been gone for a while. Lew Perkins doesn't inflate attendance numbers, and from a person who was at the game, there was every bit of 46,000+ there. Nice attempt at excuses though... for such great football fans, I figured K-State could get more than 45,000 on opening weekend.
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Looks packed:
(http://media.lawrence.com/img/photos/2007/09/08/ku_fball_sel_hs_bands_t800.jpg?90232451fbcadccc64a17de7521d859a8f88077d)
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This is 2007... Al Bohl has been gone for a while. Lew Perkins doesn't inflate attendance numbers, and from a person who was at the game, there was every bit of 46,000+ there. Nice attempt at excuses though... for such great football fans, I figured K-State could get more than 45,000 on opening weekend.
Again...you're questioning our fans when you've left your game at halftime not once but twice now. Completely comical.
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This is 2007... Al Bohl has been gone for a while. Lew Perkins doesn't inflate attendance numbers, and from a person who was at the game, there was every bit of 46,000+ there. Nice attempt at excuses though... for such great football fans, I figured K-State could get more than 45,000 on opening weekend.
That corner where opposing fans sit was all that I saw that was sparse. The student section was jam packed.
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Looks packed:
(http://media.lawrence.com/img/photos/2007/09/08/ku_fball_sel_hs_bands_t800.jpg?90232451fbcadccc64a17de7521d859a8f88077d)
Band must not have gotten the memo: All formations must be done in Trajan from now on.
kono
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Yep.
Of course, K-state has a nice streak going of outshowing ku if they have a home game on the same day. I don't know exactly how long the streak is, someone on GPC was talking about it this morning. But it's not surprising at all.
This is of course why you'll notice BMW was bragging Central Michigan(Labor Day weekend) instead of their attendance against directional school #2. When comparing attendance from KSU vs SJSU and ku vs Louisiana School for the Blind, K-state outdrew ku by a few thousand. That doesn't include the hundreds of Ft Riley soldiers who attended the game for free.
Even more pathetic when given the amount of alumni living within a half an hour drive of Lawrence, not only due to the fact that Lew inflates the numbers severely, but also charges infants for seats. :violin:
It's pathetic how horrible ku fans are. I bet 50%+ didn't even know the name of the team they were playing on Saturday until they got to the game.
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This is 2007... Al Bohl has been gone for a while. Lew Perkins doesn't inflate attendance numbers, and from a person who was at the game, there was every bit of 46,000+ there. Nice attempt at excuses though... for such great football fans, I figured K-State could get more than 45,000 on opening weekend.
I do agree KSU should be selling more than 45k. Quoting 1,000 more fans as proof of better fans is comical. Especially when one of them finds it more important to rush home on a Saturday night and post on the opposition's message board before the game is even over.
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Look at the facts- We played a team from the West coast who would have trouble bringing fans anywhere outside California. I'm sure Central Michigan could bring more than 1 row to Lawrence. Secondly, if they would've let the people on the hill outside the stadium next to the student section sit in the corner where opposing fans should've been, we would've been close, not counting the Fort Riley boys. Regardless of how many, we shouldn't even bother arguing- Plain and simple, I think we all know 45,000 purple are worth more in those stands than 100,000 blue and red.
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Interesting how less people showed up in Lawrence a week later. 43,914
Maybe the fans don't like cupcakes (http://Maybe the fans don't like cupcakes)
:chirp: :ku:
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Recruiting is going better for us!!!
:ksu: :ksu: :ksu:
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Look at the facts- We played a team from the West coast who would have trouble bringing fans anywhere outside California. I'm sure Central Michigan could bring more than 1 row to Lawrence. Secondly, if they would've let the people on the hill outside the stadium next to the student section sit in the corner where opposing fans should've been, we would've been close, not counting the Fort Riley boys. Regardless of how many, we shouldn't even bother arguing- Plain and simple, I think we all know 45,000 purple are worth more in those stands than 100,000 blue and red.
QFT Fo Sho.
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You can't expect the younger crowd to sit and watch some crummy HS bands at halftime.
Actual crowd against the awful FBS team:
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q233/junglemixer/kuvsSELAa.jpg)
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q233/junglemixer/kuvsSELAb.jpg)
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q233/junglemixer/ku_fball_sel_fan_hoist_t800.jpg)
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q233/junglemixer/ku_fball_sel_student_section__t800.jpg)
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lol. no pics of the bowl?
38K. tops.
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So you're telling me that attendance INCLUDES hundreds of high school band kids?
Even worse.
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lol. no pics of the bowl?
38K. tops.
Don't have any other shots. It wasn't empty over there though. There were definitely fewer people at the SE LA game than reported. No question. But it wasn't anything like the picture posted above. The halftime experience in Memorital is less than stellar, so almost everyone on the East side leaves their seats until the 3rd quarter.
But the CMU game was crowded. I really doubt the numbers were inflated for that game. People were expecting an exciting game against an All-MAC QB.
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or they realized that their team can win (even against crappy teams) and immediatly jumped on the bandwagon :sleep:
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Half the people on this thread don't even realize that we're comparing opening weekend attendance. Of course ku wasn't going to have as many fans show up for a D-1AA opponent. The fact remains that ku had better attendance on opening weekend than K-State. Make all the excuses you want.
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ku inflates #'s, ksu disn't.
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That's a false statement. ku hasn't inflated attendance numbers since Al Bohl was AD. Like I said, make all the excuses you want.
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then don't come back wondering (wtf??) when your football revenue is half ours.
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I also wanna see ku take 5,000+ to their first road game. I drove to Auburn all through the night, and only slept 3 out of 28 hours just to see my team.
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I can't believe you gals are arguing over 1,000 people. Makes me laugh. On the other hand, we just had our 283rd consecutive sellout while each of you are at a whopping 0.
Out.
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I can't believe you gals are arguing over 1,000 people. Makes me laugh. On the other hand, we just had our 283rd consecutive sellout while each of you are at a whopping 0.
Out.
And who is "we"
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That's a false statement. ku hasn't inflated attendance numbers since Al Bohl was AD. Like I said, make all the excuses you want.
So, are you saying every single home basketball game has had exactly 16,300 people show up the last few years?
:billypopcorn:
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KSU should be able to fill our stadium, but our fans are pretty crapppy, imo. We're another 4-8, 5-7 season away from having sub 40K attendance at games.
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I can't believe you gals are arguing over 1,000 people. Makes me laugh. On the other hand, we just had our 283rd consecutive sellout while each of you are at a whopping 0.
Out.
Look at me! Look at me! I'm important, too! Please pay attention to me pretty please!
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Recruiting is going better for us!!!
:ksu: :ksu: :ksu:
ttt
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BMW...
Do you not have homework to do? You are like the fly that keeps buzzing around someone's head.
Get a life. Go back to your own board.
Jesus H.
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ku attendance vs. Central Michigan: 46,000+
K-State attendance vs. SJSU: 45,000
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On to what really matters in college football:
Avg Game 1 Revenue:
ku: 46K X $40/Ticket* = $1.84 Million
KSU: 45K X $50/Ticket* = $2.25 Million
KSU 22% Higher...Spin away ku fans.
*Average ticket prices from ku Star College Football preview August 26
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Actual crowd against the awful FBS team:
You say that like ku fans knew who they were playing that day.
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That's a false statement. ku hasn't inflated attendance numbers since Al Bohl was AD. Like I said, make all the excuses you want.
Then why does an infant need a ticket?
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(http://media.lawrence.com/img/photos/2007/09/01/ku_cmu_football_jh018_t800.jpg?90232451fbcadccc64a17de7521d859a8f88077d)
Can't wait until half time for that snack?
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The fact remains that ku had better attendance on opening weekend than K-State. Make all the excuses you want.
We didn't have a home game opening weekend.
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Half the people on this thread don't even realize that we're comparing opening weekend attendance. Of course ku wasn't going to have as many fans show up for a D-1AA opponent. The fact remains that ku had better attendance on opening weekend than K-State. Make all the excuses you want.
I have a friend (KSU alum) who is now at ku Med in KC....he said that they give out free ku football tickets at the clinic in KC. I have another friend (KSU student) who's sister goes to ku and he (the ksu student) can get free tickets through his sister, in fact his whole family was given tickets for the opening game.
KSU doesn't give tickets away to fill the stadium.
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I also saw at least 30 or so babies at the KSU game that would have counted towards attendance #'s had ku been keeping track of our #'s....
Seriously, why has no ku fan responded to this while still touting your attendance #'s?
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That's a false statement. ku hasn't inflated attendance numbers since Al Bohl was AD. Like I said, make all the excuses you want.
So, are you saying every single home basketball game has had exactly 16,300 people show up the last few years?
:billypopcorn:
A couple games may only have 15,000, which is announced in actual attendance, but not in the number of tickets sold. Every game at Allen Fieldhouse is a sellout.
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That's a false statement. ku hasn't inflated attendance numbers since Al Bohl was AD. Like I said, make all the excuses you want.
So, are you saying every single home basketball game has had exactly 16,300 people show up the last few years?
:billypopcorn:
A couple games may only have 15,000, which is announced in actual attendance, but not in the number of tickets sold. Every game at Allen Fieldhouse is a sellout.
The sellout # is the one printed in the stats. To compare apples to apples the numbers either need to be tickets dispersed (sold + given free or at reduced rate + children < 2 for KSU) or the # of people that walked through gate. KSU uses gate #'s and ku uses tickets dispersed. You can at least add 1 to KSU's # as my 2 yr old would count in ku's #'s. I saw 5 other children under two within 5 rows below us in the N endzone. I guess Lew found a way to increase tickets dispersed by sticking it to young parents.
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ku says there are 16,300 at every basketball game, even though there isn't. People like Hoax make a big deal out of KSU, when KSU actually tells you how many tickets were sold and how many people showed up.
In FY 2006, KSU had $7 million more in football revenue than did ku, but KSU only averaged about 2,000 or more per game than did ku.
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That's a false statement. ku hasn't inflated attendance numbers since Al Bohl was AD. Like I said, make all the excuses you want.
So, are you saying every single home basketball game has had exactly 16,300 people show up the last few years?
:billypopcorn:
A couple games may only have 15,000, which is announced in actual attendance, but not in the number of tickets sold. Every game at Allen Fieldhouse is a sellout.
So, you agree attendance smack is very lame?
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A couple of things to chew on.....
When the Hawks were supposedly going to become the team in the state of Kansas (1995), they got hammered by the Cats. Your team was ranked #6 in the nation and I saw many of your "fans" leaving the game after halftime. A reminder of the final - #14 KSU 41 #6 ku 7.
Therefore, as mentioned earlier in the thread, one ku fan does not equal one KSU fan in terms of loyalty and support. You are too busy worrying about how your hoops squad recently choked in (insert any NCAA tourney in the last decade).
The bottom line is, attendance figures really do not matter, we will kill you on Oct. 6th.
Prediction - Cats 28 Hawks 10
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It shouldn't be surprising that ku is drawing more fans for football than K-State.
KSU is a basketball school.
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A couple of things to chew on.....
When the Hawks were supposedly going to become the team in the state of Kansas (1995), they got hammered by the Cats. Your team was ranked #6 in the nation and I saw many of your "fans" leaving the game after halftime. A reminder of the final - #14 KSU 41 #6 ku 7.
Therefore, as mentioned earlier in the thread, one ku fan does not equal one KSU fan in terms of loyalty and support. You are too busy worrying about how your hoops squad recently choked in (insert any NCAA tourney in the last decade).
The bottom line is, attendance figures really do not matter, we will kill you on Oct. 6th.
Prediction - Cats 28 Hawks 10
Even though ku was ranked #6 in '95 and finished 10-2, the athletic department made no attempt to build on that success and promote the football program. Basketball was king and Roy Williams practically ran the entire athletic department.
This is 2007, and ku is no longer solely focused on men's basketball. The football program is improving each and every year, and ku has beaten K-State 2 out of the last 3 years. Once ku's football complex is completed, it will finally be a level playing field.
After watching both teams play, K-State will not score 28 points against ku's defense, and K-State's defense will not hold ku's offense to 10 points. You are simply delusional if you think otherwise.
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So when you go to a bowl one year, but then not the next year, that is called "improving" at ku??
If it's "improving" so much, why is your coach in a position where he needs to score all kinds of style points, run through cupcakes and get 7 wins or better to keep his job??
Again, why can't ku fans seem to grasp that your previous coach played three times as many games against ranked Big 12 North (and twice as many games against ranked teams total) opponents than your current coach has??
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If it's "improving" so much, why is your coach in a position where he needs to score all kinds of style points, run through cupcakes and get 7 wins or better to keep his job??
Because he is super fat and it is extremely embarrassing to the image obsessed Jayhawk fan base. Also, he doesn't wear nearly enough argyle patterns.
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So when you go to a bowl one year, but then not the next year, that is called "improving" at ku??
If it's "improving" so much, why is your coach in a position where he needs to score all kinds of style points, run through cupcakes and get 7 wins or better to keep his job??
Again, why can't ku fans seem to grasp that your previous coach played three times as many games against ranked Big 12 North (and twice as many games against ranked teams total) opponents than your current coach has??
Not everything's black and white. ku was an improved team last season, they just didn't finish games. The secondary was the main problem most of the season. You can deny the improvement and make arguments for Terry Allen all you want.
The improvement hasn't just been a product of Mangino. The entire fanbase has had an active role in improving the football program. The football facilities are just one example of how the football program is improving despite the on-field results. The attendance has also improved.
Mangino's on the hotseat because of his inability to get ku over the hump. We've been a competitive team that can win 6-7 games on a regular basis for the last few years, and now the fans want to see ku take the next step. If Mangino can't win at least 7 games with this schedule, then it's time to find a coach that can.
That being said, this is Mangino's best team since he's been here at ku. You can either take my word for it or find out for yourself on Oct. 6th when ku plays K-State.
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ku has beaten K-State 2 out of the last 3 years.
This 2 out of 3 nonsense must be standard ku talking points. Why not say 2 out or the last 4, or 2 out of the last 14?
I'm more intersted in your record in Manhattan. How about the fact that ku has not won in it's last 8 trips to the Little Apple?
10/8/2005 W 12 3
10/25/2003 W 42 6
10/27/2001 W 40 6
10/9/1999 W 50 9
11/8/1997 W 48 16
10/28/1995 W 41 7
10/9/1993 W 10 9
10/12/1991 W 16 12
An even more compelling argument against ku winning in Manhattan this year (or any year) is Mangino's horrid road record. Check my math, but isn't it something like 4-20 overall and 2-17 in the Big 12? (not including nuetral site games)
Congrats on beating KSU "2 out of the last 3 years". I'm eagerly waiting to find out if you can win one at our place. I will be the first to congratulate you if ku wins this year.
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I just think it's great my alma mater was able to experience what it's like to finally be on the winning side of a 64-0 score.
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I saw many of your "fans" leaving the game after halftime.
Don't question tradition.
kono
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I can't believe you gals are arguing over 1,000 people. Makes me laugh. On the other hand, we just had our 283rd consecutive sellout while each of you are at a whopping 0.
Out.
Sellouts huh? What else is there to do in Nebraska? I think I know the answer to that question. :peek:
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Come on now, Nebraska football has a lot to compete with..
Like..
Nebraska State football (Doesn't exist)
Creighton football (Doesn't have a football team)
Pro football (No pro franchises in Nebraska..or anywhere near it.)
Err..Surely there's another football team to support somewhere in Nebraska..
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Come on now, Nebraska football has a lot to compete with..
Like..
Nebraska State football (Doesn't exist)
Creighton football (Doesn't have a football team)
Pro football (No pro franchises in Nebraska..or anywhere near it.)
Err..Surely there's another football team to support somewhere in Nebraska..
Chadron State, or the Mighty Lopers or Mavericks.
FWIW UN-Omaha has a badass hockey team.
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Come on now, Nebraska football has a lot to compete with..
Like..
Nebraska State football (Doesn't exist)
Creighton football (Doesn't have a football team)
Pro football (No pro franchises in Nebraska..or anywhere near it.)
Err..Surely there's another football team to support somewhere in Nebraska..
Don't Chadron, Kearny, Doane, Wayne all have football teams? I know they all have cross-country/track as we competed against them. Glad UNK finally got rid of their building within a building indoor facility.
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I know a guy that's a fullback for Nub-Wesleyan. Stellar football program.
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So when you go to a bowl one year, but then not the next year, that is called "improving" at ku??
If it's "improving" so much, why is your coach in a position where he needs to score all kinds of style points, run through cupcakes and get 7 wins or better to keep his job??
Again, why can't ku fans seem to grasp that your previous coach played three times as many games against ranked Big 12 North (and twice as many games against ranked teams total) opponents than your current coach has??
Not everything's black and white. ku was an improved team last season, they just didn't finish games. The secondary was the main problem most of the season. You can deny the improvement and make arguments for Terry Allen all you want.
The improvement hasn't just been a product of Mangino. The entire fanbase has had an active role in improving the football program. The football facilities are just one example of how the football program is improving despite the on-field results. The attendance has also improved.
Mangino's on the hotseat because of his inability to get ku over the hump. We've been a competitive team that can win 6-7 games on a regular basis for the last few years, and now the fans want to see ku take the next step. If Mangino can't win at least 7 games with this schedule, then it's time to find a coach that can.
That being said, this is Mangino's best team since he's been here at ku. You can either take my word for it or find out for yourself on Oct. 6th when ku plays K-State.
So the improvement has been all but winning.
K-State Football . . . the standard by which ku football measures itself.
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Congrats to ku.
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The football program is improving each and every year,
2003 (3-5 conference record...Tangerine Bowl (pisspounded by NCState) (key win....can't remember)
2004 (3-5 conference record...no bowl) (key win=beat crapty Kstate team at home)
2005 (3-5 conference record...Ft. Worth Bowl) (key win crapty Nebraska team at home)
2006 (3-5 conference record...NO BOWL LOL!!! ) (key win=beat Kstate at home in their "bowl")
Yeap..improving each an every year.
Mabye Mangino can bring five wins to Lawrence with another directional.
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also.....the attendance figures for ku are counting the 5 month olds getting charged full price for a ticket.
if this was mentioned earlier in this thread...oh well...im too lazy to go through it all.
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The football program is improving each and every year,
2003 (3-5 conference record...Tangerine Bowl (pisspounded by NCState) (key win....can't remember)
2004 (3-5 conference record...no bowl) (key win=beat crapty Kstate team at home)
2005 (3-5 conference record...Ft. Worth Bowl) (key win crapty Nebraska team at home)
2006 (3-5 conference record...NO BOWL LOL!!! ) (key win=beat Kstate at home in their "bowl")
Yeap..improving each an every year.
Mabye Mangino can bring five wins to Lawrence with another directional.
You keep looking at only wins and losses. That's fine. I'm talking about overall football program improvement.
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I thought only dax cared about this kind of garbage. Wrong again.
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So when you go to a bowl one year, but then not the next year, that is called "improving" at ku??
If it's "improving" so much, why is your coach in a position where he needs to score all kinds of style points, run through cupcakes and get 7 wins or better to keep his job??
Again, why can't ku fans seem to grasp that your previous coach played three times as many games against ranked Big 12 North (and twice as many games against ranked teams total) opponents than your current coach has??
Not everything's black and white. ku was an improved team last season, they just didn't finish games. The secondary was the main problem most of the season. You can deny the improvement and make arguments for Terry Allen all you want.
The improvement hasn't just been a product of Mangino. The entire fanbase has had an active role in improving the football program. The football facilities are just one example of how the football program is improving despite the on-field results. The attendance has also improved.
Mangino's on the hotseat because of his inability to get ku over the hump. We've been a competitive team that can win 6-7 games on a regular basis for the last few years, and now the fans want to see ku take the next step. If Mangino can't win at least 7 games with this schedule, then it's time to find a coach that can.
That being said, this is Mangino's best team since he's been here at ku. You can either take my word for it or find out for yourself on Oct. 6th when ku plays K-State.
So the improvement has been all but winning.
K-State Football . . . the standard by which ku football measures itself.
The improvement has been all but winning games on the road. ku has taken care of business against our rivals over the last few years and we've been pretty tough to beat at home.
ku wants to be the best Big 12 North team and that starts by beating rivals Mizzou and K-State. ku took another step last season when they went out and dominated Iowa State on the road. That hadn't been done in the past, even against crap teams. Right now I don't see a big talent gap between ku and Nebraska like there was in the past. Colorado is still recovering from a coaching change. The Big 12 North is wide open right now and I don't see any team that has looked better than ku so far.
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Yet when it was all said and done, yet another losing conference record and no bowl game . . . no signficant movement by ku over 6 years during a time frame when the Big 12 North is a shadow of is former self. Mangino's conference record 11-29.
Oh wait, it's not about winning and losing, nobody is improving their facilities, only ku, nobody else is spending more money on football only ku.
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I can handle losing a game or two to ku, but if I have to watch them in a CCG I think I might puke.
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Yet when it was all said and done, yet another losing conference record and no bowl game . . . no signficant movement by ku over 6 years during a time frame when the Big 12 North is a shadow of is former self. Mangino's conference record 11-29.
Oh wait, it's not about winning and losing, nobody is improving their facilities, only ku, nobody else is spending more money on football only ku.
The Big 12 North is a shadow of its former self because of the drop-off by K-State and Nebraska. ku has been consistenty bad up until '03 when we showed some signs of life and in my opinion, ku has gradually improved ever since.
While your point that all Big 12 teams are improving their facilities, that doesn't diminish the fact that ku is taking a big step in the right direction.
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Again, no real significant movement by ku in the Big 12 North after 6 years under Mangino, despite how bad the North has been for the past 3 years. But I keep forgetting, it's not about wins and losses.
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Nothing in the big picture of CFB is about wins and losses. Just ask Notre Dame and Michigan.
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I liked BMW's "getting us over the hump" comment...the definition of "hump" is largely known as a loose one at best. Pinkle would be described by most as a coach unable to get his team over the proverbial "hump". Mangino? Not even close (except in facilities and moral victories).
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also.....the attendance figures for ku are counting the 5 month olds getting charged full price for a ticket.
if this was mentioned earlier in this thread...oh well...im too lazy to go through it all.
It was actually mention twice in this thread, but no matter... ku fans will ignore this post just like the previous two.
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Who's to say infants and toddlers don't enjoy the game too? They're humans they have eyes. Besides who wouldn't want to get into Memorial? Paying for admittance to a game is a privilege. Oh, and I'm gay.
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The Big 12 North is a shadow of its former self because of the drop-off by K-State and Nebraska. ku has been consistenty bad up until '03 when we showed some signs of life and in my opinion, ku has gradually improved ever since.
While your point that all Big 12 teams are improving their facilities, that doesn't diminish the fact that ku is taking a big step in the right direction.
or ku has gotten no better, the top of the Big 12 (KSU and NU as admitted by you) just got worse than they were. Winning road games would be a sign of getting better...not beating teams that are simply getting worse.
Does Memorial have turnstiles or scanned tickets yet? I can't remember if they did last year....I know in the past they didn't...if not, how can you put in faith in the numbers they announce?
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Is it really that slow today, that we are arguing with ku fans over attendance? C'mon, Lawrence hasn't seen good football for years(except when KSU came to town.) They win one worthless game against a worthless team and they come running. All it will take is another embarressing loss, you know its coming ku, and the fans will retreat back to their homes and grumble "only a few more weeks till basketball."
They are a fickle fan-base, that had one game where attendance may have been better than KSU and they think means something. :jerkoff:
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After watching both teams play, K-State will not score 28 points against ku's defense, and K-State's defense will not hold ku's offense to 10 points. You are simply delusional if you think otherwise.
You watched all four games played??? McFly is that you?
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you guys need to get ur facts right. We had above 45,500 at the san jose game
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Central Michigan is currently the 110th rated defense in D1 college football, SEL currently 98th in total defense in FCS aka D1AA.
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ku is 3rd in total offense and 4th in total defense per NCAASports.com.
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ku is 3rd in total offense and 4th in total defense per NCAASports.com.
(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/boredcat-isbored.jpg)
kono
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ku is 3rd in total offense and 4th in total defense per NCAASports.com.
Better hold on to that one BMW...enjoy it while it is short lived.
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The ksu fans should be ashamed. Quit making sh1tty excuses. We have a lot of fickle fans that are used to winning and not coming to these non-con games. Hell, we couldn't even sell out the USC game. We flat out didn't get as many people in our stadium as ku. Get over it. KSU fans can make excuses till their blue in the face, but we just flat out look like crap. Give it up. :ksu:
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Is this a serious debate? Who cares. This is one of the stupidest threads I've read. Both teams have bandwagon fans. When ku was terrible no one showed up for football. Before Ksu had huggins no one went to basketball games. When my mom went to Ksu they went to the games for free and could bring coolers in. The only true fans are Chiefs fans. They continue to sell out even though they suck.
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Well BMDubya' you basically said it yourself, but seem to lack comprehension skills enough to interpret your own drivel. Mangino's "success" is a product of a KSU, Nubb and CU fall off, not some great turnaround on ku's part. If you haved dilusions of this team (or last year's team) competing with any of the great teams that Allen had to face every year (and Mangino faced in his early years) you're fooling yourself.
Need some perspective? The 40ish year streak vs. NU was broken over a 5-7 NU team. Easily the worst NU team in half a century. Congrats! Allen had the disadvantage of matching up against a Nubb team that lost a TOTAL of 9 games in Allen's entire 5 years at ku. Against KSU your "amazing resurgence" came against a 4-7 KSU team and an average by KSU standards 7-5 team. In Allen's 5 years KSU lost a TOTAL of 11 games. Mangino would have gotten POUNDED by those teams as did Allen. Timing is everything and Mangino has been fortunate.
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In Allen's 5 years KSU lost a TOTAL of 11 games.
omg! omg! :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:
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The only true fans are Chiefs fans. They continue to sell out even though they suck.
The chiefs have lost a LOT of fans in the last two years. In fact, they are scraping around the bottom of the barrel to continue their 'sell-out' streak this year. There is no 5k person wait list like there was during marty ball. This is fact.
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The only true fans are Chiefs fans. They continue to sell out even though they suck.
The chiefs have lost a LOT of fans in the last two years. In fact, they are scraping around the bottom of the barrel to continue their 'sell-out' streak this year. There is no 5k person wait list like there was during marty ball. This is fact.
Actually there still is a waiting list, it's just for lower level tickets. It's pretty impressive the Chiefs have still been able to sell out the 3rd biggest stadium in the NFL in one of the smaller markets.
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In Allen's 5 years KSU lost a TOTAL of 11 games.
omg! omg! :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:
At least 2 of those were to National Champions.
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Pulling out statistics such as the ku offensive and defensive rankings at this point in the season, as if ku has played a schedule on par with, oh, about 100 NCAA D1 football teams, is ridiculous. They have not played anyone, so don't tell me they have this amazing offense.
But, this is not the craziest thing BMW claimed, prove to me that the difference between talent in Lincoln and that in Lawrence is not much!!!
PS - Facilities still won't make Mangino lose weight, talk about a barrier to attracting recruits. Honestly, who would play for his gigando-a%$ ? Even Gary Pinkel would be more impressive and I consider him one of the worst coaches in the conference.
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ku is 3rd in total offense and 4th in total defense per NCAASports.com.
and this time two years ago Thomas Clayton was the nations leading rusher.