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Sports => Frank Martin's OOD sponsored by the "Angriest Fans in America" => Topic started by: BMWJhawk on September 09, 2007, 10:31:29 PM
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The Rivals update looks promising for ku. Little said that the two visits to K-State and Illinois might not take place.
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LOL
How many times have you had this thread only to be eliminated within a week by the recruit?
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Ummm... never?
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^LOL
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The Rivals update looks promising for ku. Little said that the two visits to K-State and Illinois might not take place.
Not what he said, but nice try.
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since i cant quote the premium where he said this, care to post the quote refuting bmw's claim?
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http://kansas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=711941
if anyone has premium they can clearly read about how wrong wildwillie is. why would you question someone who has read direct quotes saying that he might not take his final 2 visits?
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since i cant quote the premium where he said this, care to post the quote refuting bmw's claim?
"I'm not really sure about my final two visits," said Little. "I've got something thinking to do about that. I am scheduled to visit Kansas State next weekend and then visit Illinois on September 28. I just don't know what I'm going to do next.
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Remember when Warren LOVED ku? When he would commit right away?
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They really are scared that they are battling for recruits with us. It's very humorous.
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"I'm not really sure about my final two visits," said Little.
Thank you for proving my point! Dumbass. Just because he said he has 2 scheduled visits lined up does not mean he will actually take them, hence him being UNSURE ABOUT HIS FINAL 2 VISITS!
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They went bowling on his official visit. I would LOL at a f*cking school if my big thing was to go bowling. Yep, Lawrence is really a happenin' place. :rolleyes:
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"I'm not really sure about my final two visits," said Little.
Thank you for proving my point! Dumbass. Just because he said he has 2 scheduled visits lined up does not mean he will actually take them, hence him being UNSURE ABOUT HIS FINAL 2 VISITS!
Never once did he say he wasn't going to go or that he may not go to either of them dumbass. He could be referring to a change in his schedule. Maybe he wants to see us punk your a$$ in football. You nor I talked to him and we don't know how the question was posed or exactly what he meant. But if you guys do land him congrats.
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They went bowling on his official visit. I would LOL at a f*cking school if my big thing was to go bowling. Yep, Lawrence is really a happenin' place. :rolleyes:
The campus alley sucks ass too. And the only okay place in Lawrence is overrun by middle schoolers.
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How Elite. ku fans now bragging about MAYBE beating us out for a recruit.
LOL. My how the mighty have fallen............
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They went bowling on his official visit. I would LOL at a f*cking school if my big thing was to go bowling. Yep, Lawrence is really a happenin' place. :rolleyes:
The campus alley sucks ass too. And the only okay place in Lawrence is overrun by middle schoolers.
Wait, are you talking about bowling alleys? :confused:
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And never once did bmw say that he definitely wasn't going to visit! You should take a class on reading comprehension. I will break it down for you:
"Little said that the two visits to K-State and Illinois might not take place."
"I'm not really sure about my final two visits," said Little."
BMW said that his visits might be cancelled. You refuted this claim, then you posted a quote by Little saying that he is "not really sure" about his finil visits, thus proving bmw's point that he MIGHT NOT take his final visits!
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They went bowling on his official visit. I would LOL at a f*cking school if my big thing was to go bowling. Yep, Lawrence is really a happenin' place. :rolleyes:
The campus alley sucks ass too. And the only okay place in Lawrence is overrun by middle schoolers.
Wait, are you talking about bowling alleys? :confused:
Sorry, tangent. I grew up in Lawrence. I'm an expert on their bowling alleys. :thumbsup:
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damnit stupid bold button on this thing &@#%ed it all up.
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damnit stupid bold button on this thing fracked it all up.
Those bold buttons have minds of their own.
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my point is still clear that the idiot refuted bmw's claim then proved it with a quote from little. i hope he is not/not going to be a lawyer.
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my point is still clear that the idiot refuted bmw's claim then proved it with a quote from little. i hope he is not/not going to be a lawyer.
I'm almost sure he is/is.
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They went bowling on his official visit. I would LOL at a f*cking school if my big thing was to go bowling. Yep, Lawrence is really a happenin' place. :rolleyes:
You would really "LOL"? Damn dude, that's hardcore!
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And never once did bmw say that he definitely wasn't going to visit! You should take a class on reading comprehension. I will break it down for you:
"Little said that the two visits to K-State and Illinois might not take place."
"I'm not really sure about my final two visits," said Little."
BMW said that his visits might be cancelled. You refuted this claim, then you posted a quote by Little saying that he is "not really sure" about his finil visits, thus proving bmw's point that he MIGHT NOT take his final visits!
Please re-read my post again. I didn't say anything about what BMW said. I just simply stated that he(Little) never directly said anything about not going to either of them, and he didn't. Like I said, you nor I did the interview (a jayhawkslant employee did) and we don't know what was asked, how it was asked, and what was meant, however, we can assume, which you are extremely quick to do. Anyway I'm about 1/10 as worried about it as you are, so yeah, good luck landing the kid.
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They went bowling on his official visit. I would LOL at a f*cking school if my big thing was to go bowling. Yep, Lawrence is really a happenin' place. :rolleyes:
You would really "LOL"? Damn dude, that's hardcore!
I would. I also LOL at the fact that you claim to be such a huge fan and don't even manage to watch the whole game for two games in a row. I also recall you not attending games at AFH last year because the first drink at a bar was free or something.
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When all else fails, question my devotion to ku athletics.
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When all else fails, question my devotion to ku athletics.
You missed a ballgame for a free drink? Queer. That's shameful. Not even kidding.
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When all else fails, question my devotion to ku athletics.
What has failed? Our recruiting class last year looked better than yours and our recruiting class this year will probably turn out just as good as yours. The only thing I said (which didn't fail) was that it was pretty f*cking pathetic that Little was taken bowling on his official visit. If he was a big time recruit (the ones ku should be recruiting because they are elite and everything) then I'm pretty sure he would die LOL-ing. It's pretty bad when the ELITE school that is ku has to fall back on JUCO kids because all of the legit high school talent has realized that Self can't coach for sh*t.
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When all else fails, question my devotion to ku athletics.
What has failed? Our recruiting class last year looked better than yours and our recruiting class this year will probably turn out just as good as yours. The only thing I said (which didn't fail) was that it was pretty f*cking pathetic that Little was taken bowling on his official visit. If he was a big time recruit (the ones ku should be recruiting because they are elite and everything) then I'm pretty sure he would die LOL-ing. It's pretty bad when the ELITE school that is ku has to fall back on JUCO kids because all of the legit high school talent has realized that Self can't coach for sh*t.
I wish I knew where to start... but first I just want to know when you morphed into such a hateful douchebag.
1. Julian Wright, Sherron Collins, and Cole Aldrich took Mario Little bowling one night for some good clean fun. Little played high school and AAU ball with Julian and Sherron.
2. Little got the royal treatment this weekend and had dinner at Self's house. He was clearly blown away on his visit and has hinted that he might not even visit K-State and Illinois.
3. LOL @ K-State's '08 recruiting class being as good as ku's.
4. ku needs to sign a Juco player or two to balance the scholarships. Like I've said, there are at least 6-7 guys who will be leaving this season due to graduation or NBA Draft, and ku is going to have a lot of holes to fill.
5. If Self can't coach for sh*t, please explain what it takes to be a good coach. He's one of the only coaches to take three different teams to the Elite Eight and he has owned the Big 12 since arriving at ku. Frank Martin would be a good example of "can't coach for sh*t."
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When all else fails, question my devotion to ku athletics.
What has failed? Our recruiting class last year looked better than yours and our recruiting class this year will probably turn out just as good as yours. The only thing I said (which didn't fail) was that it was pretty f*cking pathetic that Little was taken bowling on his official visit. If he was a big time recruit (the ones ku should be recruiting because they are elite and everything) then I'm pretty sure he would die LOL-ing. It's pretty bad when the ELITE school that is ku has to fall back on JUCO kids because all of the legit high school talent has realized that Self can't coach for sh*t.
I wish I knew where to start... but first I just want to know when you morphed into such a hateful douchebag.
1. Julian Wright, Sherron Collins, and Cole Aldrich took Mario Little bowling one night for some good clean fun. Little played high school and AAU ball with Julian and Sherron.
2. Little got the royal treatment this weekend and had dinner at Self's house. He was clearly blown away on his visit and has hinted that he might not even visit K-State and Illinois.
3. LOL @ K-State's '08 recruiting class being as good as ku's.
4. ku needs to sign a Juco player or two to balance the scholarships. Like I've said, there are at least 6-7 guys who will be leaving this season due to graduation or NBA Draft, and ku is going to have a lot of holes to fill.
5. If Self can't coach for sh*t, please explain what it takes to be a good coach. He's one of the only coaches to take three different teams to the Elite Eight and he has owned the Big 12 since arriving at ku. Frank Martin would be a good example of "can't coach for sh*t."
You've never even seen him coach.
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When all else fails, question my devotion to ku athletics.
What has failed? Our recruiting class last year looked better than yours and our recruiting class this year will probably turn out just as good as yours. The only thing I said (which didn't fail) was that it was pretty f*cking pathetic that Little was taken bowling on his official visit. If he was a big time recruit (the ones ku should be recruiting because they are elite and everything) then I'm pretty sure he would die LOL-ing. It's pretty bad when the ELITE school that is ku has to fall back on JUCO kids because all of the legit high school talent has realized that Self can't coach for sh*t.
I wish I knew where to start... but first I just want to know when you morphed into such a hateful douchebag.
1. Julian Wright, Sherron Collins, and Cole Aldrich took Mario Little bowling one night for some good clean fun. Little played high school and AAU ball with Julian and Sherron.
2. Little got the royal treatment this weekend and had dinner at Self's house. He was clearly blown away on his visit and has hinted that he might not even visit K-State and Illinois.
3. LOL @ K-State's '08 recruiting class being as good as ku's.
4. ku needs to sign a Juco player or two to balance the scholarships. Like I've said, there are at least 6-7 guys who will be leaving this season due to graduation or NBA Draft, and ku is going to have a lot of holes to fill.
5. If Self can't coach for sh*t, please explain what it takes to be a good coach. He's one of the only coaches to take three different teams to the Elite Eight and he has owned the Big 12 since arriving at ku. Frank Martin would be a good example of "can't coach for sh*t."
LOL @ the royal treatment being dinner with the Selfs and bowling with the guys that like to shave cool designs into their hair. Call me a hateful douche bag but it's not my fault that your entire basketball team is made up of exactly that....douche bags.
You have one overrated four star that is plummeting in the rankings that didn't even want to attend ku. He's attending ku because his mother is making him. He sucks in games with legit competition and when they won't let him just hang out behind the arc and shoot it. Anytime a team plays legitimate defense on him he folds and doesn't do well. He hasn't done well in his regular high school games that often and that's against sub-par competition. While we're most likely going to land Witherspoon, a guy that could end up being a 5 star before all is said and done.
You have no idea if Martin can coach, you dumbass. Nothing is available to suggest otherwise, unless you want to check out his high school days where he routinely owned the Miami area [a feat that's not much different than owning the Big XII (a football conference)]. I have tons of supporting evidence that suggests Self can't coach. How about how often he chokes in the tournament? How about the UCLA game last year? How about the time he's been outcoached by guys that coach teams like Oral Roberts and URI? He's been winning on talent and talent alone for some time. Tell me two players that have legitimately improved their stock over the time that they've had Self as a coach (when it was his doing). You can't. After the past two years of recruiting it looks like kids are finally catching on to what we all knew...that Self can't coach for sh*t.
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When all else fails, question my devotion to ku athletics.
What has failed? Our recruiting class last year looked better than yours and our recruiting class this year will probably turn out just as good as yours. The only thing I said (which didn't fail) was that it was pretty f*cking pathetic that Little was taken bowling on his official visit. If he was a big time recruit (the ones ku should be recruiting because they are elite and everything) then I'm pretty sure he would die LOL-ing. It's pretty bad when the ELITE school that is ku has to fall back on JUCO kids because all of the legit high school talent has realized that Self can't coach for sh*t.
I wish I knew where to start... but first I just want to know when you morphed into such a hateful douchebag.
1. Julian Wright, Sherron Collins, and Cole Aldrich took Mario Little bowling one night for some good clean fun. Little played high school and AAU ball with Julian and Sherron.
2. Little got the royal treatment this weekend and had dinner at Self's house. He was clearly blown away on his visit and has hinted that he might not even visit K-State and Illinois.
3. LOL @ K-State's '08 recruiting class being as good as ku's.
4. ku needs to sign a Juco player or two to balance the scholarships. Like I've said, there are at least 6-7 guys who will be leaving this season due to graduation or NBA Draft, and ku is going to have a lot of holes to fill.
5. If Self can't coach for sh*t, please explain what it takes to be a good coach. He's one of the only coaches to take three different teams to the Elite Eight and he has owned the Big 12 since arriving at ku. Frank Martin would be a good example of "can't coach for sh*t."
LOL @ the royal treatment being dinner with the Selfs and bowling with the guys that like to shave cool designs into their hair. Call me a hateful douche bag but it's not my fault that your entire basketball team is made up of exactly that....douche bags.
You have one overrated four star that is plummeting in the rankings that didn't even want to attend ku. He's attending ku because his mother is making him. He sucks in games with legit competition and when they won't let him just hang out behind the arc and shoot it. Anytime a team plays legitimate defense on him he folds and doesn't do well. He hasn't done well in his regular high school games that often and that's against sub-par competition. While we're most likely going to land Witherspoon, a guy that could end up being a 5 star before all is said and done.
You have no idea if Martin can coach, you dumbass. Nothing is available to suggest otherwise, unless you want to check out his high school days where he routinely owned the Miami area [a feat that's not much different than owning the Big XII (a football conference)]. I have tons of supporting evidence that suggests Self can't coach. How about how often he chokes in the tournament? How about the UCLA game last year? How about the time he's been outcoached by guys that coach teams like Oral Roberts and URI? He's been winning on talent and talent alone for some time. Tell me two players that have legitimately improved their stock over the time that they've had Self as a coach (when it was his doing). You can't. After the past two years of recruiting it looks like kids are finally catching on to what we all knew...that Self can't coach for sh*t.
ouch!!! :thumbsup:
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So I guess if we take him Cosmic Bowling and let him have dinner with the Weefer and Coach Martin, he's ours?
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since i cant quote the premium where he said this, care to post the quote refuting bmw's claim?
Whoops. http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=9645.0
Whoops 2. http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=8886.0
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The season is right around the corner, I for one am willing to wait and see what coach Martin does, enjoy Bobbys class it will be the last one of its kind in Manhattan.
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"I'm not really sure about my final two visits," said Little. "I've got something thinking to do about that. I am scheduled to visit Kansas State next weekend and then visit Illinois on September 28. I just don't know what I'm going to do next.
Little visits:
1. ku 9/8
2. KSU 9/15
3. Illinois 9/29
4. TBD
5. TBD
Sounds like Little might indeed "cancel" the last two on that list.
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"I'm not really sure about my final two visits," said Little. "I've got something thinking to do about that. I am scheduled to visit Kansas State next weekend and then visit Illinois on September 28. I just don't know what I'm going to do next.
Little visits:
1. ku 9/8
2. KSU 9/15
3. Illinois 9/29
4. TBD
5. TBD
Sounds like Little might indeed "cancel" the last two on that list.
we have a winner!
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When all else fails, question my devotion to ku athletics.
What has failed? Our recruiting class last year looked better than yours and our recruiting class this year will probably turn out just as good as yours. The only thing I said (which didn't fail) was that it was pretty f*cking pathetic that Little was taken bowling on his official visit. If he was a big time recruit (the ones ku should be recruiting because they are elite and everything) then I'm pretty sure he would die LOL-ing. It's pretty bad when the ELITE school that is ku has to fall back on JUCO kids because all of the legit high school talent has realized that Self can't coach for sh*t.
I wish I knew where to start... but first I just want to know when you morphed into such a hateful douchebag.
1. Julian Wright, Sherron Collins, and Cole Aldrich took Mario Little bowling one night for some good clean fun. Little played high school and AAU ball with Julian and Sherron.
2. Little got the royal treatment this weekend and had dinner at Self's house. He was clearly blown away on his visit and has hinted that he might not even visit K-State and Illinois.
3. LOL @ K-State's '08 recruiting class being as good as ku's.
4. ku needs to sign a Juco player or two to balance the scholarships. Like I've said, there are at least 6-7 guys who will be leaving this season due to graduation or NBA Draft, and ku is going to have a lot of holes to fill.
5. If Self can't coach for sh*t, please explain what it takes to be a good coach. He's one of the only coaches to take three different teams to the Elite Eight and he has owned the Big 12 since arriving at ku. Frank Martin would be a good example of "can't coach for sh*t."
LOL @ the royal treatment being dinner with the Selfs and bowling with the guys that like to shave cool designs into their hair. Call me a hateful douche bag but it's not my fault that your entire basketball team is made up of exactly that....douche bags.
You have one overrated four star that is plummeting in the rankings that didn't even want to attend ku. He's attending ku because his mother is making him. He sucks in games with legit competition and when they won't let him just hang out behind the arc and shoot it. Anytime a team plays legitimate defense on him he folds and doesn't do well. He hasn't done well in his regular high school games that often and that's against sub-par competition. While we're most likely going to land Witherspoon, a guy that could end up being a 5 star before all is said and done.
You have no idea if Martin can coach, you dumbass. Nothing is available to suggest otherwise, unless you want to check out his high school days where he routinely owned the Miami area [a feat that's not much different than owning the Big XII (a football conference)]. I have tons of supporting evidence that suggests Self can't coach. How about how often he chokes in the tournament? How about the UCLA game last year? How about the time he's been outcoached by guys that coach teams like Oral Roberts and URI? He's been winning on talent and talent alone for some time. Tell me two players that have legitimately improved their stock over the time that they've had Self as a coach (when it was his doing). You can't. After the past two years of recruiting it looks like kids are finally catching on to what we all knew...that Self can't coach for sh*t.
You're so off it's not even funny. Travis Releford is ranked #27 in the RSCI, the only objective ranking system out there. He put up 28 points on Jrue Holiday, a top five guard prospect. Also, let's not forget he had an offer from K-State. So there goes your entire argument.
ku is gaining ground on Witherspoon and will conduct an in-home visit on Tuesday or Thursday. At some point you'll just have to realize that when ku and K-State are competing for a recruit, ku is going to win that battle 90% of the time.
LOL @ your temper tantrum about how Martin has proven himself at the high school level and Self can't coach because he lost to a back-to-back Final Four team in the Elite Eight. How do you explain what he did at Tulsa with average talent? This should be good.
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Releford will plummet when RSCI updates his plummeting rankings from Rivals and Scout.
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Comparatively speaking, ku's '07 and '08 recruiting classes have not been ku-esque.
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Releford will plummet when RSCI updates his plummeting rankings from Rivals and Scout.
He won't be ranked any lower than Dominique Sutton was.
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Releford will plummet when RSCI updates his plummeting rankings from Rivals and Scout.
He won't be ranked any lower than Dominique Sutton was.
LOL. Comparing your star to our third best recruit.
LO f'ing L.
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Releford will plummet when RSCI updates his plummeting rankings from Rivals and Scout.
He won't be ranked any lower than Dominique Sutton was.
LOL. Comparing your star to our third best recruit.
LO f'ing L.
QFT.
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Releford will plummet when RSCI updates his plummeting rankings from Rivals and Scout.
He won't be ranked any lower than Dominique Sutton was.
LOL. Comparing your star to our third best recruit.
LO f'ing L.
Our "star?"
LOL. You act like ku is done signing players for '08.
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Releford will plummet when RSCI updates his plummeting rankings from Rivals and Scout.
He won't be ranked any lower than Dominique Sutton was.
LOL. Comparing your star to our third best recruit.
LO f'ing L.
Our "star?"
LOL. You act like ku is done signing players for '08.
Who are you in on that's better?
Witherspoon?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Let's see at ku he got to hang out with a first round draft pick, and they went bowling and to a football game. at kstate he will get to hang out with a probable first round draft pick and they can go write on things with markers.
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Let's have some rational thinking here. ku was his first visit and he was impressed. 18-20 year old kids are almost always impressed with every visit they make. They don't get to eat a good steak, meet head coaches. or have a pickup game with players they have watched on TV every day. Certainly ku has the credentials to impress beyond the average school.
Still, as time passes the thrill of the visit diminishes somewhat. Further, why not go eat another good steak and have more fun? (Maybe we can treat him to a game of miniature golf!)
If he has good advisors, or if he has any sense, he will probably take more visits. In this particular case, I think there is a pretty good chance he will visit K-State. Why? We have had commitments from this junior college two years in a row (Hannah, Dubovitsky), neither of whom made it to Manhattan. His coach, Heier, knows that Martin knows a lot of people in Miami and can help direct Miami kids to Chipola. My guess is Heier will do the best he can to get him to visit us, and probably Illinois also.
If he doesn't make the visit to Manhattan and signs with ku, we move on. There are other similar players in the juco ranks.
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Yeah, Heier owes us big time.
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it still amazes me how much smarter bmw is than the chandler kid from umkc. i don't see how they can be friends with such an intellectual gap.
too bad about the little update, btw.
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Given the recent changes at Illinois, I doubt he visits there.
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Releford will plummet when RSCI updates his plummeting rankings from Rivals and Scout.
He won't be ranked any lower than Dominique Sutton was.
LOL. Comparing your star to our third best recruit.
LO f'ing L.
Our "star?"
LOL. You act like ku is done signing players for '08.
Who are you in on that's better?
Witherspoon?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
J'Mison Mogan would be a place to start.
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J'Mison Mogan would be a place to start.
isn't it uk, then bu, then ku for him at the moment?
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Releford will plummet when RSCI updates his plummeting rankings from Rivals and Scout.
He won't be ranked any lower than Dominique Sutton was.
LOL. Comparing your star to our third best recruit.
LO f'ing L.
Our "star?"
LOL. You act like ku is done signing players for '08.
Who are you in on that's better?
Witherspoon?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
J'Mison Mogan would be a place to start.
You mean #51 on RSCI?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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I think you're thinking of Willie Warren, who has ku 2nd, behind Oklahoma and tied with Texas.
J'Mison Morgan is best friends with Darrell Arthur and attends the same high school. He has visited ku on multiple occasions and has hinted that ku is the team to beat in the past. I have no idea who his leader is at the moment, but ku has a definite advantage with Arthur on our side.
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I think you're thinking of Willie Warren, who has ku 2nd, behind Oklahoma and tied with Texas.
J'Mison Morgan is best friends with Darrell Arthur and attends the same high school. He has visited ku on multiple occasions and has hinted that ku is the team to beat in the past. I have no idea who his leader is at the moment, but ku has a definite advantage with Arthur on our side.
Arthur will be gone before J'Mison gets there. Not a very good advantage.
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Releford will plummet when RSCI updates his plummeting rankings from Rivals and Scout.
He won't be ranked any lower than Dominique Sutton was.
LOL. Comparing your star to our third best recruit.
LO f'ing L.
Our "star?"
LOL. You act like ku is done signing players for '08.
Who are you in on that's better?
Witherspoon?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
J'Mison Mogan would be a place to start.
You mean #51 on RSCI?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I didn't realize he was ranked that low in RSCI. I was going off of his #23 Rivals ranking.
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I think you're thinking of Willie Warren, who has ku 2nd, behind Oklahoma and tied with Texas.
J'Mison Morgan is best friends with Darrell Arthur and attends the same high school. He has visited ku on multiple occasions and has hinted that ku is the team to beat in the past. I have no idea who his leader is at the moment, but ku has a definite advantage with Arthur on our side.
no, i mean morgan. i'm going off baylorfans rumors. sure those people are delusional drewlaid drinkers, but drew seems to have a comparable effect on a fair number of recruits.
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You're so off it's not even funny. Travis Releford is ranked #27 in the RSCI, the only objective ranking system out there. He put up 28 points on Jrue Holiday, a top five guard prospect. Also, let's not forget he had an offer from K-State. So there goes your entire argument.
ku is gaining ground on Witherspoon and will conduct an in-home visit on Tuesday or Thursday. At some point you'll just have to realize that when ku and K-State are competing for a recruit, ku is going to win that battle 90% of the time.
LOL @ your temper tantrum about how Martin has proven himself at the high school level and Self can't coach because he lost to a back-to-back Final Four team in the Elite Eight. How do you explain what he did at Tulsa with average talent? This should be good.
As Rusty has already pointed out for you...Releford will plummet once the RSCI updates their rankings. Chances are that he had a good Summer on the AAU circuit, got a lot of attention and now is falling down the rankings. It happens to kids all of the time. Herb Pope comes to mind.
He put 28 points up on another guard? Wow. In what, another AAU game? I'm going to guess that not much defense was played. Like I already said, if you let Releford hang out at the top of the key and give him room then he's going to smoke you. But the minute you play close on him and play defense then he is screwed because he has nothing else. I've seen it personally and I've read it in several articles about the kid.
And it's funny that all of a sudden if K-State offers a recruit it means the kid is good. So, where's all of that talk about Colon being an all-star? How about Gilbert? No? It's pretty obvious how far ku basketball has fallen.
We've already had an in-home visit with Witherspoon. We were the first school to do so. ku has come in too late with Witherspoon. He isn't the type of kid that's enamored with the big schools. It's going to be between us and George Washington (because his brother plays there). He likes that we've been with him since the beginning, we were one of his first offers (good coaches see a kids potential and recruit that kid, they don't just go look at some recruiting rankings). ku doesn't have a prayer with Witherspoon. And just to remind you, we beat you guys out for Sutton last year.
I'll show you a temper tantrum if you want to see one. Go check out the Litter Box and read the thread titled "BMW", I bet you get a laugh. My favorite quote, "Bookcat must be an anorexic cum swallowing faggot since he's so skinny, I don't go to the rec with fags!" I still can't believe you're too blind to recognize Self's choke jobs. I guess the UCLA defense made your team miss all of those layups? It's funny that you dodged my question about players that have improved under Self.
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Releford put up 28 on RSCI #2 overall prospect Jrue Holiday. Holiday is one of the best defenders in the country. No joke.
Obviously K-State has offered some pretty bad players in the past. However, I wouldn't include Releford in that same category. Put your bias aside for one minute and tell me that K-State wouldn't love to have the #27 overall player in '08 right about now.
As for the missed layups vs. UCLA, are you really blaming that on Coach Self?
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free little visit info. i hope this doesn't offend shay!
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Releford put up 28 on RSCI #2 overall prospect Jrue Holiday. Holiday is one of the best defenders in the country. No joke.
Obviously K-State has offered some pretty bad players in the past. However, I wouldn't include Releford in that same category. Put your bias aside for one minute and tell me that K-State wouldn't love to have the #27 overall player in '08 right about now.
As for the missed layups vs. UCLA, are you really blaming that on Coach Self?
I understand that he put up 28 on this kid. That doesn't mean the kid played him like Releford will be played in a game. Defense isn't played too hard in a lot of games like the one they would have been in. I've read and seen that all you have to do is guard Releford tight and don't give him a cushion at the top of the key and he disappears. He can step up and hit a shot but if someone's in his face then he can't do anything.
It's funny that you're hooking on that RSCI ranking. It's a compilation of a bunch of different rankings right? And since they released it, Releford has plummeted in both Scout and Rivals's rankings right? He won't be so high up once they update. And for you question...there are quite a few players who I would take other than Releford. One of the reasons he got his offer so soon is because he's an instate kid. If Releford played ball somewhere other than the Midwest then I can almost guarantee that he wouldn't have gotten an offer.
Not being prepared for a game and being focused - yeah I can put that on Self. I also put the losses to Bucknell, Bradley, Oral Roberts, Depaul, Wyoming, URI, etc. all on Self. Are you ever going to answer my question about what players have improved under Self or have you just come to the realization that few if any have done so?
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Releford put up 28 on RSCI #2 overall prospect Jrue Holiday. Holiday is one of the best defenders in the country. No joke.
Obviously K-State has offered some pretty bad players in the past. However, I wouldn't include Releford in that same category. Put your bias aside for one minute and tell me that K-State wouldn't love to have the #27 overall player in '08 right about now.
As for the missed layups vs. UCLA, are you really blaming that on Coach Self?
I understand that he put up 28 on this kid. That doesn't mean the kid played him like Releford will be played in a game. Defense isn't played too hard in a lot of games like the one they would have been in. I've read and seen that all you have to do is guard Releford tight and don't give him a cushion at the top of the key and he disappears. He can step up and hit a shot but if someone's in his face then he can't do anything.
It's funny that you're hooking on that RSCI ranking. It's a compilation of a bunch of different rankings right? And since they released it, Releford has plummeted in both Scout and Rivals's rankings right? He won't be so high up once they update. And for you question...there are quite a few players who I would take other than Releford. One of the reasons he got his offer so soon is because he's an instate kid. If Releford played ball somewhere other than the Midwest then I can almost guarantee that he wouldn't have gotten an offer.
Not being prepared for a game and being focused - yeah I can put that on Self. I also put the losses to Bucknell, Bradley, Oral Roberts, Depaul, Wyoming, URI, etc. all on Self. Are you ever going to answer my question about what players have improved under Self or have you just come to the realization that few if any have done so?
Here's a link to the RSCI Rankings and how they are done: http://home.nc.rr.com/rsci/The_Experts/the_experts.html (http://home.nc.rr.com/rsci/The_Experts/the_experts.html)
Next, ku hasn't lost to Wyoming or URI. Where did you come up with that? If you want to make an argument, at least have the correct facts. Depaul came into Manhattan last season and beat K-State in the NIT, and we all know how good of a coach you thought Huggins was.
What players have improved under Self? Is there some way to quantify that? I guess the first player that comes to mind would be Darnell Jackson.
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What players have improved under Self? Is there some way to quantify that?
Yes.
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Next, ku hasn't lost to Wyoming or URI. Where did you come up with that? If you want to make an argument, at least have the correct facts. Depaul came into Manhattan last season and beat K-State in the NIT, and we all know how good of a coach you thought Huggins was.
What players have improved under Self? Is there some way to quantify that? I guess the first player that comes to mind would be Darnell Jackson.
Seriously? You're comparing KSU's squad and it's loss to DePaul to ku's squad and it's loss to DePaul?
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Yes. ku was on the road and was coming off of a big win vs. Florida.
K-State was at home and trying to advance to the next round of the NIT. Huggins left though, so he's no longer a good coach, right?
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Yes. ku was on the road and was coming off of a big win vs. Florida.
I'll let you use this excuse. But you have to admit that this is the only reason K-State lost to ku in football last year. Thanks.
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Yes. ku KSU was on the road and was coming off of a big win vs. Florida Texas.
Sounds reasonable. Now tell me, was 39-20 a fluke, or was your DePaul game a fluke? You only get it one way.
kono
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Yes. ku was on the road and was coming off of a big win vs. Florida Texas.
you just reasoned your way out of a solid win in football.
EDIT: dammit, already beat to it.
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Nice "convo" on Mario Little folks. I'd just like to add that any recruiting that Julian Wright is doing on ku's behalf is illegal and should land ku back in front of the NCAA.
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Releford put up 28 on RSCI #2 overall prospect Jrue Holiday. Holiday is one of the best defenders in the country. No joke.
Obviously K-State has offered some pretty bad players in the past. However, I wouldn't include Releford in that same category. Put your bias aside for one minute and tell me that K-State wouldn't love to have the #27 overall player in '08 right about now.
As for the missed layups vs. UCLA, are you really blaming that on Coach Self?
I understand that he put up 28 on this kid. That doesn't mean the kid played him like Releford will be played in a game. Defense isn't played too hard in a lot of games like the one they would have been in. I've read and seen that all you have to do is guard Releford tight and don't give him a cushion at the top of the key and he disappears. He can step up and hit a shot but if someone's in his face then he can't do anything.
It's funny that you're hooking on that RSCI ranking. It's a compilation of a bunch of different rankings right? And since they released it, Releford has plummeted in both Scout and Rivals's rankings right? He won't be so high up once they update. And for you question...there are quite a few players who I would take other than Releford. One of the reasons he got his offer so soon is because he's an instate kid. If Releford played ball somewhere other than the Midwest then I can almost guarantee that he wouldn't have gotten an offer.
Not being prepared for a game and being focused - yeah I can put that on Self. I also put the losses to Bucknell, Bradley, Oral Roberts, Depaul, Wyoming, URI, etc. all on Self. Are you ever going to answer my question about what players have improved under Self or have you just come to the realization that few if any have done so?
Here's a link to the RSCI Rankings and how they are done: http://home.nc.rr.com/rsci/The_Experts/the_experts.html (http://home.nc.rr.com/rsci/The_Experts/the_experts.html)
Next, ku hasn't lost to Wyoming or URI. Where did you come up with that? If you want to make an argument, at least have the correct facts. Depaul came into Manhattan last season and beat K-State in the NIT, and we all know how good of a coach you thought Huggins was.
What players have improved under Self? Is there some way to quantify that? I guess the first player that comes to mind would be Darnell Jackson.
So no refuting about what I said regarding Releford? Alright.
My bad, it was Nevada and St. Joseph's that ku choked against in the regular season two years ago. Let's throw in the K-State game at AFH that year as well. Obviously, numerous choke jobs.
Yeah, it's pretty easy to tell if a players made improvements. You could go as far as looking at stats to see if the player has improved. Name a player or two that have legitimately improved their draft stock under Self at ku. I can't think of any.
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any recruiting that Julian Wright is doing on ku's behalf is illegal and should land ku back in front of the NCAA.
worth it if it gets them little imo. he would be the star of their class.
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could be the death penalty for ku hoops. every johnson county retard would have to start cheering for us come basketball season. tanners would be a hotbed for ku/K-State basketball cuties (Shannon).
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Yes. ku was on the road and was coming off of a big win vs. Florida.
I'll let you use this excuse. But you have to admit that this is the only reason K-State lost to ku in football last year. Thanks.
Apples and oranges. Basketball and football seasons are completely different. Plus, ku/K-State is a rivalry game and we both play in the same conference.
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Yes. ku was on the road and was coming off of a big win vs. Florida.
I'll let you use this excuse. But you have to admit that this is the only reason K-State lost to ku in football last year. Thanks.
Apples and oranges. Basketball and football seasons are completely different. Plus, ku/K-State is a rivalry game and we both play in the same conference.
:lol: nice backtracking.
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Releford put up 28 on RSCI #2 overall prospect Jrue Holiday. Holiday is one of the best defenders in the country. No joke.
Obviously K-State has offered some pretty bad players in the past. However, I wouldn't include Releford in that same category. Put your bias aside for one minute and tell me that K-State wouldn't love to have the #27 overall player in '08 right about now.
As for the missed layups vs. UCLA, are you really blaming that on Coach Self?
I understand that he put up 28 on this kid. That doesn't mean the kid played him like Releford will be played in a game. Defense isn't played too hard in a lot of games like the one they would have been in. I've read and seen that all you have to do is guard Releford tight and don't give him a cushion at the top of the key and he disappears. He can step up and hit a shot but if someone's in his face then he can't do anything.
It's funny that you're hooking on that RSCI ranking. It's a compilation of a bunch of different rankings right? And since they released it, Releford has plummeted in both Scout and Rivals's rankings right? He won't be so high up once they update. And for you question...there are quite a few players who I would take other than Releford. One of the reasons he got his offer so soon is because he's an instate kid. If Releford played ball somewhere other than the Midwest then I can almost guarantee that he wouldn't have gotten an offer.
Not being prepared for a game and being focused - yeah I can put that on Self. I also put the losses to Bucknell, Bradley, Oral Roberts, Depaul, Wyoming, URI, etc. all on Self. Are you ever going to answer my question about what players have improved under Self or have you just come to the realization that few if any have done so?
Here's a link to the RSCI Rankings and how they are done: http://home.nc.rr.com/rsci/The_Experts/the_experts.html (http://home.nc.rr.com/rsci/The_Experts/the_experts.html)
Next, ku hasn't lost to Wyoming or URI. Where did you come up with that? If you want to make an argument, at least have the correct facts. Depaul came into Manhattan last season and beat K-State in the NIT, and we all know how good of a coach you thought Huggins was.
What players have improved under Self? Is there some way to quantify that? I guess the first player that comes to mind would be Darnell Jackson.
So no refuting about what I said regarding Releford? Alright.
My bad, it was Nevada and St. Joseph's that ku choked against in the regular season two years ago. Let's throw in the K-State game at AFH that year as well. Obviously, numerous choke jobs.
Yeah, it's pretty easy to tell if a players made improvements. You could go as far as looking at stats to see if the player has improved. Name a player or two that have legitimately improved their draft stock under Self at ku. I can't think of any.
So are you implying that ku should go undefeated every season and never lose to anyone with less talent? You've got to love those kind of standards.
I'm not sure what kind of recruiting guru you think you are, but a lot of people really like Travis Releford's game and have seen him thrive with the best players in the country. Scout's Eric Bossi has him in his top 25 and has watched more basketball than anyone on this message board combined. He's never been one to hype a recruit if he wasn't legit.
Julian Wright improved his stock to an NBA lottery pick under Coach Self. If you didn't see Julian's improvement during his time at ku than I'm not sure what it would take to show improvement. Look at his stats from his freshman to sophomore year and tell me that he didn't improve.
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Yes. ku was on the road and was coming off of a big win vs. Florida.
I'll let you use this excuse. But you have to admit that this is the only reason K-State lost to ku in football last year. Thanks.
Apples and oranges. Basketball and football seasons are completely different. Plus, ku/K-State is a rivalry game and we both play in the same conference.
Incredible BS. It's the same exact thing, only the talent disparity b/t KSU and ku in football is far less than b/t ku and Depaul in basketball.
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Mr. Topeka must be out on Lake Shawnee in his yacht enjoying a day off from the moving and shaking of making the big bucks considering how he's pissed all over this board today.
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Yes. ku was on the road and was coming off of a big win vs. Florida.
I'll let you use this excuse. But you have to admit that this is the only reason K-State lost to ku in football last year. Thanks.
Apples and oranges. Basketball and football seasons are completely different.
So it doesn't apply because basketball and football are different. :confused:
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Releford will plummet when RSCI updates his plummeting rankings from Rivals and Scout.
He won't be ranked any lower than Dominique Sutton was.
LOL. Comparing your star to our third best recruit.
LO f'ing L.
Our "star?"
LOL. You act like ku is done signing players for '08.
Who are you in on that's better?
Witherspoon?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
This comment just goes to show how little you and everyone else on this board knows about basketball. Christ, I know you guys have only been following the sport for about a year, but come on.
How about Greg Monroe? You know, the best player in the class. J'mison Morgan?
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Don't forget about the Morris twins.
:love:
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Releford put up 28 on RSCI #2 overall prospect Jrue Holiday. Holiday is one of the best defenders in the country. No joke.
Obviously K-State has offered some pretty bad players in the past. However, I wouldn't include Releford in that same category. Put your bias aside for one minute and tell me that K-State wouldn't love to have the #27 overall player in '08 right about now.
As for the missed layups vs. UCLA, are you really blaming that on Coach Self?
I understand that he put up 28 on this kid. That doesn't mean the kid played him like Releford will be played in a game. Defense isn't played too hard in a lot of games like the one they would have been in. I've read and seen that all you have to do is guard Releford tight and don't give him a cushion at the top of the key and he disappears. He can step up and hit a shot but if someone's in his face then he can't do anything.
It's funny that you're hooking on that RSCI ranking. It's a compilation of a bunch of different rankings right? And since they released it, Releford has plummeted in both Scout and Rivals's rankings right? He won't be so high up once they update. And for you question...there are quite a few players who I would take other than Releford. One of the reasons he got his offer so soon is because he's an instate kid. If Releford played ball somewhere other than the Midwest then I can almost guarantee that he wouldn't have gotten an offer.
Not being prepared for a game and being focused - yeah I can put that on Self. I also put the losses to Bucknell, Bradley, Oral Roberts, Depaul, Wyoming, URI, etc. all on Self. Are you ever going to answer my question about what players have improved under Self or have you just come to the realization that few if any have done so?
My, my! Here's someone who is certainly trying, with great diligence, fervor and passion, to 'prove' how dreadful the current state of the ku basketball program is. Very interesting!
Once again, I'm taken aback at the remarkable level of disrespect towards that ku basketball program that I'm seeing here. It would be hard enough to fathom a level of disrespect toward the ku program from anyone, anywhere, on any level; but so much more so coming from any fan of the Kansas State basketball program. (You know, considering the enormous, gargantuan disparity between the accomplishments of the two programs. When you factor in head-to-head competition since the Paleozoic Era between the two teams, it makes that disrespect come off as being almost surreal, don't you think?)
Now that lack of disrespect appears to carry over to ku's coach, as well. Hmmm.
Let's make a little comparison, shall we?
In his storied career at Kansas State, the great Bill Snyder won zero national championships. To date, Bill Self has won the same amount at ku. ADVANTAGE - Even.
In his storied career at Kansas State, the great Bill Snyder won one (that's 1, as in o-n-e) conference title. To date, Bill Self has won three at ku. ADVANTAGE - Self.
In his storied career at Kansas State, the great Bill Snyder was 1-2 in Big 12 title games. To date, Bill Self is 2-0 in Big 12 title games at ku. ADVANTAGE - Self
In his storied career at Kansas State, the great Bill Snyder was 6-5 in post-season competition. To date, Bill Self is 6-4 in post-season competition at ku. ADVANTAGE - Self.
So whatever deficiencies Bill Self may have, the record shows he's at least proved, by any and every criterion and standard, that he's indisputably a superior coach to the great Bill Snyder. No brag, just fact.
Look again at that record of the great Bill Snyder. Look at how clearly and obviously inferior it is to that of Bill Self's. Now I wonder if anyone else finds it interesting that, despite that, you people thought Bill Snyder did such an incredible job, you were so eternally grateful to him, that you accorded him the singular honor of naming your football stadium after the guy and his family. Well, noting the disparity between Self's and Snyder's records, if you ever had a basketball coach who did for your program just what Self has done at ku, it beggars the imagination as to what honors you clowns would then bestow upon him. It's simply hilarious to even contemplate. Why, you'd re-name every building on your whole freakin' campus after him!
So either the great Bill Snyder ain't so great after all, or we just might have to reassess that which has been done by Bill Self. Won't we?
Laughably idiotic, moronic fans who strive mightily to concoct transparently insincere revisionist history of the accomplishments of their in-state rival's more successful programs? ADVANTAGE - Kansas State
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Seriously? You just typed all that? My how the mighty have fallen.
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you can't compare a little league sport with a major league one.
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Blah, blah, blah.
Our interest in what you type? I-n-f-i-n-i-t-e-s-i-m-a-l-l-y small.
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ui fans rejoice!
http://illinois.scout.com/a.z?s=169&p=2&c=678089&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fillinois.scout.com%2f2%2f678089.html
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LOL @ no one on here having enough basketball knowledge to even try to refute what buzz said.
You guys are clowns. A joke. People laugh at you and make fun of you for acting like this. Your program is one of the worst in college basketball. You get the crap kicked out of you every year by ku. Your coach is Frank "L-O-frickin-L" Martin. You consistently embarrass the Big XXII and the state of Kansas.
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LOL @ no one on here having enough basketball knowledge to even try to refute what buzz said.
refute what, that bill snyder was overrated? it seems like a rational opinion to me. wrong board for it, but no big deal.
any thoughts on little?
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LOL @ no one on here having enough basketball knowledge to even try to refute what buzz said.
You guys are clowns. A joke. People laugh at you and make fun of you for acting like this. Your program is one of the worst in college basketball. You get the crap kicked out of you every year by ku. Your coach is Frank "L-O-frickin-L" Martin. You consistently embarrass the Big XXII and the state of Kansas.
What's the Big 22, and how do we embarass the state of Kansas? You are the ones who consistantly choke in the spotlight of the NCAA tournament, and have the 800 lb piece of sh*t as a coach. I'd say those two things alone dwarf anything KSU has ever done to embarass this state.
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LOL @ no one on here having enough basketball knowledge to even try to refute what buzz said.
You guys are clowns. A joke. People laugh at you and make fun of you for acting like this. Your program is one of the worst in college basketball. You get the crap kicked out of you every year by ku. Your coach is Frank "L-O-frickin-L" Martin. You consistently embarrass the Big XXII and the state of Kansas.
I think it has more to do with the absolutely ridiculous f'ing idea that Bill Self is half the coach that Bill Snyder was. To even compare the two shows how f'ing retarded a person is and basically has zero clue about what Bill Snyder had to overcome to even establish a program let alone the huge difference between the eliteness of Big 12 football in comparison to the littleness of Big 12 basketball.
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LOL @ no one on here having enough basketball knowledge to even try to refute what buzz said.
I'll refute it.
Bill Snyder came in and took one of the worst programs in the history of college football and made them a national power for over a decade.
Bill Self came in and took over one of the more elite jobs in the history of college basketball and a final four team, and has consistantly underachieved outside of the conference including 2 terrible first round losses.
I don't understand how you can say Bill Snyder is overrated. No one in the world ever expected him to do what he did.
ku fans expect to go to the Final 4 every year, and rightfully so, but B. Self has been to 0, and the possibilities over the next few years are looking slimmer than they have for a long time for ku.
Bill Self = Underachieving for now.
Bill Snyder = Overachieved beyond comprehension.
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I'm pretty sure Snyder coached football and that we are currently on the basketball boards.
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Bill Snyder choked in his only chance to play for a National Championship.
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I'm pretty sure Snyder coached football and that we are currently on the basketball boards.
good point, i'll put something up on the football board.
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Bill Snyder choked in his only chance to play for a National Championship.
Bill Self hasn't been a good enough coach to get a chance to choke a national championship away.
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http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=15843.0
here you go football people.
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LOL @ no one on here having enough basketball knowledge to even try to refute what buzz said.
You guys are clowns. A joke. People laugh at you and make fun of you for acting like this. Your program is one of the worst in college basketball. You get the crap kicked out of you every year by ku. Your coach is Frank "L-O-frickin-L" Martin. You consistently embarrass the Big XXII and the state of Kansas.
Have you considered therapy? You have a lot of hate inside of you young man. I'm sincerely worried about you.
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Releford put up 28 on RSCI #2 overall prospect Jrue Holiday. Holiday is one of the best defenders in the country. No joke.
Obviously K-State has offered some pretty bad players in the past. However, I wouldn't include Releford in that same category. Put your bias aside for one minute and tell me that K-State wouldn't love to have the #27 overall player in '08 right about now.
As for the missed layups vs. UCLA, are you really blaming that on Coach Self?
I understand that he put up 28 on this kid. That doesn't mean the kid played him like Releford will be played in a game. Defense isn't played too hard in a lot of games like the one they would have been in. I've read and seen that all you have to do is guard Releford tight and don't give him a cushion at the top of the key and he disappears. He can step up and hit a shot but if someone's in his face then he can't do anything.
It's funny that you're hooking on that RSCI ranking. It's a compilation of a bunch of different rankings right? And since they released it, Releford has plummeted in both Scout and Rivals's rankings right? He won't be so high up once they update. And for you question...there are quite a few players who I would take other than Releford. One of the reasons he got his offer so soon is because he's an instate kid. If Releford played ball somewhere other than the Midwest then I can almost guarantee that he wouldn't have gotten an offer.
Not being prepared for a game and being focused - yeah I can put that on Self. I also put the losses to Bucknell, Bradley, Oral Roberts, Depaul, Wyoming, URI, etc. all on Self. Are you ever going to answer my question about what players have improved under Self or have you just come to the realization that few if any have done so?
My, my! Here's someone who is certainly trying, with great diligence, fervor and passion, to 'prove' how dreadful the current state of the ku basketball program is. Very interesting!
Once again, I'm taken aback at the remarkable level of disrespect towards that ku basketball program that I'm seeing here. It would be hard enough to fathom a level of disrespect toward the ku program from anyone, anywhere, on any level; but so much more so coming from any fan of the Kansas State basketball program. (You know, considering the enormous, gargantuan disparity between the accomplishments of the two programs. When you factor in head-to-head competition since the Paleozoic Era between the two teams, it makes that disrespect come off as being almost surreal, don't you think?)
Now that lack of disrespect appears to carry over to ku's coach, as well. Hmmm.
Let's make a little comparison, shall we?
In his storied career at Kansas State, the great Bill Snyder won zero national championships. To date, Bill Self has won the same amount at ku. ADVANTAGE - Even.
In his storied career at Kansas State, the great Bill Snyder won one (that's 1, as in o-n-e) conference title. To date, Bill Self has won three at ku. ADVANTAGE - Self.
In his storied career at Kansas State, the great Bill Snyder was 1-2 in Big 12 title games. To date, Bill Self is 2-0 in Big 12 title games at ku. ADVANTAGE - Self
In his storied career at Kansas State, the great Bill Snyder was 6-5 in post-season competition. To date, Bill Self is 6-4 in post-season competition at ku. ADVANTAGE - Self.
So whatever deficiencies Bill Self may have, the record shows he's at least proved, by any and every criterion and standard, that he's indisputably a superior coach to the great Bill Snyder. No brag, just fact.
Look again at that record of the great Bill Snyder. Look at how clearly and obviously inferior it is to that of Bill Self's. Now I wonder if anyone else finds it interesting that, despite that, you people thought Bill Snyder did such an incredible job, you were so eternally grateful to him, that you accorded him the singular honor of naming your football stadium after the guy and his family. Well, noting the disparity between Self's and Snyder's records, if you ever had a basketball coach who did for your program just what Self has done at ku, it beggars the imagination as to what honors you clowns would then bestow upon him. It's simply hilarious to even contemplate. Why, you'd re-name every building on your whole freakin' campus after him!
So either the great Bill Snyder ain't so great after all, or we just might have to reassess that which has been done by Bill Self. Won't we?
Laughably idiotic, moronic fans who strive mightily to concoct transparently insincere revisionist history of the accomplishments of their in-state rival's more successful programs? ADVANTAGE - Kansas State
Gee, how to counter such an intelligent argument?
How 'bout how many times we have heard that Bill Snyder made the most amazing turnaround in the history of college foothball? How many times have we heard he has done the best job of coaching in the last 50 years? How many times have we heard these types of things about Bill Self?...well, none. I will admit that Bill Self is a good coach, but let's not pretend he has done anything amazing.
Your argument about Self is so typical of the ku stereotype. So many of them were born on 3rd base and go through life telling everybody they hit a triple.
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Your argument about Self is so typical of the ku stereotype. So many of them were born on 3rd base and go through life telling everybody they hit a triple.
The ones who grace us with their presence here were actually born on 2nd, but they'll still tell you they hit a triple.
kono
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Bill Snyder choked in his only chance to play for a National Championship.
Bill Self hasn't been a good enough coach to get a chance to choke a national championship away.
Actually his first year choking to GTech in the FF should count. Or losing to UCLA last year.
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Eboss says he's still visiting KSU and UI.
:flush:
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Poor man BMW:
GET TO CLASS YOU PHUCKING FAGGOT!! STOP WASTING MOMMY'S HARD EARNED MONEY ON MESSAGE BOARDS!!!
Jesus Christ, I have never seen such a dumbass like you before! Do you just sit around all day and post on this board??
GET A LIFE!!!
Joco wannabe FAG!!!!
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Eboss says he's still visiting KSU and UI.
:flush:
lol.
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Bill Snyder choked in his only chance to play for a National Championship.
Bill Self hasn't been a good enough coach to get a chance to choke a national championship away.
Actually his first year choking to GTech in the FF should count. Or losing to UCLA last year.
Bill Self has never been to the FF.
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Meatbag is pissed :curse: :curse:
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Meatbag is pissed :curse: :curse:
jmo, but he has a right to be.
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Meatbag you are calling out a guy and saying he has no life yet you are the one getting offended over something on a petty message board. I wonder who really needs to get a life.
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Meatbag you are calling out a guy and saying he has no life yet you are the one getting offended over something on a petty message board. I wonder who really needs to get a life.
lol and you spend a lot of time on another team's message board.
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well when you are bored at work and have no hw to do, then thats what i do, surf the web
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LOL @ no one on here having enough basketball knowledge to even try to refute what buzz said.
You guys are clowns. A joke. People laugh at you and make fun of you for acting like this. Your program is one of the worst in college basketball. You get the crap kicked out of you every year by ku. Your coach is Frank "L-O-frickin-L" Martin. You consistently embarrass the Big XXII and the state of Kansas.
I think it has more to do with the absolutely ridiculous f'ing idea that Bill Self is half the coach that Bill Snyder was. To even compare the two shows how f'ing retarded a person is and basically has zero clue about what Bill Snyder had to overcome to even establish a program let alone the huge difference between the eliteness of Big 12 football in comparison to the littleness of Big 12 basketball.
TRANSLATION -As long as ku dominates the Big 12 in basketball and our program resides in the projects and tenements of the lower half of the conference, then we'll find transparently asinine and pathetic ways to denigrate that and assuage our own ineptitude.
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Rivals is reporting that Mario Little will be visiting K-State this weekend. Big surprise. My guess is he will have a great time in Manhattan, also.
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TRANSLATION -As long as ku dominates the Big 12 in basketball and our program resides in the projects and tenements of the lower half of the conference, then we'll find transparently asinine and pathetic ways to denigrate that and assuage our own ineptitude.
TRANSLATION - If I keep using big words it will help me to feel less insecure about my tiny penis.
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LOL @ no one on here having enough basketball knowledge to even try to refute what buzz said.
I'll refute it.
Bill Snyder came in and took one of the worst programs in the history of college football and made them a national power for over a decade.
Bill Self came in and took over one of the more elite jobs in the history of college basketball and a final four team, and has consistantly underachieved outside of the conference including 2 terrible first round losses.
I don't understand how you can say Bill Snyder is overrated. No one in the world ever expected him to do what he did.
ku fans expect to go to the Final 4 every year, and rightfully so, but B. Self has been to 0, and the possibilities over the next few years are looking slimmer than they have for a long time for ku.
Bill Self = Underachieving for now.
Bill Snyder = Overachieved beyond comprehension.
Oops! Bill Snyder was 1-3 in Big 12 title games, was he not? My bad. (While Bill Self is 2-0 -- that part was correct.)
Again, check out the facts. 'Overachieve'. 'Underachieve'. Nope, not going to work here. Nice try, anyway, though.
FACT - Bill Self has already ACHIEVED more in four years at ku than Bill Snyder did in however many years he was at Kansas State. More conference titles. Fact. Better post-season record. Fact. Irrefutable. Undeniable. The point is not to try to belittle Bill Snyder's accomplishments (I'm not into revisionist history - I leave that to the professionals; you guys.) The point is that
a.) however bad you idiotic clowns want to try to make Bill Self out to be (for your own pathetic, but within this context, understandable reasons) the record shows he's accomplished more within the conference and has a better record in the post-season. No brag, just fact. Sorry. And
b.) No one is fooled by the consistently desperate creativity you idiotic clowns apply to coming up with your avalanche of transparently asinine revisionist history of the accomplishments and stature of the ku basketball program (again, for your own pathetic, but within this context, perfectly obvious and understandable reasons.) And
c.) If any coach came to Kansas State and produced what Bill Self has done in just his three years at ku, you clowns would carve his likeness onto the side of the Flint Hills and Kevin Kietzman and Tim Fitzgerald would never have to resort to using viagra again.
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Rivals is reporting that Mario Little will be visiting K-State this weekend. Big surprise. My guess is he will have a great time in Manhattan, also.
Lol. No surprise, but Lol nonetheless.
We all know the level of eliteness Self brings to the table. Weird that he can't close the deal and just keeps going head to head with Frank Martin, a guy we all know can’t coach for so many players, JUCO ones at that.
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Oops! Bill Snyder was 1-3 in Big 12 title games, was he not? My bad. (While Bill Self is 2-0 -- that part was correct.)
Again, check out the facts. 'Overachieve'. 'Underachieve'. Nope, not going to work here. Nice try, anyway, though.
FACT - Bill Self has already ACHIEVED more in four years at ku than Bill Snyder did in however many years he was at Kansas State. More conference titles. Fact. Better post-season record. Fact. Irrefutable. Undeniable. The point is not to try to belittle Bill Snyder's accomplishments (I'm not into revisionist history - I leave that to the professionals; you guys.) The point is that
a.) however bad you idiotic clowns want to try to make Bill Self out to be (for your own pathetic, but within this context, understandable reasons) the record shows he's accomplished more within the conference and has a better record in the post-season. No brag, just fact. Sorry. And
b.) No one is fooled by the consistently desperate creativity you idiotic clowns apply to coming up with your avalanche of transparently asinine revisionist history of the accomplishments and stature of the ku basketball program (again, for your own pathetic, but within this context, perfectly obvious and understandable reasons.) And
c.) If any coach came to Kansas State and produced what Bill Self has done in just his three years at ku, you clowns would carve his likeness onto the side of the Flint Hills and Kevin Kietzman and Tim Fitzgerald would never have to resort to using viagra again.
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As I wrote in a previous post, while I think Bill Self is a good coach and do not mean in any way to denigrate him or his accomplishments. That being said, by coming to ku he was essentially born on 3rd base and you are trying to tell us he hit a triple.
Many coaches and journalists have said that Snyder may have done the best job of college football coaching ever. Self has never received that type of praise.
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mario little blurb:
http://www.chipola.edu/extrac/athl/basketball/2007/Little4.htm
mention of witherspoon in article about ku desperately chasing memphis rejects:
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2007/sep/10/morris-twins-change-mind-memphis-commitment-again/
another witherspoon mention. with a lol at the list of his schools.
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2007/sep/11/twins_considering_kansas/?mens_basketball
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10 pts a game last year?
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a kc prospect getting high major attention. anyone know if ksu is involved?
http://iowa.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=72101
a few more links:
http://hskansas.scout.com/a.z?s=390&p=2&c=595437
http://www.chicagosports.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?sid=1042&script=content.asp&cid=710471&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=
http://www.chicagosports.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?sid=1042&script=content.asp&cid=707879&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=
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a kc prospect getting high major attention. anyone know if ksu is involved?
http://iowa.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=72101
a few more links:
http://hskansas.scout.com/a.z?s=390&p=2&c=595437
http://www.chicagosports.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?sid=1042&script=content.asp&cid=710471&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=
http://www.chicagosports.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?sid=1042&script=content.asp&cid=707879&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=
Great puns.
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LOL!! Mario didn't like his visit to ku last weekend, therefore coming to MHK to end his recruitment this weekend.
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Meatbag is pissed :curse: :curse:
jmo, but he has a right to be.
Yep, I'd be pissed too if I had to root for KSU.
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LOL!! Mario didn't like his visit to ku last weekend, therefore coming to MHK to end his recruitment this weekend.
You're retarded.
“The weekend was great. I really had fun with the team. The players and coaches were great. Everything about my trip to Kansas was awesome,” said Little, 6-5, 210-pound sophomore from Chipola Junior College. “This visit will be tough to beat. I loved everything about Kansas.”
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/sep/10/little_has_great_visit/?sports
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http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/sep/10/little_has_great_visit/?sports
That's all that I saw.
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LOL!! Mario didn't like his visit to ku last weekend, therefore coming to MHK to end his recruitment this weekend.
You're retarded.
“The weekend was great. I really had fun with the team. The players and coaches were great. Everything about my trip to Kansas was awesome,” said Little, 6-5, 210-pound sophomore from Chipola Junior College. “This visit will be tough to beat. I loved everything about Kansas.”
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/sep/10/little_has_great_visit/?sports
He's as good as ours.
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This is great. We'll see who wins out for Little when all is said and done. I think K-State has just as good of a chance as anyone.
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I think K-State has just as good of a chance as anyone.
nice words, but not likely. ku pretty much gets everyone they want. and ui is home.
ksu is just getting a courtesy visit to make up for the hannah thing.
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I think K-State has just as good of a chance as anyone.
nice words, but not likely. ku pretty much gets everyone they want. and ui is home.
ksu is just getting a courtesy visit to make up for the hannah thing.
Plus, he won't have as much competition for PT at ku.
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Regardless, I just hope Mario Little doesn't end up at Illinois. Nothing's better than watching that program sink like the Titanic under Bruce Weber.
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I don't think we get Little, but if somehow we did.....LOL. I'd love to see that get spinned.
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I don't see any way we get Little either, also, I don't understand why everyone is so high on him.
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Many coaches and journalists have said that Snyder may have done the best job of college football coaching ever. Self has never received that type of praise.
Snyder turned around a team that only had 1 bowl appearance in its history. KSU was annually the worst team in the conference prior to Bill Snyder and co. arriving in Manhattan. ku was the dominate team in the rivalry prior to Bill Snyder.
Bill Self took a job at one of the nations elite basketball programs.
As a Jhawk fan, I have to tip my hat to Snyder for the job he did in Manhattan.
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... How do you explain what he did at Tulsa with average talent? This should be good.
lol
How do you explain what he did against Bucknell, Bradley, ORU, and DePaul with superior talent? This should be good.
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We chanted his name
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TRANSLATION -As long as ku dominates the Big 12 in basketball and our program resides in the projects and tenements of the lower half of the conference, then we'll find transparently asinine and pathetic ways to denigrate that and assuage our own ineptitude.
LOL.
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Self has barely maintained the status quo at ku. He doesn't appear able to advance the program. KSU basketball has sucked for the last 20yrs. plus. It didn't use to be that way. KSUs last great coach was Jack Hartman. Kruger was good not great. Kruger had problems off the court. KSUs Basketball program is definitly better right now than it has been for the last 20 plus years.It's understandable the ku chicken hawks feel compelled to come on to a wildcat board and post crap.Will KSU dominate ku probably not. Is kus domination of basketball over? Perhaps. Time will reveal all things. Is KSUs dominance in football over? Perhaps.
This stuff of comparing Bill Snyder to anyone else is just plain stupid. No body has accomplished what Snyder did in any sport so that is just ignorant .
ku this chicken hawks for you! :twobirds: :twobirds:
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Self has barely maintained the status quo at ku. He doesn't appear able to advance the program. KSU basketball has sucked for the last 20yrs. plus. It didn't use to be that way. KSUs last great coach was Jack Hartman. Kruger was good not great. Kruger had problems off the court. KSUs Basketball program is definitly better right now than it has been for the last 20 plus years.It's understandable the ku chicken hawks feel compelled to come on to a wildcat board and post crap.Will KSU dominate ku probably not. Is kus domination of basketball over? Perhaps. Time will reveal all things. Is KSUs dominance in football over? Perhaps.
This stuff of comparing Bill Snyder to anyone else is just plain stupid. No body has accomplished what Snyder did in any sport so that is just ignorant .
ku this chicken hawks for you! :twobirds: :twobirds:
Anyway... So this Mario guy is pretty talented.
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I'm not going to say that he's talented until we sign him. That way if we don't then he's just some retard overrated JUCO kid.
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Bump for GP update
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Bump for GP update
+ or - or just homerish?
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Here owes us.
:mad:
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Bump for GP update
pm please.
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He11 I don't know anything...I was bumping so somebody would tell me.
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gp update = :woohoo:
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Thanx!
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Thanx!
check pm.
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Thanx!
check pm.
i've always loved you. more than yosh has.
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Thanx!
check pm.
double thanks
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Good thing we chanted his name!!!
:ksu:
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I want a pm please if anyone has some good info.
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Just check phog to see if a melt down is underway.
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They wouldn't melt down over a JUCO kid, just tell everyone how overrated he is.
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Well the update didn't say anything special. I'd be surprised if Little visited Illinois at this point, though.
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I wouldn't he already visited ku after getting an offer from Kstate.
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Well the update didn't say anything special. I'd be surprised if Little visited Illinois at this point, though.
Agree, this kid is bound to land in the state of Kansas. But where????
My money is on.......yea, I got no clue.
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i would put money on it that Little is going to ku
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Heiar in Mario's ear = KSU :ksu:
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Self is on his way to Florida right now to visit with Little.
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Self is on his way to Florida right now to visit with Little.
:blank:
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It sounds like Little's coach still expect him to visit Illinois. I doubt he'll make a decision any time within the next couple of weeks.
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... How do you explain what he did at Tulsa with average talent? This should be good.
lol
How do you explain what he did against Bucknell, Bradley, ORU, and DePaul with superior talent? This should be good.
Your a frackfing idiot. Have you never watched college basketball? Upsets happen, dumbcrap. When's the last time someone went undefeated in a season? Every season, teams with far more talent lost to teams with far less. Bill Self isn't the only coach losing to teams with far inferior talent levels.
You guys really don't know what you're talking about.
EDIT: These censors are really gay.
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Self is on his way to Florida right now to visit with Little.
lol at how bad ku's recruiting is going.
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Stop it. You don't know what you're talking about. Every year coaches make late visits to recruits they wouldn't have given the time of day to in past years.
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lol at how bad ku's recruiting is going.
lol @ ksu fans talking about basketball recruiting.
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Self is on his way to Florida right now to visit with Little.
in other news, Little is on his way to manhattan right now to keep away from self.
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Just wanted to stop by and drop some lol's at Little going from "cancelling his KSU visit" to KSU and ku being equal in about a week.
Little said last weekend’s visit to KSU was enjoyable, just like his time spent at ku.
“Both were real good visits. I liked the players at both schools,” he said. “I can’t really say,” he added, asked which Sunflower State school was his favorite.
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2007/sep/19/self_pays_visit_juco_recruit_mario_little/?mens_basketball
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What else is he going to say?
His commments about K-State certainly haven't been as glowing as his comments after his ku visit.
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What else is he going to say?
His commments about K-State certainly haven't been as glowing as his comments after his ku visit.
He could say, "I really enjoyed my trip to K-State and I like those guys a lot, but ku is definitely the favorite at this point."
...but he didn't, and that was to a Lawrence newspaper.
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I don't know... that would be pretty harsh to practically eliminate a school right after visiting with them the previous week.
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... How do you explain what he did at Tulsa with average talent? This should be good.
lol
How do you explain what he did against Bucknell, Bradley, ORU, and DePaul with superior talent? This should be good.
Your a frackfing idiot. Have you never watched college basketball? Upsets happen, dumbcrap. When's the last time someone went undefeated in a season? Every season, teams with far more talent lost to teams with far less. Bill Self isn't the only coach losing to teams with far inferior talent levels.
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lol
You seem pretty bent out of shape by my post. Could it be that Self chokes (has choked) more often against inferior teams- especially at the most inopportune times (NCAA tourney)? Also, please be sure to include more name calling in your reply. That will surely to galvanize your point.
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What else is he going to say?
His commments about K-State certainly haven't been as glowing as his comments after his ku visit.
LOL
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ku basketball fans . . . now hanging on every word out of the mouth of a Juco recruit, how times have changed.
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Guess who trimmed his list to four?
(http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/WILLIEWARREN9_13200A.JPG)
:nahnah:
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How is that harsh at all? Some people were claiming he eliminated us prior to visiting. At least this way he would have given us the courtesy of a visit. Besides, he could of even said "ku has a slight lead" the reporter was fishing for it, and Mario didn't commit to a favorite.
Perhaps he's just sensitive to others feeling...or maybe he was blown away by his first high major D1 visit to ku, but then after his second visit to K-State, he realized that they roll out the red carpet and kiss your ass at all these things.
Obviously from a basketball history and proven current team standpoint, ku would be his pick. However, that isn't a new development and he decided to visit K-State anyway. There is some other criteria that KSU must be meeting that is keeping them in the hunt.
It feels weird to be discussing a Wooly like recruit with a ku fan...
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It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out. FranK Martin and K-State were one of the first schools to contact Mario Little and offer him a scholarship. ku came into the picture a bit late, but the tradition as well as the Chicago connection has put us in a good position to overcome K-State's first mover advantage.
Reading between the lines, it sounds like Little was blown away by his visit to ku, while his relationship with K-State's coaching staff is keeping them in the hunt.
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Frank Martin and his staff are excellent talent evaluators, and Bill Self is getting his ass kicked on the recruiting trail.
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So you admit that K-State is still very much in the hunt?
:ksu: :ksu:
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Frank Martin and his staff are excellent talent evaluators...
QFT
Everyone we recruit has their stock skyrocket.
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Frank Martin and his staff are excellent talent evaluators, and Bill Self is getting his ass kicked on the recruiting trail.
Translation: Rusty is pissed that ku has been able to make up a lot of ground on K-State's top targets in only a short time period.
Meanwhile, Bill Self is putting ku in a position to land another solid recruiting class to a team that is preseason top 5.
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So you admit that Self is now following the KSU staff around.
That's a good start.
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Frank Martin and his staff are excellent talent evaluators, and Bill Self is getting his ass kicked on the recruiting trail.
Translation: Rusty is pissed that ku has been able to make up a lot of ground on K-State's top targets in only a short time period.
Meanwhile, Bill Self is putting ku in a position to land another solid recruiting class to a team that is preseason top 5.
When did KSU start recruiting him, and when did ku start recruiting him? KSU was there first, because they're better at evaluating talent, but ku didn't come in much later.
LOL
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I didn't realize that K-State's coaching staff had a monopoly on identifying talent. I thought all coaching staffs did that. Guess I was wrong.
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I didn't realize that K-State's coaching staff had a monopoly on identifying talent. I thought all coaching staffs did that. Guess I was wrong.
No monopoly. Just better.
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One thing is for sure.
tHuggins had no clue when it came to identifying talent. (06 class. :yuck: )
(thank god Martin was the brains behind the 07' class)
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I didn't realize that K-State's coaching staff had a monopoly on identifying talent. I thought all coaching staffs did that. Guess I was wrong.
No monopoly. Just better.
Get back to me when they find a Deron Williams.
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I didn't realize that K-State's coaching staff had a monopoly on identifying talent. I thought all coaching staffs did that. Guess I was wrong.
No monopoly. Just better.
Get back to me when they find a Deron Williams.
wow. slow down there. I'd say Mr. Weber was responsible for Deron' becoming a beast.
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I didn't realize that K-State's coaching staff had a monopoly on identifying talent. I thought all coaching staffs did that. Guess I was wrong.
No monopoly. Just better.
Get back to me when they find a Deron Williams.
wow. slow down there. I'd say Mr. Weber was responsible for Deron' becoming a beast.
Plus, those top 50 players are true diamonds in the rough.
Jose Juan Berea for Frank @ Northeastern >>>>>>> Deron Williams for Desperate Bill at Illinois when it comes to talent evals.
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Self is good at evaluating the best talent evaluators and then going after their recruits.
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asbury must be pissed as hell at having arrived at ksu 15 years too early.
ku recruiting ksu targets = lol.
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Laughing at your own school?
Have at it. Regardless, K-State has elevated its recruiting since Huggins took over. There's no shame in recruiting Wesley Witherspoon and Mario Little. Those are good players with high-major talent. It's just that K-State fans hadn't been able to say they had a chance with these type of recruits until recently.
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K-State has elevated its recruiting since Huggins took over.
not so much, at least since huggins left. it is far more that ku is recruiting 2nd tier players now. lol at that.
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I like to wear my mom's dress on and nance around the house. Also, I like to have my hair pulled while I am engaged in manlove w/ my hairy gardner, Juarez.
Ride 'em Cowboy! Go GayState!
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Didn't JohnBrown show up about the same time that huge fatass from ku got run off?
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I like to wear my mom's dress on and nance around the house. Also, I like to have my hair pulled while I am engaged in manlove w/ my hairy gardner, Juarez.
Ride 'em Cowboy! Go GayState!
BMW....care to comment?
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sys, do you consider Greg Monroe, Willie Warren, and J'Mison Morgan "2nd-tier" players?
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Laughing at your own school?
Have at it. Regardless, K-State has elevated its recruiting since Huggins took over. There's no shame in recruiting Wesley Witherspoon and Mario Little. Those are good players with high-major talent. It's just that K-State fans hadn't been able to say they had a chance with these type of recruits until recently.
LOL it's Cartier Martin and Tim Ellis :rolleyes:
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Ballplayers says Little to KSU 60%, ku 40%.
Ballplayers is never wrong.
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Ballplayers says Little to KSU 60%, ku 40%.
Ballplayers is never wrong.
What is ballplayers URL?
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Ballplayers says Little to KSU 60%, ku 40%.
Ballplayers is never wrong.
What is ballplayers URL?
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&tid=101148797&mid=101148797&sid=889&style=2
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It would be nice if NCAA coaches had unlimited time to work with players so they could take someone who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and turn them into pure shooters.
HS coaches as well in most states, and they're further hampered by AAU coaches who may not be teaching the same thing or using the same methods during the off season.
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It would be nice if NCAA coaches had unlimited time to work with players so they could take someone who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and turn them into pure shooters.
HS coaches as well in most states, and they're further hampered by AAU coaches who may not be teaching the same thing or using the same methods during the off season.
Wrong thread?
HS coaches suck, BTW. Using different methods in the offseason is probably a good thing for most players.
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Wrong thread?
:curse: :banghead: :blindfold:
HS coaches suck, BTW. Using different methods in the offseason is probably a good thing for most players.
QFT. Some of 'em are even telling kids that SF=SG=PG.
Unreal.
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It would be nice if NCAA coaches had unlimited time to work with players so they could take someone who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and turn them into pure shooters.
HS coaches as well in most states, and they're further hampered by AAU coaches who may not be teaching the same thing or using the same methods during the off season.
Wrong thread?
HS coaches suck, BTW. Using different methods in the offseason is probably a good thing for most players.
why do you hate Frank Martin so much? :'( :curse: :confused:
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sys, do you consider Greg Monroe, Willie Warren, and J'Mison Morgan "2nd-tier" players?
ku has no shot at greg monroe. warren is a crapshoot. morgan is ku's only real remaining shot at a (semi) elite recruit.
lol at all your eggs in one basket (see ksu and witherspoon for a relevant example of how much that sucks).
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monroe just eliminated ku, fwiw.
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monroe just eliminated ku, fwiw.
sys, do you consider Greg Monroe, Willie Warren, and J'Mison Morgan "2nd-tier" players?
LOFL
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this thread sux too. wtf is going on here lately.
other than the news that monroe said no to ku this is a major crapfest.
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this thread sux too. wtf is going on here lately.
other than the news that monroe said no to ku this is a major crapfest.
No thread titled "Mario Little" should ever reach 5 pages....unless it got off topic and ended up somewhere good.
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this thread sux too. wtf is going on here lately.
other than the news that monroe said no to ku this is a major crapfest.
Why didn't you participate in my tan line thread ass munch?
I also posted a pic of TomLight's kids that somehow got removed.
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this thread sux too. wtf is going on here lately.
other than the news that monroe said no to ku this is a major crapfest.
I also posted a pic of TomLight's kids that somehow got removed.
what? post it agin.
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OMG! LOLLERS!
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this thread sux too. wtf is going on here lately.
other than the news that monroe said no to ku this is a major crapfest.
I also posted a pic of TomLight's kids that somehow got removed.
what? post it agin.
OK I missed it that time. Post it again (3rd time)!
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this thread sux too. wtf is going on here lately.
other than the news that monroe said no to ku this is a major crapfest.
Why didn't you participate in my tan line thread ass munch?
I also posted a pic of TomLight's kids that somehow got removed.
i've been too busy to add content the past couple days. i've got a little project simmering on the side however and hope to debut it for midnight madness. pm removed content pls. :shy:
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pm removed content pls. :shy:
ditto
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pm removed content pls. :shy:
ditto
x 3. thx
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I'll wait and see if anyone else wants to put in an order.
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LOFL
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LOFL
qft. thought the little one does have nice legs.
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what do I have to do to get a pm?
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LOFL
qft. thought the little one does have nice legs.
:eek: :lol:
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So I don't have to send out 50 PM's:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=172#s=172&f=2488&t=1063764
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this thread sux too. wtf is going on here lately.
other than the news that monroe said no to ku this is a major crapfest.
Why didn't you participate in my tan line thread ass munch?
I also posted a pic of TomLight's kids that somehow got removed.
i've been too busy to add content the past couple days. i've got a little project simmering on the side however and hope to debut it for midnight madness.
Will you debut your project in my midnight madness thread?!?! :hope:
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Link to Monroe eliminating ku?
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Link to Monroe eliminating ku?
Monroe is still considering ku. The in-house visit went very well.
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Link to Monroe eliminating ku?
Monroe is still considering ku. The in-house visit went very well.
LOL
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For a video comparison of what ku recruiting is looking like see stunner.
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Link to Monroe eliminating ku?
Monroe is still considering ku. The in-house visit went very well.
LOL
LOL, good luck finding enough white guys to fill the rest of your recruiting needs once again.
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Link to Monroe eliminating ku?
Monroe is still considering ku. The in-house visit went very well.
:lol:
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Link to Monroe eliminating ku?
Monroe is still considering ku. The in-house visit went very well.
the great thing about this post is that ku's in home was on the 22nd. trips beats jb as a prognasticator.
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http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=169#s=169&f=2616&t=1131029
8 pages of mario little talk.
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http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=169#s=169&f=2616&t=1131029
8 pages of mario little talk.
back when we sucked at football, i may have spent the time to grcoat through that thread.
now? lol.
summary dude?
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summary dude?
ui fans hate and fear bill self.
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I'm sure they're thrilled with Bruce Weber and the recruiting classes he has brought to Illinois.
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So, Frank and Dalonte had an in home yesterday. Bruce Webber is slated for tomorrow.
I guess that means Self's plane breaks down again and won't be making the trip.
It's K-State or Illinois. Ultimately, I think he goes to play in his backyard at IU.
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BUT WE CHANTED HIS NAME
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BUT WE CHANTED HIS NAME
I think that's the sole reason we're in the running. He was thrilled.
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If hadn't taken the trip to Illinois, and made the announcement on Monday as anticipated he would have been a Cat. Don't see it happening now that this is drawing out and he's waiting for the in-home with the Illini coaching staff.
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whether little goes to ksu or ui would be almost irrelevant. the fun part would be lol at ku not getting him (though they likely will).